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Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha. DBigXrayᗙ 07:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray and DiplomatTesterMan I would like to bring your attention for your inputs here 1, here 2 and here 3. Dey subrata (talk) 00:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, For the first one, I requested the merge request so I guess I will refrain from commenting since my merge request signifies my intention. (too late to withdraw even if I wanted) If consensus says to Keep, well that is the closers call. DTM (talk) 13:34, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of India national football team at the Olympics

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article India national football team at the Olympics you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 21:02, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, MWright96, I almost forget that I've nominated it, almost 4 months before or more may be. Sure I will also go through the article again to see if there any changes or update needed. And also ask you to go through the talk page to see the previous nom and the work done to improve it. Thank you again. Dey subrata (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of India national football team at the Olympics

The article India national football team at the Olympics you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:India national football team at the Olympics for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 15:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

New message from DiplomatTesterMan

Hello, Drat8sub. You have new messages at DiplomatTesterMan's talk page.
Message added 12:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Please see the section where I have tagged you. Kindly request you to help out here. DTM (talk) 12:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan I don't know if its a sockpuppet or not but I would advice for now remove your personal details from the profile for atleast weeks or 10-15 days, the things that are happening in Delhi, is not so good, and people approaching you like this is something fishy as to me an established news paper does not need to approach to know about wikipedia like this, and the user clearly mentioned she want to make a profile report on you and about your work, its seems to me like luring. Something fishy, whether she really that person or not I wonder. Lets wait for her reply, which I don't think she will. Dey subrata (talk) 01:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Nah, it's alright. When I chose to remove anonymity from my account long back I knew what I was doing and what I could be getting into. But I wouldn't worry. Thanks for the consideration though. Just playing along. DTM (talk) 03:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

And Sarvatra very nicely followed up. :) So I wouldn't think about it too much. DTM (talk) 03:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan Well from the tweet it seems her only. All good then. It was just out of concern as online trolling and harassment is common trend to day. Dey subrata (talk) 03:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Timeline of the premiership of Narendra Modi

Should this page look like it has been manufactured in the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 Nah I don't think so, but I wonder why such a thing exist here, what purpose its serving?? No other article similar to it exists. Modi's article and Premiership of Narendra Modi include everything, it seems redundant. Dey subrata (talk) 00:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for North East Delhi riots

On 26 February 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article North East Delhi riots, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Would not have been possible without your helping hand to update this.--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

The Asian 10,000 Challenge

Hello Drat8sub. You have been invited to join WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge, a WikiProject dedicated to improving the Asia-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in, or edits relating to or within the scope of the project. If you would like to join or just help out a bit, please visit the project page, and add your name to the participants. If you know someone who might be interested, please invite them by: {{subst:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge Invite (1)|~~~~}} Thanks, Nehme1499 (talk) 14:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of India national football team at the Olympics

The article India national football team at the Olympics you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:India national football team at the Olympics for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

MWright96 "Failed" ???? Is it a mistake. Dey subrata (talk) 20:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dey subrata: Definitely did pass and undertook the correct procedures. Must be an error in the system. MWright96 (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dey subrata: Have amended the article history section to include every review the article has undergone. MWright96 (talk) 11:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

what about Instigation by AMIM, Amantullah Khan, Sarjil Imam..

https://www.facebook.com/100008486494777/posts/2343830229243171/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.21.70.181 (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you, I've no interest and don't watch and read any propaganda and communal pages/articles/videos/websites. And do something better in life than whataboutism. And wikipedia is about reliable sources and rationale. Dey subrata (talk) 02:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Background

Entire background is misguided, Kapil Mishra gave ultimatem to Delhi police to clear blockage created by redical islamist and leftist on provocation of Sonia Gandhi, Swara Bhaskar and many other so called liberals with support of governing AAM AADMI PARTY’s Members like Kejriwal, Handsome Sisodia, Amanatullah Kahan to avoid harassment of general public.

One islamist terrorist named Shahrukh openly fired 8 rounds of bullet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kapil Mishra Fan (talk • contribs) 14:19, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

First, absolutely not, the background is perfect, is not misguiding anyone. But you are surely misguided with miss informations. Secondly, wikipedia is not social media site, where people can write anything and everything that comes to mind. If you think, just like fb or twitter you can write anything here, then you are at a wrong place, this is an encyclopedia, everything written here with citation and sources. Everyline in wikipedia is added with proper reliable sources, or else the materials will be challenged and eventually be removed if the user could not produce any reliable source and justification. Again, WP:NPOV is very important policy of wikipedia, such WP:UNDUE materials are strictly avoided in wikipedia. Secondly, I feel pity for you, when you are labelling people this and that, I am in no doubt, wondering how much hatred is there in your mind. People died because of that provocating speech, still you are coming here to request me about the background to write some bull shit and you are commenting with a username of Kapil Mishra fan. Have you shed all shame, let me tell you something, the moment you become fan of anything, you become blind for that person, shed all your rationale as human and you stop questioning the person even if he is a great personality. I really feel pity for you, get well soon. Dey subrata (talk) 14:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

When things cool down...

Shaheen Bagh protests has scope of becoming a GA fairly easily, when the protest finishes of course an attempt can be made by whoever is interested. DTM (talk) 13:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan Yes, I know, I already have it in my to do list, it will easily get GA promotion. It will need some correction in references and some copyedits. I will start working in these from March 1. I will let you know once I start editing for GA. Dey subrata (talk) 16:20, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

GA needs a stable article. as long as the protests are on, I doubt you will get a stable article. Hence the title "When things cool down" --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 21:42, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray Not exactly, to my experience question on stability mostly raised about facts thats could be challenged and deleted rather than additions of new material. Though, the article almost reached its saturation, hardly more things, except verdicts by court, to be added untill and unless anything bad happens. Thats why said will start in March. Dey subrata (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Looking forward to it! DTM (talk) 12:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

EPH Tool

• User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper

Dey subrata, DTM, User:S. M. Nazmus Shakib. Please install this. It is helpful to respond to edit requests. ⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:56, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

User:S. M. Nazmus Shakib--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:57, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray I tried but showing technical problem. By the way have you seen this 1 I just can't believe. quite a thing, we should go for WT:SBL. Dey subrata (talk) 06:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, I had seen it. yes. it is a propaganda source. and already considered unreliable per wP:RSN ⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 06:07, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray Hmm get it. Thats the reason of so many WP:ER. Dey subrata (talk) 06:16, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, frustrated at not being able to push POV. --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 06:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Wrong information

This article is bizzare and full of wrong reporting.Kindly stop this wrong reporting with your fake videos.Gentle request ,go to Delhi ,do some ground work and then write . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:5C1E:AD00:1529:553E:6973:2FBA (talk) 18:09, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

bizzare...wrong reporting according to whom? Which of the information added in the article is false/wrong? How the article is bizzare? FYI, I live in Delhi, I am on "the" ground. And go through WP:GUIDELINE & WP:Nutshell and if you have any issue bring it to article talk page, in the respective thread already under discussion. Dey subrata (talk) 18:16, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Article update

DBigXray Can you please update the gargi college article with this articles, on 14 Feb– two arrested 1, 16 Feb– one arrested 2 and 18 Feb– two arrested 3. Total 17, please update these or anything else if you find there. Dey subrata (talk) 19:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Hey, don't do that. Blocked editors are not allowed to solicit other people to edit for them. Why don't you just wait the 72 hours? It's a lot easier than any appeals process. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 19:55, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes sure. Dey subrata (talk) 20:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Help Required

Hey guy what's up. I wanna see my pages which I translated form where can I access the same. I even tried Xtools where we can see Wikipedia progress but there weren't anthin' there. I'd express my extreme gratitude towards you I you can help me in any possible way.

Thanks

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 10:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

SHISHIR DUA I don't get what exactly you are asking. "Translated" !! which materials or any article??? Dey subrata (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Please tell me the way how can I access the names of the articles that I translated form foreign languages to English.

Your reverts at CAA

Do not just revert edits from others by flagging them as per copyvio, manual of style, not something recited at a lot of places, not required and not seen in big protests etc.

Don't assume that an edit summary can constitute “discussion”. There is no way for others to respond. You can use the article's talk page, for the discussion component of the BRD cycle. Italawar (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Italawar cool down and thanks for bringing the issue. It was just only one incident where the poem is recited and not even in a protest. Thus better to keep in prose which it is already mentioned. We can't include everything in wiki, it should be summarised per WP:SUMMARY and go through WP:MOS. The poem is well mentioned in the section. There is no need for making quote box for it. There are many such poem which were used in multiple places and widely covered but are not mentioned in quote box because of MOS & Summary policies. viz Main nahi manta, main nahi janta & other poems are also there. And yes its a copyvio per WP:COPYVIO. Try to understand these policies. Dey subrata (talk) 15:34, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Don't restore sock edits when you yourself seek consensus for new edits by other editors. If you restore a sock's edit then you become responsible for all the disruption done by the sock in the given edit. Tessaracter (talk) 05:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Tessaracter This was previously been noticed too, this user was blocked a month ago or may be more, all the materials are absolutely correct and added with consensus only. I would ask you to self revert all the materials and to restore the materials as these are essential for the article. Dey subrata (talk) 05:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Contributions for new article about coronavirus in India

Hello Dey subrata, because now there is a news about coronavirus outbreak in India. I would like to invite you to contribute about editing in the 2020 coronavirus outbreak in India article. Because now there are many coronavirus cases in India and there was a international event regarding the COVID-19. Waiting for your contribution to the new article and please the article now includes in Abitration committee sanctions of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan and don't forget this article using Indian English spellings. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.77.95.122 (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I will go through but I have zero idea about it. However, i think outbreak is imaginative at this moment, as there is no outbreak in India, people coming from China and Italy having the virus are infected but no outbreak. Dey subrata (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

What? Is coronavirus imaginative now? Is very real as India confirms 31 cases in the country. This COVID-19 arrived in India in late-January. So I hope you can contribute to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.76.239.17 (talk) 15:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Not corona but the situation of outbreak seemed to imaginative. Last time when I've commented, it was not a situation of outbreak, now the 30 include 15-16 Italian, so how can it be called outbreak. Anyway I will go through the article. Will see what else is missing. And please sign your comment everytime by placing this tilde ~ four times. Dey subrata (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppet edits

Please see WP:BANREVERT. The original deletion was correct, your restoral was not because it was such a large amount of text. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 13:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Doug Weller Well, the same thing was observed when the user's first account was blocked months back, at that time also someone removed materials because of sockpuppet's edit, which was obvious per policy. But eventually restored as was correct and appropriate. Similar this time also. One such is a big portion of background without which the background become very odd & primitve, another such is in timeline. I understand the the original deletion, but don't get the later one. There was no violation of soapboxing and notnews. Follows core policies of neutrality, verifiability and BLP. That is an ongoing protest article, was and will be updated with new developments, with my revert of that good faith removal, I took full responsibility of the materials seeing the necessity. Dey subrata (talk) 15:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

If you are taking "responsibility" then why you still haven't provided any explanation that how do you think those edits were correct? Just restoring sock without stating your reasons even after being asked is not something allowed per policy. Aman Kumar Goel^(Talk) 18:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

First, a thing called WP:BRD exist here, which I think you have not gone through. Second, I have already explained above. If you find anything false you can bring it for discussion. Dey subrata (talk) 18:54, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

You are the one taking responsibility and need to show why. You still haven't done that so far. Instead you are asking others that why they reverted them. Do you really think that there is any notability in the claims that a couple of people demanding resignation of Adityanath, or whatever a defected BJP member like Yashwant Sinha tells? WP:ILIKEIT is all you have told so far behind your restoration of sock edits. Aman Kumar Goel^(Talk) 03:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

You need to go through WP:BLOCKEVASION, never ask me again this and that without any proper knowledge, I will assume it as harrasment. The onus is on to the user, who've reverted my edit, to bring the materials for discussion if they've any policy based objection to it. Dey subrata (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Reverts on CAA protests again

Don't restore rejected edits on CAA protests without gaining consensus priorhand. I have already told that the article requires grand cleanup but if you continue to reintroduce same WP:OR, WP:SOAPBOX and WP:SYNTH then the page will forever remain in poor condition. Aman Kumar Goel^(Talk) 04:25, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

This was per the ACT. The revert was totally unnecessary. My summary was not sufficient may be but not the materials. And this is OR, SOAPBOX to you but not what the citations tells. Previously, you called a former Finance Minsiter and External Affairs Minister as defected BJP leader shows how much you wanted to improve the article or have concern about poor condition of the article. Dey subrata (talk) 05:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Request

check i league 2nd div updates i suggested

Please sign your comment with four tilde ~ everytime. The suggestion was not correct...season is 2019-20, should not be 2020, we put official names, the next one can start from December. Dey subrata (talk) 00:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Football kit in infobox

Mr. Dey Subrata, can you please tell me how to upload latest 2019-20 ATK kit in the infobox? Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 06:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

@Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill:, Here is the template Template:Football kit, everything written here. For patterns you can match with existing patters from Template:Football kit/pattern list, if not matching request users at the talk pages of both the templates or can ask them at their talk pages to make the pattern for you. Dey subrata (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 19:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

help

please protect my last contributions and links from one asian monster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.152.166 (talk) 12:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello ip user, please don't use deragatory words for any user. Secondly, which article are you talking about? Where have you done your edits? Dey subrata (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Revive the article

Dear;

The List of ATK players has duplicated the actual content published at List of ATK (football club) players and has not done anythin' before that of. As the article is supposed to merge with it in order to avoid duplication. The authors simply pasted the materials and devoid the initial article List of ATK (football club) players usin' redirection and devastin' the actual published content.The appeal is urge deletion of this article and profound sustain of List of ATK (football club) players as it also include the article List of ATK (football club) Overseas players by the same author whereas List of ATK players is just a mere stub that doesn't enlist even more tham 3 players of the first season before the appeal of merger that one can access using the contributions and editin' history. List of ATK players is profound (upto 99.9%) duplication of the content of List of ATK (football club) players. Anyhow the author of List of ATK (football club) players managed to revive the article. The user is usin' his might immorally.

I would love if you will furnish the views at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ATK (football club) players

Regards,

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 11:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Coderzombie, which of the policies best fitted for this? History merge or redirect. Here, a lot of violations involved. Merging the article for sure, but I really don't like the mess created, Dua invested a lot of time for sure for creating that table. This was what the List of ATK players looking like untill the materials copied from List of ATK (football club) players. Let me know here or at the discussion. Dey subrata (talk) 16:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

It sounds like you have figured out how to edit and not having a problem now? The block wasn't connected to you in any way.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

JNU attack edit

Hi Dey subrata, This is regarding 2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack edits. The addition of data was undone. Need to present data for comparison. 'Not required' is a perspective. singaraja (talk) 09:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

singaraja, already messaged you at your talk page. Dey subrata (talk) 09:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata Was the data introduced erroneous? why should perspective intervene? what is required and what is not is perspective. Should we not present data as is? (talk) 09:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata in the 2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack page, information in the previous statement to my edit, by your standard, should also be removed, because it contains numbers which are "not required".(talk) 09:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

singaraja, the number are required to comapre between the state run and public funded university. Secondly, its not perspective, it a obvious fact that a private university is expensive, a kid also knew that. No need to mention about private university, when the protest is nothing to do with private university. Its solely about public funded university, where the poorest of the section can afford the education. And you must read the WP:SUMMARY too. We need not to emntion all and everything. We can avoid things without which a reader can get everything about an article. Dey subrata (talk) 09:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, The data is from the news source, I did not generate or interpret. Just presenting data. Donot interpret. Our duty as editors is to present without interpreting. singaraja (talk) 09:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

singaraja, the line that you have added does not need to be included, the section should be summarised, and that source does not give any importance on comparison with private university. And the article is about attack not about the protest. And please go through WP:OR and WP:EDITWAR. Dey subrata (talk) 09:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

And whoever is interested to read in details can go through the sources for which it is mentioned. The topic is attack, the line says enough when its saying the the protest is dure to increase in fees and making it expensive central university. I don't see any need of mentioning in detail comaprison. Dey subrata (talk) 10:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

‎Kautilya3, no other experienced users active in this article to reach a rational consensus. Can you look into this, if you get time. Dey subrata (talk) 09:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Dey subrata, I Will wait for a debate. here is data : The BBC page is already referenced. important comparison data is was missed in original edit. The page contains : "At 2,000 rupees ($28; £22) per month, the fees are much cheaper than many private institutions." (Singaraja (talk) 10:13, 18 April 2020 (UTC))

singaraja, first its a blatant WP:COPYVIO. Secondly, it just did not give any data for private university, did it?? So why should be the mentioning of fee of the university is important in a article which is about an attack. Secondly, for any reader its more than enough to know that due to increase in fees and making it expensive central university there was a protest. Where does your line add any meaning to an attack article. Dey subrata (talk) 10:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

• Comment - Why aren't such content discussions happening on the article talk page? In any case, the fact that BBC made such a comparison is not enough reason to include it in the article. From the Indian point of view, a reasonable comparison would be with other government institutions, not private institutions. Their "markets" are entirely different. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Well the user brought the discussion here. I think in future if anyone again raises it, it can be moved to the article talk page. And absolutely, the comparison should be between the public funded university. And for that article that too not necessary, its just a background section of another topic. If the article is about fee hike protest then I would think, it be better included but since its an attack article and its a background of that article I don't think such comaprison is necessary. The existing saying enough and if anybody want to research they can go through the sources for which its provided. Dey subrata (talk) 11:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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Sonia Gandhi

Hi Subrata, please watch the Sonia Gandhi page, which is getting subjected to controversies. I made a post on the talk page, I am going to be busy the next few weeks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3, I can watch the page in literal way but cannot do anything about it. See the above concern, the ip thing. Something wrong with our community wifi. My wifi expired, and whenever I connect the community wi-fi I sometimes can edit and most of the times cannot. So, only if I get my wi-fi recharged I can do something about it. It may take few days. Dey subrata (talk) 13:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I see. Sorry to hear that. Let us wait for the 21 May, when I am told that the Battle of Panipat will be won :-). -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 Those are foolish people, what to won. Will corona going to stop on a particular day? answer is no. They should not call it as battle, calling it aa battle, the govt. is literally doing more harm to the medical staffs when you know how is the health care system of the country. Secondly, the govt. failed to convey the message to the people that lockdown is for flattening the curve not to stop corona, everyone around my neighbour is "it will be over", Studies clearly show 70-80 % of the population will be infected with time, and 40-50% will not show any symptoms, the govt. must implement smart lockdown as doing by the germany, netherlands etc, question comes, what about Indians... Indians are poor in civic sense, so this is high time to bring serious laws and reforms about traffic rules, laws about implementing civic sense like spitting, smoking, maintaining queue in bus stand or malls, hygiene of restaurants and road side thellas. And the most important and high time for Police reforms now, our laws are some how good, but the execution are bad, police should be made independent if not fully but partially atleast and high time now that the next budget should be "health, environment and education" based rather than defence based, all these sectors must see a rise in budget. I know I am trying to be more optimistic but these things will not be there. As a Govt. it should take advice from the experts afterall, and everyone know the pundit of notebandi who advised the PM. Anyway hope for the best. Dey subrata (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

It is possible to stop the coronavirus. But after that, you will be living on edge, jumping every time somebody gets infected. Countries like Sweden, Germany and to some extent UK have been following more mature strategies, trying to build herd immunity while controlling the scale of the pandemic. The problem won't go away until a vaccine comes around. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

updates

If can please update these:

- on east bengal page, add "f.c." or remove title to "fc" as two titles look different

- on persija jakarta, add "px" after logo size

- on tensung fc, add logo: https://www.google.com/search?q=tensung+fc&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ALeKk013DU7UoqstShgOdQF6S1yIMFSTFA:1588216663039&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEi5uQmI_pAhUDcZoKHeZ3A3kQ_AUoAXoECBYQAQ&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=2.63#imgrc=DQJKv92PxWFeUM

THANKS 🙏🙏🙏 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.198.186 (talk) 03:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello ip user, I think you've requested another user, they have done all your request. Dey subrata (talk) 08:39, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Panipat

Sorry, the Battle of Panipat has been delayed due to unforeseen circumstances. If you would prefer, we can arrange to send you to the region just to north of it, which goes by the name of "Kashmir". There we have only 2G available, but a perfect lockdown is in place. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 As expected, it seems like Lodi :-) does not have any idea about Babur's Cannons :-). And now they introduced a 3 zonal plan, which have no scientific base. It feels like a mason trying to over smart the civil engr. And in Kashmir it is not lockdown, but called as "clamp down", to me its a cold war :-) can't be battle of panipat indeed or can be called as the gulf crisis, first it was said for few months now going to be one year. I got my net bdw, convinced the guy for payment after 1 month :-). Dey subrata (talk) 09:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, good. Then you can join us at Talk:Sonia Gandhi. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 The birth name controversy?? Dey subrata (talk) 09:42, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it was great fun trying to figure how all these spoofs came about. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 Well I don't want to comment much here, but I now know a few things about the first user and and some of his aquintances, what they are doing. One thing is clear they are group of followers of scamster guru from the karnataka, hope you got, and they are pushing POV in every possible articles. I hope you know that many website just copy paste wikipedia materials, even established newsportal. So these guys foremost intentions are to add whatever possible in wikipedia and in the long run such things get published in news portals and website and 1000 times lie seems like a truth one day, right?. Anyway I am going through the discussion.Dey subrata (talk) 09:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Do I take it that you haven't been getting your daily dose of Republic TV? [1] -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Well I got a year dose after watching the episode with Baba Ramdev. You know what I mean, "main nahi karunga aapke saath!" I got this interesting channel where you get the juice of all these media at one place, everyweek, that too free. :-) Dey subrata (talk) 10:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

You can watch the Battle of Brox here. Less exciting, but more real. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

My opinion, only corona can save us from corona, hope it mutates more. Because I dont think a vaccine is anytime soon... And for US...Americans hardly compromise their rights....their Declaration of independece along with first amendment is too powerful, the Potus vitually and literally can't tell the people to stay at home. The right to life and liberty will be the last thing to be taken from an American, so you know why the situation in New York is such. All those friends of mine there, say the same, their rights are first thing to be given and the last thing to be taken. But when pride comes above rights, situation are ought to be like that as they think they are American and nothing will happen to them even virus can't. Above that they have total bullshit Orange Head who is giving bizzare ideas everyday and for weeks ignoring his advisors' advice. Dey subrata (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Have you watched his injecting disinfectant and bleaching technique ideas speech, it was hillarious. Only trump can fight corona, trust me :-). Dey subrata (talk) 13:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

No, I didn't. But I watched the SNL spoof of it.[2] -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Have watched now...good one. Watch this too. Here right wings say Gaumutra, but US take one step ahead of us, breast milk to fight corona :-) :-) rofl. Finally the great boon from heaven to save mankind. Dey subrata (talk) 16:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 It was a long fight for the Spartans, finally they took over Xerxes in the morning, it was Vini vidi vici moment for them. The battle formation was very unique in the history I must say, "a long single line formation with very close proximity". Only red drop matters now :-). I am wondering how Z"eus" news covered the story if they covered as did for markaz. Dey subrata (talk) 19:12, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

No mere mortals can bring down Xerxes. Zarathrushtra himself has done this. Zeus news went into an SNL mode. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Ha, ha. Didn't notice it was an old show. But it was fun. Watched it twice over. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

4th pillar strong & steady..Kautilya3, I cannot help it but to share with you. This was hillarious as well as very concerning about these anchors. I think a draft can be made now on Godi media/Lutyens media, what do you think? Dey subrata (talk) 09:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

How about this? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:03, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Ya seen this in twitter. It seems everyone now fed up with these anchors, everyone is roasting them now. Dey subrata (talk) 10:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Current Events.

Hello. I wanted to invite you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Current events as I see you have done a lot of work on Visakhapatnam gas leak, which is a current event. Hopefully you will consider joining. Elijahandskip (talk) 13:52, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Elijahandskip, I don't think I can contribute on global events, I only contribute to Indian articles. And for that I don't consider myself a suitable editor for the project. Still just for your hopeful request I am joining, will see how it goes. Dey subrata (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Invitaion

Thanks for your invitation. SHISHIR DUA (talk) 12:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

SHISHIR DUA, welcome, try to improve some article, keep in mind about WP:RS. Dey subrata (talk) 17:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Revert to Visakhapatnam gas leak

Hey there! I was just wondering why you reverted all my changes to Visakhapatnam gas leak? In my edits, I corrected significant WP:NPOV violations that need(ed) to be addressed. I agree that I mis-edited with my interpretation of the NGT's actions, that's on me, but in your edit you also revert my changes to the other sections without mentioning a reason in your edit message. ItsPugle (talk) 22:47, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

ItsPugle, I did a rollback while I did not see that you've edited multiple times. So after that I did restore the materials, you can check. Dey subrata (talk) 22:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah, all good! I hadn't gone through the edit history, so I didn't see. It does look like an important quote ("there are no reports regarding human error or negligence") was missed out though, so I've added it back as it's really important in establishing the Commission's perspective and preliminary findings (i.e. so it's not Selection Bias) :) ItsPugle (talk) 23:02, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

ItsPugle, it's a prima-facie, will be redundant with the receive of report. The commission is not saying that there is no negligence, there is no accident without negligence. Not required and no bias associated if not kept. The line "It also asked the Union Ministry of Corporate Affairs to investigate any possible breaches of workplace health and safety law."...tells what that quote wants to tell. Dey subrata (talk) 23:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I mean, at the moment, there is no report, so it stands as the primary event. And with negligence, the Commission explicitly says "no reports regarding... negligence". Anyways, accidents can occur without negligence - in a car crash where a car is T-boned because of poor visibility, there's no negligence, it's just an accident. Also, that line doesn't really convey the same meaning - that line explores legislative fault, whereas the quote about human error or negligence is about ethical guilt/wrongdoing. ItsPugle (talk) 23:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Not every metaphor suits every situation. Breaches of workplace health and safety law does not mean, just legislative law. A industry must maintain certain safety measures, this is absolute pre-requirement. Without this a single work can't be started. Govt.' duty is to check this. And a liquid monomer becoming vapour cannot be called a "car accident due to fogs". Such monomer kept under refrigeration and gas can only form if temperature is increased & if temperature was increased then refrigeration unit was not working and if the refrigeration unit was not working, someone somewhere has done some mistake, it can mistake in maintenance years back or days back or not keeping updated with the processing unit. This is not car accident. The best metaphor is, someone ate something which was delicious but actually does not suit his body and he didn't know or ignored (in both way its negligence, not knowing or ignoring), and by night he was having gas and releasing fluid. Dey subrata (talk) 23:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I mean, law is law. Here, I think it might just be best for us to agree to disagree on this :) ItsPugle (talk) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge

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Indian football champions

Respected SIR; before starting conversation with you, I want pardon from you. I will talk about List of Indian football champions. Please don't get angry to me. You have written "(number of titles)" with ISL Champions coloumn. You have added the ISL Champions to the 'Total Wins' list. I say that ISL champions don't win the 'League phase', they win the 'Playoffs' stage. 'League phase' is won by ISL Premiers, not ISL Champions. We should give more priority to the 'League phase' rather than 'Playoffs' stage. Because the AFC Champions League spot is given to ISL Premiers, not ISL Champions. So we should give more priority to the ISL Premiers rather than ISL Champions as the National champions. So respected SIR; my kindly request to you is that please write "(number of titles)" with ISL Premiers coloumn instead of ISL Premiers coloumn and please add ISL Premiers to the 'Total Wins' list and remove ISL Champions from that list. Because we should give more priority to the team who will play AFC Champions League rather than the team who will play AFC Cup. If you think my request is a wrong irrational request then forgive me. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 15:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

SAIKAT MARINERS DEY, hey, there is no need of forgiveing you, there is nothing wrong you have done. Talk page are here to resolve issues only. And neither do I owe an apology for anything. You need to go through WP:BRD. Discussion is believe to be healthy thing to do. I rather appreciate that you've brought the issue here. Now coming to your point of champion. Here is an interesting example for you, in our country we have a President who is the constituional head, the first citizen of the country and whose sign on a bill makes it a law. And there is a Prime Minister who elected by the people, become the advisor to the President. But in true sense the President does not have the power to make laws and decision, its the Prime Minister who makes the law as its clearly written in Constitution that the Parliament will make law, the elected representative of the citizens. President only listen the cabinet and sign it. I hope its now clear for you, that when literally the champion of ISL is announced after play-off wins and the cup is given to the ISL play-off winner, there should be hardly any doubt who the champion is. Getting a slot does not mean they are champion, champion is who hold the title. If tomorrow the ISL format change to that like of European championship, which I believe it will be for sure, that the league topper will be the champion, then only we will add the league topper's name. Dey subrata (talk) 16:10, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanking for clearing confusion.

Thanks SIR, you have cleared all confusion by giving the example of the President and Prime Minister. But one thing I will also tell you that ISL Premiers are also given a trophy named League Winners Shield. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 07:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes I know, but thats not champion's trophy, a shield. Dey subrata (talk) 10:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

India national team

Why are you again and again removing the kit history what I have edited abt the kit history is correct are u stupid or what — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sujan3797 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Sujan3797, have you read all the policies that are addressed for you at your talk page? Have you read the warnings? You are continuously violating policies and come to edit war. Again you have the audacity to abuse me here at my talk page, do you know the consequences. I was trying to be kind to you since you are a new user, but you dared to abuse. If I had wanted, I should have make you blocked by now. This is not your fb or twitter profile, this is wikipedia, an encyclopedia. There are guidelines and rules about how to write. First read understand, again read and read untill you memorise what is written and what you can do, what you cannot, then come to comment here at my talk page and think 10 times before what you are commenting. Dey subrata (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Request

Can you add a photo of Sahal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbfcfan (talk • contribs) 05:10, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Kbfcfan, first, please sign everytime you comment, with four tildes (~). Secondly, more than anyone I want to add pictures in every Indian player's article. But picture must be copyright free or images which are in public domain. Or if other license is there then the image should mention those and how the image should be used. Read this carefully at WP:UPIMAGE, it may help you. Finally, the picture that you have uploaded, its background is showing copyrighted to Manjappda, but uploaded as CC. BY 4.0, which does not make any sense. Again, is the photograph taken by any member of Manjappada, I doubt it. So send me any link where the photo is under public domain(CC. BY 4.0) or if any limited use also (CC. BY 3.0)..I'll upload, or if you are a member of Manjappada then if you people directly interact with players then click simple photos of player and upload them directly without any creativity. Dey subrata (talk) 08:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

About my edits

Thank you for sending me the links to the various guidelines. But I saw that you reverted my edits in Zee News and Ravish Kumar taking someone else's name in both cases.

I know that my edits were logically right. I saw that Ravish Kumar's achievements and Zee News' criticisms were repeated twice. So, I made them rest in a single place. I didn't remove them completely, remember that. You may think that I am inclined towards a particular section of people. But have an equal perspective towards both of the sections. I respect Ravish Kumar, and so I brought his ACHIEVEMENTS on the INTRODUCTORY PAGE (as you desired). I am also not disrespectful of Zee News, but still they had been in some controversies, and so I would have liked to direct the readers towards the FULL LIST OF CONTROVERSIES. Thank you. Arnab2305 (talk) 15:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Arnab2305, no, I am not concerned about your inclination, I'm simply concerned about any policy based violation or edits which are not per guidelines. I reverted what was right to do per guidelines. There is a structure of article and there are style how to write an article. A lead is not written the way you have edited. And materials in lead is supposed to be repeated in the main body. Lead is for any reader who just want to know subject in brief, a summarised concept of the subject. That's why I've added the link so that you can contribute in wikipedia in more constructive way. I hope you will go through them thoroughly. And coming to news thing the same thing you have mentioned, repeatation of materials in lead, which are obvious to be repeated in the body in details. Any way you must go through WP:PG, here you will find everything about wikipedia and how best to contribute. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I will read the guidelines and would try to improve my articles. Thanks. Arnab2305 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan and ATK

Hey, just catching up on things. I'm assuming for the Mohun Bagan and ATK "merger", we will continue using the Mohun Bagan A.C. page while ATK will have the club has dissolved. So no new page will need to be continued. From what I understand, the new club will continue on with Mohun Bagan's history, so it isn't like Bagan as a club is dissolving. Let me know obviously if I got this wrong. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

ArsenalFan700, well still not so clear. But from interviews and words it seems like they will be going with Bagan's history since, ATK does not mean anything valuable than Amar Tomar Kolkata. Debashis Dutta in an interview told that they will not compromise with the face value of the club whoever the sponsor is and Goenka also in an interview told, he respects Bagan's history and its importance and importance in the freedom struggle too and emotion attached with Bagan and East Bengal's heritage, the kolkata football culture associated with these club. Dutta even told that, there will not be any major change in the logo, the Bengal heritage boat will be there and colour may be there too. So from words for now it does not seem like that they are interested with ATK's history which is minuscule, and they know very well that the huge fan force behind Bagan, what kind of backlash and economic failure they may see. But we need to wait for atleast the coming 2-3 month to get things more clear. Dey subrata (talk) 16:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

True. Hm, so from the looks of it, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up just renaming the Mohun Bagan page to whatever the new name is, keeping the history the same, that the club was formed in 1889, etc. and then adding "dissolved" to the ATK page. But like you said, let us wait and see. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

ArsenalFan700, are you actively lately? Wonder if you are working on any project or new article. Let me know if any of the article I can collaborate. Dey subrata (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I am starting to get back into it. I had a take a break because eventually it just felt like a job and it wasn't helping me. Also, we had that squabble on the India national football team page BUT I have seen the work you have been doing and I love it. I'm just starting to take it slow and then eventually will ramp it up. I'm starting by creating pages for Indian players that have played in ISL and I-League but don't have a page yet and then maybe redoing the Hyderabad FC and NorthEast United pages. Perfect timing to get these done considering the pandemic and that football news is going to be slow. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

ArsenalFan700, well such happens in the starting, no hard feelings towards you, I overreacted for sure, wasn't I ! . And thanks for appreciating my contributions, did whatever I could. For now, me and coderzombie are dealing with the pages, few other new users too joined, mostly supporters of individual clubs I must say, do edits at ISL/I league related pages. I mostly stick to creating or upgrading articles to GA/FA/FL football and other sports too, and when league is there edit mostly the league pages, and piecing together informations about former players. Right now have a plan to work on Bhutia and Chhetri's article in coming days, will go for GA nom. Dey subrata (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Haha, same here. I think we all want these pages to be great at the end of the day so let's continue doing so. Yeah, I saw that you said that you wanted to work on those pages. I actually started a draft of the Chhetri article a while ago. Let me see if I can dig it out and how I can help. Also, happy to know there are more editors. When I started back in 2010 there was literally no one besides this one user who isn't here anymore. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, fine, let me know if you get it, I surely want to go through once. And I will let you know once I start working on the articles. Dey subrata (talk) 01:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good mate! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)