DavyJAllan

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Personal welcome

Hi Davy, though that you should probably get the official welcome template as well as a personal note. Nice work in adding in the statistical details to the Edinburgh Derby, Hearts and Hibs- I hope you don't mind my slight adjustments to the formatting.

In response to your message: obviously londonhearts.com is acknowledged as the most comprehensive Hearts website about, and I wouldn't imagine that you would want to make wikipedia rival that, but anything you contribute to improve wikipedia's Hearts or Scotland content would be great.

Statistically speaking, you might want to create an improved stats section for Hearts, such as User:Qwghlm has done with Arsenal, linking expanded separate articles back to the main page (see Arsenal F.C. seasons, List of Arsenal F.C. players or Arsenal F.C. records as examples).

If you were prepared to add any further photos these too would be particularly beneficial to improving articles, be it Hearts' history or individual player biographies. The Tom Purdie photo really adds to the early part of the Hearts article. Wikipedia obviously has strict criteria upon copyright but it looks like you are aware of that from the pictures you added.

Personally, I tend to focus on creating individual player biographies, with the infobox containing whatever statistical content is required. That said, season by season appearance breakdowns (see Garry O'Connor) or a list of their international goals (Alan Shearer or Edgaras Jankauskas) have been added to some bios, so there is scope for further statistical additions.

One section I was thinking the Hearts page really misses is a notable former players section (tend to agree with most on the londonhearts website but not all) although this would need criteria defined on the article's talk page, while several players that would be included are currently "redlinks".

I thinks its fair to say that the Scotland content is considerably better than the Hearts content at the moment, however there are still several notable players without an article - including Bobby Walker - so potential there too.

One caveat: Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy might cause you a problem, linking to external londonhearts articles of which you are the author. However, as long as this is not excessive, I think it should be fine, given the number or articles created by other editors that list londonhearts as a source/external link, which clearly emphasises londonhearts' position as a reliable source.

Anyway, I hope that some of this helps and look forward to any future contributuions. And if you aren't tired already of hearing it at JKB or Scottishleague.net, congrats on the scale and quality of the londonhearts website. Caledonian Place 16:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Personal welcome

Just getting used to the Wiki formatting and options. Thanks for the minor formatting fixes.

I'll generate some summaries and a list of notable players.

DavyJAllan 04:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Summary things

Hi Davy. It was becoming a necessity to be honest as the hearts page had reached 63 kilobytes in length, past the 50k size guideline. I was just thinking about leaving you a message of other things you'd be able to add from your database. In particular, a list of managers such as on the Chelsea page would be good, with played, won lost, etc stats.

I was also thinking that the notable players could also be moved to a separate page with a link through the Template:Heart of Midlothian F.C.. A longer History, linking back to a summary on the main page would also be good but massively time consuming and I don't think I could face taking it on at the mo. Caledonian Place 17:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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Barney Battles

Aaargh! I'd just about finished writing a bio on him then you turn up this and its back to the drawing board for me! Great article though.

Incidentally, I don't know if you've come across anything from searching the Scotsman archives but Kerrydalestreet.com's article on Barney senior claims Celitc donated the stand takings from the 1905 Scotland-Ireland match to the Battles family. It also claims Barney jnr presented his dad's League medal to Jock Stein in a 1966 ceremony. Also, Holy Cross Academy's site has an early pic of him in their school team.

Good work on the EoS local cups btw. Caledonian Place 20:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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