User talk:Deeptrivia/Archive12

welcome back

For Malwa and now Ladakh, the FA Medal belongs to you - now you are really back, in all your shining glory! Rama's Arrow 06:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi main page

Unfortunately, these boxes on the Hindi wiki's main page are dependent upon the font size of the browser for their dimensions. Btw, could you plz tell me what vertical and horizintal distances are you talking about? I could still try.Cygnus_hansa 22:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Glossary of terms in Hinduism

Hi Deepak, I know you are busy in writing Ladakh and you are doing a great job btw but I have to ask some questions about this list. I am trying to make it a FL, I have completed all the blanks and need to cite references now. However, I am not sure if the glossary is detailed enough. It is fairly big but there are many devs/devis/philosophic terms and other terms not listed there which should be. The problem is that the list may become too big. Do you think I should split it into sections such as "deities," "philosophy" etc. or split it into different pages so there is for example Glossary of terms in Hindu philospohy etc. or another method is to split it up like the spirituality list which is alphabetical. Best wishes for Ladakh. Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Indian Maps

Hi! I invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject India Maps. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

While browsing for Ladakh images, have you come across (and remember) any good source of images of Darjeeling? I just moved that article to PR. Some images have been deleted from the commons (I got the permission from authors, and the images will be re-inserted in the article after I upload those in Wikipedia). Ladakh has so many magnificent images!! I wish we had at least some for Darjeeling :( Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I did some browsing through FlickR and collected some images. However, except a few (those were used in the article, now have been deleted and will be there in the article soon) none was comparable to those in Ladakh. Really, Ladakh has GREAT images. By the way, have a look in Darjeeling and leave some comments in the PR, as you feel necessary.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Indian art

I found your name among prominent WikiProject Hinduism contributors, so I thought I would ask you this. A relative of mine recently attended a thread ceremony of a coworker of hers, and each guest got this trinket as sort of a "party favor" - I wanted to know if it has any religious significance or if it's just art. It looks like a small table - it's a metal square about 15 cm x 15 cm. At each corner there are short legs, the ends of which resemble the paws of an animal. The design on the surface of the square consists of a four-sided shape where each side looks like the dome of the Taj Mahal. The shape is blue, the background is white, and the whole thing is covered with blue, green, red and gold leaves and flowers. It says "Shree Charbhuja" on the bottom, which I assume is the name of the store that made it. Thanks for your help, DLand^TALK 06:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Inote

Inote or invisible notes are used for inline referencing. Syntax {{inote|http://www.wikipedia.org|wikipedia-1}}. cite.php is preferred by many these days as the disadvantage of inotes is that it not very visible. Use a healthy mix. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

SVG images

I see what's wrong with this image: Image:Ladakhtemp.svg. You've embedded a raster image with it and tried to upload the embedded image. That's why it's not redering correctly. This is the correct procedure:

• Import the image to a new document.
• Upscale the raster version to about 1000px wide. Don't worry if it gets pixellated.
• In the Document Preferences (SHIFT-CTRL-D), ensure that the page size is set to the image size.
• Make a new layer
• Cut the image, and paste it in the new layer. Align the image to fit correctly on the page. Lock the layer.
• Make a new layer(s) and start tracing.
• Once finished with the tracing, delete the locked layer which contains the image.
• If you've used text, make sure that you select all textboxes and Unflow it. (SHIFT+CTRL+W)
• Use only generic fonts such as Sans and Serif.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 09:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh spelling

la dwags is correct for Tibetan - I don't speak Ladakhi or know if its spelling is standardized 69.203.102.25 04:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Antikythera mechanism

There is no doubt about the Antikythera mechanism being an analog computer. Please read the related discussion on the main page as well. I will revert your changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.194.121.86 (talk • contribs)

Images

1. Avoid loading images with English text to commons. Upload two images: The one in en: should be with English text, and a blank image of the same, with a pointer to en: goes to commons:
2. Two maps on ladakh need to be svgfied. Are you up to it? Tip: To shade regions you would need to have a closed path.
3. Criterion 2a is in the news on WT:FAC. Suggest you start looking for redundant phrases.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 15:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

No idea about the shifting fonts. PS 1. the thick border looks ugly 2. The source image needs to be referred to. =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh

I have already explained in the talk page. perhaps you should have waited a bit more before asking me to explain my edits.Bharatveer 05:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Deep, I've been following the discussion and will continue to do for some more time. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you familiar with précis writing? It should help clear up the copyediting issues and section size. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you Persian

Salam. I saw a poem from Sheykh Bahayee above. Are you Persian? And maybe you are interested in Mystisism? --Sa.vakilian 02:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Ladakh History

Yes, the deletion of so many names (and also further condensation) was good. It reads lucid now. I shall go through the Geography now and try to think any specific suggestion. A request: Please try to go through Darjeeling once, it is in Peer review now. I am not sure if I shall be able to attend suggestions in PR right away, as I am a bit busy now. However, the suggestions in PR will be taken care of soon. Also see if you want to change something there.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I see I had requested you for Darjeeling in the past also! And u commented in my talk page. I simply missed that! Sorry....--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh geography

Ok, I read the Geography. Well, in gist, (please do not mind) it is very boring. The problem is while reading I could not visualise the whole thing. If you want to retain the section as it is now, a good map is necessary, that will point all notable places/ranges. Otherwise, it is becoming difficult to visualise. The first two paragrapha (geological origin) is ok. The second para ends with Zozila and Nunkun - ok. Then the problem starts.

• "Suru and Zanskar valleys form a great trough at the foot of the northern, heavily glaciated flank of the Himalayas, while opposite rise the mountains of the Zanskar range" - very tough. I have some sort of gross idea of the geography there, still, I found it difficult. Opposite to what? I mean does it mean Zanskar is on south of the valley? And does Himalaya run north of the Ladakh totally? (well, Himalaya is to the south, but while reading it does not sound so) I mean till, say, Siachen? Or Himalaya ends somewhere just more northish-north-west? (Hope I am clear in voicing the point :) )
• Does the region have a geographical boundary? I mean X range in the north, Y range to the west etc?
• "The Suru river forms the western and northern boundary of the Zanskar range" - so what? What is the significance of Zanskar range? Is it a boundary of Ladakh? Or within Ladakh? Yes, Zanskar valley is within Ladakh, but the range?
• "Zanskar consists of troughs of two rivers, the Stod (Doda) and the Lungnak (Tsarap Lingti). One of the Lungnak's main tributaries rises as the Tsarap far away to the east in Rupshu." - you mean Zanskar river - right? or the valley?
• After reading the fourt paragraph, my impression is the river Zanskar is a river that is more or less parallel to Indus and after some meetings with other rivers, flows into Himachal Pradesh. The description is complex. In the next paragraph, it is clear that Zanskar river meets Indus. But iMO the complex description of all the tributaries of Zanskar is not good. See if that can be changed, or, better, can be removed - as those are making the complexity.
• "Zanskar suffers heavy snowfall, and the Pensi-la opens only in June, and is blocked again in mid-October" - Zanskar river, valley or range?
• "Within Ladakh it forms the northern boundary wall of the Indus valley, though when the river enters Ladakh at Demchok, some 250 km (155 mi) south-east of Leh, it is actually flowing along the foot of the northern flank of these granite mountains, which it crosses by a great gorge close to its confluence with the Hanle rive" ok. I think I could visualise this. The Indus forms the North boundary of Indus valley. However, initially, it is further north, even more north to the Ladakh range. And the river actually comes south of the range (and hence immediately north of the valley) only at the gorge. Right? It is difficult, very complex.
• "Pang-gong range runs parallel to the Ladakh range some 100 km northwest from Chushul, along the southern shore of the Pang-gong Lake. It is divided from the main range by the Tangtse river." - what is the main range? Is there 2 Panggong ranges? One main and oone secondary? Or the main range refers to Ladakh range?
• "The Shayok river rises just below the Karakoram Pass. The region comprising the valley of Shayok and Nubra rivers is known as Nubra. The Karakoram range in Ladakh is not as mighty as in Baltistan. North of the Karakoram lies the Kunlun. Thus, between Leh and eastern Central Asia, there is a triple barrier — Ladakh range, Karakoram range, and Kunlun. Nevertheless, a major trade route was established between Leh and Yarkand." - ok, this is ok. That could be visualised.

Well, I must say, I had the aforesaid observations by just reading, without any map. After that I saw a map (in the article Zanskar), when the things became slightly more clear. In gist, the language is very complex. And some minute details could be removed. More later. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh

Hi, thanks for your note. Looks like a good article—I've edited quite a few India-related articles, and like doing so (despite the abuse I've endured recently from Blacksun concerning the IIT article).

But work is ramping up for me, so better after 30 June.

Cheers

Tony 14:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh map

Image:Ladakh1.svg borders on a copyvio. Remember, geographical boundaries are information, and information cannot be copyrighted. What is copyrighted are the map styles. Your map looks almost like a duplicate of the map. Try changing the styles, colours and details to make it as "original" as possible. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I can barely read the text on Image:Ladakh2.svg. Suggest you use colours recommended by WikiProject Maps, use your own symbols, and remove unnecessary information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nichalp (talk • contribs)

The text can be larger. The "North" symbol can be changed. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Nun Kun

Surprisingly today I noticed that you started a Nun-Kun page just a few days after I started a larger page Nun Kun. Might I suggest we turn your page into a redirect and add the little bit of extra info to the Nun Kun page. Cheers ww2censor 15:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. What about your info about the line of control? I was in Kargil and one can see the ridge where we were told fighting took place. ww2censor 15:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and Help

Thank you for the welcome.

I am wondering why, but the changes I had made in the External Links section have been undone by some other user.

I am new to Wiki and am not sure about things, was my contribution wrong? against the code of ethics or what? I am at a loss!

Please have a look at the Kashmir page.

Thanks!

Wullar 18:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

External Links

Thanks for letting me know. I have added the links again and they show up as External Links. I hope this time they won't be deleted. Let me just find my way around this place and I will try to do my best.

Wullar 22:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh map

It looks a bit too crowded to me for FP status. How about keeping only the peaks above 6,000 m in height? =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

ethnicity

Out of curiosity I ask, are you Indian? Or are you Persian? Afghan Historian 04:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

very intrigued!

Hi.. This is Shahana.. the Shahana Goswami who was being talked about.. Srijit's sister.. who is Lethe?? how does he know my brother? And you.. are you from SPV? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.224.26.67 (talk • contribs) 10:33, June 24, 2006.

Hi! Lethe is a one of the most knowledgeable editors of wikipedia. He is also an administrator. He said he was Srijit's close friend. Why don't you go ahead and ask him about it? I graduated from SPV in 2000. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Vrinda! You can email me at lethe at charter dot net. -lethe ^{talk +} 13:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Apology

oh i am so sorry ,i did not know tht..thx deep..ill take care in the future..--kshitij 11:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks

hey.. thanks.. though I must say I'm curious to know who you are as well deeptrivia.. you're not that much of a senior of mine.. I might remember you.. anyway.. take care. Have got in touch with lethe.. Shahana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.26.67 (talk • contribs)

Thanks

Thanks a lot for the barnstar.Cygnus_hansa 20:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Blog Mav Rick

No problem, I'll follow him around for a bit and see what he does, reverting as necessary. Goodness knows what his problem is, he seems to be making some vaild edits here and there but ruins it with this superpower fixation.

Xdamr^talk 17:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Locator map accuracy

Thanks for the tip. I will check out the discrepancy. - Ganeshk (talk) 18:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Out of the 71% that are literate, 56% are males, and 44% are females. What is wrong in that statement? - Ganeshk (talk) 19:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you please give me exact sentence how that paragraph should be worded? - Ganeshk (talk) 19:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Changed the program per your suggestion, see Bhadreswar. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

If you are still around, could you confirm if Bhander is correct. - Ganeshk (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

• No, City, Type, State, Disrict, Total Pop, Males, Females, Pop 0-6, Males, Females, Literate Pop, Males, Females
• 659,Bhander,N.P.,Madhya Pradesh,Datia,20667,11043,9624,3311,1784,1527,14060,8419,5641

- Ganeshk (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Alot

I checked the locator map issue that you pointed out on Alot. But according to this map (#223 on the map), it looks close to accurate placement of the dot. Let me know your thoughts. - Ganeshk (talk) 17:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ancient India

Hello. I am sure that you are fine, and I find that you have been doing great here! Please contribute to the above page. I expect that the contents created by me shall be suitably modified / updated by a number of editors. Thanks. --Bhadani 12:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

George W. Bush PR

Hi DT - I wonder if I could interest you in reviewing this article, as I need all the help I can get in making it an FA. Please do check it out. Rama's Arrow 19:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Muhammad Iqbal

Hi DT - I want to send this article to FAC, and I request that you please have a look at it, and let me know if there is anything I should work on. This will be a big help to me. Rama's Arrow 23:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh

"The 2.99% figure is for Leh city (not district), and it comes from the 1981 census. It is useless ..."

Leh District .

Pls see that it is not for Leh city , but it is TEHSIL or DISTRICT. and 1981 census is not "useless" as you say. Ofcourse i will try to find the 2001 census but till then i will re- add the tag again.Bharatveer 12:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• You have to leave a space between the opening and closing ref tags. That was causing the errors on the page. I've corrected them. Regards, thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

"Citation needed" means that there is a statement in the article that is not supported by a reference, and it needs to be supported by citing its source. The statement for which you put that tag already has a citation. "Citation needed" tag cannot be used for missing information that you want in the article, but does not exist. I won't remove the tag right now because there's no point -- you might just put it back, but please try to learn proper use of tags. If you don't remove it by the time I clean up the article next, I'll have to do it myself".

I added the citation need tag for the "MISSING 5 % of the population" , for that your reference will not suffice. Pls see Citation.From that "If you see information that you believe needs a reference, your options include: Finding one (best) ;Failing that, either:Tagging with ,Moving unreferenced material to talk page with note asking for reference ,Asking editor who contributed material to provide a reference ,Removing the information ".

So providing bogus reference will not do. Since you have asked me to learn "proper" use of tags, In order to satisfy you i have added a different tag . Hope it helps. Bharatveer 15:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Help!

Hello Bhadaniji! Could you help me address the concerns of User:Bharatveer on the Ladakh page. I don't think I am fully capable of understanding them. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I will carefully see the edits. But, one thing I can assure you: some people do not believe in the integrity of wikipedia and will do all the possible damage to the Project. --Bhadani 18:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Kashmir mountains

Hi, I refer to your reference edits to K2 and some other Kashmir mountains. While what you added is absolutely correct, I am concerned about the proliferation and multiple repetition of these references, on both sides of the Kashmir line of control. Pakistan claims many places currently under Indian administration. K2 is listed as being in Pakistan on many Wikipedia pages. Please see Talk:List of highest mountains#Kashmir border dispute. Viewfinder 19:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Iqbal FAC

Hey - I've started Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Muhammad Iqbal. Please check it out! Rama's Arrow 01:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bullockcart.gif listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Bullockcart.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 10:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Hindi WP

YOur message to me: Hi Bhadaniji. I was wondering if Indic support is what is preventing you from contributing to Hindi WP. If that's the only reason, I'll be happy to transliterate articles for you, if you write them in Roman script. I think the Hindi wikipedia is in a seriously bad condition. deeptrivia 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Me: Yes. The position is that I can not type in Devnagri script even if I instal the indic script. In Roman script I can type fast. I want to create all the required articles in Hindi wikipedia. We will do that - I shal;l start the work in consultation with you and others. Let us make the Hindi wikipedia better. I am ready to do what ever is possible. Thanks for your message. --Bhadani 17:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Iqbal

Hi DT - there seem to be two editors who're adding POV edits, which I am forced to keep reverting. Could you please keep an eye out? I fear I may have broken WP:3RR, so being unable to do more. Rama's Arrow 19:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, Rama's arrow has reverted more than three times. Also, isnt it the goal of Wikipedia to have the most accurate, unbiased information available? All I've been saying is that we should have a serious open DISCUSSION rather than the cat and mouse game of reverting. --Disinterested 19:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but user:Omerlives is doing it now. Btw, I reported myself[1] but happily I won't be blocked. Rama's Arrow 19:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)