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1940 Field Marshal Ceremony

Thanks for adding this article to Wikipedia. I was suprised when I saw it, that no one had thought of it before. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 21:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thank you so much. It really means a lot to me, I'm also very proud. Sorry for all the miss-edits and such, I'm fairly new on Wikipedia, which you probably guessed. By the way, you can to go my user page to see the other articles I created, I listed them all. Since it was my very first Wiki-article, I'm very protective over it. Thanks again for your words. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:53, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I've just reverted your addition of material on this event to the World War II article. The article on the war is deliberately written at a very high level, and this doesn't seem significant enough to include (the article doesn't discuss the careers of anyone at lower than national leader level). Could you please start a discussion on the article's talk page if you think that this warrants inclusion? Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

It's ok, I don't really care that much. Besides if you don't believe it should be there, I'm sure it shouldn't. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:53, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Hitler and Mannerheim recording: Weinberg reference

Hi,

I saw you added a reference to "Weinberg 2005" in your article Hitler and Mannerheim Monologue, but the actual citation is missing. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 20:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:53, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Apparently Youtube is not supposed to be added as a reference, first, because it is content added by anonymous Youtube participants, and anything there could be a hoax; second, because it might be copyrighted video which has been posted without permission of the copyright holder, and Wikipedia is not supposed to link to such violations. The video seems to be from National Geographic. If that is so, where is a disclaimer on Youtube to show that they granted permission to someone to post the video? But there is a solution. Find out the date of oiginal broadcast of the edisode, along wiht the name of it, and just cite that as a reference. Even better, find where there is a print reference to it. It seemed like a possible hoax when I first happened on it, but on review it looks legitimate and of historical importance, so we should get it right. The translations you added may be copyright violations if you just transcribed them from the captions on the TV episode, unless Nat Geographic granted you permission to post them here. That seems unlikely, so they should not be included. Did the Finnish broadcastiong company post the audio with a translation? If so you should link to that. Regards. 98.213.49.221 (talk) 20:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Mannerheim recordings

I've just moved your addition on this subject to the bottom of the page where new posts go. It might be an idea if you add four tildes (4x~) before Sinebot signs it as mine. Britmax (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh okay, I didn't know that, thanks mate. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:54, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Anytime. Britmax (talk) 08:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Margarete Himmler

Just so you are aware, it appears that we have an editor who is already working on a full length article for this subject, so I would advise you to not spend time expanding it further for now.Hoops gza (talk) 00:39, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi there friend. Yes, I'm aware of that, I saw a long conversation regarding that, I don't know if it's the same people we are talking about, but I definitely won't edit that much more (if anything). I only created the stub article because they said they were very busy these days, and would not have the time to do it. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:54, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Karl Leidenroth

Somebody removed the speedy delete tag, but this does not mean that the article cannot be nominated for a deletion discussion. It simply means that one person has looked at the article and decided for some reason that it is not so obviously non-notable as to be eligible for a speedy delete. It is not proper to remove an AfD template from an article and in any case doing so does not remove the article from the list of articles whose deletion is under discussion. If you want to make a case for retention of this article do so at the AfD discussion.TheLongTone (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

It was an administrator that declined the AFD. I think an administrator would know best whether it should be speedy deleted or not. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

All it means, as already stated, is that an admin has decided that it merits further discussion.TheLongTone (talk) 14:36, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

First World problems

I tagged the article First World problems for deletion despite your notice not to do so, because you said it was going to be merged with another article. On Wikipedia, to merge articles means to combine the content of 2 pages together. Since your article did not have any encyclopedic content, merging cannot take place. Please explain further as to why you want the article to be kept. Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

The real article is called "First World problem", but the term is correctly spelled "First World problems" with an S in the end. The two pages should be moved together. That's why it should be kept. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:27, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jonas,
I converted the page into a redirect. This means that everybody who types "First World problems" into the searchbar, or clicks on a link to it will automatically be rerouted to the article First World problem. I hope that this was what you were trying to do- if not, feel free to revert my edit. Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Passengerpigeon. You don't have to put it laymean terms, I have been on Wikipedia for quite some time. Regarding the redirect - I will repeat myself, the term is correctly spelled with an S in the end. It should, therefore, be moved instead. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:38, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

The only way to move the page is to tag the redirect First World problems for speedy deletion per WP:G7, and then move the page First World problem to First World problems once the redirect has been deleted. Passengerpigeon (talk) 23:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Silk Purse Award

		Silk Purse Award
		I am both pleased and honored to present you with the Silk Purse Award in appreciation for your superb improvements to the Hitler's Warriors article, essentially changing what was seen as a sow's ear into a terrific silk purse. Schmidt, Michael Q. 08:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

I cannot tell you how happy I am! Thank you so much, my very first award, I'm so glad. I'll definitely continue improving stub articles. Again, thank you so much. Best regards. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia - problem with the citation

The content you just added to the Hitler article was copied from elsewhere in Wikipedia. It's okay to re-use Wikipedia content, but it's copyright, so attribution must be given according to the terms of our Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license. Attribution can be given by noting the source article in your edit summary. For bigger additions, there's special templates that need to be added to the talk pages. This is a legal requirement, so please be sure to do this every time you re-use Wikipedia content.

A second problem with your addition is that the book by Proctor was not already listed in the bibliography. Please be careful to make sure you add information about the book to the bibliography as well as adding the Harvard citation so that it is easy for other editors to verify that the content is properly sourced. You might like to consider installing the script at User:Ucucha/HarvErrors, which will detect for you when errors of this kind have been made. If you need help getting started with scripts, please let me know.

Please be cautious when adding content to the Hitler article or any of our other big articles. So that people using slow internet connections or mobile devices can still access them, our have an upper limit of around 10,000 words. Hitler is presently at 11,610 words. We don't want to jeopardise its good article status by going any bigger. -- Diannaa (talk) 00:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much, friend. I will definitely remember it all. Jonas Vinther (talk) 00:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)'

But also, the sentence I added in Hitler's article was not completely the same as on the anti-tobacco movement article. The anti-tobacco article says "in his early life". I added "in his youth". Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Lastly, will you be reviewing the Edda Göring article? Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:02, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing still counts as a copyright violation. Changing one or two words is not enough; the content needs to be totally re-written, or attribution given if the material is available under license. I will probably not do your GA review. I would not feel comfortable doing it, and it will be a good way for you to meet more people. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:09, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

... Okay? Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:22, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk

Thanks for coming to my talk page, and for improving Edda Göring. I see your name on my watchlist and am sometimes confused, simply because you seem to take a header and add a new one underneath. (I did the same thing in the beginning.) It's more transparent if you use the "new section" button, and people see your subject header. Also, no need to get worried, there's a backlog in GA reviewing, - so far most of mine were eventually reviewed, two are open, see? A German woman with a name like that is possibly not the easiest choice for a potential reviewer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

added BWV 12 to my GA nominations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't quite understand? Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:25, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I wanted to say no more than that I have three noms open now, not two as mentioned above (apart from canvassing, of course) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid I must go back to... I don't quite understand what you're saying, friend? Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

It seems to matter no more, - sad to see you go, but if it's better for you, go in peace ;) - I'll watch the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Danke. :) Jonas Vinther (talk) 23:07, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

"Total psychopath" userbox

I noticed you tried to add it to your user page, but it didn't work correctly; sure enough, you forgot to delete the lead colon (":"). Highlight, copy+paste this as you see it below (it won't work if you edit this page and copy that code):

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I just tried it, it should work fine (I don't edit others' user pages). Cheers! —ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 03:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks mate, thank you very much. Jonas Vinther (talk) 13:24, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supervisor Patrick O'Boyle

Do not edit my comments. If you have a comment to make in an AfD, make it in the body. Do not edit my nomination to say things they did not say. You can face sanctions if you continue to do so. You also need to familiarize yourself with how to vote in AfDs. I see from your history that you have voted multiple times in the same AfD and restored your votes when they were struck out. Each user gets to vote once. If you have further comments, simply make a comment. Do not restore struck out votes that have been validly struck out. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry; I was under the impression you had to choose between keep, delete, or comment, and thought you'd just forgotten it, and since you added the AfD, I assumed you was in favor of deletion. So sorry. It's true I voted repediatly, but that's history. I learned from my mistakes and did not vote repediatly on the new talk page, I just made several comments, not vote twice. Jonas Vinther (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

GA Review question

You asked if I reviewed articles; I have not done so before, but I'd be willing to if there is something you'd like me to take a look at. - Eron^Talk 19:04, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, well, I made vast improvements to Edda Göring's article, and went as far as to nominate it for GA status, but no one has reviewed it yet. If you have the time, I'd appreciate if you'd review it, Eron. Jonas Vinther (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

WWII France articles mess: occupation edition

I'd appreciate if you could share your views: Talk:German_military_administration_in_occupied_France_during_World_War_II#Requested_move Thank you. Cheers, ^walk victor falk ^talk 17:12, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I will add some thoughts of my own. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• Another move request: Free_French_Forces#Requested_move. Thanx for your input. Cheers, ^walk victor falk ^talk 22:00, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Again added thoughts of my own. Jonas Vinther (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Articles

Jonas: you have been very prolific in a short period of time; and I hope you have enjoyed the time so far and also gotten something back out of it. Below is a list of articles (including stubs) per Wikipedia which you have officially created (newest on top). On your user page you list some additional ones. I am sure you did a lot of work on them but would respectfully suggest you list the ones you did create from scratch in one section and for the others list them as: "Major Contributions". I would not bother with redirects. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 00:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Soviet Storm: World War II in the East; Christian Leberecht von Prøck; Ludwig von Brauchitsch; Bernd von Brauchitsch; The Halder Diaries; Adolf Hitler's Favorite Flower; Adolf Hitler's adjutants; Constantin J. David; Enforced retirement; Margarete Himmler; How Hitler Lost the War; Compiègne Wagon; Deutsches Frauenwerk; Hitler's Warriors; Johann von Kielmansegg; Herzog-Ernst Medal; Mundelstrup; The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (book); Hitler and Mannerheim recording; Made in Hungaria; Lippe House Order; Adolf von Brauchitsch; Sabro Korsvejskolen; 1940 Field Marshal Ceremony.

Hi, Kierzek. The Walther von Brauchitsch article had barely 100 words when I first started editing it. As I have studied the life of Brauchitsch, I massively expanded the article, so I kind of look at it as an article I "started". Also, I did indeed create the page for The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (film). However, user Diannaa moved the old article to the new one, so I'm not listed as creator. Also, what does "prolific" mean? Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

But if you insists, I'll do as you suggested. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:13, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

It's done, Kierzek. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. As for the word, prolific: abundantly; highly fruitful. BTW-I do not mean the above in a negative way; so carry on, there is still much work which can be done on this project. Kierzek (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

As I earlier wrote, I intent to improve all my stub-created articles to class articles... Someday. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, Kierzek, if you need something translated, tell me, because I speak Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and German. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Kierzek (talk) 15:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hitler

Hi Jonas. I know you are trying to help, but adding quotations to our articles is not the way to do it. In fact it's recommended to use a minimum or quotations and instead write the prose yourself using your own words. It makes for a more interesting article for our reader and is more copyright compliant.

I think I may have mentioned in the past that we try to keep our articles to 10,000 words or less. This helps ensure that people using a slow internet connection or a cell phone will still be able to load and view the page. The Hitler article is already 11,642 words (1,642 words over the limit), so it would be best if you didn't add any more content to that article. We want to ensure that it retains its Good Article status, and one way we can do that is to not let it get too big. It needs to be lean, concise, and to the point. -- Diannaa (talk) 02:29, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Diannaa. Yes, I remember you told me about quotations, article size, copyrights and so on. However, I felt that the quote I added recently was so historically important that I felt compelled to add it. It proves that Hitler was in April 1919... a communist! I felt it was too important to keep out. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:02, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

The quote does not say he was a communist, it merely states he was the head of a Soviet-style council. It's not the same thing. User:Nick-D was right to remove it. --Diannaa (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Well ... I'd say that's debatable. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I also agree that the quote does not establish that Hitler was a communist. Much stronger sourcing would be needed to sustain such a claim than the views of a single historian interpreting a single non-conclusive document. It's not uncommon for makeshift militia units such as the one in question here to be be commanded by a group of soldiers: without an established chain of command or hierarchy to go by there's often resistance to a single person taking command. Nick-D (talk) 23:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I think it should at least be told that he was in a Soviet style council. It should be told. Jonas Vinther (talk) 23:53, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

But was he? The source is a single historian interpreting a document in which he says that Hitler's name was misspelt. Has this been accepted by other historians? "Soviet style" is also rather misleading: the Soviets didn't invent this organisation, which is not uncommon among temporary military units, especially shortly after they were first created. Nick-D (talk) 00:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Nick-D, for the sake of your argument, let's say he was not. Even so, the document proves that Hitler was more or less involved in Bavarian-Soviet politics within the Bavarian army. There can't have been two Bavarian army officers with the "same" name! If you watch the specific video that was linked to the AV media source as an online source, you can see Kershaw also talking about Hitler in this period, and other historians. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Jonas-as we all know, Hitler served in World War I. As noted in the Nazism article: "After the war, his (army) battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other, which he (the historian Weber, surmises) took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified." (BTW-I have seen that photo and one cannot tell for sure it is Hitler shown, but my opinion does not count-per OR). Jonas, don't read too much into all this; Hitler was an opportunist still in the German Army at the time and his interest in politics was beginning. He wanted at that time above all to remain in the army. None of the above means he was a communist; and as we all know, he never joined that party. My further point is that the matter has been mentioned and covered in the Nazism article. Kierzek (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I had just written a long reply to your message, but in the moment I was saving page, you also made an edit; so "edit conflict" appeared. Nevermind... Jonas Vinther (talk) 20:10, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

BTW (although a dated source)-Shirer states: "He remained in the Reichswehr and was given a relatively meaningless assignment during the winter of 1918–1919, but was eventually recruited by the Army's Political Department (Press and News Bureau), possibly because of his assistance to the army in investigating the responsibility for the ill-fated Bavarian Soviet Republic. Shirer (1960) p. 34.

WikiProject Eurovision Invitation!

	You are cordially invited to join WikiProject Eurovision!
	You appear to be someone that may be interested in joining WikiProject Eurovision. Please accept this formal invitation from a current member of the project. We offer a place for you to connect with users who also like Eurovision and facilitate team work in the development of Eurovision articles.
	If you decide to join the project, please add your name to this list, and add the project talk page to your watchlist.
	I hope you accept! - Wes Mᴥuse 14:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind me sending you this invite. I noticed your GA nomination for Eurovision Song Contest 2014. You saved me a job, as it was down on my to-do list, although I was making sure all the {{cite web}} data had been fully completed before making a submission. It will be a while yet before the article will undergo its review (generally around 6-8 weeks waiting time). So the GA nom, has given me a nice nudging reminder to get those missing data fields completed, so that it will pass the GA easier. Wes Mᴥuse 14:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Wesley Mouse, thanks for the invite. Yes, I also noticed the Euro-2014 page and believed it could pass for GA status. Being the GA nominator, I will of course do all I can to help you with the small errors so that it will pass when the time comes. Like yourself, I have a (mental) to-do list, and it's far from complete, so even if I join I'm not sure how active I can be as of right now. I'll defiantly consider it though, and try to be as fruitful as possible. All the best. Jonas Vinther (talk) 15:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I decided to join, and just have, Wesley Mouse. Jonas Vinther (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome aboard, so glad that you accepted the invitation to join ProjectEurovision. Indeed the 2014 article should pass GA with ease, as did the previous 2 ESC articles along with a couple of ABU Song Festival ones too. Ever since the project held a debate to reform the layout style of these articles, they have become written to a high standard from the start, and gain GA quite quickly. It's just making sure as much of the data fields from {{cite web}} are completed. For example, making sure any foreign language sources also include the language= field to show the language of the source and trans_title= to provide an English translation of the source. It's also a good opportunity to make sure none of the sources are dead links, and if they are, to provide an archived version.

As for activeness, don't panic there. We understand that everyone has real-life activities too. There is a project newsletter that is published monthly that provides information on upcoming contests as well as a list of articles that require maintenance work (for those members who are looking for an article to improve). Feel free to have a nosey around the Project's pages to familiarise yourself with anything that the project does. And if you have any questions, then do not hesitate to ask them at my talk page. Regards, Wes Mᴥuse 09:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks kind Sir. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks again for the invitation. Jonas Vinther (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Brauchitsch

No problem, I gladly help where I can. You may want to consult this book

• Loeffler, Juergen (2001). Walther von Brauchitsch (1881-1948): Eine politische Biographie. ISBN 978-3631377468.

Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 21:34, 21 June 2014 (UTC)