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MediaWiki message delivery 19:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Need clarification

Hi @Eejit43

Thanks for paying attention to my translation of Teghenyats Monastery. You've sent it to draft without mentioning the reason. To be able to improve it I need your comments to know where exatly pay attention to.

Best regards

@Nare Adams Nare Adams (talk) 07:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

@Nare Adams I actually did specify a reason, that being that it needs more sources to establish notability. In fact, the far majority of the text is unreferenced and needs reliable sources in order to both prove notability, and back up the claims made in the text.
The text is also not entirely written in a neutral tone, and I see some puffery wording. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:48, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
@Eejit43 thanks for clarifications. I added sources, while the "puffery wording" is pure citation from the historians of the time. Hope you will have time to review the new version of the article. Nare Adams (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
The entirety of "Architectural structures" and the far majority of "The Archaeological Description" remain unreferenced. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
@Eejit43
I appriciate your attention and aspiration to improve the article, but I have a problem. Now I can't find the article. Can you help me with it? Nare Adams (talk) 20:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
It is located at Draft:Teghenyats Monastery :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

afcrc-helper stuck on categories

Hi Eejit43 and thank you for the afcrc-helper script you created!

One small problem: the script seems to be stuck on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Categories. When the tool is used, it's simply blank without any requests or error messages displayed. Clicking "run" makes it show "No requests have been handled!".

However, the script works fine on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects, so I don't really know what's going on.

I would greatly appreciate it if you could look into this issue.

CanonNi (talk) 12:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

I'll take a look shortly, it is likely getting caught on parsing something in a request... ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I've added some new checks to handle more variations in the way requests are written, and it should now run properly! Thanks so much for reporting, and I'm glad you're finding the script useful! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
The script now works. Thank you so much! CanonNi (talk) 14:27, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 17:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

"Category request" and "Redirect request" heading prefixes

Hi,

thanks for all your work at WP:AfC/R! It occurred to me just now that putting "Category request" at the start of every section heading on the category requests page and "Redirect request" on the redirect requests page doesn't make much sense. It did make sense when there was a joint page for both, obviously, but now it's just clutter. Dropping the phrases wouldn't make much of a difference on the pages themselves, I'd say - but it would be quite noticeable in their sidebar ToCs, where they currently have the effect of making many entries a line longer than they really need to be. To illustrate:



I know next to nothing about the automated aspect of these pages, though, so I figured I'd just pass this thought along to someone who hopefully knows a bit more.

Thanks again!

- 2A02:560:5829:B000:74F7:8956:BE7C:7E36 (talk) 21:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

That's a very good idea! The only issue I could see running into would be for empty requests, but I think we could work around that. I'll propose this to other editors and see what they think! Thank you! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 21:43, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong has been nominated for splitting

 

Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong has been nominated for splitting

 

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion has been nominated for merging

 

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

A happy lizard for you!

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Thanks for your recent update of the redirect-helper script. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia has been nominated for renaming

 

Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Re: Rosa

Thanks, automation error when trying to clean up that whole redirect subcategory. Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

No worries! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Overlinking

Please don't relink commonly known words for musical instruments and singing. See WP:OVERLINK. Tony (talk) 04:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry?? What is this in reference to? ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Change made for Red Line

Dear @Eejit43,

The Karnataka State Govt had prepared the DPR for this new line and I've attached the references for this proposed line. Kindly check and revert back the page. Thank you. Santosh4118 (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't contest that, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and the track's notability hasn't been proven. I'm not going to edit war with you, however, and will wait for another reviewer to take a look. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 17:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Redirect-helper script

Sorry to bother you— would you mind adding the {{r to natural disambiguation}} rcat to the list of available templates in your redirect-helper script? Thanks, Cremastra (talk) 19:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Of course! If you could add it to WP:ALLRCATS (along with {{R from natural disambiguation}} it seems...), that would help, as I have a a script that parses templates from that list. If not I'll get to it later today. Thanks for pointing that out! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Done— thanks, I hadn't seen that listing before. Cremastra (talk) 20:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Done on my end! Thanks so much!   ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Aruba has been nominated for splitting

 

Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Aruba has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Is there a way for you guys at categories for creation to take a more critical eye to the Churches by dependent territory? I've had a bring a ton of these to CFD lately. The IP that's requesting them is a known troll WP:LTA/HKGW. Mason (talk) 00:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, I wasn't aware of this LTA case. To be honest the categories seemed fine when going through them originally, especially as there are likely more pages that would apply. I'm not opposed to any of the proposals you have made, and please do check the previous approved requests at WP:AFC/C if you'd like.
I'll make sure not to accept any similar requests, thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
No worries! I wasn't aware that it was a long-term issue until a day or two ago. And, I agree that on the surface the nominations look fine, but what seems to happen is two things: 1) the category doesn't actually need diffusion by century, and 2) the IP is taking a really unique interpretation of dependent territory, and is using this as a means to remove them from the parent nation the category is nested in. Mason (talk) 01:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
@CanonNi I wanted to bring this to your attention as well, as you have also been active at AfC/C recently. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 01:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I understand and will pay more attention to these types of category requests. Thank you for informing me. CanonNi (talk) 01:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you both! :) Mason (talk) 01:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Cole Brings Plenty

Article does not mention Cole Brings Plenty… AliceBzh (talk) 10:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

It does now and it did when I accepted the redirect request. Seems like it was removed from the page for a bit, but is back now. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

What was happening on Talk:2021-2022 inflation surge?

AnomieBOT was probably running into a misbug where it bypasses triple-and-more redirects but keeps re-processing the page. Normally this doesn't cause a problem since the re-processing is normally just null edits. But why were you edit warring with it to remove a colon from the target and remove the (useful, IMO) redirect categorization templates? Anomie 11:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

@Anomie that you for mentioning that, I was going to bring it up with you later. {{R avoided double redirect}} was out of date and throwing an error. I can't seem to reproduce that error right now, however, though it was somehow related to the earlier move. As such, I ran my user script, redirect-helper on the subject page to resolve that double redirect, assuming the talk page would have had the same issue. Seems like there must have been a caching issue on the page, and as such it kept throwing the error when AnomieBot updated the page. Seems like it is resolved now, thankfully. If not, I'll dig into the issue a bit more deeply.
And while you are here: {{R from modification}} should be switched out with the new {{R from alternative hyphenation}}. Thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I forgot to mention, my tool automatically removes the auto-g8 (not specifically, but all non-whitelisted templates, something I'll can change). As for the redirect templates, I'm generally not a fan of having any rcats on talk pages aside from {{R from move}} as I think all it does is clog up tracking categories that would then have the subject page and talk page. I think it's better to just have the subject page categorized, but that is again just my opinion. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I wonder whether {{R avoided double redirect}} was complaining about Talk:2021–2022 inflation surge still pointing to Talk:2021–2023 inflation until someone fixed that double redirect. Anomie 16:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
That would be it, yes! I got muddled around with that big chain of redirects. Thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
@Anomie just FYI, alongside the change to {{R from alternative hyphenation}}, the use of {{no redirect}} is no longer needed with recent changes to those templates! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1219106581

This reminded me of three things (relating to the script):

  1. Feature request: currently the script suggests rcats e.g. r to section/anchor and r wikidata. It would be nice if you could just click on the warning text to add them.
  2. Second feature request: supporting rcat redirects from Category:Template redirects with possibilities. If it helps I have some code for this for Missing Redirects Project, see the source code and search for fetchRcatsAndInit.
  3. I'm planning on nominating your tool for meta:Coolest Tool Award.

Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

1. A great idea, and something I've been meaning to implement for a while. I'll start on this soon!
2. Another good idea, and I'll have to think about how I want to implement it. I'll also start on this soon (and maybe simply fetch rcats from the category as well, instead of parsing from WP:ALLRCATS)!
3. I'm honored, thank you! I'm glad this tool has been so useful.
Again, thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 23:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
@Qwerfjkl done, and done! The one thing that isn't handled yet is avoided double redirects to templates with possibilities, but I'll get on that later. Forgot to mention, this is handled now! Let me know if you have any feedback! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 01:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Query regarding redirect-helper warning

Hi Eejit43 - and thanks for building redirect-helper :)

I just had a query regarding a warning it gave me -- I was trying to create a redirect from Ffransis (given name) to Ffransis with the rcat {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} (before I realised that Ffransis G. Payne would be a better target, as the rest of the people listed at Ffransis had it as a surname), and redirect-helper warned me that [t]his page is a redirect to a surname list, but it is not tagged with a correct disambiguation categorization template. I was slightly confused by this - it might be that I'm missing something, but I'm not sure what redirect template the script wanted me to use here!

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 09:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, now I'm wondering if redirect-helper wanted me to use {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} -- I suppose whether the disambiguation is unnecessary or incomplete depends on whether or not a name list is thought of as more of a stand-alone list or as a tool for disambiguation. ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
redirect-helper considers valid surname list templates to be {{R from ambiguous sort name}} and {{R from ambiguous term}}. I hadn't thought of {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} when creating that check.
However, I think using both "R from ambiguous term" and "R from unnecessary disambiguation" would make sense, as the latter doesn't imply that the target is a disambiguation page (or in this case, a surname list).
Does that sound right to you? Thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 11:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Bad move

You chose a bad move target for Tiden (newspaper, Arendal) because Tiden (newspaper) is also a Norwegian newspaper. Geschichte (talk) 04:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Whoops, thank you! I have no clue how I missed that. I'll fix that later, and likely make a disambiguation. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 11:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Done! Tiden (Arendal newspaper) is the new location, and the other newspaper has been moved to Tiden (Christiania newspaper). Tiden (newspaper) is now a redirect to the Tiden disambiguation page. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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afcrc-helper feauture request

Hi again - I was just wondering if it might be possible to add the feature to afcrc-helper to be able to accept/decline some requests in a section, and leave the others for another reviewer to respond to? The use case for this in my mind is in case a reviewer feels confident responding to some requests in a section, but perhaps isn't personally sure about accepting or declining the others - which another reviewer might feel more happy to do. (I just attempted to do this myself at WP:AFC/R, but afcrc-helper didn't like that I hadn't selected a response for all the requests made in a given section.)

(I promise I'm still planning on replying in the section I started above about redirect-helper, btw - I'm just very disorganised :P)

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 12:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello!
This is actually something I had considered for a while. However, the implementation of this would be quite difficult, especially considering the script would need to account for actions other scripts take too. Parsing those sections could just lead to too many issues I think. At some point this might be something I look more into, but for the lack of usage I'm not sure it is necessarily worth it.
Probably best just to leave requests open if you are unsure about part of it. Sorry!! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
No problem - that makes sense. Since leaving this message, the potential complexity of implementing this started coming to my mind as well - so I can’t say I blame you for leaving it :) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 14:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy notice of RM

Hi Eejit43 — I noticed that {{R from gender}} is listed in redirect-helper.json, so I just wanted to drop you a courtesy note that I’ve proposed that the template is moved to {{R from gendered term}}: Template talk:R from gender § Requested move 1 May 2024. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 09:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you!! I'll monitor the RM and update the script if the template is moved. :D ~ Eejit43 (talk) 12:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Elvis at The Scope

Here is the information on when Elvis played The scope.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28w9DeY5RjE Charliehd29 (talk) 17:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! However, YouTube is not a reliable source, see WP:RSPYT. If you do find a reliable source, feel free to add it to the article. However, I would instead say something like The venue has featured artists such as Elvis Presley.... ~ Eejit43 (talk) 18:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Possible bug with the RM/TR helper

Hi, just wanted to let you know, I tried to use the helper to handle a move in this revision of the helpdesk, but it threw an error, stating that the draft title for Luke Charlesworth is invalid. It might just be to do with my extensions, but I figured I'd let you know. ASUKITE 15:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Also, if you want to reproduce the bug, feel free to undo this revision where I removed the link. ASUKITE 15:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
I'll take a look at this later, thank you! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Presumably the issue is that the first title was a wikilink rather than just the text of the title (diff). SilverLocust 💬 22:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! I've implemented handling for that edge case now. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Another possible bug in RM/TR Helper

I noticed an issue today with RMTR Helper not loading. After a bit of trial and error, I finally narrowed it down to three move requests where the {{RMassist/core}} template didn't have spaces around all the pipe characters. I would suggest either replacing .split(" | ") with .split(/\s*\|\s*/) or adding some other error handling if finalParameters[2] doesn't exist. --Ahecht (TALK
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01:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ahecht done! Thank you for identifying that issue, that saved me some time :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@Eejit43 While I have your attention, it would also be nice to have the script automatically ping the requester when you leave a comment. I haven't tested it, but I believe that would look something like changing line 323 to `\n${request.full}${request.result.reason ? `\n:: ` + ((request.requester && request.requester.length > 0) ? (mw.util.isIPAddress(request.requester) ? '' : `@[[User:${request.requester}|${request.requester}]] `) : '') + `${request.result.reason} ~~~~` : ''}$1`,, along with a change to the "optional, automatically signed" text to indicate that the requester is automatically pinged. --Ahecht (TALK
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23:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
@Ahecht I've implemented that (with mostly the same code)! Thank you very much! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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Sorry

...but why did you call this vandalism? Drmies (talk) 00:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Due to the following additions:
  • ...thus foreshaddowing his [[male stripper|future job]]}
  • ...and attempting to [[rape]] her
  • ...and attempts to have [[sex]] with it. Jonesy gets his middle finger chopped off.
  • ...(don't worry, they get back together because she realizes that jerks can be sexy)
  • ...[[bank robbery|robbing a bank]], clubbing children to death
  • ...(he also eats it)
  • ...(Whoop de Do!)
and many more that are too many to list. Seems like that content might actually reflect what is in the episodes, but a lot were side comments that didn't appear to reflect the episode content and the vulgarity of the descriptions didn't seem to match others (making me assume the IP was making the edits in bad faith). Sorry if that was incorrect! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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