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Indian titles

Hi Dianna. So many Indian names are given with titles and things like Shri, Swamiji, etc, and I feel the urge to remove these per MOS, but am not sure whether use of the bare name is too discourteous in Indian culture to allow this. Do you know about this? Best, --Stfg (talk) 20:07, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you ask User:Qwyrxian, as they are specialising in India topics. I have an opinion, but am no expert. --Dianna (talk) 20:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've asked there. --Stfg (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Diannaa,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 05:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Happy Valentine's Day!

Wilhelmina Will (talk) 10:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

If I may tag on and also wish you a good Valentine's Day! Time for some cookies and candy. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 12:59, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

diff?

What's the difference between "Ninja Diannaa" and regular ol' "Diannaa?" Nobody Ent 10:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Ninja Diannaa is an alternate account that I use when travelling and when editing at the library where I work. Ninja Dianna is also younger, thinner, and sneakier than regular Diannaa. -- ►►—Ninja Diannaa—► ^(Talk) 13:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah. I bet she wears black alot, too. Nobody Ent 20:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

She looks like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction -- ►►—Ninja Diannaa—► ^(Talk) 20:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Award

	Most Excellent Wikification Award
	The Most Excellent Wikification Award is hereby granted to Diannaa, for their service in participating in all of WikiProject Wikify's drives in 2011. Thank you for your noble service! Kerowyn Leave a note 20:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Mailing list done

Hi Dianna. Finished now, and I've removed the underlines too. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 14:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Mail

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--The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 15:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Because you were too slow to remove it before others (like me) read it...

There is a note on the GOCE page that says ppl should ask you their questions/concerns (technically, that's more of a paraphrase). Anyway, I took a stab at 2 articles, but I can't say I'm totally satified with either effort, and was hoping you could give me your initial opinion. The first article needs a lot more work in many areas I think. In particluar, I didn't know what to do about the sentence in the article that is exactly the same as in the lead. That's all in this article. The second article was of a much higher quality I thought (from a prose standpoint), and I couldn't find much wrong with it. I left notes on both talk pages if you'd like to read those too. If there's somewhere else I should be asking this, pls point the way. Thanks. --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 00:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I will reply on your talk page. --Dianna (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Definitely helpful, thank-you. --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 16:06, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Unrelated, but FYI, the top of this page says it's 9:06am where you live. I live in BC, it's 9:06PM... is that just another Alberta thing like no taxes? --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 05:12, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

It must be a Lotusland thing, or you are looking at a cached version of the page, cuz I say it be correct. --Dianna (talk) 06:04, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Mailing list done

Hi Dianna. Just to let you know that I completed the mailing list and took out the lines separating the four slices. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 10:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. If you could check over the drive invitation and make sure I have not bungled it, that would be great. I will notify the Signpost now. --Dianna (talk) 16:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It's good. --Stfg (talk) 16:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I will be going to the gym now and will attempt the bot run later. We can certainly perform step #1 now. :) -- Dianna (talk) 16:59, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's my job, remember? It needs my exper ...zzzzzzzzz... --Stfg (talk) 00:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Kapil Dev

Hi, can you c/e this article, if you are free. I'm planning to take this to FLC. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 18:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Vensatry. I have thought it over and have decided not to take on this request. I am busy with my own projects, and am not accepting requests right now. Sorry --Dianna (talk) 19:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Just as u hav been busy on wikipedia, take a break n njoy this! :) Yasht101 18:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Yasht --Dianna (talk) 19:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the assist on Herrrr-maaaannnn

You're correct, the article needs alot of work, if only only the grammar. I didn't want to start an edit-battle with the ... ahem ... shall we say 'fans of no-whites-allowed" anon-ip crowd on that page, so I was hoping an admin would step in and do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan (talk • contribs)

No problem. I see the main problem on the page as being the lack of sources. I got a book coming in on intra-library loan and will get over there for some more improvements once it arrives. --Dianna (talk) 23:46, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Good. Probably a reference to how Justice Jackson pounded Goring on the stand on the point of the Wannsee directive and Goring's responses during the Nuremberg trials would also be good to show how he was totally aware/participant of the Holocaust.

Mentor program

I notice on the mentor program page, that UtahRaptor is still listed as a mentor, but I thought I was reading elsewhere that due to concerns away from WP he was unable to edit for now. Might be an idea to drop him from the mentor program? Or ask him? --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 05:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I've marked him as "busy" there and left a note on his talk page for when he returns. Thanks for spotting this, Despayre. --Stfg (talk) 10:46, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

March drive

Hi Dianna, I've started it. I have a local screenshot of the "articles needing copy edit" box, as there aren't so many from 2010 any more and we might want to start recording progress on 2011 too. Not totalled yet, but just in case. --Stfg (talk) 00:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I kinda pre-vetted the October articles to help our editors get through them quickly and easily, removing an obvious copy vio and doing scripted clean-up and nominating a few for deletion. If you could watch and update the drive totals at 00:00 UTC if you are available at that time of day, that would be great. I am not always home at that time of day any more but will do it myself if I am. It is not critical, however, that it be done promptly. An hour or two over is not a huge deal.

I am going to try to do some graphing using a spreadsheet program and will prolly put up the first graph after a week or so. Thanks for your help. -- Dianna (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

OK. I wanted to be sure to catch 00:00 last night, and will do so tonight so that we know who did the most on day 1. Will again at the end. During the drive, since 00:00 is midnight for me and will become 01:00 later this month (British Summer Time), I may not make it all that regularly. I think that, during the middle of the month, the daily figures are only a rough indication. I didn't realise you'd been pre-vetting like that. So have I, and am about half way through January 2011 now, but have not been slashing much, from uncertainty as to what principles to apply. Have caught some copyvios, though. I've been more keen to put {{GOCEreviewed}} on long articles, less so on short ones because those are the ones that new copy editors can cut their teeth on without too much sweat. Also, I've been more heavy-handed on the vanity ones, sometimes adding tags. There's a list of what I've GOCEreviewed at User:Stfg/GOCEreviewed. If you spot any more that I should have hit, or any that I shouldn't, please yell. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 09:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Normally I am available at 03:00 UTC at the latest, so the figures will not be all that inaccurate if I do the tally when I get home. We can make a note at the end of the first day as to who has posted the largest number of articles, and jot it down somewhere. With 45 participants already signed up, we should have another successful drive from the point of view of the number of months we clear from the queue. Unfortunately the total number of articles remaining to be copy edited is creeping up slowly over time, even with the copy edit drives. But it is more important to do quality work than it is to do quantity work. After all our backlog is not so big compared to some of the others on the site.

Thank you for getting so many of the articles vetted. It's hard to know how far to go with cutting content or removing tags. Just use your own best judgement as to what is best for the wiki and best for our group of volunteers. --Dianna (talk) 12:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. I'll do tonight's 00:00 and record the top article count somewhere. Come to think of it, that's not so tough as we could get it from the history file, but I'll do it anyway. It's now 46, equalling January, so I'm optimistic about months cleared too. The March 2011 drive finished up with June 2009 cleared, so we're averaging 3/2; not too bad. Braincricket's "word on the streets" was a very good idea and may well have helped this to happen, I think. --Stfg (talk) 13:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The sign-up has been great so far. Improving the quality of the articles available to edit will help keep interest high, and hopefully we can see a larger decrease than usual in the overall number of articles in the queue. I am doing one right now! -- Dianna (talk) 13:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Vanished 6551232 CCI

Hi. I saw that you cleared two entries at WP:Contributor copyright investigations/Vanished 6551232.

List of astronauts educated at the United States Naval Academy (moved from List of United States Naval Academy alumni (astronauts))

I agree that the lead (actually the whole article, including the table) was copied from List of United States Naval Academy alumni. I placed {{Copied}} templates per WP:Copying within Wikipedia. If you see copying in the future, it would be very helpful if you could place {{Copied}} tags with from and to populated. {{Copying within Wikipedia}} can be used, but I think that no one patrols its maintenance category.

James G. Howes

Thanks for updating the dead links. I bumbled through The Royal Gazette's search once before I realized that they had been fixed. I rewrote a sentence about the IATA's survey of overall passenger satisfaction. The majority of the first clause had been copied from its cited source. "North American region" and "overall passenger satisfaction" are fixed phrases, but there is flexibility around them.

Flatscan (talk) 05:14, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. I did not realise that it was necessary to tag the fact that the material was copied within Wikipedia, since he was the author in both instances. Hopefully I will have time to work further on the list in the future. --Dianna (talk) 05:18, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You are correct that a user does not have to add extra attribution when he or she contributes solely-authored text to multiple pages. Some of the text in the Astronauts section – formatted into the table – predates the user's first edit to the article. Skimming the edit summaries of the relevant history, it looks like he did contribute all of the lead, but there are 581 edits by ten different users. One could comb through the history and argue that the preexisting text has limited creativity, but I think that providing attribution is both easier and safer. Flatscan (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, understood. Thanks again. -- Dianna (talk) 05:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

kittykittykittykittyyyyyyy happykitty orangekitty

Mistress Selina Kyle ^{(Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉)} 13:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I needed a kitty just now. :) --Dianna (talk) 14:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Check Italics

FYI, in case you didn't notice (see [1]). thank you. Frietjes (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. I will watch for that in the future. -- Dianna (talk) 22:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Leaderboard??

If we add ourselves to the current leaderboard (GOCE March), do we use rollover words in our count? Bddmagic (talk) 14:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

No, rollover words do not count for leaderboard awards. They only count for the regular barnstars. You don't have to add the rollover words at all; one of the coordinators will add them at the end, when the calculations for barnstars are done. --Dianna (talk) 15:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Help with the prose javascript

Hi, I am a relative newbie but kinda tech savvy. I've wikified a few pages, wrote a couple and now want to copy edit random cool stuff on your drive. But I can't get the darn prose javascript to create that neat word count thingie. Could you help me out? I'd very much like to revise Almagovars. Thanks so much!

Gofigure41 02:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gofigure41 (talk • contribs)

Hi, Gofigure41. What you need to do is put this in your vector.js instead of what's in there now (and then refresh your cache):

importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js'); //[[User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js]]

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It worked! Thanks so much for your help. Onto my next article.Gofigure41 01:14, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help. Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 01:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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CE consideration

As always, thanks for your ce work on several articles I had previously suggested for consideration of same. I would now suggest the articles: Joachim von Ribbentrop & Nazi Party as they both could use your fine skills for better presentation. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I am busy right now with the copy edit drive, and will return to JFK by the end of March. How about Hermann Goering? I have a book on its way via inter-library loan and might go there next. Cheers, --Dianna (talk) 19:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Remember: "The needs of the many outweigh...the needs of the few. Or the one." Kierzek (talk) 02:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I would accept that as an axiom. We will have to rank them by page views in that case; it is only logical. -- Dianna (talk) 02:45, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

February 2012 wikification drive!

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Follow-on assistance requested

Hello , thank you for your recent assistance at this talk page. It is great advice and I see it is effective as long as the 1st letter is involved. I think the request where I canceled the admin help request here will actually need an admin to delete the redirect. If there is another way for that please also advise, and I will observe your associated edits as well. Thank you for your assistance. - My76Strat (talk) 06:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I see you have moved the page and someone moved it back. I am not going to be moving the page. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: 3GPP Long Term Evolution

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 Done --Dianna (talk) 14:30, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

GOCE talk page archives

Hi Dianna. Can you see why the archive list at WT:GOCE stops at December 2011 even though Miszabot has created .../2012/January and .../2012/February? I'm flummoxed. --Stfg (talk) 21:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I am pretty sure Misabot has been down lately. It's happened before. I will add a temporary archive box so that the material can be accessed, and we can remove it when the bot resumes behaving. --Dianna (talk) 22:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 22:04, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hyderabad and Telangana

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Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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• open a tag, close a tag; :-) you opened a <p> tag, but never closed it with </p>; it won't break anything, but you're sending out a message about copy-editing and it's simply good form to write proper HTML, even if MediaWiki doesn't explode when a tag happens to go unclosed...
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Jeez, I *never* close my p tags ;-> but I can certainly start. Also the time stamp. Will do. Thanks -- Dianna (talk) 03:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Dianna. It was very kind of you to write what you did in the drive newsletter. Thanks, I really appreciate it. Cheers, Simon --Stfg (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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March CopyEdit Drive total ?

I just did one for Ratlam but got an error when putting the total in at the Drive page under my name and saved. What am I doing wrong? — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. The edit did not go through at all. Please try again and let me know if it still fails. --Dianna (talk) 00:49, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

It worked today. Thanks. Also, can we change the Progress Chart for March 15, with my CE of Ratlam, or is that something different? — WylieCoyote (talk) 16:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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Seeking advice re Adolf Hitler page

I've seen your edit message in the View History for the Adolf Hitler page. I can see that there's a form of citation there that I haven't come across before and with which I am unfamiliar. As far as I'm aware, Maser did more personal research on Hitler's background than anyone else, so I think his book should be included in any list. Where would I add it to the Citation List? The entries do not seem to be in any kind of alphabetical order. Also, I would like to look over the Hitler page carefully and probably make some changes, because I have already removed some very odd information on it (see the most recent items in View History) and expect there will be a lot more. 17:26, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I have replied on the talk page of the article. I am going to copy your remarks over there; I hope you don't mind -- Dianna (talk) 19:12, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance, especially taking the trouble to provide me with the full entry for the Reference list. I've just removed what I assume to be a pice of vandalism on the page, a joke reference to Rudolf Vrba. From randomly looking at entries on the View History page, it seems to have been there for some time. Do you happen know whether there is a method of pinning down who made that entry, and also whether there is a way in which that contributor can be blocked in future? Lastly, do feel free to remove all the above from your Talkpage, which I did not intend to clog up. Kim Traynor 13:18, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, no worries about clogging up the talk page; that's what it's here for. It's great to have fresh eyes on the article. I will look at your edits in more detail later (I have to go to work now); what I have had time to review so far looks helpful. There was a tool at http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/blame/ but it looks like it's gone 403 on us so the history of that edit would have to be found manually. I wouldn't worry about trying to track down who added it; if it's been there for a long time no one will block for it at this late date. Thanks again for your interest in improving this article. -- Dianna (talk) 14:33, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Saw you reverted my edit on responsibility for the Reichstag Fire. Neither Bullock nor Shirer presented any firm evidence that the Nazis did it. Even to this day we can only speculate, as they did. You'll know that Goering is reputedly on record as saying he was responsible, but I don't want to go there. It would lead to a discussion and we'd be there forever! We would never reach a conclusion beyond the one I stated: the Nazis gained most from the fire. Kim Traynor 14:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

The way I worded it was that both of these biographers held the opinion that it was true. Shirer was a man of deep feelings and strong opinions. No fence-sitter, he. The Nazis had the most to gain from the fire, it is true, but Shirer and Bullock do not actually say that. So that is why I made the amendment to the text; it more closely aligns with what the sources actually say; not the stuff that you or I believe to be true or what we believe the article should say. My personal opinion: Göring did not personally set the fire, but he was one of the organisers.

I was rushing to get to work and my earlier message may have been a little terse, so I just wanted to elaborate a bit about the other change: Saying stuff like "some historians claim" is considered weasel words, so unless we have the space and inclination to say specifically which historians are making the claim, it's better to not use those kinds of phrases. Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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I knew someone was gonna revert my edit

Sorry, I edited the article on Adolf Hitler, but couldn't provide my explanation in the tiny edit summary, it was only a matter of time before I got reverted by someone. Please read what I say in the article talk page, however. Thanks for your time DontClickMeName _talk^{contributations} 04:35, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh sorry I made a typo, I wanted to say couldn't, but typed in could. I think you misunderstood me there! changed it now(almost typed in "I changed it not," that would even more awkward) DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 20:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, are you too busy? You can say so it you are. DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 05:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Well you said to read your comments at Talk:Adolf Hitler, and I did so. I already gave my reason for removing the content in my edit summary, and if there is anyone who wishes to discuss the removal, they will do so at the talk page of the article. -- Dianna (talk) 05:30, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh I was just wondering if you disagreed or not, for some reason I didn't even ask what I meant to ask. But if you do disagree, I still wanna talk about why the Westboro church's comments would be worth mentioning, while Hitler's objection to the Christmas Truce is, well, not important, because I'm not really able to figure that out. please explain in the article talk page section, thanks. DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 07:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Well you know how Wikipedia is supposed look for consensus with discussion. Well that should mean that in cases where consensus is wanted, it can always be a good idea to start discussing what all reasons behind all choices. What I wanted to discuss is really why you think that information isn't "important" while other information is. Sometimes I want an article some way and I don't want to explain all those endlessly boring reasons, but there's no ideal way to get around making the choice between explaining myself, and leaving the topic (which I rarely do), it's a common dilemma on editing Wikipedia: annoying, but what can we do with it? Please just start the talkin DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 02:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought it should be obvious why this is not important. Compared to the invasion of the Soviet Union or the murder of six million Jews, it is very small beer indeed. So it stays out. -- Dianna (talk) 02:54, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

That seems very convincing, and indeed it would feel completely correct if I agreed (so again, I wouldn't think differently if I were you). However, I, with more time to think about it, say that none of what Hitler did (such as "his artwork, drawing cartoons and instructions for an army newspaper", having "a second bout of blindness" learning of defeat, etc.) during his time in the army is really worth mentioning compared to what he does as a dictator. I don't like sounding like this, but according to this reason (which I would feel completely correct agreeing with), the whole "early years" section should be removed. Are we going to do that? DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 03:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

All of these things are mentioned by his primary biographers, and were important to his development as a person. You have a random incident mentioned in one newspaper article. -- Dianna (talk) 14:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, true, but the source of the information is only checked to see whether or not the information is reliable or not, and does not have the final say about the information's importance. The center point all my reasons hover around is that how significant an event is does not solely determine its importance on an article. I didn't believe in this center point in the past the same way you don't, because it's not something that would be understood to be accepted easily. But look at everything on the article... for example when Hitler described the war as "the greatest of all experiences", does those words themselves have any significance coming from a low rank soldier? No, but the words tell a lot about how he thought about the war, and it's the reasoning that caused him to say that, not the words themselves that's significant, and information giving clues about something significant is important to the article even though it's not significant in itself. My edit does add clues to the dictator's views about concepts such as that of the Christmas truce.

(I'm sorry about wasting all this time on the tiniest detail, but this is what I meant when I talked about how frustrating it is when Wikipedia's "dilemma" either forces people to give in or to explain all those endless, boring reasons, and it's why I often have the urge to rather edit war than to explain myself. Oh well, I figure such discussion must be good for the brain in order to be that boring.) DontClickMeName _talk^{contributions} 23:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey there

I'm not sure what the protocol is with vandalism, but this guy has been making some bad edits to the Spetsnaz page. I don't know whether you warn people or just outright ban them, or even if an admin is the right person to talk about this kind of thing, but there you go anyway. Elvis Clay (talk) 14:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Elvis Clay, and welcome to Wikipedia. That IP geolocates to a school; just some kid. Normally we issue several warnings before a block is laid down. The IP has stopped editing. The place to report vandalism is at WP:AIV. --Dianna (talk) 17:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the information. Elvis Clay (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Request

Hi, i was wondering if you would be interested in giving a helping hand at the Bhagat Singh article. The article has been nominated for GA. Something went wrong with my script, so i was hoping that you wouldn't mind anglicizing the spellings. Additionally, if you were to be interested in copy-editing the article and fixing the overlinking and underlinking issues, that would be greatly appreciated by me as well. Thank you. Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Joyson, hope you are well. I have stopped taking copy edit requests, as I wish to pursue my own topics of interest right now. I did run several scripts on your article—British spelling, British dates, and the dashes script—and no changes were required. I tested the spelling script on an article and it was definitely functioning, so no changes were required. Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 17:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem! :-) Thanks anyway. Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 17:52, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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