User talk:Coren/Archives/2010/August

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In regards to Andre Moses de Rothschild there are other reference links that I have included, please review them before deleting my article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Britishpressman (talk • contribs) 15:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The bot just tags articles when it thinks there might be a copyright violation. A real person (in this case User:Graeme Bartlett) reviewed the bot's tagging as well as the concerns raised by other users before deleting. Also, please be aware that it is not "your" article, as nobody owns a Wikipedia article. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

BAP 100 article

I've just created a basic article about the anti-runway cluster bomb BAP 100, based on a single source (an online short article at Jane's website), because I consider that the weapon was relevant enough to have its own entry in Wikipedia. Due to lack of time I only did some basic changes to the text and could not locate additional sources, so the current version looks similar to the original source. Your bot was quite quick in detecting that!
As I explain in the article's talk page, I intend to furhter research and expand this article in the next few days. Please do NOT delete this article, and let me know any concerns you may have about this.
Thanks and regards, DPdH (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

RBI Thiruvananthapuram

My article stub on "RBI Thiruvananthapuram" does not contain any copyright material. The information given are mere facts which can be cross-checked with any source. Thank you for your concern.

Sahasrara (talk) 08:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Genna Walsh

Regarding the WordTheatre article, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Genna Walsh (talk • contribs) 20:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC) I work for this organization and have permission to use their copyrighted material for a wikipedia article. How do I go about this?

Many thanks

Della Ferrera

This article on Della Ferrera does not contain copyright information as per the other site found because I wrote that too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sempire (talk • contribs) 16:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

The Essential Grandmaster Flash

This article is my own work and contains no copyrighted material. The CorenSearchBot is in error. The highlighted webpage (http://flashfan.net/uk/1219/B000MR9DO0/The_Essential_Grandmaster_Flash) is simply a sleeve illustration and a link to Amazon to buy the CD. It contains NO text at all! As a result I have removed the tag from the article. Davidkt 19:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Also, I have corrected the page title to The Essential which is the correct album title. Davidkt 19:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Ridgewood Concert Band

Hello, I just posted an article about the Ridgewood Concert Band, using material from our website. This material has been copied and used with permission by other sites, most recently the Mid-Europe Festival in Schladming Austria where the band performed last month. As the director of the band I give full permission for the material to be used for the Wikipedia article. cw

the original source is www.ridgewoodband.org and I would like to provide a link to the band's website at the end of the article but was not clever enough to do so cw —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornmanrcb (talk • contribs) 03:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

--Centre Stand (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)== Section B ==

The CSBot is in error here - what it has found has no relevance to the Section B fan group discussed in the article. The information it has displayed refers to something geographical in the North of Scotland, and totally unrelated to football.

The article contains text which is in the public domain - but I think the CSBot is picking up on whatI've stated above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Centre Stand (talk • contribs) 08:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi Centre Stand, you're right, this was a false postive (in relation to Section B). Don't worry, it's sorted now :) Acather96 (talk) 11:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

ASEAN-WEN

I'm offcially the Comms Officer of the ASEAN-WEN and they hold the copyright. However, I recreated this part of the Wiki entry and revised it, so that it's not a direct copy. I placed a link to the actual website of the network's history. I hope that is fine now. Please consult, thank you. PCU ASEAN-WEN (talk) 10:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Kose (disambiguation)

Bot was confused? Flying Saucer (talk) 11:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Cosmin Pencu

About the iOrbix article, I am an iOrbix Public Relations Officer and I am fully authorized to use texts from iOrbix-About Us page. Please consult. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pencu cosmin (talk • contribs) 14:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Nikhil Korula Band

I emailed Wikipedia giving them permission to use information on the Nikhil Korula Band from the www.nkband.com website which I own.

This is unacceptable that the article was taken down. Please rectify this immediately.

Thanking you,

Nikhil Korula

In case you don't have it, here is the article: <copy of article redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by NK122778 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

CSBot is down

Somebody call a doctor! :-P VernoWhitney (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Disclosure of personal information

An attempt to disclose the personal identity of an editor was made in the following AfD discussion. [1] Your assistance is appreciated. Cindamuse (talk) 05:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Future and Freedom

Dear Coren, tonight I wrote a new article on Future and Freedom. Some of its content had been borrowed from other two articles from en.Wiki (both written by me). However your bot identified the new article as a copyviol from www.lifeinitaly.com, an obscure website to which I was not able to connect. I'm sure it was a mistake: as I wrote all the three articles by myself, I guess that it has been www.lifeinitaly.com to borrow content from en.Wiki. What can you to solve the problem? Thank you so much for your help. --Checco (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) While this does appear to be a false positive in terms of the other website, copying text from other articles does need to be attributed unless you wrote all of the other text, without the input of other editors. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I wrote all the text of the borrowed sections of the two articles by myself, indeed... --Checco (talk) 10:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Standing Committee on Legal Wales

I have just started a page on the above Committee, BOT has stopped my publishing as it feels I have breached copyright, I am secretary to the committee and the article that it has found regarding the Richard Commission merely reproduces the Terms of Refrence for the Committee which I have placed on the Committee page - am new to this so please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by X11raj (talk • contribs) 07:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text on new entry The Millennium Song

I received the message about the similarity of the text on my entry with the webpage: http://www.jrsolutions.net/theron/millennium.htm This is because this site (legitimately, and with tacit permission) copied my own text which is on www.globalsong.net. The Millennium Song is an open, non copyrighted project. If there is still a problem with the text, I can re-edit it and vary it a bit... Michael.greenacre (talk) 15:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Michael.greenacre

Candidodontidae - Substantial copy

Hi, you're bot placed an automatic message on the article Candidodontidae, which I just created, saying that it was a substantial copy of this webpage.[2] I'd say the bot's confused, because it's not a copy and I didn't even look at that page when I was writing the article. Maybe the bot placed the message because it found similar terminology in that page? I'll remove the message. Smokeybjb (talk) 17:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I have copied text of which I own the copyright to create the page:Kubrilesque

-Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ticklestlc (talk • contribs) 22:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Armstrong Creek Growth Area

Bot error- ??? all my own words and hadn't looked at the site I apparently copied, so template removed(Crusoe8181 (talk) 06:14, 12 August 2010 (UTC)).

D43 (Croatia)

CorenSearchBot placed a message to my talk page and D43 (Croatia) page specifying a copyright protection issue entailing material found on [3] site. Since there is no similarity between the two other than an unrelated "D43" in the title, I am leaving this notice here as instructed by the bot template.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hobyahs

The link which is provided it a copy of the public domain fairy tale, from which I quoted a short line. Goldfritha (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Aki (name)

Hi. CorenSearchBot left me a message saying that this new page looked like a copy of http://plumbot.com/AKI.html. That page looks like a mirror site, so you may want to add it to your exception list. FYI, everything on the new Wiki page was moved there from Aki. Let me know if you agree. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Daily Bread Co-operative

Sorry I removed the tag reading the guidelines they suggested I could. To be honest they are not very clear. Anyway to prove its all ok I have added to the page on the Daily Bread web site the link to the wiki page and my name to prove there is no copyright issues.

At some point I will re edit it and add articles about Co-ops in my area Dailybreadcoop (talk) 09:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC) John Clarke

Mad Caddies - Consentual Selections

Removed tag, since the whole article is just essentially album track listing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrey Balaguta (talk • contribs) 11:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Robinson

The article Robinson (Paris RER) I just created was marked "potential copyright infringement" by Corenbot. The conflicting page would be http://www.robinsonheli.com . However, apart from the name "Robinson", I don't see any resemblance between the two. One is about a train station near Paris, the other is about a helicopter company. I've removed the tag. Markussep ^Talk 13:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

concerns about false positives

To add another example to the others on this page, I just created a page on a French architect, Charles-Auguste Questel, and instantly received this copyright warning. First, of course I assembled and phrased the text myself, removed the tag, and explained it on the talk page. Not much of a problem. However, more importantly, the cited page IN NO WAY resembles the text I posted. The other page mentions Questel maybe his name alone was unusual enough to trigger the Bot. Don't know. I appreciate and understand the object of the game here, but in this example, the logic is wildly inaccurate. --Lockley (talk) 18:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

1985 Wimbledon Championships – Mixed Doubles

The article is based on mixed doubles, not, as the bot suggested, a men's singles article. With the website the bot considered the article to be a copy of unavailable at present, an error seems to have occurred here. Totalinarian (talk) 20:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In addition, other similar articles in this series have not triggered a copyright alert, also suggesting an error. Totalinarian (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Cavanaughs - copyright notice

hello there, the website in question is my copyright http://mysite.verizon.net/res21fcj/cavanaughstv_about.html and I have proceeded to send out the required note to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org & placed the An email containing details of the permission for this text has been sent in accordance with WP:OTRS on the discussion page. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do to lift the message and correct the error. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cavanaughs1 (talk • contribs) 09:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Karegeya

See [4]. I have dropped several notes to you before without getting any response. I intend to open a community discussion. Do you have any opinion on the correct forum? Aymatth2 (talk) 23:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Comments would be welcome at User:Aymatth2/CorenSearchBot. I have also asked User:Moonriddengirl for comment. I am not sure if I should broaden the discussion and am looking for initial opinions. Aymatth2 (talk) 03:02, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. After conversation with Aymatth2 at my talk page, I've made some changes to the Bot notices. I hope that's okay. I would prefer to talk to you about it first, but you've been gone for ever so long. :/ I've altered Template:Csb-pageincludes, Template:Csb-notice-pageincludes and Template:Csb-notice-pageincluded. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Military aircraft accident / incident list

No need to worry. Me and Bobrayner have matters well in hand... But thanx for the bot, just the same. Mark Sublette (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)Mark SubletteMark Sublette (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Procedure on false positive

Once I have determined the bot has made a false positive error, as at Copper Fox Distillery, should I simply remove {{csb-pageincludes}} or should something be left so the bot does not repeatedly tag the article? Jc3s5h (talk) 16:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You can just remove the tag and mark it as a false positive at the SCV daily page using {{subst:SCV|f}}. CorenSearchBot only looks at new articles, so it won't go back and retag it. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot is down again...

...is there anything we can do to help? VernoWhitney (talk) 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Construing Tang Dynasty restrictions

This is now a stale message, untimely -- issue resolved. --Tenmei (talk) 16:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I want to post on sentence at User talk:Teeninvestor. I have already posted this one sentence message on the talk pages of every other contributor at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Teeninvestor. It is seemly for me to include Teeninvestor among those I've contacted today; but I'm uncertain about how to construe ArbCom's Tang Dynsaty restrictions. Please advise me about this one noteworthy diff; and I will act accordingly. --Tenmei 20:57, 17 August 2010

RfC Teeninvestor

Please comment on what I have posted here. --Tenmei

Very worried about you!

I hope all is well with you, Coren. :( I'm crossing my fingers that you're cruising the Riviera without a care in the world.

And on to business: since CorenSearchBot is down and you are MIA, I'm asking for assistance at the bot owners' noticeboard. I'm hoping we'll be able to get a back-up system until your (safe and happy!) return. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

CSB tag on VIOS Technology

I've removed a CSB tag which was inserted in "VIOS Technology" while I was moving its text from "ViOS", there is no relationship between the company and software/service so they deserve separate articles. MarkMLl (talk) 13:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

False positive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatifs#The_Mock_Turtle.27s_Song

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mock_Turtle%27s_Song

is a false positive. -- Evertype·✆ 13:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. :) That's not actually a false positive, as the content is copied. It's just not a copyright problem, as the material is public domain. Unfortunately, bots can't figure that one out. :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:41, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The content is the same. How does that mean it was copied from there? -- Evertype·✆ 16:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't, but it was copied from somewhere. A false positive is when there are no similarities between the page and the suspected source and the content was likely original to Wikipedia. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:30, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Matija Vojsalić

Regarding the article "Matija Vojsalić", I copy-pasted text from wiki pages House of Hrvatinić and List of rulers of Bosnia. I don't know are those articles include material copied directly from: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/House_of_Hrvatinic. Kebeta (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Replied at your page. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Brown v Texas - false positive

The quotes in the Brown v Texas page are from the Supreme Court decision itself. I don't think there's a copyright problem here.

Jonathan.robie (talk) 00:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

False positive

The bot's claim about the 1989 US Open – Mixed Doubles article seems to have been based on the fact that Robin White appears in both of them. The article in question, though, is a tennis draw and not a copy of a news item about White, so a false positive seems to have occured. Totalinarian (talk) 19:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Hugoton Royalty Trust

This description was copied from the trust's periodic filings with the Securities & Exchange Commission; ipso facto it is in the public domain.The Outhouse Mouse (talk) 03:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Cross Timbers Royalty Trust

This description was copied from the trust's periodic filings with the Securities & Exchange Commission; "ipso facto" it is in the public domain.The Outhouse Mouse (talk) 03:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

There is an autorisation for using this text!

Now you know it, I'll rewrite it. Sincerely Austrian Economic Center--Aecenter (talk) 09:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

My article on Tabby's Place

Hi!

I'm new to this whole process and horribly confused, but I truly want to get my article on "Tabby's Place: A Cat Sanctuary" published. I did not understand the rules about re-creating articles that were previously deleted and am now subsequently deep into the process of this re-creation. How do I continue and manage to avoid another rejection? I am removing a tag referring to language on the Tabby's Place URL to avoid that identified problem, but I would greatly appreciate your help in guiding me around fatal errors!

Regards - Bonnie0718 (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back!

It just isn't the same around here without you. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I had an accute case of reallifesucksitis, but it's now cured. I'm still easing back in, trying to catch up, but I should be back to full activity shortly.  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 15:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Very happy to see you; glad you have recovered! --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be a global pandemic. I was affected as well. WB. MLauba ^(Talk) 15:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:Csb-pageincludes

Regarding the above page, I realize your bot is back up and running but with the changes, any copyvio-tagging bot can use the template rather than having to reinvent the wheel and for consistency. E.g., see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VWBot 8. Thoughts? –xeno^talk 16:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that's reasonable indeed. But then the template name is teh suxx0rs and we probably want to make it (them) more generic? At any rate, I'd rather tweak the template to accept the bot name as parameter than be this vague, because we would want a link to the specific bot that tagged, wouldn't we? — Coren ^(talk)

Yea, that was going to be my next suggestion (could accept botname= as an optional parameter). As far as the template name, they don't necessarily have to be renamed. CSB could also stand for copyright search bot ;p –xeno^talk 16:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Heh. Hadn't considered there was a trivial backronym that fitted, so that's all good. The optional parameter is probably best, then. Having a backup to CSBot is full of win. — Coren ^(talk) 16:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed... You might consider helping re-write the code to allow an "active standby" mode or something. I know VW mentioned he wasn't too comfortable with the lang. –xeno^talk 16:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Since the topic has come up, I noticed that there's a "MinEditDelay" parameter placed on the config page, but I don't see that it's used anywhere in the code. Is it in there somewhere that I don't see, or would you happen to have any code sitting around that does use it? If not, I guess I'll be learning more Perl tomorrow so that VWBot is really a backup. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 16:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh. *blush* No, that part of the code got ripped out of CSBot around 1.2 because it broke things, and I never coded an editing delay back up since, in practice, CSBot is limited by the speed of engine search and page comparison to much slower than the limit ever was anyways.

It would probaby be a good thing to add some external synchronization system, though. I can trivially make an activity timestamp available on a web page from the "primary" bot, for instance, which the "backup" bot can look at before it decides whether to try tagging? — Coren ^(talk) 16:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so I can code in a sleep (as you suggested at the BRFA) to use that parameter and a delay of like 10 minutes or something which should make it only and always a backup. As far as making sure that it doesn't double-tag something where the original tag has been removed, I was thinking of adding a query for all previous editors of the page and rule it out if CorenSearchBot has already touched it, just the same as if it had a tag on the latest revision. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Jumping back to the original topic of this thread, I just followed xeno's lead and tweaked the templates so that all of the article tags (as well as notification tags) are dependent upon whichever bot places them. That should eliminate the need for adding a new parameter. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I spaced that they were transcluded and not substituted onto the articles... Oh well. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Since all coders are around, can I do a shameless plug and remind that we'll probably need an other Copyright Search Bot scanning any articles subject to Pending Changes if / when that gets adopted? There's probably a requested feature list somewhere in the archives of WT:SCV this archive. :) MLauba ^(Talk) 16:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I hadn't had that idea before (the conversation was before my time), so thanks for the pointer. It seems somewhat along the same lines as scanning recent changes for large additions of content which may be copyvio. When it comes to pending changes though there's another problem: is there any extension to the API to figure out which revisions have been accepted? VernoWhitney (talk) 17:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm gonna talk out of my behind and say yes: Special:AdvancedReviewLog is, in my uninformed opinion, probably populated by that. MLauba ^(Talk) 17:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi, Coren! I just wanted to express my gratitude for your having taken the time at ANI a short while ago to provide this information concerning my name-jumping band-spam friend. Most helpful. Also, I have to say that I respect the attitude you communicate on your user page extremely. This place would be ever so much more productive and pleasant if we could all manage just a bit more humility, I think, and it's encouraging to see it in evidence on your page. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The Next war poem

Hi there, CSB tagged the next war poem page I just created for copyright material. The thing is the material is in public domain and available on Wikisource - the place where it found the similarity with. I linked to the Wikisource version from the page as well. I did edit a part of the poem out since the complete text is available but shouldn't it exclude results from Wikisource, if a text is there it only means its either in public domain or uploaded with permission. --Theo10011 (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Possible bug with CorenSearchBot

There may be other things wrong with the article Crime of conscience (it appears to be translated without attribution from Japanese sources), but copyvio via vimeo doesn't seem to be one of them. Somehow, the article got matched to a vimeo page with the same title, but I was not able to find anything in common between the article and the video description/comments. I suppose it might be possible it matched it against a comment or description that no longer exists...?

-- Joren (talk) 04:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Simone Scatizzi

Hi I just got finished doing a stub about Bishop Simone Scatizzi abd your bot tagged it a copyright violation from a website that I never use. Scatizzi was a Roman Catholic bishop-the article was a stub and a reference was from Catholic-Hierarchy.org something your bot ignore. I agree with the previous editor, your bot has a bug. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Not really, no. The bot picked a copy from a site that apparently mirrors Wikipedia within seconds. Coren may want to add fiveafrica.com to CSB's whitelist, though. MLauba ^(Talk) 13:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for your comment-RFD (talk) 13:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Fiveafrica added to WP:MIRROR, non-compliant (no attribution to Wikipedia, no link back, no contributor histories, it's just a straight wikitext dump). MLauba ^(Talk) 13:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Sovetsky (inhabited locality)

This probably needs to be fixed—the link is to a Wikipedia mirror.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)