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NCIS franchise

Base on your recent edits, you might be interested in the discussions at Talk:NCIS (franchise)#JAG and WT:TV#What constitutes a franchise?. Your input would be appreciated. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Yikes! Davejohnsan (talk) 14:53, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

It's not as bad as it looks. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll give it a look tonight. (Edit to add: Whoops, I forgot about our time difference. It's noon in my time zone right now; I'll be back home in about six or seven hours.) Davejohnsan (talk) 20:07, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@AussieLegend: Here's the way I see it: Wikipedia defines a franchise as having "several derivative works hav[ing] been produced from an original work of media." NCIS: LA and NCIS: New Orleans both originate from the original NCIS. JAG did not originate from NCIS, but it is definitely related to NCIS and does deserve some recognition for creating the franchise, but to say that it is necessarily "part" of the franchise in the same way that the NCIS spinoffs are...is kind of a stretch to me. Does this conform to any definitive stances on this issue? Davejohnsan (talk) 02:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

That's pretty much in line with what my argument has been, and what media franchise says, but one editor is taking "related" to mean "is part of the franchise". --AussieLegend (✉) 03:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I think the way the page is in its current state (as of 13:54 UTC, 20 January 2016) is fine. It labels JAG as the originating series, but not as part of the NCIS franchise, which was created several years after its final broadcast. I'll continue watching the conversation. Davejohnsan (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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mistake

u made a mistake i put it in the list of criminal minds character page and added the <only include> part so it can go the criminal minds page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.184.105.58 (talk) 21:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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About the Law & Order page...

I just think if TV shows like Law & Order have episodes that cross over to other TV shows, it should be noted on their pages. --StewieBaby05 (talk) 23:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I know that's what you think. What I don't know why is you think it's relevant to go into great detail about episodes from other series on the main page. The episode section is a general, brief overview of the entire season. It's not the place to put great emphasis on other shows. Davejohnsan (talk) 00:04, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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You are invited in the discussion here regarding episode appearance count in TV show franchise pages. BattleshipMan (talk) 15:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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"per MOS"

Please stop removing content and just saying "per MOS". That really is not helpful. You should give a link to the applicable MOS, and preferably the section where it supposedly says it. Now, MOS:TVCAST says to not give episode counts. It does not say not to give which episode(s) an actor appears in. If an actor only appears in a few episodes (1-3), it is helpful (and permissible) to give which ones they are. —Musdan77 (talk) 17:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction on TVCAST. Davejohnsan (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Family Guy "Excellence in Broadcasting" Edits

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I hope you're well :-). I'm Dana, I'm an irrelevant young adult from Canada and I like to watch Netflix. Some context, to not seem out of the blue. I'm contacting you with regards to the Family Guy episode changes you and I both made, and I mean no harm, only curiosity. I was searching for the Family Guy episode that featured a joke about The Office, because I really enjoy both shows. I found the page for "Excellence in Broadcasting," and followed the instructions to go to S9E2. I browsed through Netflix and didn't find it there, but instead as E3. I decided to take advantage of how accessible editing is through Wikipedia and made the changes. I checked again today, curious to see what happened, if my change had been approved, and I saw that you changed it back. Hi! I'm here now, and I was wondering how the episode listing could be different between us. I'm not sure how to attach a photo but if you wish to contact me I can send you it by other means.

Again, I mean no harm and I hope to clear this up and add this to my list of "small accomplishments" to read over in existential crises. I don't know how to use this messaging feature completely but if you feel so inclined to respond to me, email me back at cerv5620@mylaurier.ca.

Take care! 99.237.60.73 (talk) 20:04, 9 May 2016 (UTC) Dana

Hi, Dana. Netflix lists the double-length episodes of Family Guy in two separate parts, which throws off the numbering scheme of the entire season. The first episode of season 9 is a double-length episode that Netflix treats as two separate episodes, even though both parts air as one on the Fox network. This issue has also caused issues with seasons 6 and 13, which both have at least one double-length episode that counts as one but for some reason appears on Netflix as two. Adding further confusion are the 100- and 200-episode specials, which are included on the official DVDs but aren't counted as official episodes. The goal here isn't to address whether Netflix is right on this issue, but to maintain consistency and consensus across the website here. If the consensus is to change season 9's episode count so that the two-part premiere is counted as two separate episodes, then the rest of the pages focusing on individual episodes will be updated to reflect that change. Davejohnsan (talk) 21:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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undo of my contribution

Hi, could you please tell me, why you undid my contribution/change on the Grey's Anatomy episode? (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Good_Mourning_%28Grey%27s_Anatomy%29&action=history) Thanks a lot! --Met-Haus-Allee-M (talk) 21:32, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

@Met-Haus-Allee-M: See WP:TRIVIA. Davejohnsan (talk) 13:47, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

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Sheriff Callie not renewed for third season

Hey Davejohnsan,

I just thought Sheriff Callie's Wild West was not renewed for a third season.

Read here: Sheriff Callie's Wild West Says Goodbye

BarryBenson (talk) 10:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

First off, that website is not an official affiliate of the Disney Channel network, and second the wording of that tweet is, at best, ambiguous. It doesn't answer the question of whether the production of the second season has ended or the series itself. I was also unable to find any official sources confirming the series was canceled. It is not uncommon for television series to go on hiatus for a year or two. You will need to find a different, and more reliable, source to confirm cancellation. Thanks for reaching out to me, by the way. Davejohnsan (talk) 14:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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Honda Civic

Multiple heights and widths make the added info inaccurate. The length is incorrect. Your edit to change values is in poor faith. Cleanupmdx (talk) 05:36, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Also changing the infobox values without a source is a poor faith edit.Cleanupmdx (talk) 05:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

EXCUSE ME? I didn't change any values. You deleted content off a page without explaining why, and now you're accusing me of making an edit in bad faith? Somebody needs a dose of reality. Davejohnsan (talk) 04:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Edit: By the way, just so we're clear, you removed the metric and English measurements and left the latter only. Both sets need to be there. If any particular measurements are inaccurate, then that's not an issue. Fix it, but don't just delete it. Davejohnsan (talk) 05:02, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

I removed it because the technical specs are misleading since there are multiple widths and heights. I have zero responsibility to fix bad information however I will remove it.Cleanupmdx (talk) 07:26, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Again, you are missing the point here. Removing the metric measurements is not the solution here. While it may not be your responsibility to "fix bad information," using that as an excuse to delete content is just lazy. Davejohnsan (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

I am not being disruptive.

I am only pointing out that the sixth season of Sanford and Son has two episodes that did not originally air on Friday at 8:00 pm. If you have a problem with that, you obviously have a problem with me. --TVBuff90 (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

No, I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with your lack of communication, however. I reverted your edit with a valid reason, and instead of coming to my talk page or going to the article's talk page, you decided to engage in a edit war (for which I share equal blame). I make an effort to revert others' edit for objective reasons, not subjective. Wikipedia is a not a TV guide and it is not essential information to list what specific date and time any particular series airs. Davejohnsan (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@TVBuff90: Okay, I can see you did write on the article's talk page. I didn't see it - my fault. However, once again, you are just arguing against policy without giving any compelling argument or citing a policy or guideline that would prove or compel me (or probably anyone else)π in a different direction. "I realize it's not a TV Guide, but I still think [the information should be noted]." You don't have to like the policy, but not liking it isn't necessarily grounds to ignore it. Davejohnsan (talk) 22:18, 1 January 2017 (UTC)