User talk:D1982291/Archives/2020/December

14 October 2020

Hi, just asking if the actor who played Bamsi has left? I've tried searching but found nothing. Newspaper articled have written articles but don't know themselves. I found one that said he would be appearing later in the series. However, on the actor's instagram I saw that the actor had watched episode 28 and wished the cast good luck as if he wasn't in the series? I was wondering if you know anything? I'd be beyond sad if he wasn't in this series considering he's a great character, important in Ottoman history and now that Ertugrul is back it would be nice to see them together. Also, we didn't see Selcan Hatun or Abdul Rehman Gazi but I noticed all three actors' names are in the theme song Michelle Tomlinson (talk) 20:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, no, don't worry, he hasn't left, he just got injured after he fell off a mortorcycle, Mehmet is using the excuse that he went to train the alps, he'll appear possibly in episode 12. Limorina (talk) 17:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I'm really happy to hear that. I really like his character. Hope he gets better. Adulrehaman was in this episode so never mind. Didem Balcin said on her Instagram that Selcan would be appearing in this episode too but she wasn't there. I assume she'll be there next episode or sometime in the future too? Thanks for the reply. Michelle Tomlinson (talk) 14:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

17 October 2020

I think how Malhun Hatun will be introduced and married to Osman is that Bala won't conceive a child and that causes Osman to marry Malhun (pressure from others or his own decision or even Bala encourages him too) but then after they are married she will discover she is pregnant. I'm calling it now. What are your thoughts? Michelle Tomlinson (talk) 18:18, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I totally think the same! But I think that it could also be for political reasons, but your idea makes perfect sense, this was probably the reason Bala was even stabbed by a Mongol, otherwise, all that stavbing would have been unnecessary. Limorina (talk) 18:51, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

15 November 2020

Thanks for adding those images. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Your welcome!--Limorina (talk) 13:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

18 November 2020

Hi, please revert the format of the kurulus osman page, and add all the characters back to it, what u did to the page is nonsense! Please do it as soon as possible Wikistupid564 (talk • contribs) 12:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Disagree. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@Wikistupid564: There is now a main article for the 'Cast and characters' section: List of Kuruluş: Osman characters. If that is your problem. I didn't change anything else on the page besides merging the 'Prequel' section into the plot, which I don't think is bad at all. I think everyone including Gråbergs Gråa Sång agrees that the format of the page isn't bad at all. Also, I want my talk page to look neat so please sign your comments. Thank you. Limorina (talk) 15:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

20 November 2020

Hi Gülay/Limorina, Hope you are fine and have being doing well. I was here to suggest you something, as your articles are mostly I would counsel you to use DMY dates in the articles, as the date format of Turkey is DMY, to find our more about it you can visit Date format by country to find about the format, and another thing, does your name means new flower? Because I know Gül means flower, Ay means month, but the name Ayça means new moon. Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 08:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Tahaaleem: Hi Tahaaleem! So for the first part of your message, okay, I'll do it, I'm quite new so I didn't know about DMY dates. For the second part, what you said is pretty accurate, my name means 'moonflower'. Limorina (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

That's good, so I was nearly right about the meaning. Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 06:41, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

24 November 2020

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29 November 2020

Hi, hope you are well. I am speaking from Bangladesh. I want to give you an information. You will be happy to know that Bengali dubbing of Kurulus Osman has already been completed in Bangladesh. From December 1, it will start broadcasting on a video streaming app called Toffee. This app is operated by a Bangladeshi telecommunication operator company called Banglalink. And a dubbing company named SRK Studios has done the dubbing work. Before this, SRK Studios also did Bengali dubbing of Dirilis Ertugrul. So I urge you to include this information in the list of international broadcasts of Kurulus Osman on Wikipedia.

For your convenience, I am giving the information:

• Country: Bangladesh,
• Network: Toffee App,
• Series Premiere: 1 December 2020,
• Notes: Bengali Dubbing.

Please include this information, I will be grateful to you. And yes, I'm waiting for a positive reply. Best Regards. Hasanul71 (talk) 07:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hasanul71! Firstly, the Kuruluş: Osman page is not semi-protected and nor am I the only person who can edit the page. I am just a regular Wikipedian. Secondly, if you have a book or a news article, or anything related to that which proves that what your saying is right, then we can use your information but it will be written separately in a paragraph because it is broadcasted on an app rather than a TV channel. I found this different website which talks about Bengali dubbing that can be used as a source, however, it's a different website. This is a link to the source, [1]. If you can find any information anywhere about the 'Toffee App' then there will be no problem in adding it. Limorina (talk) 10:21, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok Hasanul71 (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I have sent you some links. But I don't understand if these have reached you, because they are not showing here. However, since Toffee doesn't have an official website, it didn't come to the official website, so you didn't get it. But it has received enough publicity through their app and Facebook. Moreover, many Bangladeshi bloggers have also posted it on their website. You sent me a link like this. However, if you do not get the links that I have given you, please give me your email. I will email you enough official sources. Thanks. Hasanul71 (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hasanul71, if there aren't any citations, then we can't add information about it. I'll add information about the app for now with a citation tag as I can trust you, whenever you find a citation please add it. Limorina (talk) 17:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try do it.Thank you. Hasanul71 (talk) 18:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

22 December 2020

Barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For creating, expanding, cleaning and maintaining the articles related to Diriliş: Ertuğrul & Kuruluş: Osman. You deserve this barnstar for your industrious efforts, untiring contributions, hard-work and diligence. Hope that you'd continue your work with more enthusiasm. Keep it up. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 10:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

@Empire AS: Thank you so much, Empire AS! If you, Tahaaleem and Gråbergs Gråa Sång hadn't helped me in understanding Wikipedia, I might've never even kept on editing Wikipedia for long! I learnt a lot of things from all of you, even this signature: Limorina (talk) 10:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

That's good. In the beginning, no one knows everything but learns gradually with time. But you said your signature also, how? Thanks for the compliment. Empire AS ^Talk! 10:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

I seriously didn't know how to sign a comment on Wikipedia! Limorina (talk) 10:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

And despite my evil-bastardness at afd:s etc, you stuck around anyway. Well done. We shall make WP even greater! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations Limorina for your first barnstar on Wikipedia, you sure deserved meritorious for your diligence, Gelecek için iyi şanslar ve devam et. If you need any help regarding Wikipedia, you can freely ask me on my talk page, you have already written separate articles for the seasons of both series Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 11:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Besides this, I also caused the speedy deletion nominations of 5 articles, I remember. Whom you successfully managed to save. It believed me that you weren't here to leave but would stay. Empire AS ^Talk! 11:38, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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23 December 2020

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24 December 2020

Hi Limorina, hope you are fine and safe, as the virus in UK is much severe and grievous, however I have to ask what improvements me can bring to season articles of Diriliş: Ertuğrul, any ideas, and again I want to thank you creating articles on it, Turkish is your mother tongue it was easier to make articles for you. İyi çalışmaya devam edin. Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 07:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Tahaaleem! I'm good, hope you are too, I'm currently working on the fourth season, then the fifth and finally I would add the posters. What I could advise you to do is find the original plot for each episode, add an episode template (like the KO season articles), and add the original episode plots, I was going to do it but all the plot summaries I could find were for the Netflix episodes. That isn't very important so another thing you can do if you wish is add a production and reception section to the articles (like the KO ones again), I know that Diriliş: Ertuğrul (season 1) has a production section but it needs improvements. Later on, I will also make a "List of Diriliş: Ertuğrul characters" article too. Limorina (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh and another thing, the season one plot needs to be improved, I found this really long plot in the semi-protected edit requests:

Seeking to solve the unrest, Suleyman Shah sends his son Ertuğrul on a mission to find a new place for the nomad group to settle. He specifically sends Ertuğrul and his three best alps (Turgut, Bamsi and Doĝan) to seek an agreement with the Sultan of Aleppo, El Aziz. This angers Ertuğrul's half-brother, Gündoğdu, as settling the tribe in Aleppo was his idea. Before leaving for Aleppo, Ertuğrul saves Halime Sultan and her father and brother from the Templars. Halime Sultan refuses to reveal her true identity initially, but the Kayi tribe eventually find out that Halime Sultan's father is the brother of Sultan Alâeddin Keykûbad, the Sultan of the Seljuk Empire, and thus a prince. Ertuğrul and Halime Sultan fall in love. Ertuğrul successfully makes an agreement with El Aziz, and his tribe settles in Aleppo. However, El Aziz is surrounded by secret agents working for the Templars. They convince him to execute his uncle and break his agreement with Ertuğrul. El Aziz, who is not the most clever ruler, falls in love with Halime Sultan and tries to force her to become his wife when he finds out her true identity. Ertuğrul works tirelessly to show El Aziz the Truth, but El Aziz is only convinced when his soldiers disobey his orders and attempt to kill him.

Turgut, one of Ertuğrul's closest friends and strongest alps, and Yiğit (Halime Sultan's younger brother) are captured by the Templars and taken to their castle. While Turgut is tortured senseless in the dungeon, Yiğit is taken into the castle and treated like royalty. Turgut is made to drink a drug everyday, to which he becomes addicted. This drug also makes Turgut's mind muddled, and he begins to believe that he is aligned with the Templars, and not with the Kayi Tribe. The only thing that grounds him to reality is his relationship with Aykiz, the girl he wants to marry. The Templars train Turgut to fight for their side, and even when Turgut is returned to the Kayi tribe, they are able to continue giving him the drug through their secret allies in the tribe. Aykiz works tirelessly to heal Turgut, which eventually works. They eventually are able to marry.

The Templars additionally plan to use Yiğit to take over Sultan Alâeddin Keykûbad's throne, as Yiğit will give them legitimacy. Although Yiğit is just a small boy, he sees through their schemes. He is befriended by Isadora, the niece of the head Templar, Petruccio Manzini. Although her uncle is evil, Isadora is a sincere Christian and hates her uncle for killing her sister and imprisoning her father because he converted to Islam. Isadora leaves the Templar's castle to give the Kayi tribe important information about how to infiltrate the castle and defeat her uncle. She is found out, and her uncle orders her to be imprisoned and killed for her treachery. Before the guards can take her, Isadora stabs her uncle with a poisoned dagger. Isadora is murdered in the dungeons by her uncle's command. Petruccio becomes gravely ill. Titus takes over as the leader of the Templars. Petruccio is eventually executed when the Templar castle is conquered by the Kayi Tribe.

Gündoğdu struggles with the lies within the tribe. Gündoğdu's wife, Selcan, plots her revenge against Süleyman Shah, who sentenced her father to death for treason against their tribe when she was seven years old. Although Süleyman Shah raised Selcan and her sister Gökçe as his adoptive daughters after, Selcan still harbors resentment in her heart. She even works together with Kurdoğulu, Süleyman Shah's brother, to plot the demise of Süleyman Shah. Little does she know, Kurdoğulu is not after simple revenge, and is actually secretly working with the Templars to become the Bey of the Tribe himself. With the support of the Templars, Kurdoğlu stages a coup and removes Süleyman Shah from the position of Bey of the tribe. Selcan changes her ways when she finds out what Kurdoğulu is up to, and Halime Sultan saves her life by preventing her from drinking poisoned water. She seeks guidance from Ibn Arabi, who recommends she reveals her wrongdoings to her family for true redemption. She proves she has changed when she jumps in front of Titus's arrow for Gündoğdu and almost dies. Turgut plays a key role in saving Süleyman Shah's family and reversing the coup.

By the end of the season, the Kayi tribe, led by Ertuğrul, defeats the Templars and takes over their castle. They are able to do so with Yiğit's help as he has important information about the tunnels under the castle. Kurdoğlu is sentenced to death for treason. Ertuğrul and Halime Sultan are able to marry after Gökçe releases her imagined claim on Ertuğrul. Süleyman Shah dies at the end of the season while riding his horse through a river, which Hayme Ana, his wife, sees in her dream as a premonition. She becomes the leader of the Kayi tribe when Süleyman Shah dies. The clan decides to leave Aleppo and migrate to Anatolia.

It only needs to be shortened to around 400 words. Thank you. Limorina (talk) 09:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for providing the plot, I will summarise it if I can, and about plot for each episodes it would be arduous to find. However, keep up the good work. Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 09:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

25 December 2020

Hey. Can you make an article on the turkish television series Mehmetçik:kutulamare? Yoirin (talk • contribs) 14:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Yoirin, first of all, hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. So you were asking me to create an article about a Turkish TV show, well I have a few problems:

• I haven't watched that show so I won't know much about the in-universe information.
• I don't have any time to start a new draft, I'm already working on an article for the fifth season of Diriliş: Ertuğrul and will later be working on an article about the characters in that show. After that I'm making an article about the historical Tekfur, Aya Nikola.
• I feel really stressed out usually and have a lot of other work to do outside of Wikipedia.

I seriously have a lot of reasons but just not enough time to explain them all, if you want, you can always create your own article about that show, just see WP:RS, WP:N and then have a look at WP:FIRST. Thank you. Limorina (talk) 19:10, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok no worries Yoirin (talk) 20:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

27 December 2020

Ref made me laugh

[2] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, haha, I actually watched that interview between Cengiz Coşkun and Waseem Badami live, it made me laugh, he is pretty good-looking to be honest! Limorina (talk) 21:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I think it was around 2017, I was confused why so many editors insisted on including the name Esra Bilgiç at Halime Hatun. Then I googled her name, and it was "Yeah ok, I see it." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Btw, I don't know if you've discovered the Wikipedia:Reference desk yet. It can be useful (with some luck), see Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Ertuğrul_the_boat. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:42, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh thanks, that may be a bit ​ useful. Limorina (talk) 10:05, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Limorina, sorry for disturbing you, hope you are fine, I wanted to ask, there are no titles for Season 5 on IMDb, how can we find the titles?, and one other thing, if you want to archive your discussions you can simply select a bot they will archive your discussions from your talk page. Thank you.Tahaaleem ^Talk 12:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Tahaaleem, for season 5, you have to go on Twitter archives to find the titles because Diriliş Dizisi (the official Diriliş: Ertuğrul Twitter account) is the first to post them, the five season 4 titles I think may be incorrect because I got it off an unreliable source, maybe check BeyazPerde.com? They might have the titles but I doubt it. I get the Kuruluş: Osman titles from Kuruluş Dizisi, on Twitter, by the way. Limorina (talk) 12:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I will try to find the titles and add them at the episodes section. Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 12:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Limorina, you should check the List of Diriliş: Ertuğrul and Kuruluş: Osman episodes Season 1, 2 and 3, did you meant like that, like you said in Empire AS' message wall, also those templates have already been converted by him, Thank you. Tahaaleem ^Talk 12:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

28 December 2020

Hi, Limorina, hope that you'd be alright. The posters have been uploaded. However, I wanted to ask you a question that you changed the size of File:Kuruluş Osman S1.jpg, reverted it, changed and again reverted that. This revision appeared good but you reverted it too. In the File:Diriliş Ertuğrul S4.jpg, you replaced it by a big-sized image. I was already going to upload that but that contained some text written on it. Therefore, I didn't do that but you did. Besides this, you also changed the image File:Diriliş Ertuğrul S1.jpg. But the older image included more characters than newer and I think it was good to keep that old image. Thank you. Empire AS ^Talk! 09:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Empire AS, hi! So the reason why I changed it was because I wanted to include the Bozdağ Film, TRT 1, ATV, Tekden Film logos on the posters. There are a few season 4 posters without any text so we can upload them if you wish. For season 1, I don't think the shape or size is suitable to be a poster, I think we should only include posters to make it fit with the other season posters. I also think that is the TRT Ertugrul by PTV thumbnail which is pretty irrelevant for English Wikipedia. That image was also pretty unclear to me as well. Please don't add it again. Thank you. Limorina (talk) 10:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Let S4 poster be as it is. I've uploaded another DE S1 image. But what does that text mean on S4? Thank you. Empire AS ^Talk! 10:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Empire AS, it means 'Every Wednesday at 8.00 on TRT 1'. Limorina (talk) 10:48, 28 December 2020 (UTC)