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the looting flame

hi - I'm quite new here - at what point do we send the discussion up for arbitrage? cheers, DocendoDiscimus 15:14, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

You have to dig up the community pages... it's quite a hell to find, and I never had the need before. Anyway I think Katefan already submitted arbitrage. --Cyclopia 10:19, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Ben Gatti and Looting

Arbcom cases that are taken are for user conduct. If you look at the statements, we do mention other articles that Ben has worked on. So yep. Feel free to add whatever you would like. Look at the evidence page and just follow the format they prescribe. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 21:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

New Force

Sorry about the tone. What annoyed me is not that added categories back, back that you had done it only for New Force. I thought that getting all the neofasc. parties into a single cat (while perhaps encompassing articles which are not really for parties) would make it redundant for them to be listed as parties.

Yes, "by ideology" is not a categorization yet for Italy. But check out Category:Communist parties in Spain and Category:Communist parties in France (or Category:Socialist parties in France). In fact, I have already "ideologized" the categorizing for politicians in Italy as well: Category:Italian communists (note the subcating per party) and its parent Category:Italian socialists. The fact is that I was going to do something like that with parties themselves, but I frankly got tired after having categorized more than half of the people in Category:Italian politicians (and copy-edited in 80% of the cases, while also translating some new articles from italian wiki). I had also been doing the same for Fascism and Neofascism, creating a logical flow in categories (this is why the "Italian neofascism" thing popped out before other ideologies in Italy). Now, sorry again, but when I first saw what you did, I thought you were like that person who keeps adding Category:Fascism to the Adolf Hitler article, not caring that he is already in 12 subcategories of that one.

If you feel the need to par this with new categories for other Italian parties by ideology (although I think we'd all be clueless as to where one would include Forza Italia), go ahead. Dahn 18:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

DYK Hall of Fame

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Massimo Morsello, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

• Wohoo! Thank you, Petaholmes! I hope it is only the first of a long series. Cyclopia 14:24, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Jeff Hawke, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

This is the second of a long series ;) --Gurubrahma 09:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article DJ Gruff, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 13:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

On 29 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Franco Freda, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 21:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Santee

Cyclopia states:

Santee is pretty "ghetto". Everyone I knew growing up there wanted to leave. Those who were successful left years ago. Those who did not either ended up working for the military or in entry-level, minimum-wage jobs. For successful adults, buying a house and settling down in Santee could be nice. But the racism and class problems that arise (mainly affecting youth in the area) make it pretty "ghetto". Anyways, Santee IS affordable to the working class, but most of the people living there aren't even working class. And the article does not say that conservatism is a bad thing. So, instead of arguing, I'll just take that remark out until it has been backed up with some evidence, okay? And yes, Santee's claim to fame IS the school shooting. Being friendly and clean is not a claim to fame. Tijuana is friendly and clean. Santee is tumbleweeds and poor people.

You are stating personal info not actual fact. And you are misusing the term "ghetto"

ghet·to n. pl. ghet·tos or ghet·toes A section of a city occupied by a minority group who live there especially because of social, economic, or legal pressure. Provided By: http://www.dictionary.com

Santee is made of mostly white people not a minority. The majority of people in Santee are of stable economic standards and are NOT suffering from poverty.

You state that: "but most of the people living there aren't even working class" The majority of people live there are families. And the majority of adult commute out of the city for work. (That is why two freeways were created and construction of the rest of the "52" is underway to connect to the "67" (June 2006) Santee also has a very low unemployment rate. Lower than the city of San Diego.

You also state: "Santee is tumbleweeds and poor people." This statement is WAY unfactual and incorrect. In the year 2000: The average income is SANTEE was 53,624 and in San Diego it was $45,733 Source: http://www.city-data.com

I would like to recommend that in the future you not let PERSONAL experiences and info allow you to over look fact and there is not proof or statistics about Santee being a "racist" community

I have Santee in my watchlist, but, never having been in the USA, let alone Santee, I have never wrote that thing. You must report your rant to someone else. :) --Cyclopia 08:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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Ordine Nuovo

Ciao! thanks for your attention on Ordine Nuovo. Concerning the Third Position, could you find any sources (on-line & off-line), in English, Italian or whatever, about this? It would help improve the article. Tazmaniacs 15:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I know there is an autobiographical book written by Fiore and Adinolfi called Noi Terza Posizione; some far right bookstore should have/provide it. Googling will lead you to a bit of sparse material. There is also the Ugo Tassinari book Fascisterie that SHOULD have good material, but I don't know. I still have to read it. --Cyclopia 21:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Blocking Equine nutrition

Removed my previous posts...another admin restored the Equine nutrition article after I spend about five hours footnoting it. Apologies for too much material too close to verbatim, there were actually many different sources, just got careless about footnoting, didn't rewrite enough, thought the thing was covered by the cites at the bottom of the article for the short term. If there are still concerns, I would appreciate a heads up and 24 hours to fix rather than having the whole article blanked. Montanabw 01:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

You're forgiven. I should have done more rewriting and footnoting from the outset, I was impatient to get the article up. Montanabw 23:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Ross Bolleter suggestion for DYK

Interesting article; however, the main text (lists etc are not counted) is currently a little under the minimum of 1500 characters, are you able to expand it? It would probably also help if there was a source independent of the subject for the fact included in the hook. Regards, Espresso Addict 18:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Turkmenistan cities

Hi I added an infobox to Darvaza. You can google the place to retrieve the coordinates. I'll look to stub these articles soon, so any help you can give in flling in the list would be great ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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Uh, it's stuff I uploaded when I was young and naive...It's most probable the image is not suitable for WP. Delete it and sorry for the inconvenience. --Cyclopia (talk) 18:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Roberto Fiore

Hallo Cyclopia,

Hi Polentario

The german version refers to an italian court 1985 declaring TP as a camouflage of Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari and Fiore being sentenced for support of a armed subversive gang (associazione sovversiva e banda armata). Is that supported by the recent sources you mentioned?

I guess it is more or less that. TP was defined the so-called "political arm" of the NAR. The sentence for Fiore (and Adinolfi) is correct. I'd have to check the books to be sure, but it seems what it has been. --Cyclopia (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I registered as well that you contributed to Terza Posizione and Terza via (fascismo). The German expression is Querfront and refers to intense discussions between the antidemocratic edges in the 20ies till 1932. It was more of a discussion with Karl Radek playing an important role, less a reality in interior politics, but strange political bedfellows working closelay together became a major treat of German foreign affairs Soviet–German relations before 1941 till (my POV) Schröder and Putin.

This I don't think to understand correctly. Are you asking me something or what? Can you explain me better? I'm sorry but I can't grasp the concept you are trying to explain (my fault probably).--Cyclopia (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I try to explain the basic features of german Third Positioning in germany. E.g. the Trattato di Rapallo (1922) was seen as a "foreign policy- version" of Third position ideology, a close understanding between left and right over national borders. --Polentario (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Fiore has been in Germany now and then. Especially in Eastern germany, Querfront tendencies play an ongoing role on the right. The German wiki Discussion is rather inbound and not much looking to the european context, so I would appreciate any info about broader sources. --Polentario (talk) 22:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I have quite a bit of knowledge on the Italian scene but no info on the European context, I'm sorry. All what I can say is that third positionism is widespread in the far right scene, under various tendencies etc, but really nothing more. I'd like to know about good books on the subject. --Cyclopia (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Just try to pick up more about Armin Mohler and the Nouvelle Droite respectively Arthur Moeller van den Bruck and "Konservative Revolution". I try to get some english translations, how is your french? --Polentario (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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I am not interested in discussion on anything with an editor who sucks up [1] to other biased editors.I am intitled to delete whatever I want from my usepage and talkpage; unless you are an administrator on Wikipedia business I don't have to bother with your pestering, and it can be viewed as harassment. GabrielVelasquez (talk) 17:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Gabriel, it is quite amusing that you remind me about the WP:NPA and accuse me of "harassment" when it was you the first accusing me of sockpuppetry (and I politely asked you to apologize for such senseless accusations). Of course you are entitled to do whatever you want with your userpage and talkpage. One thing however is what you are entitled to, another is what is correct and polite to do. As for "sucking up", well, I simply knew the work of Langton by mean of the website of one of his advisors (oklo.org) and I was happy to have him on WP. However I don't care about what you think about that. Only thing I care is that you remove any accusation of me using J. Langton as a sockpuppet (or that you substantiate your claim: which is blatantly impossible, since we are two different users -a simple IP tracing by admins should show that beyond doubt). This, as I reminded you, is a strong, unwarranted personal attack on my reputation that I cannot admit. So please apologize for that. I don't think I am asking too much. --Cyclopia (talk) 19:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

To reply to your question on my talk: I think the RfC is a very heavy-handed process, and is premature in the process. To me, it looks like you didn't get what you wanted in WQA, so took the next step, rather than see if the behaviour changed. Bad idea, and I cannot support that kind of heavy-handedness. BMW(drive) 10:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Did you look at the conversation that Gabriel and I have been having on each other's Talk page? I think you'd really get a better idea of their POV on this situation, and that they ALSO want it solved, if you did. BMW(drive) 11:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Featured topics/Solar System

Would you be interested in stepping over there? Your sortable Solar System wikitable would be a useful talking point, as there has been much pressure to include lists in the topic. Thank you. Serendi^podous 08:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I just did, don't know if in the right place however. --Cyclopia (talk) 09:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Administrator's noticeboard discussion

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Ok, thanks... to be honest I wasn't sure which of the two locations would be better in the first place. Icalanise (talk) 08:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, but as I've had only one encounter with him, there's really not much for me to say. I was honestly kind of hoping to avoid further interactions based on the previous one. :) Still, feel free to use the he left me note on my talk page if you think that will help, and hopefully you will reach a resolution that will be beneficial to all users involved. BOZ (talk) 01:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I have mentioned you were involved in this matter in an arbitration request. Icalanise (talk) 20:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

My userpage

yeah, sorry about that. Just too tempting. :) Manhattan Samurai (talk) 01:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you think you could do me a BIG favour?

Sorry to rush things, but I think it's time we started thinking of converting List of spherical astronomical bodies in the Solar System to a sortable table with the values along the top, rather than along the side as they are now. I have no idea how to do this, and was hoping you could pitch in, because User:Dojarca is on the verge of starting an edit war with me again and I would prefer not to have to go through another dispute resolution. Thank you. Serendi^podous 15:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I basically didn't understand exactly what you are trying to tell me, apart from the fact you want to convert that table to a sortable table. I am pretty busy with real-life work now, but you are obviously free to look at how the sortable table I drafted is made, and convert it. Syntax is basically the same of normal tables. I'll jump in ASAP but don't know when. As for the edit war, what's the deal? --Cyclopia (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm currently going through a cleanup of all the Solar System lists, because there are too many. My dream is to merge most of the lists into a single, sortable list that deals with all the Solar System objects (your list probably will remain separate, since the list will deal with moons as well as planets and so concepts like perihelion probably won't enter into it). The current list is the result of the mergence of three lists, including one, List of planetary bodies, that was being maintained by Dajorca. When I completed the merge (after putting in a great deal of work to ensure that all the material covered in her article was in the new one) she reverted it, claiming that she would only accept the merge if I went through AfD. So I did, and the consensus was redirect. Now she's trying to preserve her article by copying it wholesale into the other list, claiming that the AfD suggested that the list be organised horizontally, rather than vertically, which is true, but never an excuse to get around a redirect. But I know that no matter what I say, she's going to put the info back until I take her through another round of dispute resolution, unless I redraft the entire list so that the values are listed horizontally. Given my options, I'd prefer to do that. Serendi^podous 16:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

What does it mean "values are listed horizontally"? It is a table: it has two directions. Do you mean that the same kind of value (e.g. diameter) is on a row instead of a column? However my table has values vertical (I don't even known if horizontal sortability is possible) so I really don't know how it can satisfy the other editor. --Cyclopia (talk) 16:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

That's what I meant. I suppose I could always ask the person at the AfD who mentioned it how to do it. Serendi^podous 18:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

How's your Solar System master list coming along? Serendi^podous 21:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Badly. That is, I'm fulltime busy in this period (even spent my weekend in the lab) so I kinda abandoned the thing by now. I check my watchlist here and there but that's all the WP I can do in this period. I'm sorry, it's in my mind and I hope to pick it back with the holidays. --Cyclopia (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, let me know when you get back on it. There's no immediate rush; I have to promote about eight other lists before this one becomes an issue, but it will need to be done eventually. Good luck in the lab! :-) Serendi^podous 11:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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Mac OS X microkernel

Regarding this edit from last month; Mac OS X is in fact not a microkernel-based operating system. While Mach 3.0 is generally known as a microkernel, the XNU kernel (which Mac OS X is built on) also contains both the BSD components and IOKit, which makes it a hybrid kernel. If anything, it's a testament to the flexibility of Mach. You can review XNU for more details on this. Cheers. Warren -talk- 09:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I have read the article on XNU (which I already knew), and yet I don't see where the contradiction is. XNU seems based on the Mach microkernel, combining also BSD components and other stuff. So it's a microkernel-based thing. It's probably matter of my ignorance however; can you pinpoint me where is the problem? Thanks for your interest! --Cyclopia (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)