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Latest comment: 12 years ago by The Interior in topic Weezer tour
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Weezer tour
editHi Cricketmedia. I'm going to have to revert some of your edits regarding the Weezer cruise. Wikipedia is not a promotional tool. If this cruise is notable enough, please provide some third-party coverage to show this. The event's website does not suffice. Thanks, have a good one (kinda wish I was going on the cruise myself!) The Interior (Talk) 19:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for a thoughtful reply. As to your sourcing question, the event's website is a primary source. While it proves the existence of something, it doesn't necessarily prove that the event is notable. What we use to gauge notability is coverage in third-party sources (in this case, reliable music websites, magazines, books, or news coverage.) Policy link: WP:SOURCES. As for promotion, it is a bit of a fine line. I would argue that an encyclopedia article that provides neutral coverage based on reliable sources is not promotional. Otherwise I wouldn't bother volunteering here! So, in short, additions about an upcoming event sourced only to the event's website will be interpreted by most users as promotion rather than encyclopedic info. However, an addition about an event sourced to an article about the event would be viewed differently. Hope I've made this a (little) bit clearer, let me know if you have more questions, The Interior (Talk) 20:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Much credit for actually taking the time to read some policy pages, a lot of new editors don't bother and run into difficulties. I know there's a lot of rules, but they make sense for the most part. The Chicago Sun-Times piece does establish notability in my mind, and I've have no problem with the cruise being mentioned on the Weezer page with that citation. (or Rolling Stone, NME, or MTV - all good sources, but the Sun-Times piece looks to be the most substantial) As to the rest of the artists involved, you really have to look at whether this event is notable in terms of their career as a whole. With Sebadoh/Dinosaur Jr., I'm not so sure. The fact that they have reunited is important, but probably not every gig. Best, The Interior (Talk) 23:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've taken away the subsection heading for the cruise, really only need those when there's enough content to justify a subsection. Also took away the "main article" link template for the cruise article. When/if it's written, a normal wikilink should be used. Thanks for the references, The Interior (Talk) 05:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- Much credit for actually taking the time to read some policy pages, a lot of new editors don't bother and run into difficulties. I know there's a lot of rules, but they make sense for the most part. The Chicago Sun-Times piece does establish notability in my mind, and I've have no problem with the cruise being mentioned on the Weezer page with that citation. (or Rolling Stone, NME, or MTV - all good sources, but the Sun-Times piece looks to be the most substantial) As to the rest of the artists involved, you really have to look at whether this event is notable in terms of their career as a whole. With Sebadoh/Dinosaur Jr., I'm not so sure. The fact that they have reunited is important, but probably not every gig. Best, The Interior (Talk) 23:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)