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May 2023

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Thanks, will you move the article for me please? Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I've attempted to move it back to it's original state (I couldn't fully do it as I don't have the user rights to delete redirects) as I can't find a discussion relating to the moving of it, if you could link me to one, I will get it moved in a short while. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Help talk:William Haughey, Baron Haughey to William Haughey, Baron Haughey Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

That isn't a discussion, that is a request from you which hasn't been discussed, you can open a discussion at requested moves. Thanks, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 18:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know how you do it. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. If you need further assistance just ask. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

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Capital letters

Please stop capitalising director general of the BBC. You should read MOS:JOB and realising you are doing this incorrectly. - SchroCat (talk) 09:40, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

I second that wise request. Whatever our personal preferences, we all need to abide by the rules of any organisation we join, and Wikipedia's manual of style is crystal clear: we don't capitalise job titles like this. And, a word to the wise: don't keep reverting changes you don't like: repeated reversion will get you banned from editing. Tim riley talk 13:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Ex officio members

Earl Marshal

The Earl Marshal is an hereditary post held by the Duke of Norfolk.

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Tenure
	Miles Fitzalan-Howard, 17th Duke of Norfolk	31 January 1975	24 June 2002
	Edward Fitzalan-Howard, 18th Duke of Norfolk	24 June 2002	present

Lord Great Chamberlain

The Lord Great Chamberlain is a Hereditary office in gross post between Cholmondeley Ancaster and Carrington familes.

In 1902 it was ruled by the House of Lords that the then joint office holders (the 1st Earl of Ancaster, the 4th Marquess of Cholmondeley, and the Earl Carrington, later Marquess of Lincolnshire) had to agree on a deputy to exercise the office, subject to the approval of the Sovereign. Should there be no such agreement, the Sovereign should appoint a deputy until an agreement be reached.

In 1912 an agreement was reached. The office, or right to appoint the person to exercise the office, would thereafter rotate among the three joint office holders and their heirs after them, changing at the start of each successive reign. Cholmondeley and his heirs would serve in every other reign; Ancaster and Carrington would each serve once in four reigns.

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Tenure
	David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley	13 March 1990	8 September 2022
	Rupert Carington, 7th Baron Carrington	8 September 2022	present

Elected by the whole House

Sitting

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords		Party	First sat	Elected	Replacing
	Euan Geddes, 3rd Baron Geddes		Conservative	1975	1999	–
	John Eccles, 2nd Viscount Eccles (left the house in 1999)		Conservative	1999	4 April 2005		Morys Bruce, 4th Baron Aberdare
	David Pollock, 3rd Viscount Hanworth (left the house in 1999)		Labour	1996	22 March 2011		David Kenworthy, 11th Baron Strabolgi
	Charles Colville, 5th Viscount Colville of Culross		Crossbencher	2011	20 July 2011		Geoffrey Russell, 4th Baron Ampthill
	Jamie Borwick, 5th Baron Borwick		Conservative	2013	17 July 2013		Hugh Mackay, 14th Lord Reay
	Raymond Asquith, 3rd Earl of Oxford and Asquith Elected as Liberal Democrat; became non-affiliated in 2019, Crossbencher in 2021		Crossbencher	2014	21 October 2014		Robert Methuen, 7th Baron Methuen
	Alastair Campbell, 4th Baron Colgrain		Conservative	2017	27 March 2017		Charles Lyell, 3rd Baron Lyell
	Aeneas Mackay, 15th Lord Reay		Conservative	2019	22 January 2019		Roger Bootle-Wilbraham, 7th Baron Skelmersdale
	Richard Denison, 9th Baron Londesborough (left the house in 1999)		Crossbencher	1996	16 June 2021		Margaret of Mar, 31st Countess of Mar
	Jasset Ormsby-Gore, 7th Baron Harlech		Conservative	2021	14 July 2021		Rodney Elton, 2nd Baron Elton
	David Hacking, 3rd Baron Hacking (left the house in 1999)		Labour	1971	10 November 2021		Jan David Simon, 3rd Viscount Simon
	Massey Lopes, 4th Baron Roborough		Conservative	2022	18 October 2022		Nicholas Lowther, 2nd Viscount Ullswater
	Timothy Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound, 7th Earl of Minto		Conservative	2022	18 October 2022		Anthony Hamilton-Smith, 3rd Baron Colwyn
	John Russell, 7th Earl Russell		Liberal Democrat	2023	13 June 2023		Lucius Cary, 15th Viscount Falkland

Deceased

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords		Party	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Died
	George Makgill, 13th Viscount of Oxfuird		Conservative	1986	1999	–	3 January 2003
	Morys Bruce, 4th Baron Aberdare		Conservative	1957	1999	–	23 January 2005
	David Kenworthy, 11th Baron Strabolgi		Labour	1953	1999	–	24 December 2010
	Geoffrey Russell, 4th Baron Ampthill		Crossbencher	1973	1999	–	23 April 2011
	Hugh Mackay, 14th Lord Reay		Conservative	1963	1999	–	10 May 2013
	Robert Methuen, 7th Baron Methuen		Liberal Democrats	1994	1999	–	9 July 2014
	Charles Lyell, 3rd Baron Lyell		Conservative	1960	1999	–	11 January 2017
	Roger Bootle-Wilbraham, 7th Baron Skelmersdale		Conservative	1973	1999	–	31 October 2018
	Jan David Simon, 3rd Viscount Simon		Labour	1993	1999	–	15 August 2021
	Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux		Conservative	1968	1999	–	27 August 2023

Resigned

Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords		Party	First sat	Elected	Replacing		Resigned	Died
	Margaret of Mar, 31st Countess of Mar		Crossbencher	1975	1999	–		1 May 2020
	Rodney Elton, 2nd Baron Elton		Conservative	1973	1999	–		29 October 2020	19 August 2023
	Nicholas Lowther, 2nd Viscount Ullswater (left the house in 1999)		Conservative	1966	2003		George Makgill, 13th Viscount of Oxfuird	20 July 2022
	Anthony Hamilton-Smith, 3rd Baron Colwyn		Conservative	1966	1999	–		21 July 2022
	Lucius Cary, 15th Viscount Falkland Elected as Liberal Democrat; joined Crossbenchers in 2011		Crossbencher	1984	1999	–		21 March 2023

Elected by the Conservative hereditary peers

Sitting Conservative peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Imperial peerage	First sat	Elected	Replacing
	Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde		1986	1999	–
	David Trefgarne, 2nd Baron Trefgarne		1962	1999	–
	Benjamin Mancroft, 3rd Baron Mancroft		1987	1999	–
	Frederick Curzon, 7th Earl Howe		1984	1999	–
	Malcolm Sinclair, 20th Earl of Caithness		1969	1999	–
	Oliver Eden, 8th Baron Henley	Baron Northington	1977	1999	–
	Simon Arthur, 4th Baron Glenarthur		1976	1999	–
	William Astor, 4th Viscount Astor		1972	1999	–
	Patrick Stopford, 9th Earl of Courtown	Baron Saltersford	1975	1999	–
	William Peel, 3rd Earl Peel Joined Crossbencher in 2006 on becoming Lord Chamberlain		1973	1999	–
	Colin Moynihan, 4th Baron Moynihan		1997	1999	–
	John Attlee, 3rd Earl Attlee		1992	1999	–
	Giles Goschen, 4th Viscount Goschen		1986	1999	–
	James Graham, 8th Duke of Montrose	Earl Graham	1992	1999	–
	Robin Bridgeman, 3rd Viscount Bridgeman		1982	1999	–
	James Lindesay-Bethune, 16th Earl of Lindsay		1989	1999	–
	Ralph Palmer, 12th Baron Lucas		1991	1999	–
	James Dugdale, 2nd Baron Crathorne		1977	1999	–
	David Verney, 21st Baron Willoughby de Broke Joined UKIP in 2007; non-affiliated from 2018		1986	1999	–
	Richard Fletcher-Vane, 2nd Baron Inglewood Left party to become non-affiliated in 2018		1989	1999	–
	Francis Baring, 6th Baron Northbrook		1990	1999	–
	Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, 22nd Earl of Shrewsbury		1980	1999	–
	Edward Foljambe, 5th Earl of Liverpool		1969	1999	–
	Arthur Gore, 9th Earl of Arran	Baron Sudley	1983	1999	–
	Alexander Scrymgeour, 12th Earl of Dundee	Baron Glassary	1983	1999	–
	Hugh Trenchard, 3rd Viscount Trenchard (left the house in 1999)		1987	27 May 2004	Nicholas Vivian, 6th Baron Vivian
	Rupert Ponsonby, 7th Baron de Mauley		2005	14 March 2005	Hugh Lawson, 6th Baron Burnham
	Charles Cathcart, 7th Earl Cathcart (left the house in 1999)		1999	7 March 2007	Charles Stourton, 26th Baron Mowbray
	James Younger, 5th Viscount Younger of Leckie		2010	23 June 2010	David Carnegie, 14th Earl of Northesk
	Henry Ashton, 4th Baron Ashton of Hyde		2011	20 July 2011	Michael Onslow, 7th Earl of Onslow
	Charles Wellesley, 9th Duke of Wellington Left party to become non-affiliated in 2019, joined Crossbenches 2020		2015	16 September 2015	Arthur Lawson Johnston, 3rd Baron Luke
	Nicholas Fairfax, 14th Lord Fairfax of Cameron (left the house in 1999)		1977	24 November 2015	Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu, 3rd Baron Montagu of Beaulieu
	James Bethell, 5th Baron Bethell		2018	18 July 2018	Robin Dixon, 3rd Baron Glentoran
	Guy Mansfield, 6th Baron Sandhurst		2021	14 June 2021	John Palmer, 4th Earl of Selborne
	Thomas Coke, 8th Earl of Leicester		2021	14 June 2021	Bertram Bowyer, 2nd Baron Denham
	Sebastian Grigg, 4th Baron Altrincham		2021	14 June 2021	Malcolm Mitchell-Thomson, 3rd Baron Selsdon
	Ian Macpherson, 3rd Baron Strathcarron		2022	8 February 2022	Matthew White Ridley, 5th Viscount Ridley
	Jonathan Berry, 5th Viscount Camrose		2022	29 March 2022	Robin Cayzer, 3rd Baron Rotherwick
	Philip Remnant, 4th Baron Remnant		2022	5 July 2022	Ivon Moore-Brabazon, 3rd Baron Brabazon of Tara
	Clifton Wrottesley, 6th Baron Wrottesley (left the house in 1999)		1993	5 July 2022	Roger Swinfen Eady, 3rd Baron Swinfen
	Edward Howard, 8th Earl of Effingham		2022	20 October 2022	John Astor, 3rd Baron Astor of Hever
	Mark Cubitt, 5th Baron Ashcombe		2022	20 October 2022	David Douglas-Home, 15th Earl of Home

Deceased Conservative peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Imperial peerage	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Died
	Nicholas Vivian, 6th Baron Vivian		1991	1999	–	28 February 2004
	Hugh Lawson, 6th Baron Burnham		1993	1999	–	1 January 2005
	Charles Stourton, 26th Baron Mowbray		1965	1999	–	12 December 2006
	David Carnegie, 14th Earl of Northesk		1994	1999	–	28 March 2010
	Michael Onslow, 7th Earl of Onslow		1971	1999	–	14 May 2011
	Robert Shirley, 13th Earl Ferrers		1954	1999	–	13 November 2012
	Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu, 3rd Baron Montagu of Beaulieu		1947	1999	–	31 August 2015
	Roger Swinfen Eady, 3rd Baron Swinfen		1977	1999	–	5 June 2022
	David Douglas-Home, 15th Earl of Home	Baron Douglas	1995	1999	–	22 August 2022

Resigned Conservative peers

Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Resigned	Died
	Arthur Lawson Johnston, 3rd Baron Luke	1996	1999	–	24 June 2015	2 October 2015
	Robin Dixon, 3rd Baron Glentoran	1995	1999	–	1 June 2018
	John Palmer, 4th Earl of Selborne Left party to become non-affiliated in 2019	1971	1999	–	26 March 2020	12 February 2021
	Bertram Bowyer, 2nd Baron Denham	1949	1999	–	26 April 2021	1 December 2021
	Matthew White Ridley, 5th Viscount Ridley	2013	6 February 2013	Robert Shirley, 13th Earl Ferrers	17 December 2021
	Robin Cayzer, 3rd Baron Rotherwick	1996	1999	–	1 February 2022
	Ivon Moore-Brabazon, 3rd Baron Brabazon of Tara	1976	1999	–	28 April 2022
	John Astor, 3rd Baron Astor of Hever	1984	1999	–	22 July 2022

Removed Conservative peers

Pursuant to section 2 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Removed	Died
	Malcolm Mitchell-Thomson, 3rd Baron Selsdon	1963	1999	–	11 May 2021

Elected by the Crossbencher hereditary peers

Sitting Crossbench peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Imperial peerage	First sat	Elected	Replacing
	Valerian Freyberg, 3rd Baron Freyberg		1993	1999	–
	Anthony St John, 22nd Baron St John of Bletso		1978	1999	–
	John Montagu, 11th Earl of Sandwich		1995	1999	–
	Alan Brooke, 3rd Viscount Brookeborough		1987	1999	–
	Merlin Hay, 24th Earl of Erroll		1978	1999	–
	Janric Craig, 3rd Viscount Craigavon		1974	1999	–
	John Anderson, 3rd Viscount Waverley		1990	1999	–
	Ambrose Greenway, 4th Baron Greenway		1975	1999	–
	Peter St Clair-Erskine, 7th Earl of Rosslyn		1979	1999	–
	John Dalrymple, 14th Earl of Stair (left the house in 1999)	Baron Oxenfoord	1996	22 May 2008	Davina Ingrams, 18th Baroness Darcy de Knayth
	Alastair Bruce, 5th Baron Aberdare		2009	15 July 2009	Christopher Bathurst, 3rd Viscount Bledisloe
	Nicholas Trench, 9th Earl of Clancarty (left the house in 1999)	Viscount Clancarty Baron Trench	1995	23 June 2010	Mark Colville, 4th Viscount Colville of Culross
	John Lytton, 5th Earl of Lytton (left the house in 1999)		1985	11 May 2011	John Monson, 11th Baron Monson
	Godfrey Bewicke-Copley, 7th Baron Cromwell (left the house in 1999)		1982	8 April 2014	John Wilson, 2nd Baron Moran
	Simon Russell, 3rd Baron Russell of Liverpool (left the house in 1999)		1981	9 December 2014	Michael Allenby, 3rd Viscount Allenby
	John Seymour, 19th Duke of Somerset (left the house in 1999)		1984	9 December 2014	David Lytton-Cobbold, 2nd Baron Cobbold
	Roualeyn Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce, 9th Baron Thurlow		2015	3 February 2015	Roger Chorley, 2nd Baron Chorley
	Charles Hay, 16th Earl of Kinnoull	Baron Hay of Pedwardine	2015	3 February 2015	Flora Fraser, 21st Lady Saltoun
	Jeffrey Evans, 4th Baron Mountevans		2015	6 July 2015	William Lloyd George, 3rd Viscount Tenby
	Patrick Lawrence, 5th Baron Trevethin		2015	20 October 2015	David Montgomery, 2nd Viscount Montgomery of Alamein
	John Boyle, 15th Earl of Cork and Orrery	Baron Boyle of Marston	2016	12 July 2016	Thomas Bridges, 2nd Baron Bridges
	Richard Gilbey, 12th Baron Vaux of Harrowden		2017	19 July 2017	Robert Walpole, 10th Baron Walpole
	Charles Courtenay, 19th Earl of Devon		2018	4 July 2018	Edward Baldwin, 4th Earl Baldwin of Bewdley
	Rupert Carington, 7th Baron Carrington Became Lord Great Chamberlain in 2022		2018	28 November 2018	Christopher James, 5th Baron Northbourne
	Daniel Mosley, 4th Baron Ravensdale		2019	27 March 2019	John Slim, 2nd Viscount Slim
	John Pakington, 7th Baron Hampton		2022	19 October 2022	Francis Hare, 6th Earl of Listowel
	James Meston, 3rd Baron Meston (left the house in 1999)		1984	19 September 2023	Adrian Palmer, 4th Baron Palmer
	Miles Russell, 28th Baron de Clifford		2023	19 September 2023	Raymond Jolliffe, 5th Baron Hylton

Deceased Crossbench peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Died
	Ziki Robertson, 11th Baroness Wharton	1990	1999	–	15 May 2000
	Henry Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon	1987	1999	–	10 September 2001
	Cherry Drummond, 16th Baroness Strange	1986	1999	–	11 March 2005
	Davina Ingrams, 18th Baroness Darcy de Knayth (Entered the house under the Peerage Act 1963)	1963	1999	–	24 February 2008
	Christopher Bathurst, 3rd Viscount Bledisloe	1979	1999	–	12 May 2009
	Mark Colville, 4th Viscount Colville of Culross	1954	1999	–	8 April 2010
	John Monson, 11th Baron Monson	1958	1999	–	12 February 2011
	John Wilson, 2nd Baron Moran	1977	1999	–	14 February 2014
	Michael Allenby, 3rd Viscount Allenby	1984	1999	–	3 October 2014
	John Slim, 2nd Viscount Slim	1970	1999	–	12 January 2019
	Adrian Palmer, 4th Baron Palmer	1990	1999	–	10 July 2023

Resigned Crossbench peers

Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Imperial peerage	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Resigned	Died
	David Lytton-Cobbold, 2nd Baron Cobbold (left the house in 1999)		1987	15 October 2000	Ziki Robertson, 11th Baroness Wharton	13 October 2014	10 May 2022
	Roger Chorley, 2nd Baron Chorley (left the house in 1999)		1987	11 September 2001	Henry Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon	17 November 2014	21 February 2016
	Flora Fraser, 21st Lady Saltoun		1979	1999	–	12 December 2014
	William Lloyd George, 3rd Viscount Tenby		1983	1999	–	1 May 2015	12 June 2023
	David Montgomery, 2nd Viscount Montgomery of Alamein (left the house in 1999)		1976	28 June 2005	Cherry Drummond, 16th Baroness Strange	23 July 2015	8 January 2020
	Robert Walpole, 10th Baron Walpole		1989	1999	–	13 June 2017	8 May 2021
	Edward Baldwin, 4th Earl Baldwin of Bewdley		1976	1999	–	9 May 2018	16 June 2021
	Christopher James, 5th Baron Northbourne		1982	1999	–	4 September 2018	8 September 2019
	Francis Hare, 6th Earl of Listowel	Baron Hare	1997	1999	–	21 July 2022
	Raymond Jolliffe, 5th Baron Hylton		1968	1999	–	27 July 2023

Removed Crossbench peers

Pursuant to section 2 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Removed	Died
	Thomas Bridges, 2nd Baron Bridges	1969	1999	–	18 May 2016	27 May 2017

Elected by the Labour hereditary peers

Sitting Labour peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing
	John Suenson-Taylor, 3rd Baron Grantchester (left the house in 1999)	1995	4 November 2003	Michael Milner, 2nd Baron Milner of Leeds
	Stephen Benn, 3rd Viscount Stansgate	2021	10 July 2021	Nicolas Rea, 3rd Baron Rea

Deceased Labour peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Died
	Michael Milner, 2nd Baron Milner of Leeds	1967	1999	–	20 August 2003
	Nicolas Rea, 3rd Baron Rea	1982	1999	–	1 June 2020

Elected by the Liberal Democrats hereditary peers

Sitting Liberal Democrats peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	Imperial peerage	First sat	Elected	Replacing
	Dominic Hubbard, 6th Baron Addington		1982	1999	–
	Patrick Boyle, 10th Earl of Glasgow (left the house in 1999)	Baron Fairlie	1984	25 January 2005	Conrad Russell, 5th Earl Russell
	John Archibald Sinclair, 3rd Viscount Thurso (left the house in 1999)		1995	19 April 2016	Eric Lubbock, 4th Baron Avebury

Deceased Liberal Democrats peers

#	Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords	First sat	Elected	Replacing	Died
	Conrad Russell, 5th Earl Russell	1987	1999	–	14 October 2004
	Eric Lubbock, 4th Baron Avebury	1971	1999	–	14 February 2016

Links

There is no need to change links as you did for example here. In fact the practice is discouraged. See WP:NOTBROKEN. DuncanHill (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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Piped links

Hi,

I've just reverted your edit at "Dave Lee Travis". The Manual of Style recommends against using a "piped" link where a redirect will do. Please see MOS:NOPIPE, WP:NOPIPE and WP:NOTBROKEN.

Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello again,

Could you slow down and discuss this?

Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok I will have a break. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I'd really like to understand what it is you're trying to do. Adding a "pipe" to pages that already have a link to (for example) "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act" doesn't change the displayed text or the target page, but complicates the source code. Changing the text to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" may be technically more correct, but it's cumbersome to read, which is presumably why the shorter form is generally used. What I'd really like to avoid is a situation where I end up chasing you around reverting your edits. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 will have this from now on. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Whoah! Slow down! If that's the preferred form that's arrived at by consensus, the best thing to do would be to either move the page that's currently at "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" to "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" and update the links as required, or create a redirect from "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967". But you're making these changes - that affect many pages - unilaterally, without discussion. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Hang on it will have this format Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967|Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 with [[]]. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

You can use <nowiki></nowiki> and <code></code> tags to show code. So you're saying that you've decided that the standard form will be "[[Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967|Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967]]". If that's the consensus position, the right thing to do would be what I suggested above - either move the page or create a redirect. But you haven't sought consensus for these changes that affect many pages. Let's talk about the best way to proceed. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

That is the format which is on each article. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

That's the format that you've decided to impose on every article! It's not just there - you put it there! I don't think it's the right format, for the reasons I explained above. We should either move the page, or make a new redirect. So please stop forcing this change through, and discuss it with me, as I asked you to ten days ago. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

OK, each article should have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 where as some have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act or Marine (Offences) Act, it looks standard across the board as Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

No, it does not have to be exactly the same in each article. Edits like this are at best a waste of time. DuncanHill (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I understand the urge to have a consistent format, and I also think it's a good idea to use a simplified, readable form for the displayed text, rather than using the full title "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" every time the act is mentioned. For the reasons explained at MOS:NOPIPE and WP:NOPIPE, creating "piped" links as you've been doing isn't the best way to do this. I'd like to ask for broader input as this affects so many pages. Could you suggest the best way to go about it, DuncanHill? Would an RfC be a good idea? I'm not experienced in these matters. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no need for an RfC or anything else, just for Earl of Sutton Coldfield to stop it! DuncanHill (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I have stopped now. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. But really you should have stopped to discuss this ten days ago when I asked you to. You've taken a lot of time and effort to make a lot of changes that in general are not helpful, and that could have been avoided with a little discussion.

I agree with DuncanHill that there's no need to have complete uniformity in the title of the act. The full, correct title is cumbersome to use, and in many cases the context will make the "1967" date unnecessary. But the current variety of titles in use isn't ideal either. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

For example, if you look at the changes you made at "Dave Lee Travis", you've added "1967" to the displayed text, but the sentence begins, "In 1967 ...", so repeating the date is unnecessary. You've also added the "piped" link to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" which isn't displayed, and serves no purpose, since the original link redirected to the same page.

Why not create a redirect from "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" and use that as the short form when the date isn't clear from context? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Allied Commission

Bulgaria

No.	Portrait	Chairman of the Commission	Took office	Left office	Time in office	Defence branch
1		Marshal of the Soviet Union Fyodor Tolbukhin (1894–1949)	28 September 1944	15 September 1947	2 years, 11 months	Soviet Army

Finland

No.	Portrait	Chairman of the Commission	Took office	Left office	Time in office
1		Andrei Zhdanov (1896–1948)	22 September 1944	15 September 1947	2 years, 11 months

Hungary

No.	Portrait	Chairman of the Commission	Took office	Left office	Time in office	Defence branch
1	Kliment Voroshilov	Marshal of the Soviet Union Kliment Voroshilov (1881–1969)	20 January 1945	15 September 1947	2 years, 7 months	Soviet Army

Italy

No.	Portrait	Chairman of the Commission	Took office	Left office	Time in office	Defence branch
1	Kliment Voroshilov	Marshal of the Soviet Union Kliment Voroshilov (1881–1969)	20 January 1945	15 September 1947	2 years, 7 months	Soviet Army

Romania

No.	Portrait	Chairman of the Commission	Took office	Left office	Time in office	Defence branch
1		Marshal of the Soviet Union Rodion Malinovsky (1898–1967)	12 September 1944	15 September 1947	3 years	Soviet Army

Jan Smuts medals

South Africa

• Dekoratie voor Trouwe Dienst
• Efficiency Decoration
• Medalje voor de Anglo-Boere Oorlog
• Union of South Africa Commemoration Medal File:Union of South Africa Commemoration Medal (ribbon).png after the Coronation Medals

From Wikimedia Commons, the free media United Kingdom

• 1939–1945 Star File:Ribbon - 1939-45 Star.png
• Africa Star File:Ribbon - Africa Star.png
• Italy Star File:Ribbon - Italy Star.png
• France and Germany Star File:Ribbon - France and Germany Star.png
• Defence Medal File:Ribbon - Defence Medal.png
• War Medal 1939–1945 File:Ribbon - War Medal.png
• Africa Service Medal File:Ribbon - Africa Service Medal.png

• King George V Silver Jubilee Medal
• King George VI Coronation Medal
• [[

Decorations (Shown in order in which appointments were made, not order of precedence)

Decoration from Commonwealth realms

Country	Date	Appointment	Ribbon	Post-nominal letters
United Kingdom Union of South Africa	1 January 1947	Order of Merit		OM
	4 June 1917	Order of the Companions of Honour		CH
		1914–15 Star
	26 July 1919	British War Medal
	1919	Victory Medal
	1945	1939–45 Star
	1945	Atlantic Star
	1945	Africa Star
	1945	Burma Star
	1945	Italy Star
	1945	Defence Medal
	1945	War Medal 1939–1945
		Naval General Service Medal
	6 May 1935	King George V Silver Jubilee Medal
	12 May 1937	King George VI Coronation Medal
2 June 1953	Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Medal
6 February 1977	Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal

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Trophies	Country	First Contested	Holder	Last won
Bledisloe Cup	New Zealand	2 July 1932	New Zealand	3 August 2002
Trophée des Bicentenaires	France	4 November 1989	France	17 July 2021
Ella-Mobbs Trophy	England	23 July 1997	England	17 November 2012
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Mandela Challenge Plate	South Africa	8 July 2000	South Africa	3 September 2022
Puma Trophy	Argentina	17 June 2000	Argentina	13 August 2022
Tom Richards Cup	British and Irish Lions	30 June 2001	British and Irish Lions	14 July 2001
James Bevan Trophy	Wales	26 May 2007	Australia	26 November 2022

Ofcom

Channel   Year	British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)	Independent Television (ITV)	Sianel Pedwar Cymru (S4C)	Channel 4	Channel 5	ILR	Cable	Satellite	VOD	Engineering	Complaints	Taste and Decency	Telephones	Post
1 January 1927	BBC Board of Governors	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
4 August 1954		ITA								ITA
12 July 1972		IBA				IBA				IBA
1 June 1981											BCC
1 November 1982			S4C Authority
2 November 1982				IBA
1 October 1984												Oftel
1 December 1984							Cable Authority
11 December 1986								IBA
16 May 1988
1 January 1991		ITC		ITC		Radio Authority	ITC			NTL
30 March 1997					ITC
1 April 1997											BSC
2000
29 December 2003		Ofcom		Ofcom							Ofcom
29 July 2005										Arqiva
1 January 2007	BBC Trust
18 March 2010									ATVOD
1 October 2011
1 January 2016									Ofcom
3 April 2017

Blocked as a sockpuppet

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts as a sockpuppet of User:Mr Hall of England per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mr Hall of England. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

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Request reason:

I am not Mr Hall of England, I may copy the edits but I am not the same person, also if we can have a Zoom meeting I am willing to do that.Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 13:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You need to address the concerns raised at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mr Hall of England. And no, no zoom meetings. There's no possibility that would clear you. Yamla (talk) 13:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I maintain I am not this editor, I have copied the idea from this person but I am not this person, I thought giving the peers this is a good idea, I didn't know about those editors, genuinely Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

If you copied the idea from a blocked user, that was a poor decision. That's called meat puppetry. 331dot (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Stop

You have access to this talk page solely so you can contest your block. --Yamla (talk) 13:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

OK, but I am editing a draft on my Talkpage, but I am not this sock puppet, I may do the same edits but name me an editor who does similar edits. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 14:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

No. You have access to this talk page solely to contest your block. Do not do anything else here. --Yamla (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive.

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