On 2 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sviatohirsk Lavra, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
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Please allow me to add my thanks to you for this article. I lived near Oakbrook for many years and never knew such a historic property existed so close. Thanks for the great work!--Evabd18:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Ah, good to see that. No, nothing more at present other than the Romanian equivalent, but I will keep an eye out. One thing we could do is go through articles on Orthodox monasteries and, if we find reference to a "founder" or "donor" or something along those lines, and if appropriate of course, replace with ktitor. Biruitorul (talk) 02:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you very much for your cleanup of the Template:Inner North-Eastern Carpathians. I do not by any means consider it ready, as we need thorough attention from users of all countries there to make sure we don't mislead the reader. If you think of any other lines except the ones that exist now (History, Geography, Counties, Culture, etc), please do add. I know little about how templates are structured on wikipedia (this is my second, and the first is still in project space :-) ), and surely would like this to be in line with the general criteria.
All links I put were with the sole aim in mind to have less red and more blue, so there is still lots of work to do, and new articles to start. For example some of red links exist as articles in other wikipedias (the Romanian one contains about the adm div of Romania before the present one, for example). So, thank you very much for your time and help - I don't know if this subject is very interestinng to you.
As you can see, there should a priori be 10 more templates :-) "Razasholsya" :-) I maybe can find reliable info on some of them, but for the others ... for example the one about the Carpathians in Poland ... I know nothing. So, if you see users intrested in Carpathians, please don't hesitate to tell them that they are more than welcome to create and expand the templates. Last but not least, I must credit Biruitorul with the idea (last fall) of making a template for Maramuresh-Zakarpattia and with providing the starting sourse. I did nothing but restructured it.:Dc7623:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome :) I will see what I can add to the template that is missing, and perhaps will help out with creating the redlinked articles in the template.. Best, —dima/s-ko/05:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. Recently I've been including the Soviet-era First Secretaries and Prime Ministers in the republics' navigational templates. I've now reached the Slavic republics, which are among the more challenging. Let's discuss Ukraine.
First, Template:Presidents of Ukraine. Before tackling the issue of including UkSSR (I see the note that says not to), let's look at the problems this template currently has. In the uk.wiki version, Skoropadsky (by the way, he deserves a longer article on en.wiki) succeeds Hrushevskyi; in en.wiki, Vynnychenko comes right after him. Second, uk.wiki lists the УНР as having ended in 1921, en.wiki (somehwat bizarrely) as 1926, and the en.wiki article on УНР as 1919. Third, uk.wiki says that the Government in Exile began in 1920; en.wiki, 1926. Fourth, Jaroslav Stecko, who doesn't even have an en.wiki article, has a line to himself in the uk.wiki article. You know the history much better than I do - if you can, please try to make the two templates conform.
Personally, I think including the General Secretaries would make for a neat way of presenting all of Ukraine's leaders since WWI, but if you object, I'll gladly make a separate one, just for the UkSSR.
How do we approach Template:Prime Ministers of Ukraine? Right now we have them back to 1990. Shall I include the Soviet ones too, or would you prefer another solution? And what about the independent Ukraines - ЗУНР, at least, had Prime Ministers of its own.
It's a delicate project; I hope we can do it well. Biruitorul06:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Its good that you started to work on these templates.
Ukrainian Wikipedia is somewhat wrong in including Pavlo Skoropadsky into the Ukrainian National/People's Republic, because he was against the UPR. Skoropadsky set up the Hetmanate, a different government. Perhaps we can include Skoropadsky, but under a new section like Hetmanate.
Writing that the UPR ended in 1926 was my mistake; it most likely did end in around 1920 (when it became UPR in-exile). My source comes from Subtelny, Orest (2000). Ukraine: A History, who writes: the majority of East Ukrainian émigrés left their homeland in the fall of 1920, when the Ukrainian National Republic (UNR) retreated into Poland.
Yaroslav Stetsko could be added to the template but under a section like the Ukrainian Independant Goverment.
I think it would be alright to include the "Chairmen of Presidium of Supreme Soviet of Ukrainian SSR" into the President template, but we should probably leave a section for notes at the bottom of the template (removing the one at the top), very briefly explaining thier titles... so as to not mislead anyone in thinking that their title was President when the were "Chairemen... " What do you think, or should we just expand the note at the top?
During the Soviet years, the now called Prime Ministers were called "Chairmen of the Council of Ministers." But I think we could include the Ukrainian SSR Chairmen of the Council of Ministers into Template:Prime Ministers of Ukraine. I think that this Ukrainian Government site names all of the Chairmen of the Council of Ministers (if I am not mistaken).
Thank you, DDima, for your very constructive suggestions. For now, let's stick to discussing the Presidents, and worry about the PMs a little later. I don't think it's necessary to switch over to the second model; the first is good enough for me at least. If you look at what I did for (eg) Georgia or Lithuania, you'll see I put in the titles within the text - no footnote. (But we can still have one note for Petliura.) Two points, though: a)didn't the SSR start in 1917, not 1938? And b, this is more complicated, but I personally would rather have the title be "Leaders of Ukraine" and put in the First Secretaries (big names like Kaganovich and Khrushchev) rather than the Presidium Chairs, who had no real power. True, "Leaders" is somewhat of a vague concept, but I think people would rather know who was really in charge than who was de jure in charge. If you object, I won't insist, but I do think it makes more sense that way. Biruitorul23:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Totally agree. There is an interesting caveat that in 30s the second secretary sent from Moscow to "supervise" the local first secretary could actually have more real power. Postyshev (2nd) and Kosior (1st) is a notable example. But I think we should skip this peculiar fact for the purpose of the tl. Going with party secretaries rather than chairmen of presidium is certainly right. --Irpen06:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, the first version is best.. The Ukrainian SSR did start in 1917, but I just went by what people we have at Verkhovna Rada#Chairmen and they start from 1938. Like you said, we should rather put the people who were in charge in the template (like Leaders of the Communist Party of the Ukrainian SSR). I agree with you by making Leaders of Ukraine the title.. And since we are making a "Leaders of Ukraine" temp. it would be good to create a List of leaders of Ukraine (including all: Kievan Rus', Halych, ect.), which I will try to do soon. —dima/s-ko/00:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I agree that a leaders' list would be good, and also something more on the hetmans - is that what this is? Anyway, I went ahead and made the changes we discussed to the template. If you see any problems, by all means correct them. One final question: did Petlura hold any actual office in 1920-26? Livytskyi was the first President in Exile; did Petlura's political role end in 1920?
As for the Prime Ministers - we can discuss in the coming days, but here's the main issue. The Soviet period is pretty clear - Rakovsky (1920) through Fokin (1991). But for the independent Ukraines it's a little more difficult. We have something here, but if you can shed any more light on the subject, that would be good. Biruitorul02:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
No the link you showed is for the Skoropadsky Government. I have created a separate but similar Template:Hetmans of Ukraine some time ago, but still have to correct it and implement it.. I do not know when Petliura's political role ended.. but I think that it continued until near his death (I may be very wrong)... With the link you gave above, it says that Petliura was a "president in exhile". Do you think we should add Petliura as a president in exile in addition to regular president of UPR?
I will try and see what I can find out/do about the independant Ukrainian "Prime Ministers," but right now I do not know much more than you do on the subject. —dima/s-ko/02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I'm not really sure either, but I did ask Irpen to come take a look. I'll do something about the Prime Ministers within a day or two, unless you do it first. Biruitorul03:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Petliura lost any real power in Ukraine in the end of 1919, when he fled to exile to the Polish controlled territory with a small contingent of loyal to him forces. Formally, he still claimed to be the lawful leader of the UPR. This claim may have been questionable since he came to power by a coup rather than an election and in the original UPR his party showing in the elections was rather weak but nobody bothered to challenge him since people who could have laid a more lawful claim to represent UPR (overthrown Hrushevsky and Vynnychenko) were not interested in dealing with Petliura and no one seriously saw UPR as anything but a a state on the paper at the time except Poles who wanted to give their invasion into Ukraine a clout of legitimacy and signed the document with Petliura that allowed to represent their 1920 invasion as a legit allied PL-UA operation.
So, from end-1919 Petliura was in fact in exile. In 1920 Poles made a peace in Riga with the Soviet Russia and Soviet Ukraine (that cosigned it separately) thus breaking their treaty with fictitious UPR and de-facto recognizing the Soviet Ukraine instead. So, after that Petliura could and did claim that he is still exiled leader of Ukraine but it mattered even less than in early 1920 when he had a real (even small) army under his (even nominal) control.
This is all from a top of my head. Would need to check the book if we are to use it but I am pretty sure about what I wrote. --Irpen06:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. That's quite informative. Once we've double-checked, let's remember to address this in the template. Of course, we may need to elide a little, since templates need to be succinct and the history here is very dense, but the main point is to cover 1919/20-26, because it currently implies that Livytskyi was in charge of the gov't in exile starting in 1920, which is inaccurate. (Maybe we could put 1926-1992 for the gov't in exile, because - correct me if I'm wrong - until 1926 it was just Petliura on his own, whereas it acquired a more formal structure after his assassination.) Also, should we not say that the УНР ended in 1919, not 1920? Biruitorul07:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ok, here is Petlura's entry in the EoU. The source is rather POVish and tendentious by the selection of facts they choose to mention (or omit), see here, here and User_talk:Faustian#Numbers, but also generally reliable on dates and numbers it choose to give. I think we should not speak of UPR after 1920 in the general template. The UPR article may elaborate, though, about certain governments in exile that claimed to represent it longer. --Irpen07:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, I've gone ahead and added what Prime Ministers I could. I don't think either template is quite complete - and the Petliura issue remains - but they're better than before, and we can go fix them once we find out more information. Thank you again for your help! Biruitorul02:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, there is WP:RUS which is currently used for transliterating names from Russian into English... Mírnyj átam as you put, is not a very commonly used transliteration system, and somewhat incorrect: there should be an atom not atam. According to WP:RUS, Russian "мирный атом" should be transliterated as mirny atom. Hope that clears it up, —dima/s-ko/17:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, it is really someone's preference on how to pronounce "мирный атом". Some pronounce it atam others — atom, so there is no wrong way to pronounce it.. But transliteration should be only a change in writing systems, not including the pronounciation of the word. —dima/s-ko/20:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Is there really any point on having a Ukrainian in the lead? What do you think? Also would it make more sense to use the old Russian spelling? If you don't like my trial version revert it...Speaking of which, you might like this resource [1] --Kuban Cossack00:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
I don't know, but we do have the current name of the city which were called differently before, like Lwów (now Lviv), so we could add it back, or perhaps someone else will do it... Not a bad idea of having the old Russian spelling, as it was the name of the cities/towns at the time. Thanks for the link, it looks useful for listing all of the localities in the oblast right now. —dima/s-ko/18:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
The difference is that by continuity the city has now found itself in Ukraine...and thus it itself should include the link to the modern spelling. On the other hand East Prussia seems to have a Russian spelling in the lead, but then again we must remember that it was is a geographical region, whereas the governorate is hardly anything more than a subdivision unit. In any case there is certainly no point to include it in the template heading. --Kuban Cossack22:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I agree. The template should have English name and the name of governorate at the time, in that case Черниговская губернiя. —dima/s-ko/22:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well I just finished rewritting Yekaterinoslav Guberniya. Check out this source here...Will you be able to draw a map of modern Ukraine with the old governorate borders (at 1900 and 1800 and before if necessary). In addition take a look here read down past the statute of the UkSSR, it shows the evolution of the republic wrt regions, including our governorates - A useful reference for future articles. --Kuban Cossack22:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
It looks good. I don't know if I will be able to draw the map, because the only program I have is MS Paint and that is not so good for drawing.. Perhaps we can ask someone else to do it, but having a map of old historical oblasts/governorates/regions would be very helpful... —dima/s-ko/23:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Dnepropetrovsk - deletion of street map and photos what you call "ugly houses"
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Dima - have you ever been to Dnepropetrovsk? Don't you think that there should be pictures of normal apartment buildings? Or should it only show photos of apartment buildings for the very rich?
Maybe we should show only a fantasy version of Dnepropetrovsk - one with clean air, houses for millionaires, with well-repaired streets, and great public transport. In real life it takes someone who lives in Gladkova Street an hour to get by minibus to city centre during peak periods. (The journey is less than 10 minutes by taxi mid-morning.)
Also - don't you think that it is useful to be able to find a street map? Actually street maps are rather more useful that local government websites. When I looked in 2004, it was absolutely impossible to find a street map using Google - I just got adverts from travel companies. Unless Wikipedia helps people to find street map URLs, the easiest way to find them is to buy a paper map at a market stall in Dnepropetrovsk!
--Toddy105:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
No I have not. I have lived only in Kiev in Ukraine. I dont't believe that we should show these apartment buildings.. Why uglyfy the article with old houses when words can do just about the same? If we decide to write an "architecture" section for the city, then perhaps we can write about what are the housing conditions, including the old and the new. I know that these "ugly houses" are commonly seen throught the city, and probably in most cities in the former Soviet Union..
Yes, the transport does take a lot of time, but look at what we have done at Kiev#Local transportation section... just included some text describing the conditions of transport, no images:
...while the other kinds of public transport are not that well maintained. In particular, the public bus service fails to maintain its schedule. Public electric trolleybus and tram lines are more reliable, but are also technically obsolete and underfunded.
I agree, it is useful to have a streetmap.. I only removed it from the infobox, which should only contain either "official link" or something like Verkhovna Rada link... If one wants to see more links, they can scroll down to the "External links" section instead. BTW, I would suggest that you upload your images to Wikimedia Commons so that other language projects can use your images. —dima/s-ko/02:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Dima Thank you for your reply. I have been editting and uploading photos showing the architecture of the city, and when I have a good selection, I will create an architecture section.--Toddy105:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi again. Someone proposed that the World Heritage template be merged with the protected area template. In any case, a user is complaining about the lack of use of the World Heritage template. See this article for reference. Joey8012:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
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At the risk of sounding incredibly boring and pedantic, I would like to explain this edit of mine. Both Teatralna stations, I imagine, are still called "Teatralnaya" by the Russian-speaking populace. Hence, "Teatralnaya metro station" may refer to "Teatralna metro station", which is why I upgraded "Teatralna" from the "see also" section to a full entry. The opposite, however, is not true—it is unlikely that any of the Teatralnaya metro stations in Russia would be called "Teatralna", so "Teatralnaya metro station" should remain a "see also" on the Teatralna disambiguation page. Are you asleep yet? :)) Anyway, just wanted to clarify if my reasoning wasn't clear. Don't know if I succeeded :) Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
I agree with including former symbols, but just not in the infobox, as they are no longer official insignia.. My edit summary was aimed towards anon user:150.254.240.17's edit in which s/he changed the official insignia to former red-white-red flag and Pahonia coa in the infobox. So I should have said please do not ... to the infobox instead of article. BTW nice job on the Belarus article, hope you can get it to FA.. —dima/s-ko/19:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
But you coded nothing there, unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, you're not obliged to do anything or to co-operate with me. But I was counting on your practical help, not only on opinion.AlexPU20:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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You have been replacing Image:Galician ssr-flag.png with this image, and adding the {{SupercededSVG}} template on the image page, but this image is a PNG image and hence not a vector image at all. Do you have an SVG available to upload instead? Cheers, Stannered19:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, but when I just uploaded the .svg version, this is what turned out: just red field without and lettering.. Do you know how to fix it? —dima/s-ko/19:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Convert the text to paths/curves (terminology depends on your program), or switch to a font that is supported by the Wikimedia servers. Stannered19:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi!
I'm a Ukrainian too, living partly in the Lviv area, Oslo, Norway and in Western France. As I can understand it, you may prefer to communicate in English.
I have added remarks to the Talk:Ukrainian Navy page. According to previous experience, this leads to nothing: no one ever answers — and when you act directly, a sniper immediately reacts, saying you should've asked first in the Talk Page…
What should I do about loading corrected flags? And, practically, how do we load images in the Wikicommons and in the article pages?
Thanks for taking some time to answer me.
PS: As a reporter, I live actually most of the times outside what are barely family and night stays. Furthermore, I suffer from a polymyositis and have to spend quite a lot of time in a hospital in Norway.
I'm also really busy in real life, about 48 hours a day… It may happen that it takes some time for me to read your message or answer any question.
Hi. I am originally from Kiev, but now live in Chicago. Answering your question: to upload on Wikicommons, you should get yourself an account and follow the same procedure as is here on Wikipedia:
Add a description;
licence (most especially, because on Commons they are more strict about copyrights then on Wikipedia);
and the source of the image (another major requirement for images).
To add an image into an article place [[Image:|thumb|200px|Description.]]. Include the image name (which would be something like Testimage.jpg, etc); the size you want the image to be in pixels (I would suggest using within the range of 200-300px) and the image's description. —dima/s-ko/21:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I was looking for references at Dmitry Litvinov, and found this: [2]. Unfortunately, I don't speak Russian. Do you think you could have a look to check it's the same person (and maybe add details to the article from it)? Circeus14:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, the Litvinov on the link you provided me with is the same Litvinov as in the Wiki article. I will see what I can add to the article with the info on the website... Cheers, —dima/s-ko/21:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I stole your Orange Revolution userbox. I have stepfamily in Kiev (and visited them five years ago!), and I've been studying Ukraine and...etc. Thanks again. Zweifel08:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. I am currently working on redirects that begin with M. I noticed that Template:Infobox City Ukraine currently links a large number of pages to M², which is a disambiguation page. Generally, it would be more appropriate and more useful to link directly to the article of interest (presumably square metre or square kilometre in this case) and not to the disambiguation page. I would attempt to fix the problem myself except that the code for the template looks rather complicated. Since you appear to be the primary author of the template, could you please fix the disambiguation problem? Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter20:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome. Actually based on past experience, it is more likely that more people will join the project because it is on the WikiProject Council page, since people will see it on the page, instead of just finding it accidentally in some WikiProject list.. —dima/talk/22:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, looking at statistics, Ukraine is largest if not to count Russia.. Ukraine is larger than France on the European Continent itself... but if to count total French land area in the world (French Guiana, ect.) than it is smaller. —dima/talk/16:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
No it was the formulation that I mistook, and Russia is part of Europe regardless...and the largest European country...even if you take only its European land.--Kuban Cossack18:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, would you help our be: with sysops elections [3], which have to be repeated because of procedural problems in the previous elections? Would you fill the position of the outside/neutral election officer for us (maintaining vote page, counting votes, you know this better than me)? Yury Tarasievich12:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
На белорусской википедии списки выборщиков утверждены и полиси принята. Не пора ли начать выборы? Можно не дожидаться решения Меты о временном админстве, если нужно, вандалов можно будет откатить. --62.68.146.9612:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
One more issue, please: per the today's discussion on the vote page, please strike out the votes of one user, who hadn't the required edits minimum. Also, the candidates who didn't confirm their participation, should be marked appropriately, in some clearly distinguishable manner (strike-out?). Then, I think, it will be possible to proceed with the Meta's request. Yury Tarasievich13:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, have to trouble you again with this. There are problems still with your request and with the elections page summary. There are couple of things you missed: there's still unstricken vote of user:Pauk (for me), also, you didn't update the votes counts.
Also, I think it'd be better to have the short English summary of the people who are supposed to get the admin privileges, who weren't disqualified, with the updated votes count etc. etc. --- at the bottom of the elections page, "summing it up", and the Meta request should point to its section, not to the complete voting page. Thanks! Yury Tarasievich07:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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The article and the legend overlapped because of the wrong width entered, couldn't you see? Bestlyriccollection
No, I use Mozilla Firefox, and I didn't see any overlapping.. Now there is just a big white space between the text and the infobox. Perhaps we should just remove the whole thing, perhaps then it will be alright for all.. —dima/talk/20:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
I use firefox too. Width 200 clearly leaves the box and text overlapping. maybe it's your textsize? Bestlyriccollection
Now I've left it at 420, it should look fine to both of us. Even with miniature fontsize, there won't be a big gap. Cheers. Bestlyriccollection
Well, there still is a gap, but it isn't that major. Do you think that removing the
It's not what to add, it's what to remove, maybe. I personally think the black outline looks a little funky, so, if you want, I can remove it altogether. Stuff like that. :-) — Alex(T|C|E)09:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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It's obvious this article was lacking sources, but the notability guidelines for actors, sportsmen and musicians state state that winning awards like Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences Award (especially when it's not one but 3 times) is notable. If you come across something like this again, please consider asking for sources instead of deletion. - Mgm|(talk)08:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi. You said that Delatyn is in the Nadvirnianskyi Raion, but that isn't a Raion listed at Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast#Subdivisions. Can you please update Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast and the related template with any missing Raions. Also, I created a page at the Ukrainian Wikipedia for Делатин, but it was moved to Делятин. Is it ok to update the name to the latter? I don't know Ukrainian. — Reinyday, 03:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I don't know why it wasn't listed there. Ukrainian Wikipedia lists it, perhaps we just missed it? Sure, I moved the name on ukwiki, and looked at Google results, and Делятин defenetly comes up with more hits than Делатин, and thats the way Ukrainian parliament lists it too. —dima/talk/03:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast#Subdivisions says "The Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast is administratively subdivided into 14 raions..." but now there are 15. — Reinyday, 03:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I just checked Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast official website, and they listed 14 raions too. We were just missing one raion in the table on the article and the template.. I will remove the Bolekhivskyi Raion, which is not listed in the official website. Don't know why it appeared on ukwiki, when their article states 14 raions too.. —dima/talk/04:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for double checking! — Reinyday, 04:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Kazak! In responce to your edit summary: rv, within lang-uk and lang-ru scholarly transliteration is used. Actually, for Ukrainian articles (especially subdivision), we use the simplified Ukrainian National Translation system for transliterating Ukrainian languate names, as demonstrated in Wikipedia:Romanization of Ukrainian. —dima/talk/18:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
I understand that, but I was under the impression that we use the national system almost always for article titles and within the articles themselves. Within {{lang-uk}} and {{lang-ru}}, however, we use the scholarly system to most nearly approximate the original Cyrillic spelling. For example, in the article about Pyotr (Peter) Ilyich Tchaikovsky it refers to the composer by that spelling throughout the entire article and in the title, as that is the spelling by which he is known in English-speaking countries (and is the most understandable pronounciation-wise). Within {{lang-ru}}, however, his name is given as Pëtr Il'ič Čajkovskij because that is the scholarly transliteration- and closest Latin-alphabet approximation - of the Russian Пётр Ильич Чайковский. (I suggest we refrain from further reverts to the Shcholkine article until this dispute is resolved.) Cossack19:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
P.S. I have also copied this discussion to the article's talk page, feel free to respond there.
Well, we use the Ukrainian National System for almost all of the article titles, also within the articles, and in the {{lang-uk}}, but the lang-uk template includes apostrophies, ect. —dima/talk/04:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
If you add up the percentages allocated to political parties aboev 3% you will have the balance of up to 27%. This is the percentage of voters that have been disenfranchised and denied representation of their choice. (Some may have deliberatly decided not to vote for any candidate. The fact is that the 3% threshold voting system dienfranchised those voters that sdo not support major parties. Whats worst is that the allocation of number of seats is determined by scaling upo the percentage of votes ecah of the major parties has received. This is shown in the poll analysis table based on data I provided. If Ukraine considered and adopted a preferential voting system then supporters for minor parties/candidates would be able to cast an alternative preference vote to determine which party should represent them as opposed to the adoption of a fomula that excludes their vote. Citiation is not requiried as it is a fact. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UkraineToday (talk • contribs).
I set out to include the PVL stations under construction [4]. This of course forced me to make more changes, such that now the whole northeast section is actually more or less geographically accurate. (Stations' north south and east west positions wrt each other), but how accurate would you suggest I go? The whole Pechersky radius will distort the map if I attempt to standardise it, also the rivers are being problematic, all the gulfs in the north and such... Any suggestions?--Kuban Cossack17:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. We need to have a talk about Igor Sikorsky. Most publications I have read have put him as Russian/American. I think it is best to have these discussions at Igor Sikorsky talk page.
Yes, I too have seen that most publications put him as "Russian/American." The reason why I reverted was because I have seen him listed as "Ukrainian/American" just a week ago and then saw that your edit changed it to "Russian/American," so I reverted. Checking the history, an anonymous editor listed him as "Ukrainian/American." Versions before the anon's edit have stated a more-neutral version: ...was a pioneer of aviation who designed.... Perhaps we can put that instead? —dima/talk/23:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
I quess his ethnicity is really difficult to define. Until a proper explanation comes to the talk page about his ethnicity, we better go with your proposal. 88.113.159.23612:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I have fully protected both the Yuzhne/Yuzhny articles to prevent you two from revert warring over the page name. Please come to an agreement on the talk page and then you can request unprotection at WP:RFPP. I could have blocked both oof you for WP:3RR violations but I'd rather see you try to work it out. —dgiestc19:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your intervention in the matter. I just reverted the anon's edits as he was copy-pasting and not responding to my messages at his talk page, but I should have responded on the talk earlier inorder to prevent the edit war. —dima/talk/19:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Please don't include "cute" icons in your comment when suggesting to delete or keep certain templates and so forth. Such images have been suggested several times in the past, and the community doesn't appreciate them. Thanks. >Radiant<09:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Cute icons?? No, I just included them because it makes it easier to see comments in the afd's. But, if people don't like them, I won't include them anymore. —dima/talk/20:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Hi, sorry for the late responce.. I translated the article some time ago from the Ukrainian Wikipedia, and the article states in spite of commonly accepted opinions, this decree did not include.... So I don't know which version is right or not, the Ukrainian Wikipedia or Russian Wikisource.. —dima/talk/02:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I asked there why they wrote it. It seems to me that the error is in the Ukrainian Wikipedia (among other reasons since they themselves link to a text of the Ukaz that is identical to the one that's in the Russian Wikisource). Anyway, in the future you might consider writing in the edit summary that you're translating from a foreign Wikipedia when you do that. It is a custom we have on the Hebrew Wikipedia. It helps keeping track of such things, and gives the proper credit required by the GFDL license. The Transliterator • talk03:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
I will look around for more references on the Valuyevsky Ukaz and see what they write, but the Wikisource is probably right, as I have see the Ukrainian Wikipedia to have factual errors. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll put that I translated from foreign Wikipedia in the edit summary next time I translate an article. Cheers, —dima/talk/03:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I am afraid that the you reloaded resently, is still unacceptable. The borders of "Novorossia" shown there are clearly wrong. (It looks like the eastern border is nothing else as the modern border of Ukraine). Note that the original map was taken from a partizan site. And the author was not even aware that Lugansk and Donetsk are differen cities. It cannot be considered as a reliable source.--AndriyK13:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I have reverted your edit, because in 1880, there were NO ukrainians in Carpatho-Ruthenia. (No one said himself to be Ukrainian...) The majority of inhabitans called themselves "Rusyn", "Rus'kyj" or "Rusnak", which are translated into English as "Rusyns". In Europe Carpatho-Rusyns, Bieloruss and Ukrainians were called Ruthenians. That's why we should write Ruthenians / Rusyns.
Regards
--Rusyn19:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi. I just noticed it was you who'd created the infobox for Franko. Feel free to revert, but my rationale was that it seemed anachronistic. After all, he never lived under that flag, and never lived in an independent Ukraine. However, I'm not sure what the standard is in such cases, so if you have reason to revert, then please do so. Biruitorul05:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Thanks a lot for welcoming me! My username is probably misleading—I picked it mostly because I knew it wouldn’t be taken—and my enthusiasm about and interest in Russia and Ukraine (Ukraine, especially) is matched only by my ignorance about them. I try to keep up with what’s going on there, but the only book I’ve read that’s about one of them exclusively was Ukraine: A History. I won’t be any good for translation (I’m trying to do something about the fact that English is the only language I know) and while I can do Cyrillic transliteration up to a point, I’m sure there’s another Wikipedian who can do it far better. I can copy-edit fairly well, though, and have a decent bias detector. I’ll try to be a good Wikipedian, and thanks again. --Zaporozhian05:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I meant to get to it some time ago, but only started just now. This still much more information that can be added... would you like to help out? —dima/talk/20:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Saying Ukrainians (including Rusyns) can be though as insulting towards Rusyn people. If we write like that, it could be thought that Rusyns are part of Ukrainians. I think that writing Ukrainians and Rusyns and then adding a short lign saying, that Rusyns weren't counted as such during the census would be the best. That way, articles about Demographics in Zakarpattiya will satisfy the Neutral policy of Wikipedia. What do you think about that?
--Rusyn18:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it would be more neutral. I have recently re-structured and rewrote Zakarpattia Oblast, and have added a footenote, stating that Rusyns weren't counted as a separate nation... I think it is better this way.. BTW, do you want to help out with expanding the article? —dima/talk/18:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
В переписи, на самом деле, были записаны и русины (10183) и русинский язык (6725) [5] Просто в английской версии сайта ЦСУ эти данные не так просто найти. Я добавил эти данные в статью. Там нужно только правильно оформить ссылки. Кстати почему-то не виден текст из этого же абзаца Zakarpattia is home to approximately 14,000 ethnic Roma (otherwise known as Gypsies), the largest population of Roma in Ukraine. The first Hungarian College in Ukraine is in Berehovo, the II. Rákoczi Ferenc College. --Yakudza11:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I do that all the time :)) There are just some problems with my browser, so I prefer to save right away, rather than loose all my work (which has happened a couple of times).. —dima/talk/16:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
That used to happen with my email, I just copied the whole thing every few minutes to prevent it being lost if connection fails or browser dies. Now happily on broadband and Vista, everything is stable, but I still copy what I'm writing all the time, and strongly recommend that technique! +Hexagon1(t)09:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I don't really know how it works, but I think you should add your username in the information about the portal box...Rusyn17:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
There is a link to the box header under the news box, do you know what to do to remove it. There is also a link to the box footer under did you know box.Rusyn17:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Good article, I added some additions to it, but can we export a map from somewhere? Also should the template be the other way around (north to south)? Also where are the announcements on WP:SOVMETRO? --Kuban Cossack13:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, thanks for expanding it.. Well, we can use the Urbanrail map perhaps, but it's copyrighted.. Do you know if the owner(s) would allow use to use their images as {{attribution}}?
I don't mind the template being collapsible, but its look is ... crap. I got firefox and the line seems broken, I can barely make out the parts under construction and the parts not... Revert it, please. Kharkov Metro... if I only had more time on my hands (and considering I am nearing my 2nd anniversary of being a wikipedian) the whole WP:SOVMETRO would be finished by now. The maps is copyrighted, but I can always expand my one... also there is Mno's map that could be updated and improved. I don't know honestly, I have attempted to contact Urbanrail, but got no reply. Anyway as you might tell, my hands right now are full with two articles (one in particular) so if you want me back... then help out. --Kuban Cossack17:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Also how embarrassing do you find that for the length of the templates existence none of us realised that the extensions came out in the wrong sides of template wrt existing stations... it would have made one very intersting line...--Kuban Cossack18:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I will play around with the templates and see what I can do.. Well, I too tried to contact someone regarding use of materials (archunion.com.ua) and they never replied.. perhaps we never get through their anti-spam filters? Some of my other letters (non-buisiness) never got to their recipients as well..
Yeah, that is pretty embarrassing with the templates.. Anyway, I am travelling to Ukraine on Sunday, and will hopefully get some station shots.. will upload them if I get them. —dima/talk/03:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I will take care of all maps after I get out from school (less than two weeks). I'm planning on drawing my own SVG map, except it will have no background (transparent) instead of street names. — Alex(U|C|E)03:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
And I have a feeling that I will have a conflict with Kuban kazak about Russian being included in the article, and if he keeps adding Russian, I will keep removing it. I really have a strong point of view on this, and if he starts an edit war, the result will be one of us getting blocked. Ukraine is Ukraine, people should understand that! Ukraine is not Russia! Same arguments as before: this line is brand new, built during Ukraine's independence. — Alex(U|C|E)03:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for volunteering to do the map! I tried a couple of times, although am not too good at it.. Hopefully, the issue with the Russian name grow into an edit war.. How about we all try and get Kiev Metro to Good status and not waste time on name issues.. The article is good, but with some inline citations it will be much better.. —dima/talk/04:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think we need to start a Wikipedia policy on Ukrainian naming that everybody can vote on. I'll start on that in a couple of weeks (school). As for your images, feel free to ask me for help any time, I can fix the images you're having issues with. — Alex(U|C|E)04:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I fixed all of the SVG files you had in that category, they are as close to the original as I could make them, which means they might still contain typos and might have some inconsistency in typefaces. Other than that, they are fixed. — Alex(U|C|E)06:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
As for station shots, get me a list of the ones you haven't taken. I'm travelling to Ukraine this summer and I'll take a few photos myself. — Alex(U|C|E)06:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
By the way, the Podilsko-Voskresenska Line conflict escalated. Kuban kazak reported me to the admins, trying to get me blocked. — Alex(U|C|E)04:31, 10 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Hi, sorry that I didn't respond earlier, I am very busy around here.. I've been trying to take some photos of the metro, but there are too many people to take some empty shots, perhaps I'll try to take them at night? I will be uploading the photos (internet connection permitting) to the Commons. —dima/talk/05:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Sorry to bother you, but since you edited the article Russians in Ukraine, I was wondering if you have an opinion on the serious violation of the WP:POINT there[6]. I'd like to hear your opinion about it before I file it on the ANB. Thanks in advance. --Hillock6518:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Every infobox is objectionable and is better avoided. The former country infobox is one of the silliest of them all. The infobox used in Kievan Rus was a vehicle for petty nationalism: it featured a huge emblem of modern Kyiv (first adopted in the 18th century) and listed Ukrainian hryvnia as the currency of Rus' (the epithet "Kievan" was devised by Russian historians in the 19th century). In short, it is a pile of rude anachronisms. This facile approach to history brings Wikipedia into disrepute. --Ghirla-трёп-09:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
If an article is sourced it should be okay to use infoboxes. If the article is called "Kievan Rus" then what's wrong with including it in the infobox? In addition to that, the coat of arms is easy to remove, it shouldn't be a problem. Please don't imply this is all DDima's fault and assume good faith. — Alex(U|C|E)06:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Well, I'm done with the map. Please leave your comments and suggestions on how I can improve it on my talk page. I'll gradually be updating it to include a key and information about lines under construction. — Alex(U|C|E)14:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Hey, nice job! I think that it would be good to have the system's name, well legend (like you said), perhaps the metro logo too.. Also, what about adding the system's depots (like on Darnytsia..? —dima/talk/07:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sure... There's one problem though, it will probably cause a lot of chaos on Wikipedia. With the adoption of new passports, CabMin adopted a new transliteration system. I copied this text out of their document:
у пункті 5:
транслітерацію викласти в такій редакції:
“А — A І — I Т — T
Б — B Ї — І У — U
В — V Й — І Ф — F
Г — G К — K Х — KH
Ґ — G Л — L Ц — TS
Д — D М — M Ч — CH
Е — E Н — N Ш — SH
Є — IE О — O Щ — SHCH
Ж — ZH П — P Ь — еквівалент відсутній
З — Z Р — R Ю — IU
И — Y С — S Я — IA
’ (апостроф) — еквівалент відсутній”;
What do you think we should do? I'll read more about the "postanova". Will we have to move all the articles (e.g. Viktor Yushchenko → Viktor Iushchenko, Viktor Yanukovych → Viktor Ianukovych, etc...)? Hmm... — Alex(U|C|E)16:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
5. Написання відомостей у зоні візуальної перевірки
виконується українською мовою і через скісну лінію латинськими
літерами за відповідністю українському алфавіту:
А - A І - I Т - T
Б - B Ї - Yi, i У - U
В - V, W Й - Y, i Ф - F
Г - H, G К - K, C Х - KH
Ґ - G, H Л - L Ц - TS
Д - D М - M Ч - CH
Е - E Н - N Ш - SH
Є - Ye, ie О - O Щ - SHCH
Ж - ZH, J П - P Ь - '
З - Z Р - R Ю - Yu, iu
И - Y С - S Я - Ya, ia
______________
Примітка. На початку слова В інших
позиціях
Ye ie
Yi i
Y i
Yu iu
Ya ia
Will this change affect station names? We need to have a policy on Wikipedia for transliterating everything the same way. — Alex(U|C|E)17:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
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As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex(U|C|E)17:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, apparently Raul will make a sweep through on Sunday night US time so time is precious. I am putting up stuff to do as I see it on the House of Chimaeras talk page. cheers, Casliber (talk·contribs) 10:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've worked on FAs but kept to biology articles so far. I have an interest in Eastern Europe as my father's family came from Poland and Romania. I have not looked at architecture articles but just then started to look at Belton House to see how else this article can be embellished as it still seems a little bare, but then again maybe that's the state of the information (or maybe I am anglocentric). Incidentally I saw the metro stuff - I have begun researching my genealogy and my great great grandfather was apparently the stationmaster in Kiev... (I am in Australia and have never been to Ukraine but have visited Poland twice) cheers, Casliber (talk·contribs) 11:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I too looked at Belton House...:)) I usually stick to architectural articles and rarely go into biology and others.. But thanks for the great suggestions, IMO they helped the article out a lot.. —dima/talk/09:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I have proposed an award at the Ukraine Wikiproject - You appear to be a member of the project and I would like some feedback from you - thanks // Finns
Because i belive that you will agree with me that having the Normandi battle picture in the size of two, and not having a picture of the Stalingrad battle in a world war two image is absurd. M.V.E.i.11:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
Народна is much more common in modern usage, than Народня, see google test: 492,000 for Українська Народна Республіка and 512 for Українська Народня Республіка. Even the Ukrainian Wikipedia article uses Народа. Also please cheack [7].. —dima/talk/01:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
i'm agree with you, that народній is more common in modern usage than народний (however both народній and народний exist in the dictionaries). But УНР was in the past, they used народній, not народний. I've never said that it should be written народній everywhere . i just think, that it would be better with a native name of this country, just in the one place together with other versions like "Українська Народна Республіка", "Ukrainian People's Republic" etc, isn't it? --Riwnodennyk17:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
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NewrVers
Hello. I made a little refreshed image of New Russia, added two words. I dont know how to use WikiCommons so i ask you, could you upload this version to the images place? It just has 2 more clear names that make it easier to understand: Donbass and Crimea. M.V.E.i.21:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. I started a discussion on the Russians article talk page. Due to the fact that people as i see havent visited it for a long time, every opinion is important and will get attention. The discussion is important for the article. You can find the discussion here:-) Thank you. M.V.E.i.17:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
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I don't think Statue of the Republic is listed on the National Register of Historic Places or is designated a National Historic Landmark. I also checked and it appears that Mayslake Peabody Estate is on the National Register, but isn't a National Historic Landmark. I've removed those two categories from those articles. If something is a National Historic Landmark, it should be listed at the list of National Historic Landmarks at the National Park Service. Being listed as a National Historic Landmark automatically means the property goes onto the National Register of Historic Places, but not all properties on the National Register are National Historic Landmarks.
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I never saw this page whe it was on FAC, if I had it would have been a pleasure to support it. It is a beautiful page - well done. Giano11:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Great job on it so far! This would defenetly be FA material once we finish it up.. I will try to expand it some and reference it as well.. —dima/talk/20:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi,
I didn't mean to imply that the visual quality of the display was low; nor did I mean to disparage the effort that went into creating the map. But a map is a special, information intense image that, in this case, is designed to be read and understood.
It is not possible for the average reader to look at and understand (or 'interpret') the geographical information relating to second place results, without having the first place results in the same image. As an example, on the second place map, are we looking at the strength of the Party of Regions? or at their periphery? (If we had first place information in front of us, we would know. But we do not).
A few options that might enable this:
A system of main color and crosshatches (difficult, busy, ugly)
A system of pie charts in each district (difficult)
The first place map, with a small symbol in each district (perhaps a small, colored circle) indicating the second place party
An image that encompasses both maps, side by side. This might have the greatest appeal to geeky or wonky users, but would be harder to interpret for general readers.
Ok, I understand now.. You're right, the second place image wouldn't be useful to someone unless they had the first place image in front of them.. I kind of like your third option, but it might get confusing because we already use cirlces for cities [with more than one electoral district].. but I could try it... Cheers, —dima/talk/02:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I didn't restore it.. I just formated the image after its restoral.. I agree with you that if someone saw the second place map without the first-place map, it would be confusing to them. But if we place them into the article together, it would resolve the problem.. Otherwise I just linked the two images together in the image description page (like I did in description page here)... —dima/talk/01:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
But it remains impossible to view them together. The images in the article are not at a scale that can be read, and clicking on the images brings up one, not both. Jd271814:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
And now someone's enlarged the images on the page, and just enough that I think it works. Thank you. I do notice, however, that there is one district in the Zhitomir region (maybe Korosten'?) that appears to be colored for 1st place Tymoshenko and 2nd place Tymoshenko as well) Jd271810:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Виявив помилку: на зображенні, де перші місця, в Києві всі кружечки коричневі. А там, де другі місця, теж 5 коричневих кружечків. Виходить БЮТ зайняв і перші, і другі місця в тих округах?:) І ще помилка: подивився у словнику: оборона англійською пишеться через c: defence.--Ahonc (Talk) 18:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
2. There are articles about martial arts in Russian that need to be translated to English. After translated to English, they also need to be referenced and expanded (the demends on the English Wikipedia are higher). Those articles are: [8], [9], [10].
Hi, PocketMoon! Actually, I'm not Russian, I'm Ukrainian. Unfortunatly, I don't know anything on the subject, so I doubt I could help you out much.. You can try to contact some users at Russian porta.. Thanks, —dima/talk/20:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
ps I started with the 3rd degree, because I need to have enough of them for the future; barnstars are fun, but not as much as this stuff. Seriously, congrats.--Riurik(discuss)06:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. I'm sure you know the importance Orthodoxy places on the ktitor (Slavonic Ктитор, Greek Κτήτωρ, Romanian ctitor), but we make scant reference to this position here. I wonder if you have any religious works that deal with the subject. Ru.wiki does have an article, but it doesn't seem that great. Biruitorul06:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I don't. I see that en wiki doesn't have an article about it, perhaps we should start it? I can look around on the internet for more information for the article, but I don't have any with me.. Cheers, —dima/talk/02:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
No problem - I was just asking. There doesn't seem to be much in English on it, but if there's something in Russian, that would be good. I don't have much myself. It's not urgent, but I would eventually like to start writing ktitor and not an approximate term like "founder" when I write about churches. Biruitorul02:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I see that Irpen fixed the image description page. I guess that the dumb bot does not recognize the "template rationale" (a cheap way to include a rationale IMHO :)) —dima/talk/02:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Would you mind a somewhat unorthodox approach to the GA review of this article? I am a rookie reviewer looking to get started, and have made arrangements with experienced reviewer User:Malleus Fatuarum to start out with some joint reviews. I'd like us to start with this article, but I wanted to make sure you're okay with the concept first. Maralia00:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the delay in getting started; everyone in my house came down with a nasty cold, and the last couple days have been a dreary cycle of tissues and chicken noodle soup. We're on the mend now, so I should be back in action tomorrow. Maralia02:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, it says that " If you have any photograph requests of Ukraine (Kiev, Crimea, Bukovyna), I will be happy to provide them". Would you possibly have, or be able to get, a picture of a Baptist Church (for the Baptists in Ukraine article)? an image would really make the article looke good. Thanks, Ostap21:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I have tons of pictures of other buildings and churches that I took this summer in Ukraine, but unfortunatly I didn't take any pictures of any Baptist churches... I will look around the internet for some.. Sorry, —dima/talk/01:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
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1. Then there wasn't such a country Ukraine, not talking about Kiev as capital. It was Russian Empire. 2. Sikorsky himself always stated that he came from Russia, or was born in Russia. So in conclusion, it should be said he came from Kiev, Russian Empire, simply because then wasn't Ukraine and Kiev was simply considered Russian Empire. No Free Nickname Left11:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
No, i like the idea of having my name in red, it's unique in Wikipedia. I mean, even when someone writes from his IP it's in blue. It can bore to death! So i decided to keep it red. No Free Nickname Left23:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Replaceable fair use
Thanks for uploading Image:Map of UNR and DKR.jpg. I noticed the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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Congratulations on the above article, that's very concise, well referenced writing on a current event. I hope the disaster has not affected you in anyway, and my sympathies for those affected. SGGHspeak!23:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I just felt that this is a tragic disaster and needed to be covered on wiki (also when it is the second worst mining disaster in Ukraine).. —dima/talk/23:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Could you drop by my user page, and fix the front page "Awards" box? I was trying to make it be hidden by default, so that one would have to click on "show" for anything to drop out. I used the "hidden begin", but that did not work as I intended it to. If you/anyone-else-who-is reading-this, can fix it, I would be greatly obliged.--Riurik(discuss)07:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, with regards to your concern on the FAC, I am going by the Millennium of Russia, which was erected in 1862 to celebrate the millennium of Rurik's arrival to Novgorod, an event traditionally taken as a starting point of Russian history. How would you propose that I modify what is currently in the infobox? The arrival of Rurik to Novgorod preceded Kievan Rus by a couple of decades, when his successor, Oleg, moved down and conquered Kiev and moved the capital of Rus from Novgorod the Great to Kiev and, in doing so, founded the state of Kievan Rus. If I put the starting point of Russian history as Kievan Rus in the infobox then I will also have to put the Grand Duchy of Moscow, Tsardom of Russia, Russian Empire, Soviet Union, Russian Federation.--Miyokan (talk) 04:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I don't mind having them in there.. but I guess it would get kind of bulky.. Perhaps we could add a footnote (in the infobox itself) describing something like
1 The arrival of Rurik to Novgorod the Great in 862 AD is considered as the traditional foundation of Russia by Russians.
As far as I know the name "Russia" was coined by Petro I. I don't think there was Tsardom of Russia, but rather Tsardom of Moscow. Another thing, I doubt that the first capital of Rus was Novhorod. Novhorod was always a Free Republic and stayed that way even while being a part of Rus. And the first capital of Rus has been Kyiv.Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Congratulations! Here's a medal for you in appreciation of your hardwork in creating, expanding and nominating 25+ articles for DYK. Its a bit belated as you have over 30ish ... it seems a long time since you started and so many articles. Keep up the good work, DDima, the Ukraine is represented! --Victuallers (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I've left comments for a Good Article Review on the talk page.
From looking at your userpage, I see you have lots more experience at this than I do, but I hope the comments help. I'll formally put it on hold. Let me know what you do to the article.
Smallbones (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. I've seen your edits of late and think you would make a good administrator. It looks like someone above had the same idea, so I was wondering if you thought you were ready now (since you said you weren't a month ago). Wizardman20:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I've been offered nominations before, but they never really formulated into real RfAs. One thing that worries me is my not so consistent contributions to the Wikipedia namespace, but I've been more active in them recently. Thanks for considering me, I'll accept. —dima/talk/01:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good. I'll make the nomination, and if you wish to ask any of your previous requests to co-nom, that'd be fine at that time. Your wikispace number doesn't seem to be a problem, I've had candidates pass in similar situations before no problem. Since I ahve some time to space I should be able to get it ready shortly. Wizardman01:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Wizardman would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Wizardman to accept or decline the nomination. A page will be or has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/DDima . If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
Ok, thanks. Sorry for the delay, I am pretty busy with off-wiki stuff (school), but I'll probably answer and transclude it later on today.. —dima/talk/22:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you for beginning the GA review process of Banská Bystrica. I feel we have now addressed all (or most of) your concerns. Please let me know if you find anything else that should be improved. Thank you again for all your great suggestions! Tankred (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Здравствуйте! Хотел Вам объяснить, что я вполне обоснованно удалял русские названия из статей о городах Украины (Киеве, Харькове и др), т.к. Украина в настоящий момент - независимое государство, и единственный официальный (государственный) язык там - украинский.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 11:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi. I understand that Ukrainian is the only state language in Ukraine.. but that is not a reason as to why we should remove other names from the introduction. It (Russian) is widely spoken in Kharkiv and Kiev, just like we have the Polish: Lwów in the introduction of Lviv. They can be in there regardless of being official or not.. Please don't revert it, otherwise discuss it at the talk. —dima/talk/16:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
re:It (Russian) is widely spoken in Kharkiv and Kiev///
I want to thank Mrs.EasterBunny and Royalbroil for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. To paraphrase a president ... I wish my mum and dad could see the comments made. My dad would be so proud to see the comments ... and my mum would have believed them". I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and you may be surprised to find that I have not deleted all of the pages by accident..... yet).
Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! Acalamari02:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I created the category:Blender users you just deleted. I actually wanted it to be deleted because it was redundant, but I only discovered Category:Wikipedians who use Blenderafter the fact.
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Someone who didn't register on wikipedia has made changes too the Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007 wikipedia article. I already made some changes to his/her changes but can't really judge if his/her other changes are based on facts! I can't read Ukrainian yet, But I'm learning! Can you please take a look at it? I trust you and him/her I don't trust! He/she could be a "blue one" out on revange :) ДУЖЕ ДЯКУЮ! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. That sounds like a long way of saying: no. I have a feeling they would probably get deleted anyway. Thanks though. Ostap03:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Basicly.. I have upload quite a lot of images and they were deleted because they did not fit the "criteria" for fair-use.. I'll try to find some other maps of the war from my book colleection. —dima/talk/04:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
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This is not that important but on Mila Kunis page (actress born in Kyiv). They say her name is Milena Markovna Kunis But even my (female) friend from Crimea uses the Ukrainian version of her Patronymic (Milena Markivna Kunis, (that is not my friends name ofcourse)). I mentioned it on the talk page of the article but nobody responds on the talk page of the article. Can I change it too Milena Markivna Kunis? Russian versions of Ukrainian names irritate me :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks :) I had a bird live under my awning, and I saw a good opportunity for a picture.. unfortunatly, none of the birds lived to hatch.. —dima/talk/04:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Now that you are an administrator maybe you can help. There is an editor who is adding really complex information on the three above articles. Editor appears to adhere to "Soviet" version of the facts and characterizes anything that he disagrees as propaganda or not true. The Editor has some problems with basic English. The Editor is rude and accusatory - appears not to be use to working in a collaborative manner.
Sure, I'll be glad to help out.. I haven't followed the page all that closely in the past, but will see with what I can help out and respond on the talk page. I see that the page has been protected (UPA) until the disputes are settled and that the arbcom case has been so far rejected by the arbitrators.. Some suggest to use other forms of dispute resolution, like RfC.. —dima/talk/05:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
No offense intended. I am just trying to tie together different infoboxes with a common format and look. Please look at my changes to Pechersk. I added the main neighborhoods and made it so the settlement type shows near the top of the infobox. This sort of change could be carried across all the raisons of Kiev articles. —MJCdetroit(yak)18:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Actually, a lot of English-soeaking historians don't like this term ... I've found in general a preference for Rus'ia, although a narrow one over Russia (which would be resented on wiki), Western Russia (likewise) and of course Ruthenia. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
I don't know about historians not liking the term, but I've seen it used quite oftain.. Another equivalent for the term is plainly Rus’ (usually the one I use). —dima/talk/
You'll notice the number using it gets fewer when you survey medievalists. The term "Ruthenia" means dozens of things in modern languages, and it is quite, quite spurious to use it in the middle ages to imply that it had a distinct meaning [from Rus'ia] when its just a Latin word for Rus'ia, or that it's use conjured up separate identities in the predecessors of the peoples living in the areas which happen to fall in modern Belarus and Ukraine. Sadly though on wiki its a popular word for the last sense, prolly due to its nationalist appeal, and I'll never bother launching a real challenge to its use, so don't worry I'm not gonna revert or anything. It's a bit like the term "Angle" ... a modern invention [taken from Angl-i, -etc, meaning English] which misleads more than it informs, giving us wonderful nonsense articles like Angles and Anglic languages! I'd have likewise no chance of successfully limiting use of those. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 05:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hey, thanks! As long as nobody stresses me out, I'll gradually resume contributing. Otherwise, I'll disappear again. By the way, congrats on your adminship! — Alex Khristov08:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
I gave it it's own boxie with the party logo on it (from Ukrainian Wikipedia!). So that's 1 image! It seems that POR on it's own had 3 times more votes then United Ukraine so placing POR results there is a bit speculative...... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Privet Dima, cheers for the welcome :-)
I'll add both portals to my watchlist, but I'm just starting to learn Russian (and all I can say in Ukrainian is "tak"). I have to read it with a dictionary, one word at a time. Until I get better at the language, I won't be able to find references, so probably the best thing I can do is to concentrate on copyediting. Is there any specific page or list for that?
Another (unrelated) thing I'd like to ask you as an administrator - two days ago I reported a copyvio on Culture of Peru. I think I followed the instructions correctly, but so far nobody has dealt with the problem. Does it normally take a while, or have I done something wrong?
It's ok if you can't understand Russian so well.. more copyeditors are always appreciated. When I started on Wikipedia, I knew little of Ukrainian, but I learned more as I was on here..
As for the copyvio issue, you did everything correctly, it just sometimes takes more time for an administrator to notice, maybe because no administrator has the page watchlisted.. or because nobody was patrolling the copyright violation pages in the category.. I just removed the whole section with the violation just now.. Thanks for bringing it up.. —dima/talk/21:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Copyright problems with Image:Ukrainian political crisis talks on May 25.jpg
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An image that you uploaded, Image:Ukrainian political crisis talks on May 25.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Lupo10:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
A large portion of those images are UA military-related, that I uploaded. Are works of the Ukrainian government, or in this case ministry of defense, really non-free? Bogdanщо?01:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
У мене було перед тим декілька обговорень на коммонз щодо {{PD-UA-exempt}}, як на моїй сторінці так і на сторінці Євгена Зеленка. Вони стосувались перш за все того чи підпадають під дію цього шаблону логотипи українських підприємств. На сторінці commons:User_talk:EugeneZelenko#Логотипы украинских предприятий я навів аргументи щодо того, що всі логотипи, незалежно чи вони комерційні чи ні є у суспільному надбанні згідно українського законодавства. Загалом, варто це обговорення було б завершити на Commons talk:Licensing, щоб не мати проблем у майбутньому із завантаженням цих зображень але мені для того, щоб змістовно це описати не вистачає знань англійської. Також серед проставлених на вилучення є декілька логотипів (напр. Image:Ut-1.gif, для них потрібно поміняти ліцензію PD-UA-exempt, бо fairuse там зайве. Я гадаю, що проблему із логотипами українських підприємств, у т.ч. спортивних клубів, комерційних підприємств, політичних партій і т.д. потрібно вирішити вже зараз, щоб проблем не виникало у майбутньому. Я не бачу абсолютно ніяких перешкод для їх завантаження як на коммонз так і на локальні вікіпедії. Що стосується фотографій на державних сайтах, то в мене нема ніяких ідей щодо цього. Моїх знань авторського права не вистачає ні для того, щоб сказати, чи вони є у суспільному надбанні чи ні. Я думаю, що незалежно від того, можна спробувати зв'язатись із Управлінням прес-служби МО України - http://www.mil.gov.ua для для надання дозволу на публікацію фото під певною ліцензією, бо я не знаю чи рядка на сайті "При використанні інформації посилання на Управління Прес-служби МО України обов’язкове" достатньо для публікації. --Yakudza (talk) 09:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the information. As I understand it, images with "При використанні інформації посилання на Управління Прес-служби МО України обов’язкове" on the site can be used with the {{attribution}} template... as it requires proper attribution (I will try to e-mail some of these Ukrainian sites later to understand if they allow use of their materials on Wikipedia. —dima/talk/05:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Dima: Back in 2006 you created Image:Flag of UPR (22-03-19).PNG as the flag of the Ukrainian People's Republic adopted on March 22, 1918. Could you take another look over the issue. According to what I have learned, UPR adopted only a naval flag, and this flag was blue-yellow with COA, not yellow-blue. There are only rumors that yellow-blue was ever officially adopted. Please see Flag of Ukraine and uk:Прапор України, and the references cited there.
Hi, Grreggerr. I don't know which flag was officially adopted, but I have seen both of them used. uarmy.com.ua says that the yellow-blue version of the flag was used, while others I have seen use the blue-yellow one.. To me, it makes no big difference, and either of them are fine for me.. I'll look into some Ukrainian history books I have right now (Orest Subtelny, etc.) and see what they come up with. —dima/talk/04:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
I agree. Both flags were used de-facto. It seems that the yellow-blue flag was widely used initially, without any formal decision, like the red flag used by Bolsheviks. On the other hand, the only official flag known to us is blue-yellow (as argued by M.Chmyr). In Wikipedia we may go with either flag. We may use yellow-blue based on prevailing usage, or blue-yellow based on the only official document available. Either way, we should be clear on what we are using and why. Best, Greggerr (talk) 07:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi, Riurik, sorry for delay in responce.. I see that the image that was uploaded by the user is now deleted due to lack of licence information. If you want to re-upload the other image from the Presidential website, just use it under the fairuse licence with a non-free image rationale, because the president.gov.ua site now says "All rights reserved." which does not make it under the {{PD-UA-exempt}} licence.
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Ukrainian National Award ‘The Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky - 3rd degree’
I hereby awarded you the Ukrainian National Award ‘The Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky - 3rd degree’ for your enthusiasm and dedication to Ukrainian topics and doing all those small edits other Wikipidians overlook! - Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I made a new award. You know there are some wikipedians (like me) who are a bit to bold (and orange...). As a warning/joke a sugest to give them this award:
You are a Tymoshenko!
You are hereby recognized as a Tymoshenko for your enthusiasm and dedication to Ukrainian topics but being a bit to bold end pushy sometimes, please don't loose touch with The Victors on Wikipedia!
I thought I asked yours an User:Irpen opinions about it first... It may be a bit to much?
PS sorry about the military task force thingy, I thought there would be a Ukrainian one, should have know that Ukrainians are to peacefull to have one :). I didn't mean to give you more work! I try to be more careful in future, but it seems so logic, living in Western Europe I'm so used to people thinking that Ukraine is still a part of Rusia :(. It's there fault :) I make such mistakes :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
I think that is a bit too much.. :) That's nice for a joke, but let's not get into these political ideologies/preferences/support topics. Maybe we can tone it down a bit and remove the last part to make it more neutral..?
I agree, it is easly understood wrong (as I found out on Irpen's usertalkpage...) and I decided not to use the award. Removing the last bit would be a improvment but it still could be seen as something else then a joke :). Wikipedia is a great tool to learn to work toghetter! I try to learn that from it! So thanks for the lessons! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi, WarthogDemon. In responce to your question, I would say neither. The subject appears notable, doing a quick google on him yields 20,400 results... I have added some refs and expanded the article a bit more.. See you around, —dima/talk/03:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Dima - I have found more stuff on the development of Dnepropetrovsk. Some of it is manufacturing and economic growth.
I have got two sorts of data. I have only got two data points for each right now, but more will probably come along some time. (I keep bumping into more population data.) What we need is a format for them, and it seemed a good idea to ask you if there is some standard way you want it, rather than me doing a load of stuff and you changing it because you know the right format and I am just groping for it.
That looks pretty good, only we need to expand (and add) the respective sections (Economy and Demographics as well).. I have quite a lot of sources on the topic (history books, etc.) and I'll try to add some information as well.. —dima/talk/20:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Administrators at AIV usually recommend ANI if a case is more complex than replacement of a page by "joe is great". ANI has been tried, but it did not curb Nmate's activities. Please also note Nmate's latest insult in an edit summary.[26] This is unacceptable. Tankred (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
If degrading, misleading edit summaries are unacceptable to you, why don't you ask a block for yourself? [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]. According to WP:VAN none of these edits constituted vandalism.
Once again I ask: if many administrators find a case inconclusive on a noticeboard, you will ask one administrator on his/her talk page to make a decision you like? Does this discussion belong here? Squash Racket (talk) 04:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Tankred, try opening a Request for comment (where more people will come and comment on the issue) or other forms of mediation on the topic, seeing that its grown into more than just a couple of edit disputes on an topic. I don't think that I can help in any administrative actions and I still have yet to get more involved in the process, but I'll help with the mediation where needed.. —dima/talk/04:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Since you corrected my Moldavanka article, I've made out such a consclusion.
Anyway, my email is tramrunner229ATyahooDOTcom. Write me something. Look like I will have in Chicago, more friends then in NYC. Yet, I've never been there.
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Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e18:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Просьба, прежде чем править название нашего города Харьков, в котором лично Вы никогда не были, но зато прекрасно представляете, как его писать на английском, заглянуть хотя б в три-четыре словаря. Например, в Британнике написано Kharkiv or Kharkov. Нормы английского языка не определяются в Киеве или Москве или Вашей голове, иначе бы "по-государственному" на английском было именно Moskva, а на русском Ландон. С уважением, уважаемый украинский админ.--194.44.82.211 (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Вот абсолютно все ссылки, приведенные в вики (современные самые главные сайты), самого города:
General
citynet.kharkov.ua — Official website of Kharkov City Information Center
city.kharkov.ua — Official website of Kharkov City Council (in Ukrainian)/(in Russian)
http://www.kharkivoda.gov.ua Официальный сайт Харьковской областной администрации - это не город, область; глава Арсен Аваков, назначен губернатором области лично Виктором Ющенко; его племянник Ярослав Ющенко - зам. Авакова по экономике Харьковской области
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You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 14:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I couldn't help out, I didn't check wiki for the past couple of days (testing, etc.) Hopefully, these edit wars won't go on after his block, they are nothing more than a waste of time and nerves for all.
I think it's time to start the cathedral page. It's a big missing chunk in the Lavra section and needs to be written. Let's start in soon. —dima/talk/23:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Dima, Two questions for you:
1. Can you please look at this page and advise about whether or not there is an anecdote there and if it's appropriate? Dzyhivka
2. Also, since you edit both English and Ukrainian pages, on the Ukrainian page I keep adding a link to the English page and they keep deleting it. Why is that? On English pages, we add foreign language links all the time with no problem.
Thank you. USchick (talk) 22:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
If you look at the Ukrainian page at the left site of the page there is already a link to the English page, so there deleting double links. (I'm saving Dima a bit of time :) hope you don't mind Dima) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi, USchick. The text as it is on Dzyhivka isn't appropriate for such a large encyclopedia like Wikipedia because it's such a small minor detail in an article about a village. The text would probably be more appropriate for a small local wiki of some kind or Wikitravel, which includes a lot of such information. If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to help out, —dima/talk/23:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Ukraine is not Russia, and Russian is not official language in Ukraine. I see that you (Russians) don't add in Russian Latvian or Estonian cities, even though there are more Russian than in Ukraine. Please stop do this! Ones again, Ukraine is not Russia, and Russian is not official language in Ukraine!
I gave this disruptive IP a final warning on his talk page during his last attack visit, you are an admin, I need not tell you what to do.
On a separate note what is your take on aviation? this comes to mind. I'll be very surprised if you never been there!
On the museum, I haven't ever really been to that part of the city and the museum (except on a trip to the airport.. some time ago :) We'll have to start on it later on.. Btw let's start on the Uspensky Cathedral soon; I now have more time on my hands and will be able to contribute more. —dima/talk/04:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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RfA: Many thanks
Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hello there. It would mean a lot to me if you could help make an argument on the talk of the city template of the United Kingdom. I know that you are interested in the way these templates work and are interested in keeping them (to some extent) standard. Please make an argument on Template talk:United Kingdom cities#Consensus if you are intended on keeping some standards here. Please make a statement here and thank you very much. — NuclearVacuum18:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Seriously the 16th century Hetmanate rightfully deserves to carry that name, and not a short lived republic which officially was known as Derzhava. --Kuban Cossack15:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi DDima, I have been trying to edit things today, and it seems all that I tried to do have been reverted. especially by 2 users, seems they are just looking through my sandbox, and reverting all my contributions. Most evident on articles of Micheal Kuss, Chris Potter, and Nelson Chan
can you help with some of these articles, and help protect these articles?
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Triumphant and rather bitching one. Also a personal gratitude to this fellow for deleting 60% of Kiev Metro's images including the unique 1960s shots. If I re-upload them as fair use, will you back me up to ensure that no turd kakashka will touch them. (Criterion 1 will be satisfied, one can't re-create the 1960s right?) --Kuban Cossack18:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Nice that another station opened, but too bad that I won't be in Kiev this year to see it :( Of course I'll help out with the images, but in a week or so because I have some off-wiki work to do.. —dima/talk/21:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Pryvit Dima!
Do you understand how to use all of the wiki formating to make templates? If yes, can you please recreate the templates:
{{Fs start}}{{Fs player}}{{Fs mid}}{{Fs end}}
to the Ukrainian language wikipedia?
Sorry, I didn't start on it earlier.. was going to get started on it soon. Anyway, seeing that you're from Kamianets by your ua-wiki userpage, would you like to help out in writing Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle in my sandbox? I have started the page quite a while ago, but can never get around to finishing it up.. —dima/talk/03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I've left this message for a few others but thought you might help. Awhile ago, inspired by a personal mood or interest, I did a lot of research and with it created an article about Ukrainians of Brazil. Since then someone has added a list prominant "Ukrainians", almost all of whom were actually non-Ukrainians (mostly Jewish emigres, with a Russian one also, none of whom self-identified as Ukrainians). Because this detracted from the article I removed those people. This prompted an edit war, smears of me being a Nazi, etc. because apparently some Brazilian editors feel that every single person born in Ukraine must be a Ukrainian and it is racist to state otherwise. I provided examples of other non-Ukrainians from Ukraine such as Ukrainian-born Trotsky or Mikhail Bulgakov to no avail. I provided sources (Subtleny and Magosci) that meet wikpedia standards of reliability showing that shtetl dwellers didn't consider themselves Ukrainians and kept apart form them. That didn't help. I asked the other side to refrain from making edits without a source backing up their claim - more abuse. According to Opinoso (talk), the editor who has already been blocked for abuse and who has already been waned on this article, mine is a "19th century Nazi view" [33]. Every one of my edits on that article was sourced and it's still being reverted based on opinion. I'm starting to get frustrated. Perhaps another Eastern-European voice would be helpful? Thank you for your time.Faustian (talk) 04:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Dima. We've got a user who writes great articles about shipbuilding facilities in Ukraine. Please take a look at User_talk:Irpen#Ukrainian_Shipbuilding for his request for help. Could you look at his contributions and make a navigational template for articles he wrote? Thanks, --Irpen02:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hello and Help -- I am confused. Since I am so new, you're only one of two editors that I know who can speak Ukrainian and Russian. I am having a heck of a time keeping transliterations consistent because all of the different sources I've been using in this Black Sea Shipyard article. For example, there are different variants of Nikolaev (Nikolayev) and Inhul (Ingul) river.
The article has a LONG way to go but if you have time, I'd really appreciate it if you helped me correct some of these. Then based on your fixes, I will continue to use those spellings.
I apologize for asking you directly on your personal talk page but is there a better place to request this kind of langauge assistance next time? Ukranian portal?
The way it is that Mykolaiv (or Mykolayiv) is the Ukrainian variant of the name while Nikolayev (or Nikolaev) is the Russian variant. It's the same case with the Inhul/Ingul; the former is Ukrainian while the latter—Russian. The reason why there are different variants of the names is the method of Romanization of Ukrainian/Russian (there's a table with differences in romanization in the article..)
Here on Wikipedia, in naming the article, we refer to the Manual of Style and Naming conventions pages, which is why the article is titled Mykolaiv (in the article's text, I generally use the name which is the articles' title, i.e. if the article is titled Kiev I'll use Kiev in the text)
Thank you so much for the information. I just wanted to make sure I am consistent :-) Also, thank for you telling me about the other resources. I will definitely have more questions which I will post on the Ukraine portal as I continue what I have dubbed "my Ukraine shipbuilding project" ( Спасибо. Вождь "Хуги" Медведь ) (Did I do that right? :-) "Huggy" or "Chief" doesn't quite translate with the same humorous overtone ;-) chiefhuggybear (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Please semi-protect the article for the time being, this attack by IP #68 is going on for a month now, consider also some disciplinary action against him, he was warned repeatedly. --Kuban Cossack13:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Dima you like to correct wrong spellings of Dnepropetrovsk. The International Tennis Federation website is spelling Dnepropetrovsk with an 'A' instead of a 'D' in biographies of some players from the city. Other websites then copy what they have generating more errors. Please could you try and persuade them to correct it.
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After a break from such behavior Jo0doe (talk has resumed with his abusive behavior here [36] ("Inability to read and comprehend books by some of editors it’s not a hurdle for others, while removing of well referenced NPOV information called as usual -vandalism") and here [37]. He has already been warned about such behavior in the past: [38]. I would also like to point out that he has been engaged in a low level edit warring involving making massive one-sided changes to the article which have been reverted by several editors: [39]. According to the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule, "The motivation for the three-revert rule is to prevent edit warring. In this spirit the rule does not convey an entitlement to revert three times each day, nor does it endorse reverting as an editing technique. Rather, the rule is an "electric fence".[1] Editors may still be blocked even if they have made three or fewer reverts in a 24 hour period, if their behavior is clearly disruptive. Efforts to game the system, for example by persistently making three reverts each day or three reverts on each of a group of pages, cast an editor in a poor light and may result in blocks. Many administrators give less leniency to users who have been blocked before, and may block such users for any disruptive edit warring regardless of whether they have explicitly violated the three-revert rule. Similarly, editors who may have technically violated the 3RR may not be blocked, depending on circumstances." This particular editor's months-long behavior seems to qualify. On the article's talk page a summarized various applicable wikipedia policies that have been repeatedly violated by this user: [40]. Would you be able to send him a friendly warning please? Thank you. (I am sending the same message to another administrator familiar with this page).Faustian (talk) 19:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi Faustian. Sorry that I couldn't be much of a help to you with user:Jo0doe. The article's been protected for two weeks already, but I'll keep an eye on it so no such behavior arises again. —dima/talk/06:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
I left this note an another admin's talk page. There is more nastiness by Jo0doe (talk) despite the warning: [42]. The article is blocked for now but the recent discussion suggest more unilateral disruptive behavior by Jo0doe (talk) when it gets unblocked July 4th.Faustian (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Thanks very much for fixing my images so neatly, DDima! I'll study what you did and try to learn—I've always wanted to be a wizard with image placement. Er.. just one thing, though. Do you think you could have the Giano colibri and the MONGO bear change places? Because the colibri kind of goes in the top right-hand corner. I didn't mention that, and it's a little complicated to explain, but it just, like, goes there. Sorry to be a pest—don't bother if you're tired of fussing with it. Best wishes, and thank you again. Bishonen | talk12:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC).Reply
You're welcome :) Sure, I'll move them around, and it's no big deal, it's not that difficult for me (I guess I am a template-geek :) Cheers,
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I am thinking of creating an article about Natalya Korolevskaya (see:[44]). I have the feeling she is going places but I was wondering if she is famous enough to have her own wiki article (she is just a mp right now...). Are there any wikirules about that? PS I hope you had/are having a nice wikibreak! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the answer, she is better looking then all the US Senators :) and therefor good for Ukraine image :) It's good to have you back! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 02:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I've left the same message for User:Alex Bakharev but I hope someone will do something about this problem.
I admit to sinking to Jo0doe's level of insults by being rude (calling him a liar, calling out his dishonesty) after weeks of provocations, although at least everything I have said about him (although uncivil) has been true and I backed it all up with evidence. And it was done in reaction to his unpunished abuse by repeatedly referring to my edits as "hoaxes" - in other words, calling me a liar [45]. Now he's descended into libelling me as a "holocaust denier." Please see [46]:
So, actually, you attempt to put other editor in misconception and challenged the reliability of USA Prosecution facts at IMT tribunal. So you claim what you unable to find words “organizations which are working with Amt Abwehr have same (as Nazi’s) “objectives”, namely, the Poles and the Jews? and all farms and dwelling of the Poles should go up in flames, and all Jews be killed”. Or you suppose what such facts related to TWO DIFFERENT events? Actually it’s clear attempts of Holocaust denier- because facts about “objectives” and “all Jews be killed” were included in charge of both Nazi criminals.
(I bolded the text)
After which among numerous examples he refers to me as "...an editor which challenged the reliability of USA Prosecution at IMT tribunalJo0doe (talk) 07:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)" throughout the talk pages.
Jo0doe has already been warned multiple times such as here: [47] and has brushed off those warnings. Looking at his editing history, it basically just consists of arguments with other editors [48] on two topics. I have enjoyed editing collaboratively with various editors, even when we have disagreed vehemently (as in the case of User:Kuban kazak or User:Irpen at times) so I do not think the problem is me, and have been recognized for my efforts: [49]. Indeed, I held back for a long time before complaining about Jo0doe. But there are limits even to my patience.
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'Bangladesh' is a colloquial term for the 'Malatia Sebastia' district of Yerevan, used to describe the area's poverty. This is verified by French Wikipedia - [50].
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(copied from my talk page)
I agree with you on keeping the Hungarian variant of the name "Zakarpattia Oblast" but I don't see a need to add a Hungarian variant to every city/town's name. This just clutters up the intro with names a reader can find in the respective articles (and others like Russian too). —dima/talk/00:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
I've added a sentence to the intro which indicates that there are significant minorities/majorities of Hungarians, Romanians etc. I think that we can remove the Czech variant (Podkarpatská rus) which also refers to the Zakarpattia (historical region) but not the modern-day province itself (or change it to Slovak which is spoken in neighboring Slovakia..) —dima/talk/00:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
When I was visiting the Khotyn Fortress last year, I remembered the tour guide mentioned something about the "dark spot" but I didn't exactly remember what she was talking about (probably not salt now as I look through Google results).
A Google search for Хотин + мокрое пятно yields a whole bunch of forums (unfortunately, we can't use those).[51][52] They refer to the museum's director and archaeological evidence which say that drying oil was once stored in the fort's basement, and, having leaked into the walls, cased the "dark spot" we see today.
A news site also pops up among the Google results, but it refers to the legend behind the spot (that a woman was buried in the walls and the "dark spot" comes from her tears).. —dima/talk/01:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
I was just working on the article about the fotress and was writing about the different legends about fortress. (See the Legacy section) I wanted to know where the spot really came from so I could include it into the article. --Boguslav (talk) 15:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I wonder if you know how to renew an image, like edit an Wikipedia image a little bit to make it look better and relace that image with the old one (The old one would be shown on the image page). Do you just upload the file under the same name, or is there a more complex procedure.
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Hi Dima,
I noticed that you removed the "Demographics of Europe" template from Crimea. What was your reason for doing so? Demographics of Crimea is a link on the "Demographics of Europe" template, and that link redirects to the Demographics section of the Crimea article. For this reason, it seems to me that the template needs to be included at the bottom of that section.
I just thought that those templates are only placed on specific articles like Demographics of Crimea and not in the topic's section of main article (Crimea).. For the same reason we could place {{Politics of Europe}} into the #Politics section and {{History of Europe}} in the #History section and any such related templates in the relevant sections.. I just think it uglyfies the article with templates which can be placed when an article like Demographics of Crimea is eventually created.
Perhaps, if you want to keep it in the article, we can place it at the bottom of the page where all of the templates are located and not scattered around the place. —dima/talk/01:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi Dima,
I agree that all three sections you mention, under this principle, would require their corresponding templates, and while I would prefer they be located at the bottom of their respective sections, I can understand why such interspersed templates might seem unsightly. Including them at the bottom of the article seems like a healthy compromise. I had originally been placing them at the bottom of their appropriate sections because I found such examples on a featured article, although I could find no guidelines pertaining to the issue. I think a guideline should be written regarding template locations, just for standardization purposes, though I'm not sure how to go about suggesting that.
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DDima, you might want to take a look at the CIS map for the CIS article as it appears users are set to make Wikipedia into a crystal ball by changing the map before any official process takes place by which Georgia leaves the CIS. One user also removed Ukraine, probably for the same reasons (all unsourced I've noticed) that claim that Ukraine isn't a member despite participating in meetings and funding bodies.72.27.174.160 (talk) 21:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well, it would help if the CIS website was working. (I actually saw a MFA deputy minister on Channel 5 saying Ukraine isn't a full member.) Right now all I'm sure of is that Ukraine isn't a full member. Maybe it would help to put {{cite}} tags in the article for now? — Alex Khristov21:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Interesting. I was quite sure for some time that Ukraine was a full member of the CIS.. I thought that if Ukraine wasn't everyone would know about it.. Looks like I'm mistaken. Btw, welcome back Alex! —dima/talk/04:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
But can anyone find any source that Ukraine and Moldova aren't full members? The CIS article makes mention of Ukraine and Moldova never being full members to begin with, but has absolutely no references to cite this (which is not really acceptable in wikipedia as otherwise anything can get in such as that fictional eastern bloc organization that had a full page a couple of years ago) and if it is so it's almost comical that this had been missed in almost 20 years. Is Khristov sure the MFA deputy foreign minister was referring to the CIS as a whole or to some subset organization such as the Eurasian Economic Community or Collective Security Treaty Organization? Ukraine is not a member of the Common Economic Space/Eurasian Economic Community of the CIS and neither is Moldova. And could the deputy foreign minister on Channel 5 have been referring to Ukraine's participation in the CIS overall (which is minimal) as opposed to its status (which could still be a full member just as how the UK is a full member of the EU without participating in the euro)?72.27.24.167 (talk) 06:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well it's an improvement, but not a great one I must say because for an observer like me at least it adds more confusion. First the CIS article was edited claiming that Ukraine never ratified the CIS treaty (which would only be relevant if Ukraine had signed it to beginwith), then the claim is that Ukraine never signed the treaty but participates in whatever spheres benefit it and so acts as an associate member. However this all flies in the face of what Leonid Kravchuk did with the Belavesha Accords (which is what supposedly established the CIS in the first place) and the Alma-Ata Protocol (which restated the establishment of the CIS). Now maybe I'm wrong, but it would seem that Ukraine signed something in December 1991 which established the CIS and thereby it should be a founding member, or at least a founding signatory and current associate member. Given the way the reasoning has changed as to why Ukraine isn't in the CIS, one would have to wonder if this isn't all some overblown reaction towards a moribund organization due to the recent conflict in Georgia. So what is that Ukraine didn't sign? And all of this assumes that the Belavesha Accords and Alma-Ata Protocol needed a vote by each republics supreme soviet/independent legislature to actually ratify the accords/protocol at the time. Did accords and protocols need ratification by the legislature at the time those accords/protocols were signed (in December 1991)? And if it was that Ukraine didn't ratify either the protocol or the accords and ratification was needed by the Ukrainian legislature, then doesn't that also draw some legal doubts on the dissolution of the USSR itself?72.27.24.167 (talk) 04:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well, we can only guess at what's legal and what's not, but it won't help the situation. Wikipedia doesn't allow for analysis (sometimes I wish it would), so we can only stick to what the sources say for now. But I agree, the situation is fishy. — Alex Khristov17:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
And using a google translator I looked at the reference for Moldova's membership and that reference has Ukraine ratifying both the Belavesha Accords and the Alma-Ata protocol (for which all the other dates seem sound ranging from 1993 for Georgia and Azerbaijan, to 1994 for Moldova). In fact that reference seems to be useful for sorting out who signed to up what under the CIS in general - I noted from it that not one member has signed on or ratified everything listed - not even Russia, Belarus or Kazakhstan. In fact Kazakhstan comes closest to having ratified everything. By the way, this thought occured to me, was legislative approval definitely needed before 1991/1992 for Ukraine to enter into treaties? And if so was Ukrainian legislative approval ever given for Ukraine to sign on the UN in 1945? And if such approval was needed but not achieved does that mean Ukraine was never a member of the UN and isn't a member now? By the way DDima, thanks for allowing us to have such a thought-provoking discussion on your talk page.72.27.24.167 (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
It's definitely all a gray area.. A Korrespondent article just went out here, where it says that Ukraine was a founding member that didn't sign the laws on the organization regulation and its international status.. Also, my Ukrainian history books mention that Leonid Kravchuk was very skeptical of joining any such organizations (Subtelny, et al). Looks like we'll have to watch for the text of the law project on the removal of Ukrainian membership and formation of the CIS from the page of the Yuriy Kostenko's law projects (the one who created such a project in parliament) at the Verkhovna Rada website.
About the formation of the United Nations, I don't know whether or not approval was given by the parliament but no government right now will deny that Ukraine isn't a legal member (even if parliamentary approval wasn't given for the Ukrainian SSR's membership [but was it required back then?]). —dima/talk/18:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Whether or not parliamentary approval was required back then is exactly what I am wondering about with regards to the CIS. From what I gather the Ukrainian constitution wasn't changed upon independence but rather amended and was only changed in 1995. So unless the amendments changed the rules regarding treaty ratification, then the same doubt which seems to have been thrown up by Ukraine not ratify something to do with the CIS might well apply to Ukraine and the UN (unless the constitution in 1945 was radically different from the one after 1978) and whether or not a government wouldn't like to deny Ukraine as a UN member won't help if Ukraine ends up in a legal case in which Ukraine's legal membership of the UN is important as lawyers won't care what governments think especially if they find something that can win their case, and no self-respecting judge could fudge any undeniably rock-solid legal argument (it's not like UN membership can be equated to common-law marriage where after a given period Ukraine can be "considered" as a UN member). As it is, I'm not sure which document Ukraine didn't ratify - the Moldova reference indicates Ukraine ratified the 1991 documents but not the regulation document, but that document was from 1993 or 1994 wasn't it? Which would mean that basically every country joined an organization that didn't exist if we are taking the regulations document as the start, which is kind of strange since an agreement establishing the CIS should be taken as the founding document and the start of the CIS, not the document that outline how it works and whether or not it has legal personality (just as how the Amsterdam and Nice treaties should not be regarded as the real start of the European Union). And it would also be strange because the CIS is known to have existed from the end of 1991, look through any newspaper between 1991 and 1993 and there will be mention of a CIS, not a future CIS. Kravchuk's misgivings might be useful to put in any article pertaining to the CIS or it's foundations. Not sure though if he followed his reluctance as he certainly signed twice.72.27.91.3 (talk) 22:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Okay, trying to put a bit more clarity into it, or at least gather all the necessary background information: according to a google preview of the Encyclopedia of Soviet Law [55], "The 1977-1978 USSR and union republic constitutions reserve to their respective jurisdictions the links with 'foreign states and international organizations'. The Supreme Soviets are empowered to decide all questions regulated by their constitutions to their jurisdiction. The presidia of the supreme soviets are expressly empowered to 'ratify and denounce international treaties of the USSR', and the respective council of ministers to 'confirm and denounce intergovernmental international treaties'. The procedures for proposing, negotiating, initialling, signing, ratifying, confirming, or acceding to international treaties are laid down in great detail in the 1978 Law and 1980 Decree on treaties. Certain kinds of international treaties under the 1978 Law must be ratified. These include treaties on friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance, treaties on the mutual renunciation of the use or threat of force, peace treaties, treaties on the territorial delimitation of the USSR with other states, treaties estbalishing rules other than those which are contained in USSR legislative acts, treaties which the parties have stipulated will be subject to ratification, and others which the Presidium may wish to ratify. Ratification edicts of the Presidium do not require subsequent confirmation of the full supreme soviet." Now having found that it brings up a number of questions: 1. If the rules governing Soviet treaty ratification in the USSR constitution were similar as those governing union republic ratification in the union republic constitutions then the presidium of the Ukrainian supreme soviet (rada) could ratify and denounce treaties without having to have the entire soviet/rada vote on it. Was this this case in 1991 when Kravchuk was chairman of the rada? 2. Were the two initial agreements (Belavesha Accords and Alma-Ata Protocol) which established the CIS and it's founding membership treaties "which the parties have stipulated will be subject to ratification"? I'm just wondering if some of the sources and claims out there are not basing the claim that Ukraine isn't a member because they are applying post-1996 rules on pre-1996 agreements when they should be looking at the rules at the time.72.27.25.85 (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Dima. I'm having a problem with a disruptive IP who keeps reverting me. Could you take a look here, and then consider what needs to be done. Other administrators don't seem to care. Regards, Bogdanщо?07:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi Bogdan. Another user has attempted a compromise on the article here.. Is that revision correct? I'll keep a close eye on the article so the anon doesn't keep up his disruptive revert warring. I'll protect the article for a content dispute if he doesn't stop. —dima/talk/17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Check out what this user has been doing. If he shouldn't be blocked he should be warned. Narking (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC) (Just to make it clear I reverted his edits of the UPA poster where he had put svastikas) Narking (talk) 17:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Dima,
There is a certain anonymous user that keeps vandalizing the Serhiy Rebrov article. I have already gave him a warning, which seems to be ineffective. Can you see what you can do about this? --BoguslavM19:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
Do you think it would be a good idea too ask the administration of Yulia's website if wikipedia is allowed to use there pictures? It seems to have saved this [59] picture. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Sorry, I've seen that you're Russian, and I felt I have to ask you to help me. I have to phone to your "rodina" to my godmother, but I don't know the customs of phoning (like for example in Britain people who call first tell their numbers to be analysed, but we in Hungary tell our name. How do Russians do it??? Anyway I have understanding problems too, but that's just my mistake (I learn Russian from a book by myself, and I know the grammar at an understandable level, but I have not yet said anything in this language). I understood, the one who I wanted to speak with is not currently connectable, but I couldn't understand when she will arrive. Next time I'd like do it with a routine, and I would be glad if you emailed me. (Please email (bukolyiferi@gmail.com), not on Wikipedia, and please in English).
Thank you very much! Spasibo!!! 91.82.26.47 (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Moved the information from "Category:Ukrainian-Russians" too "Category:Russians of Ukrainian descent" as it is a better description! Can you please delete the "Category:Ukrainian-Russians" page! Thanks! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 03:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I reworked some category's again! Can you please delete "Category:Ukrainians of Belarus descent" (I did some mizzpelleding then) and "Category:Belarusian Ukrainians"? I moved all the content to "Category:Ukrainians of Belarusian descent". Дякую!! And good luck with the new President! -- Mariah-Yulia (talk) 02:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
OK, I'll take care of it.. Thanks :) It looks like Obama is going to win the election, but I can't set anything in stone. There's tons of ways Obama can win, only a couple of ways for McCain. So we'll see in 22 hours :) —dima/talk/02:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
I reworked the category's "Category:Ukrainian Armenians" + "Category:Romanian-Ukrainians" + "Category:Moldavian-Ukrainians". Can you please delete them too. It was the last of them. By the way Obama won the elections in case you missed it :) -- Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Can you please semi-protect my userpage? I have been attackt by a vandals (when trying to protect User:Ivan2007) today by a user and saw he/she already came back under a different name to vandalise User:Ivan2007 userpage again, I got the feeling I'm next, again. It might be a good idea to semi-protect User:Ivan2007 userpage too, although a admin. already asked on his talkpage if he wanted that. -- Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
It has already been done by another admin. (24 hour protection). I wouldn't mind a 1 week protection though, got the feeling he will be back... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 01:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, I'm a little concerned about this image- are you certain the site allows commercial use and modification? The text you have copied implies they don't mind the work being copied, but generally, unless explicitly stated, we assume they won't allow commercial use or modification. I can't really look into the issue myself, as I don't speak Ukranian. J Milburn (talk) 17:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hi. Well the site states that the use of their materials is allowed only with direct reference to their website http://www.ukrinform.ua/ (original Ukrainian: Використання матеріалів тільки з дозволу Укрінформу.) That would allow us to upload their work under the {{attribution}} licence right? They don't specify any other restrictions.. I would think that's all they require whenever you use their materials. —dima/talk/17:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for telling me about that.. I'm suprised, when did they change the policy? I have been quite away from Wiki in the last couple of months so I probably, didn't catch that.. Cheers, —dima/talk/18:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
It wasn't an instant flip from always linking to never linking. There has been lots of debate over two years with various nuances and there is still plenty of debate. It takes a long time to filter from the style guide to all 2.5 million articles, but you may wish to look at Wikipedia:Featured articles and Wikipedia:Good articles to see how it has been taken up by key articles. Lightmouse (talk) 19:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
And it still isn't. There is considerable feeling that the autoformatting aspect of date linking was a mistake, and that many fewer dates should be linked than now are; but it is not clear there is consensus even on that, although I support it.
FA and GA are useless guides to such matters; they are infested by punctuation cranks, who will ignore the accuracy, clarity, neutrality, and verifiability of
How are you so sure? How much of that generalization that "FA and GA are useless guides to such matters; they are infested by punctuation cranks" comes from general assumption of bad faith on the reviewers' part (in the case of FAC) and how much of that comes from actual experience? I would lean towards the former. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, I'm writing to you cause I'm searching for a guy named Dima from Ukraine, Kiev. If u were in Bulgaria this year and had fun in Golden Sands in let me know:D my e-mail is vickie1@wp.pl. If u simply aren't the guy Greetz to you from Poland!
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I see you are doing a good job with the Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle. Do you know where I can find information about the various "Constructions" of the Khotyn Fotress? I would appreciate your help. --BoguslavM20:50, 26 December 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I really need to finish it off and move it into the article space soon (hopefully before the end of the year :))) Anyway, I have some tourbooks about Chernivtsi and the Khotyn Fortress so I'll see what I can add from them (there's some maps in there too) I've been really dormant in Wikipedia for the last couple of months I'll gladly help you out. Anyway, з Новим Роком!! —dima/talk/22:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)Reply
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This now has its own article at Dnepropetrovsk maniacs. One problem that has been encountered is the lack of English language news sourcing, with most of the media coverage in Russian. Since you are proficient in this area, please could you have a look at the article to check for any inaccuracies, spelling mistakes etc. Also, there is a need to ensure that graphic content is not added to the article (see the talk page). Please could you add this article to your watchlist and monitor the situation for Wikipedia. Thanks, --♦IanMacM♦(talk to me)08:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
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