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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Huldra (talk • contribs) 21:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
-- Note especially that you should not be editing the IP area until you have 500 edits,Huldra (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
editPlease refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Roman Palestine. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Most notably, page moves without discussion, and largescale content deletion, including source deletion, without discussion, are simply unacceptable. Iskandar323 18:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Iskandar323: Roman Palestine wasn't even created until you created it at 17:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC), so what is this about? —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Warning
editI gave you the above "alert" on July 3rd. You still haven't gotten 500 edits; IMO you have broken the restiction on
Expect to find yourself at WP:AE, if you continue to break your restriction, cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, such aggressiveness!!! This article has no connection to any conflict. It is about Ottoman era history in the Levant. What is this all about? EliasAntonakos (talk) 08:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Of course it has something to do with the conflict: it is a standard beliefs in certain quarters that the whole Palestinian population stems from relatively recent immigrants (and therefore have no, or a very weak attachment to the land), cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Huldra: Of course, Wikipedia editors should endeavor to abide by the rules of Wikipedia. But I share EliasAntonakos's raised eyebrow here, because the article Muslim migrations to Ottoman Palestine
- Isn't obviously related to the Arab–Israeli conflict, especially to someone new to Wikipedia and new to editing articles construed to be related to said topic.
- Isn't pp-extended templated and doesn't display a warning to editors that it is covered by the 500 edits 30 days rule, in contrast, for example, to Lod, Tulkarm, Golda Meir, or Yasser Arafat.
- Even if EliasAntonakos's two edits to Muslim migrations to Ottoman Palestine violated 500/30, which is debatable, I think the edits were benign, and especially for that reason, I would encourage you to WP:Assume good faith and WP:Don't bite the newbies. I think you could have made your warning more gently, including a gentler heading, such as, perhaps, "More on contentious topics".
- EliasAntonakos: These comments should not be construed as an endorsement of any future editing on your part. It would be best to construe the the Arab–Israeli conflict broadly until further clarification, or you reach 500 edits, whichever comes first.
- Cheers, —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Huldra: Of course, Wikipedia editors should endeavor to abide by the rules of Wikipedia. But I share EliasAntonakos's raised eyebrow here, because the article Muslim migrations to Ottoman Palestine
- Of course it has something to do with the conflict: it is a standard beliefs in certain quarters that the whole Palestinian population stems from relatively recent immigrants (and therefore have no, or a very weak attachment to the land), cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Roman Palestine
editThe page is now fully protected in the version prior to the dispute. Take it to Talk:Roman Palestine. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 14:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
September 2024
editThank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you translated text from Trypi to another page. While you are welcome to translate Wikipedia content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the contributor(s) of the original article. When translating from a foreign-language Wikipedia article, this is supplied at a minimum in an edit summary on the page where you add translated content, identifying it as a translation and linking it to the source page. Sample wording for this is given here. If you forgot, or were not aware of this requirement, attribution must be given retroactively, for example:
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- I understand, thank you for your reply. I didn't know this. Iwill make sure to add the reference and follow the instructions in the future. EliasAntonakos (talk) 08:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, Wikipedia is free to copy and redistribute but it's important to credit the original authors of the work. Happy editing! Broc (talk) 13:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello there, hope you're well. I've noticed a few times that when you've added a citation, you've sometimes used Greek language sources instead. Per here: "Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia. However, because this project is in English, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when they are available and of equal quality and relevance". I know this might not always be possible but it would be preferable if you could add only English sources when possible. Kind regards Michaeldble (talk) 19:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, nice to hear from you. Yes, i understand what you mean, itook notice of your comment so it won't happen again and i will find English sources. Thanks for letting me know. Have a nice day. EliasAntonakos (talk) 06:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello there, hope you're well. I've noticed a few times that when you've added a citation, you've sometimes used Greek language sources instead. Per here: "Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia. However, because this project is in English, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when they are available and of equal quality and relevance". I know this might not always be possible but it would be preferable if you could add only English sources when possible. Kind regards Michaeldble (talk) 19:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, Wikipedia is free to copy and redistribute but it's important to credit the original authors of the work. Happy editing! Broc (talk) 13:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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1RR violation
editPlease self-revert your latest edit at November 2024 Amsterdam attacks to comply with 1RR. First revert: [1] changing from military conflict infobox to civilian attack [2] + removing a paragraph [3]. Second revert: changing from military conflict infobox to civilian attack again [4] (second is a revert of [5]). Makeandtoss (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Makeandtoss You honestly don't know what 1RR is, eh? Please stop biting the newbies. ABHammad (talk) 21:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please help understand, did i violate the 1RR rule or not? EliasAntonakos (talk) 09:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you did undo the actions of other editors twice within 24 hours, so that is indeed a 1RR violation. [6] Makeandtoss (talk) 10:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @EliasAntonakos I don't think you violated 1RR. Edit 1 is a totally standard edit, not a revert; Edit 2 is a merge, and Edit 3 is a removal of unsourced content, not a clear revert. Only Edit 4 appears to be an actual revert. If we were to follow Makeandtoss's definition of a revert, no one would be able to make more than one edit per day on a given article. Given that this is a rapidly evolving news event with frequent updates, with so many changes since yesterday, this entire discussion is totally pointless. ABHammad (talk) 14:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you did undo the actions of other editors twice within 24 hours, so that is indeed a 1RR violation. [6] Makeandtoss (talk) 10:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please help understand, did i violate the 1RR rule or not? EliasAntonakos (talk) 09:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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