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Nomination for deletion of Template:Year in State of Palestine
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Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution (second request)
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Concern regarding Draft:Belarus–Bulgaria relations
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Concern regarding Draft:Mykolaivka, Vysokopillia settlement hromada
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Your draft article, Draft:Belarus–Bulgaria relations
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Your draft article, Draft:Mykolaivka, Vysokopillia settlement hromada
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Speedy deletion nomination of Mykolaivka settlement hromada
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Speedy deletion nomination of Mykolaivka rural hromada
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Ukraine Villages
editHiya - thanks for your article creations of Ukrainian villages. There's no earthly reason why you would HAVE to complete the geography and history sections of them, but adding these sections and tagging them for someone else to fill out is a little 'off' - if there is information to be got, sources to be found and worthwhile information to add, don't you feel you, as page creator should at least try to do that? And if it's not out there, just don't add the sections! I don't mean to carp, the articles are truly appreciated, but maybe a thing to consider. For now, they're marked as 'reviewed' and so are now searchable. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Alexandermcnabb thanks! About my articles, I'm assuming you're talking about the Ukrainian city district articles I made yesterday (not the Ukrainian village articles I made about a week ago which don't have any of the expand section templates). I definitely hear your point and kinda agree with you: while I personally prefer putting in the tags so that people who have better access to the sort of stuff that talks about the history and geography of the districts can put it in, I also agree that I should at least be putting in something. About these new pages, I was thinking of going back after I finished making the rest of Ukraine's city districts and adding in a sentence or two for each of the sections (probably a sentence mentioning the former name if applicable in the history section and a sentence reiterating the district's location and size relative to the others). For me, I usually prefer expanding a short stub rather than making a comprehensive article from scratch which is one of the main reasons why I've made a lot of stubs. Definitely agree with your point though and will take it into account. Many thanks for messaging me about this and def let me know if there's anything else I can do to make my new articles (esp. my Ukrainian hromada articles) better going forward. Thanks for reviewing them too btw! :) Best, Dan the Animator 21:33, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Infobox hromada
editI thought I should let you know, since you're using the {{Infobox hromada}} template a bunch: I actually created that template a month or so ago, and it's a bit incomplete still – it doesn't support that many parameters, and the formatting of the list of different types of settlements is ugly as all hell - so feel free to let me know if you have suggestions for changes to make to it that would improve your workflow or whatnot. One thing I often do with it is use the module
parameter to add a cool map to the infobox that gets auto-generated based on Wikidata information. This gets used in Tokmak urban hromada, for instance. HappyWith (talk) 22:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hey HappyWith, thanks for the message and sorry for the delay in my reply (I caught a cold and have been taking a wikibreak to catch up with my other stuff). About the template, even if it is still kinda new, just know that this has been by far one of the most useful templates I've used since joining Wikipedia. I agree it isn't as comprehensive as it could be but judging from what many of the Ukrainian Wikipedia hromada articles have, I don't think its far from perfect at all. In terms of the parameters, I think what's on there right now is great though I agree it could use some additions. Below's a list of some ideas of additions/modifications (bulleted and bolded) for the template so definitely let me know your thoughts on these.
- Add a line for "Date Hromada Founded/Established": not too sure about this one given all the current hromadas were made in the same time (at least to my knowledge, because of the administrative reform) but it wouldn't hurt to add it in, especially since chances are most readers aren't familiar with the recent legislative history of Ukraine.
- Add a line for "Hromada Leader Political Party/Affiliation": I noticed on the English ceremonial counties (example) it shows the party affiliation of the governing leader for the county so I'm thinking maybe a similar thing could be added here (either as it's own entry line or as an addition in parentheses next to the name of the hromada leader—in my opinion, I think the political party affiliation should be put in parentheses next to the governing leader to save on space/bytes).
- Add a line for "Hromada Preceding administrative unit(s)": Given there are a lot of Wikipedia pages on the old administrative units of Ukraine, it may make sense to include a short entry of previous administrative affiliations so that those old pages are linked to the new pages. There's different ways this could be done but I was thinking just a one-line entry like "Previous admin. divisions: [insert name of previous raion]"
- Add a line for "Hromada Flag and/or Coat of Arms": On a lot of the other national subdivision articles I've looked at, there is a clear tendency to include the flag and/or seal of the administrative unit. While many of the Ukrainian Wikipedia hromada articles don't have any flag/seals included in their infoboxes or articles, there are some that include them (example). I remember earlier on when I was seeing if there were things I could add to the hromada articles I noticed how Commons has a bunch of "hromada flags"; however, all the flags aren't necessarily meant for the hromadas but are rather the flags of the individual settlements. I'm not sure whether the flag of the hromada is by definition the same as that of the administrative center's flag but if it is, a line in the template should be added to support the addition of a .png file displaying the flag.
- Add a line for "Webpage of Hromada": Not sure whether this would be better put in an External Links section on the article or in the infobox but including a link to the Ukrainian government's website for the hromada would be good. It doesn't really matter too much right now, especially since the sole source I've been using for my hromada articles is the same webpage that would be linked but given some Ukrainian Wikipedia hromada articles include it (ex: Komyshuva hromada article linked above) it would be good in the long-term to have it.
- Add a line for "Code CATOTTG of Hromada": Not knowledgeable of the specifics of the code and how relevant/important it is but given the Ukrainian Wikipedia articles include it and it doesn't take up too much space, it may be a good idea to add a line saying the hromada code (similar to how articles such as the Komyshuva hromada article linked above do it). While the Ukrainian Wikipedia articles don't do this, if the code is included, the code's text could be linked to the Ukrainian government's directory listing of the hromada (example).
- After a closer look at the template documentation page, it looks like this is already true but just in case, here's my suggestions on the settlements list: for the formatting of the template, it shows "Population" as a sub-header with the population "Total" and "Density" displayed as bulleted items while "Cities," "Towns," "Villages," & "Rural-Settlements" are all shown without any particular distinction. For better display, make "Cities," "Towns," etc. all bulleted items under a new sub-header called "Settlements," similar to how the "Population" sub-section is currently done. Also, next to this new "Settlements" sub-header, the total number of settlements in the hromada could be put in parentheses (mirroring how the census year is shown next to the "Population" sub-header).
- While all these changes would improve the infobox in my opinion, in terms of helping my workflow, the best thing for me for now to be honest would be to keep them as-is. Technically, if these suggested (or other) changes were made after I made more articles, I would have to go back to each article and add the new infobox code manually rather than if the changes were made now and so all the articles would have already incorporated the changes. Considering though that I have to go back to each article anyways to add the links to the settlements and make other fixes/additions, I don't think the infobox has to be edited before I make additional hromada articles (or in any case, even if the infobox is changed while I'm creating additional hromada articles, I'll commit to fixing the any outdated hromada articles to incorporate the changes to the infobox). So feel free to modify the template at any point regardless of whether I'm actively creating new hromada articles or not.
- For the
module
parameter, I noticed it before and tried to replicate it when making my first hromada article in Donetsk Oblast but it kept giving me an error. I initially thought it was because of an error I was making but since you mentioned it relies on Wikidata info, I think it may be because most of the new hromada articles I make aren't connected to their Wikidata items. I definitely think that all the hromada articles should include the parameter but given I don't know how to connect articles to their Wikidata items, I'll likely add the parameters in together with the settlement wikilinks and other edits when going back and revisiting each article (after the Wikidata items have been connected). Really sorry for the very long-winded reply but let me know what you think about the proposed template additions, the approach to creating the hromada articles, and anything else that you think of. Many thanks again for making the template and for all the support with the article creations! Dan the Animator 05:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)- Thanks for the suggestions! I'll address them one-by-one:
- The date established: It's not actually true that all of them were formed in 2020. I believe the concept of the hromada originally comes from grassroots efforts in villages back in 2015 and 2016 - it was only in 2020 that it was made universal across the entire country as a standard administrative division. So yes, that would be useful as a parameter.
- Leader party: I think most of the local leaders are non-partisan, but sure, that would be easy enough to implement.
- Preceding administrative unit: I dunno about this one. Seems a bit vague as a parameter, and not sure how it's useful to a reader.
- Flag and/or Coat of Arms: I think there are actually some hromadas with unique flags and COAs, so sure.
- Webpage of Hromada: Yeah that'll be easy to implement too.
- CATOTTG: This should be easy too.
- I actually don't really know how to format the settlements list the way I want to. I can try to adjust it further, but my knowledge of the markup just isn't that good. HappyWith (talk) 14:57, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestions! I'll address them one-by-one:
- For the
- Saw the template and many thanks for adding in everything! For the preceding administrative unit, yeah I agree, it's better to leave it off the infobox. About the formatting for the settlements list, how do you want it to look like? I'm not an expert in Wikipedia's markup but I still might be able to help add in the code to make that formatting. Dan the Animator 23:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Basically exactly like you described, like the population tab with the small bullet points. I was only able to implement ugly large bullet points that don’t seem to be laid out quite like the population stats do. HappyWith (talk) 23:54, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Saw the template and many thanks for adding in everything! For the preceding administrative unit, yeah I agree, it's better to leave it off the infobox. About the formatting for the settlements list, how do you want it to look like? I'm not an expert in Wikipedia's markup but I still might be able to help add in the code to make that formatting. Dan the Animator 23:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Also, on connecting articles to Wikidata items: This isn’t a thing on mobile, but if you’re on desktop, there should be a button in the lower left part of the sidebar on the left side of the screen under "Languages" that says "Add links". If you go there, you can just enter the language and name of the article equivalent in another language, and it'll automatically connect things for you. HappyWith (talk) 00:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- After testing various add-ons, modifications to the template code, and searching through other Wikipedia templates and template help pages, I haven't been able to figure out how to minimize the size of the bullet points yet either. From the explanations I've seen on Wikipedia and other websites regarding this, one possible way to make the bullet points smaller is to create a new separate template that utilizes CSS styling functions to modify the bullet size. Then, this template could be called upon instead of the {{bulleted list}}, automatically making the bullets per the specified dimensions in the new CSS function. I still don't understand though how and why the population and area variables automatically have a unique styling. I'll continue searching and testing different things until I find out a solution but I likely won't be able to solve it. About the Wikidata items though: thanks! I tried out what you suggested and I think I understand how to do it now. It does take a little while to connect new pages to others so I might leave it until after I make the articles. Many thanks for telling me how to do it and sorry I couldn't help more with the formatting issue. Dan the Animator 01:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Mass creation of stubs on Ukrainian hromada's
editHi,
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. You currently appear to be engaged in the mass creation of articles on hromadas, based on a boilerplate and referenced to a single primary source. Such mass creation can be disruptive, and if you wish to continue creating large quantities of short, similar articles on this topic (or any topic) you should first see if there is a consensus to do so, or if the community would prefer this content be provided in a different manner.
This can be done by opening a discussion at WP:BRFA, and explaining that you are opening a request in line with the instructions at WP:MASSCREATE.
Thank you, BilledMammal (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hey BilledMammal,
- Thanks for the message! Regarding my contributions, I am indeed mass creating articles. I read through the WP:BRFA page you linked but I don't think it's the appropriate policy in this case: that page is a request page for bots (e.g. programs) that create/modify pages but all the articles I've created have been done manually (no bot assistance at all). I agree with your point though that it is good to see whether the consensus of the community (which is probably primarily Ukraine & Geography Wikiproject members) matches the format of the hromada articles I've made up to this point.
- The WP:MASSCREATE you linked appears to mostly be directed to the use of bots or semi-automated tools but there is a line that refers to WP:MEATBOT editing, which would be the more appropriate Wikipedia policy in this case (I think). For WP:MEATBOT, the section doesn't really say much regarding what is the criteria for having a BRFA for direct-editor mass creations but it does say
Human editors are expected to pay attention to the edits they make, and ensure that they do not sacrifice quality in the pursuit of speed or quantity.
I am reasonably careful with every page I make and check over each article before publishing and include all the fundamental necessary info for each hromada article. I'm guessing than it's more a concern of the use of a single primary source which may ostensibly reduce the quality of the articles?
- The WP:MASSCREATE you linked appears to mostly be directed to the use of bots or semi-automated tools but there is a line that refers to WP:MEATBOT editing, which would be the more appropriate Wikipedia policy in this case (I think). For WP:MEATBOT, the section doesn't really say much regarding what is the criteria for having a BRFA for direct-editor mass creations but it does say
- Based on the checklist from WP:PRIMARY that you linked, I think the hromada articles that I've made in their current state would fall under
straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge
since they're simply a list of names together with numbers and a few basic facts representing simple statistics/info (all of which is clearly labeled and listed directly on the Ukrainian gov. website page, albeit in Ukrainian). Many of the hromada articles on the Ukrainian language Wikipedia likewise rely solely on government sources for verifying the information about the hromadas (here's a list of hromada articles on the Ukrainian language Wikipedia for examples). One thing the Ukrainian language Wikipedia articles do that I don't though is include various governmental sources from different parts of the Ukrainian government for verification. If it helps, I could add in some of these additional sources (such as the Verkhovna Rada source and other gov. agency sources that list/mention the hromadas) into the articles I've since made and into any future articles.
- Based on the checklist from WP:PRIMARY that you linked, I think the hromada articles that I've made in their current state would fall under
- Aside of verification, typically the reason an article shouldn't have solely primary sources is per WP:GNG. I was able to find an independent, secondary source (from an NGO based in Ukraine) that includes all of the hromadas (linked here), although unnamed, (could be used to verify the existence and location of the hromadas) after a relatively brief search and I am certain there's other sources on the web/shelves that reference the existence/essence of the hromadas but I think WP:GEOLAND should cover this case due to the general rule that
Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low.
Although not official policy, this essay also explains it, where hromadas, being 3rd level subdivisions of Ukraine, would warrant individual articles (though any further subdivisions past the 3rd level arguably would not).
- Aside of verification, typically the reason an article shouldn't have solely primary sources is per WP:GNG. I was able to find an independent, secondary source (from an NGO based in Ukraine) that includes all of the hromadas (linked here), although unnamed, (could be used to verify the existence and location of the hromadas) after a relatively brief search and I am certain there's other sources on the web/shelves that reference the existence/essence of the hromadas but I think WP:GEOLAND should cover this case due to the general rule that
- While the hromada articles I made should be of good enough quality to meet the above established policies/guidelines, I agree with you in support of a consensus-forming discussion on the formatting/style, nature, and any other aspect of these articles. I know there's already an established consensus within the English Wikipedia on the naming of hromada articles so there should be some sort of way to get a broad discussion like this started. I'm not sure though exactly where would be the best venue/page to have this discussion. I know you suggested WP:BRFA but I really don't think that's the right place for a broad discussion like this and a discussion that has no direct connection to bots since I haven't and have no intention of using a bot to make future articles. My instinct tells me the Wikiproject talk page for Ukraine would be an ideal place, and other Wikiprojects' member bases can be alerted to the discussion there but wondering what you think about it. Sorry for making my reply so long btw but I thought it would be good to lay out my reasons and stuff. Hopefully I addressed all the points you raised about the articles (not sure if it was a Twinkle auto message or not but in any case) and def let me know if you have any questions or comments about anything and many thanks again for telling me about this! :)
- First, thank you for such a detailed response!
- There are two concerns about mass creation. First, that the community may decide that there is a better way of presenting the data - for example, in a table instead of individual articles - and if it does decide that it can be a long and time consuming process to address the past mass creation, when it would have been easy to do at the start of the process.
- Second, as you say, the references solely to primary sources, which is against what stated at WP:PRIMARY.
- With that all that said, your situation seems quite ambiguous at the moment, so if you want to proceed without discussion then that is your choice, or even just a discussion at WikiProject Ukraine. As a general recommendation, however, in your position I would try to demonstrate WP:GNG compliance when creating the articles, to future proof them against possible changes in policy as happened with mass created sports articles. BilledMammal (talk) 04:56, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- While the hromada articles I made should be of good enough quality to meet the above established policies/guidelines, I agree with you in support of a consensus-forming discussion on the formatting/style, nature, and any other aspect of these articles. I know there's already an established consensus within the English Wikipedia on the naming of hromada articles so there should be some sort of way to get a broad discussion like this started. I'm not sure though exactly where would be the best venue/page to have this discussion. I know you suggested WP:BRFA but I really don't think that's the right place for a broad discussion like this and a discussion that has no direct connection to bots since I haven't and have no intention of using a bot to make future articles. My instinct tells me the Wikiproject talk page for Ukraine would be an ideal place, and other Wikiprojects' member bases can be alerted to the discussion there but wondering what you think about it. Sorry for making my reply so long btw but I thought it would be good to lay out my reasons and stuff. Hopefully I addressed all the points you raised about the articles (not sure if it was a Twinkle auto message or not but in any case) and def let me know if you have any questions or comments about anything and many thanks again for telling me about this! :)
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Your withdrawn query to edit map
editHey Dantheanimator,
As you may have noticed, I have added back your self-reverted comment on Talk:International reactions to the October 2023 Gaza–Israel conflict#Map Shading: Disputed/Occupied territories (see here). As I said, I considered whether you may have had a good reason for the self-reversion, but could not think of one that could not be indicated by simply striking through the original comment. If you think that there is valid reason to remove it again, please let me know. Thanks, Renerpho (talk) 23:47, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Renerpho,
- Thanks for messaging me! I removed it given that the map (which the comment was about) was taken off the article already so I thought my comment wasn't necessary anymore. Thanks for striking it through tho: I completely forgot that that was the standard (I haven't taken part in wiki discussions in a while now) so apologies for that! Given that the map is still not on the article, I think it's best to keep it stricken for now (if the original, unmodified map ever gets re-added to the article tho, feel free to unstrike my comment if you want) Thanks again for letting me know and sorry again for taking it off!
- Best, Dan the Animator 01:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think that map has been removed and re-added half a dozen times by now. I'd be surprised if it remains gone forever. Renerpho (talk) 01:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hromadas of Kremenets Raion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hromadas of Ternopil Raion
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Some doubts about your tags
editHi Dantheanimator, I saw that you added a lot of maintenance tags to some pages that happen to be on my watchlist. I didn't check all of them, but some of the ones I checked motivated me to take this to your talk page. E.g. the "update" tags at Battle of Avdiivka (2017) and 2006 anti-NATO protests in Feodosia, but also at least some of the "citation needed" at Revolution of Dignity. Please remember that there is a thing called WP:TAGBOMBING and also something like "just do it". All the best, Rsk6400 (talk) 15:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400: Thanks for the message! About the tags, I agree that I've been adding a lot but I wouldn't consider them tagbombing. Almost all of the tags I put I think make sense and are warranted for the quality of the articles. Regarding the specific articles you checked:
- For Battle of Avdiivka (2017), it definitely should have some sort of aftermath/legacy section, or at the very least have clear-cut information about the end of the battle and the immediate events after. As-is, the last few sentences give the impression that the battle died down but didn't end (which the infobox would indicate otherwise). A one-to-two sentence mention of the current battle with a link to it couldn't hurt imo, tho I'm not against just having the hatnote and nothing else.
- After taking a second look, I agree the update tag probably isn't necessary on the 2006 anti-NATO protests in Feodosia so apologies for that (thanks for adding in the NPOV tag btw!)
- For the cn tags on Revolution of Dignity, I don't think I added in too many (six by my count) for the relative size of the article. Usually if the page is swamped by cn tags, I'd just put on an orange tag but I think there isn't enough cn tags to justify the switch. About the need for the cn tags in the first place: per WP:V, even if the info/claim is non-controversial, it should still have a citation so that a reader could verify it (and to ensure it's not WP:OR) - except in the case of the lede, where usually whatever is there should be based on similar/duplicate facts/claims made in the body (everything in the body should be cited)). In any case, the main reason I put the cn tags is for myself so when I go back to the page eventually, I can just ctrl-f to find all the places where I have to add sourcing rather than sift through the article, which is a lot more time-consuming.
- I definitely know what you mean about tagging instead of editing although, don't worry, my intention is not to simply tag them and leave it for others. I've been making a personalized list of articles within the Russo-Ukrainian topic on my sandbox page (under the Russo-Ukrainian War articles (process) section) and trying to organize them based on their quality with the eventual goal of bringing all of them to GA-status (right now, I have an active GAN for the Prelude article). GA is a really slow process though and there's a lot of articles in the topic so to help myself and hopefully other editors too, I put the orange tags to remind myself of the major issues (if any) in the article (in the case of the cn and other mnr tags, they help with the actual process of fixing the article by letting be just ctrl-f rather than read through the article). I'm still in the process of going through the war topic articles so chances are I'll be putting in more tags (sorry in advance!) but once I'm done organizing my list, I'll go back and address the issues in each article. I know it's a bit personalized and definitely opinionated as to how it's organized but, if you want, feel free to use/edit my list as well. Btw, there's a whole bunch of articles I've noticed that are good quality but a relatively short and I've been meaning to ask another editor for their opinions on each one and whether they should be expanded or are good as-is so if you're not too busy and able to, definitely let me know (any referrals of other editors I could ask would also be hugely appreciated). Anyways, thanks for the message and always feel free let me know if there's any tag you're iffy about or want to collab or anything else! Best, Dan the Animator 18:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Your GA nomination of Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Your GA nomination of Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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A barnstar for you!
editThe Ukraine Barnstar | ||
As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, I want to extend my thanks on the projects behalf for getting the article Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine to GA status. To achieve this for such an important topic, still during the war, is a great accomplishment, and you have likewise improved Wikipedia's coverage of Ukraine for the better. Slava Ukraini! ~ Johnson524 07:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you Johnson524! :) While I appreciate the barnstar, I want to thank Cerebellum without who I wouldn't have been able to pass the article, PenangLion who typed up most of the high-quality content in the article when it was still a current event, and all the other editors who've contributed to the article that made the GA possible. Many thanks to everyone and Slava Ukraini! Dan the Animator 18:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw, before I forget, in case you're interested, I also started a new Russo-Ukrainian war-related GAN for the article NAFO (group). Cheers, Dan the Animator 18:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for telling me! I'm not sure if I have the time to do the GA review myself right now, but I wish you the best on it 💪 Johnson524 22:45, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw, before I forget, in case you're interested, I also started a new Russo-Ukrainian war-related GAN for the article NAFO (group). Cheers, Dan the Animator 18:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)