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SDJR Diagram

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Fine work with the above - the new version is much clearer. However I seem to have lengthened it again by putting a spacer in to move the Gartell Light Railway away from the Exeter line. This is something that's been on my mind for a while and nothing to do with anything you've done. If you don't think it a good idea just say. Britmax 16:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Actually, that's a good idea. It is some distance from the Exeter line. David Bailey 17:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

SDJR Diagram: Motorway

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The SDJR branch line to Bridgwater North was not bridged by the M5 Motorway, the path of the railway was severed. I will check on the Highbridge branch.Pyrotec 18:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

The problem is that I wanted to add a geographical reference, but there wasn't an icon that I could use except the motorway bridge one. I'll change it to use the interruption icon instead (like we do for Gartel Light Railway). David Bailey (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
OK, I see that you have done it. The previous way looked better, apart from my pedantic concerns. Two thoughts, we could make a new icon, by say removing the two parapets from the existing motorway bridge symbol and rename it; work is underway on floating icons Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#Composite icons, so it might to possible float a motorway over a railway and not use a bridge.Pyrotec (talk) 15:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
This is a tricky one isn't it! A new icon would be useful, but I'm not currently involved in the project to create railway icons for Wikipedia. In order to edit the bridge icon, you'd need the to go back to the original SVG file, so that any adjoining icons matched up perfectly. The floating icons system sounds like a good idea but could add a level of complexity to the BS templates that would make them difficult for average Wikipedia users to edit. If you feel the original bridge icons work better than the interruption icons, feel free to roll back. David Bailey (talk) 16:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

SDJR Distances

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The 1910 Bradshaw gives distances only in quarter miles. I don't know whether you converted the other distances on the diagram from these units, or found somewhere where distances were given in km. Anyway, on the basis that I'm now away for a couple of days and you're the one likely to bring some consistency to this, here are the distances as given:

  • Burnham to Highbridge 1.75 mi (2.816352 km)
  • Edington to Cossington 2.75 mi (4.425696 km)
  • Cossington to Bridgwater North 4.25 mi (6.839712 km)
  • Glastonbury to Polsham 3 mi (4.828032 km)
  • Polsham to Wells 2.5 mi (4.02336 km)
  • Bailey Gate to Wimborne 5 mi (8.04672 km)

BTW, the 1910 timetable suggests that the Bridgwater line rather than the Highbridge was regarded as the mainline at Edington at the time, though I don't think this was the case earlier or later. Johnlp 21:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Johnlp. I'll pop them on the article soon. David Bailey 16:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Avon Riverside

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In case you're not watching the page, please see Talk:Avon_Riverside_railway_station. Cheers miag (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I have replied on the page. David Bailey (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Mangotsfield and Bath Branch Line

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Thank you for creating this "missing link": it's the line I grew up next to, and I still have the Weston signalbox nameplate in my loft (bought for £1 in about 1968!). I've added a little bit, plus a picture of Weston I took a couple of months ago.

I noticed on the diagram that you had the distance between Mangotsfield and Bath as 18.35km, and I think that's a bit far. My 1910 Bradshaw puts it at 10 miles and has the other distances in miles as follows:

  • Mangotsfield to Warmley 1.25 mi (2.01168 km)
  • Warmley to Bitton 2.25 mi (3.621024 km)
  • Bitton to Kelston 2.25 mi (3.621024 km)
  • Kelston to Weston 3.25 mi (5.230368 km)
  • Weston to Bath QS 1.0 mi (1.609344 km)

It also has train times, typically, for a stopping train (several didn't bother with Kelston and Weston) as:

  • Mangotsfield to Warmley 4 min
  • Warmley to Bitton 5 min
  • Bitton to Kelston 5 min
  • Kelston to Weston 6 min
  • Weston to Bath QS 4 min

Oldland Common wasn't open at this stage: somewhere I have a 1948 Bradshaw and I'll see if I can find it today to see what difference that made. Johnlp (talk) 08:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

You caught me! I was using the distances of nearby roads for reference, not the line itself <slaps own wrist!>. Thanks for the new distances and timings. I have added them to the diagram, giving us a total journey of 16.09 km in 23 minutes. I live just behind Green Park Station and have loved steam railways since my first trip on the North Norfolk Railway when I was 8. I wish steam was still running on our local line today. David Bailey (talk) 15:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well done. I'm not sure enough of my maths to do the diagram job myself... though I do make the total journey time 24 minutes, not 23 (six between Kelston and Weston, not five)! Can't see the 1948 Bradshaw anywhere and suspect it may have perished in one of the periodic purges of clutter that I'm prone to. BTW, I hope you don't mind but I did a small amend to one of your other diagrams to add the third station at Wells (the original East Somerset one). Now that was a daft arrangement! Johnlp (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but I couldn't do it with you and your collection of railway books! The diagrams aren't really mine, they're everyone's! ...after all, Wikipedia is open to all. I saw the new station you added, but am wondering if we should label it "Wells (East Somerset)", rather than the unbracketed version? It might add some consistency to other named stations with similar geographical markers. What do you think? David Bailey (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Not sure about that: the "East Somerset" bit isn't really a geographical marker in the same way that Priory Road and Tucker Street are. At the time the station was open, it would have been called just "Wells", as would the other two stations on their respective lines. And it closed at the point when the three were joined up (the building becoming a cheese depot, which is rather nice).
Anyway, I have now found a 1965 BR Western Region timetable which gives some new timings for the Mangotsfield-Bath line. There's quite a bit of wobble in the timings, in that Mangotsfield to Warmley takes anything from two to five minutes. Oldland Common is then consistently four minutes on from Warmley, and then it's usually three minutes (but sometimes four) on to Bitton. Bitton to Bath is regularly 10 minutes (Kelston and Weston being shut by this time). So the whole journey in 1965 is at best 19 and at worst 21 minutes (the early morning train that took five minutes to get from Mangotsfield to Warmley then caught up a bit of time by not stopping at Bitton!) Not sure this helps! Johnlp (talk) 16:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Why can't things be simple with British Rail timetables??? I think the best way to do this is to imagine a train that stops at every single station on the line (not counting Avon Riverside, as that only opened in 2004), and to work out how long it takes to get between each station, accelerating, braking and stopping included. You might have to build this information up from multiple timetables, but it will give a good idea of journey times to the average Wikipedia reader (Just like the SDJR article). You could then note the faster direct services and their journey times in the article itself. David Bailey (talk) 16:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hanako Oku

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I am not removing anything. I'm in the middle of writing this article from scratch. David Bailey (talk) 15:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I'm guessing that they got removed when I pasted in (overwrote) the page with my edits while doing a merge. Sorry. It looks as though the article has survived the deletion peer review... Yay! David Bailey (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

List of Telepathy Shōjo Ran episodes

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Salutations!!! Ever since you started adding Telepathy Shoujo Ran episode summaries, I have taken it upon myself to keep adding summaries and I really enjoy it. I have also taken on the project of defining the minor characters in each Telepathy Shoujo Ran episode in an attempt to avoid writing episode synopses that are too long . . . unfortunately, my efforts were not enough for Juhachi. Although he left his mark on the List_of_Telepathy_Shōjo_Ran_episodes, what I find really anguishing is here which is where I was adding the adversaries and minor characters. Now that I think about it, I probably could (if guided through it) create another article dedicated to the adversaries and minor characters of Telepathy Shoujo Ran so that the clutter on the main page is kept to a minimum.

In any case, I have already proposed this on Juhachi's talk page. I would like for you to guide me through creating another article for this purpose and linking it to the main article. Juhachi got on my case for what he thinks are verbose summaries for when I was doing the Zettai Karen Children episode list but seems to have backed off when I made multiple edits after posting a lengthy episode synopsis (i.e. Added Episode 38 synopsis -- first draft, Polished Episode 38 synopsis -- second draft, etc.) . . . perhaps this will work as well. I have a 12-15" monitor screen for my computer and I figure I can stay out of hot water with Juhachi if my text appears on that screen in its entirety without any scrolling. If creating another article dedicated to the Telepathy Shoujo Ran adversaries and minor characters succeeds, it will be a win-win for everybody (the addition of what I feel is important while maintaining a clear concise main article). Let me know on my talk page what you think of this . . . or better yet, the necessary instruction on creating a new article.

Dairi no Kenkyo (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hi Dairi. Sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your message. While I was impressed by the determination and effort that you placed into writing the episode synopsis for Telepathy Shōjo Ran, I was myself a bit concerned about the length of the individual entries, and the academic writing style used. Juhachi has made over 40,000 edits since he joined (compared to my 1,100), many of them in the area of anime and manga. This makes him one of the most experienced Wiki editors for these topics, and as such I tend to defer to him when making these sorts of calls.
While Wikipedia encourages its editors to Be Bold, it is sometimes necessary to listen to and accept criticism from those who have been around longer and have made more constructive contributions to the encyclopaedia over time. This is not to say that they are always right... if you believe that your way is better, you should feel free to discuss the issue on the relevant talk pages connected to the article. By doing so, you let other editors comment on the proposed changes and eventually come to a common accord, or a compromise. Remember that your work in the wiki is not lost forever, because each and ever change is stored in the database for future retrieval. If others feel that the article warrants longer synopsis, they may resurrect your writing.
With regard to your suggestion that creating a separate article for adversaries and minor characters would be a good idea, I think that this may be somewhat excessive, and that characters who only appear in one or two episodes should only be discussed briefly in the synopsis. There are of course some exceptions to this rule of thumb, mainly recurring classmates of Ran's and Midori's, or centrepiece villains such as Ohara-sensei, who do warrant a few paragraphs on the main article page. I'd recommend acquainting yourself with articles written for other long duration series (anything over 24 episodes), in order to see how previous authors have structured them, and how they decided what to include and what to leave out (You'll need to review the article histories and the talk pages to do this). I'd also recommend having a chat with G.A.S about article structure, as he does a lot of the reviews for the wikiproject, and is probably the best person to talk with about how much is too much. Best of luck with your future edits. David Bailey (talk) 16:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Sharpness Branch Line template

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Hi. I was wondering whether, as somewhat of a whizz with the line diagrams, you could figure out a way to add Lydney Junction to the diagram of the Sharpness Branch Line as the point where the line (strictly the Severn Bridge Railway at that point) actually joined the Gloucester to Newport line. I'm pretty hopeless with these diagrams: can sometimes make a small tweak or two, but nothing clever. The diagram can then also be used for any future article on the Severn Bridge Railway, and could even link into an eventual diagram on the Severn and Wye. Obviously no hurry, but it would just complete it. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 22:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yotsuba's age

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Man, I can't wait for volume 6 to be published in English (one more month!), where her actual age is revealed. Because maybe, just maybe, it'll cut down on the number of "corrections" ... —Quasirandom (talk) 23:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've lost track of how many times I've had to correct it! I can't believe that the last few editors completely ignored the hidden comment and the ref next to the age. David Bailey (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
Ditto. At least the rate of "corrections" has gone down since putting in the note as well as reference. But still. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

xBHF icon

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As you can see in the discussion page of ROUTE pictogram, we have to deal with that German user Axp for new icon creation which he usually hardly agrees with us if there's slightly something not according with his naming policy (or convention he prefers.) So to avoid the clash I will only create the xBHF icon on demand, rather than a full set for the sake of completion. Otherwise Axp will likely nominate the unused xBHF deletion on sight. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 13:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for that. So far I've only come across a need for the xBHF icon, but there may be a time when a xHST is required. If I find one, I'll know who to ask. In the mean time, I've put the current xBHF in place for Shillingstone railway station on Template:S&DJR RDT. David Bailey (talk) 14:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)Reply


Extract from a rail mapping project

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Is this roughly the correct line for the S&D Mainline?

http://osmapi06.shaunmcdonald.me.uk/browse/relation/2

This was mapped from a combination of scanned out of copyright OS mapping; Railway Clearing House Diagrams and other sources.

I've marked in a possible zero, although I'm sure I've seen some sources claim that the origin point for the distances was technically Bath- even though the zero was the S&D junction some distance from the station itself?

To view the data overlaid on an OSM mapnik render, Find an area at about zoom 16 in the OSM styl interface, and click the + button on the righthand side. There is an option to enable a 'Data' overlay which will also give access to a simple data browser.

(For various reasons, the rail-map dataset shown was developed independently from Wikipedia, and largely seperate from OpenStreetMap ( although some data is taken from OSM in the absence of other sources).

I thought you might be interested given the articles you've helped improve.

Of course if you have some suggestions for improving upon it, Let me know :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:32, 16 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

It looks pretty close. I mapped the entire route in Google Maps two years ago. You can view the results on the New S&D Railway website, where you can also download the KML files (available under a Creative Commons licence). David Bailey (talk) 21:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks :)
Another reason it was mapped independently (without using Google maps), is because Google's Map and aerial photos are not 'free' in the Creative Commons sense.
It's been held by some that because of the wording of Google's terms for it's geodata, it's not possible to release anything derived from Google Maps as Creative Commons, You might want to bear this in mind. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Bluebell diagram

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Re your reversion, should the line between the three-way junction and East Grinstead (Bluebell) station be marked as light red, as it's not currently in operation? Mjroots (talk) 11:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

As a general rule of thumb, if there's track present and a loco can use it, then I mark it on diagrams in red. The switches and track in this area appear to be ballasted and packed, from the photo's I've seen. I wouldn't like to run a big diesel engine on them just yet, but a small saddle-back steam engine should be OK. David Bailey (talk)
It now appears that the station is being used as a shunting siding for the diesel hauled spoil trains, dragging rubbish out from Imberhorne cutting. David Bailey (talk) 12:45, 26 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, I was pleased by your comment about the gallery at university; I'd suggested some time ago that it should be deleted. Is it about time to be bold? --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 17:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Bold is good! David Bailey (talk) 18:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Bath Spa

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Hi there,

I was going to question your decision to remove the quotations from around the word 'university' on the Bath Spa University Wikipedia page, but then I noticed that you work there and have a BA degree; I'm assuming you consider the place to be a valuable educational establishment.

I'm sure that the real university would be only too happy to offer you an honorary degree of equivalent value were you to give up your pretence.

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.128.88 (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

CONTl/CONTr

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Why are you carrying out edits like this? The arrow stems are supposed to join seamlessly to the rest of the RDT, with the arrowheads pointing outwards. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

They do! Your edit did this: arrows.jpg. Are you sure you're not viewing a cached older version of the images?   and   were updated today to point in the correct directions (strange as it seems, CONTl should point to the right and CONTr should point to the left). David Bailey (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
They are not showing correctly on my computer either, what did you change? I don't think I have visited then recently to store anything in cache. Britmax (talk) 19:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
What direction is this arrow   pointing for you? I see it point to the left. David Bailey (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
It points to the right. Britmax (talk) 19:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
(edit conflict) Er, to the right. I was under the impression that Chrisbot (talk · contribs) was changing these as and when; see Wikipedia:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms/straight tracks#Continuation. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
It looks like a change to those images is being pushed through today. We should probably leave this for 24 hours until the caches update and we are all seeing the same thing. David Bailey (talk) 19:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Fine, give that a try. Britmax (talk) 19:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

The arrows have reversed as you thought they would. Sorry to doubt you but I've not run across this problem before. Britmax (talk) 20:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
No worries! This left/right problem does occasionally rear it's head as the icon creators argue about naming conventions. It usually sorts itself out after 24 hours. David Bailey (talk) 09:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Is there a formal, coordinated action to fix up the hundreds of affected RDTs? See Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms#The CHRISBOT ate my icons…. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:21, 11 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Not that I'm aware of. David Bailey (talk) 16:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

End of year awards

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The Anime and Manga BarnSakura Award
I award you this BarnSakura in recondition of your contributions to anime and manga articles during 2010 and because everyone deserves a little recondition every once in a while. ;) —Farix (t | c) 02:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Farix! That's very sweet of you. David Bailey (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

S&DJR RDT

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I'm going to have to look up any discussion as to when to use the BHF and HST icons. Your way of doing it seems more logical in a way than saving BHF for really major stations, as you wouldn't get much use out of it then. I was replacing BHF with HST as many of the diagrams were written when only BHF was available for use. As an aside, an educated man such as yourself should say "unstaffed" unless quoting Shakespeare, yes? Britmax (talk) 15:53, 19 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure that there was ever a hard-and-fast rule for when BHF and HST icons should be used, but I've seen plenty of examples where the staffed/unstaffed argument was used... so I followed suit. I think it's the most logical usage for these diagrams. I mark major station with bold text. As for the wording, the use of unstaffed is probably correct, as it refers to "without workers", whereas unmanned refers to "not operated by a person or a crew", which would be more appropriate for a vehicle than for a station. The Shakespearean usage is probably a more painful interpretation, akin to castration! David Bailey (talk) 11:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Reading over previous discussions, the railway BSicons originated from a German Wikipedia project and the descriptions used at commons:Commons:Icons for railway descriptions support the halt/station usage convention. David Bailey (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

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File:BSicon exSTRl+1.svg

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I've have moved your file to commons. All the railway and waterway icons are located there - they are used a lot by the German Wikipedia, who cannot use them if located on en-wiki (that's the reason for the odd names - the Germans started the system).  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for letting me know about the move. David Bailey (talk) 11:58, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Potential edit warring in When Marnie Was There

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Hello, you're invited and express your views on Talk:When Marnie Was There#Edits reverted without adding summary. Jotamide (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

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