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Hi there, thanks very much for your additions to footballer articles, they're nmore than welcome - it's also nice to see someone other than myself taking an interest in Bradford City! Just one little thing though - we don't tend to add so many section headings to short articles. If you need any help or anything, let me know. Thanks, GiantSnowman 11:10, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

No problems. There's no hard-or-fast rules about it, but as a rule of thumb, I'd say something like Wayne Rooney is a good example - each section is large enough to merit being a sub-section, but somebody like Nahki Wells only has a few lines about his Bradford City career... if you are interested in football articles, why not join Wikipedia:WikiProject Football? You'd be more than welcome, we're always looking for new members to help contribute to articles! GiantSnowman 14:22, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I've changed the Carroll article to my preference - but it is just that, personal preference. Good news on joining the Project, if you need any help on anything else you know where to find me, I'll be more than happy to assist! Cheers, GiantSnowman 14:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Our manual of style, which we use as a basic guide, has just has one section for the entire career, though of course with larger articles it makes sense to split them up into different clubs, or even season - it just depends on the amount of time available. Regarding Kozluk, feel free to edit his article as soon as the club officialy confirms it. I know that the manager has said he will sign but until it actually happens, we should not change it, per WP:CRYSTAL. Cheers, GiantSnowman 14:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Kozluk now confirmed if you want to edit away! GiantSnowman 15:19, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I've added the row in the table, as well as the squad template and the Bradford City player category. My changes can be seen here. GiantSnowman 15:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

If you want to do it then be bold and just go for it - I don't have much input on season's pages to be honest, I normally concentrate on player articles, and if you want to add meaningful content then be my guest! GiantSnowman 15:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Like I said mainly player article, also a few clubs, as well as a few non-football stuff. For that edit summary, if you're changing the wording so it makes more sense just out something like "fixed grammar" or "changed wording" or something similar. GiantSnowman 15:55, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not brilliant with images to be honest, but more information can be found at Wikipedia:Image use policy. GiantSnowman 16:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it your own work? That's fine. Has the copyright holder released the image under an acceptable free license? That's fine. Is it public domain i.e. free of any copyright? That's fine. If it's not any of those but you believe it'd be fair to use it then it'd be allowed, but you have to justify that, and that's mainly for CD covers and the like. GiantSnowman 16:42, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Image use policy#Copyright and licensing explains more. Sorry I can't be more help - maybe try the Wikipedia:Help desk? GiantSnowman 16:53, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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I'll put my name on the list, now sure how active I'll be though! Cheers, GiantSnowman 10:47, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Career stats tables

Hello, and thanks for trying to keep Wikipedia up to date. When you update stats tables, please make sure you update all the figures that need changing - cup appearances, row and column totals, disciplinary stats if present - which you didn't at Craig Gardner. Bit of advice would be take a little bit longer and check the source of the stats when you do the updating, to make sure you're getting it right. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

And, if the note at the top takes the form As of match played 10 March 2012, please would you leave it in that format, because it means the reader can be sure the stats do include that day's match. Just using As of 10 March 2012 means that if the player had a match that day, the reader can't tell whether the stats were updated before or after that match. Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 08:17, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, when adding/editing these sections, only the first word of the title should be in caps as per WP:CAPS and WP:MOS. Thanks, --Jimbo^[online] 00:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Infobox datestamp

Hello, and many thanks for your efforts in keeping footballer stats up to date. When you update the datestamp, please use one after the last match included in the stats. The easy way is to wait until after the match has finished, and then replace whatever's after club-update= with five tilde characters ~~~~~, which the system will replace with the current date and time. In this edit to Craig Gardner, you added a datestamp a couple of hours before the last match included in his stats kicked off... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Again, please wait until after the game. But whatever you do, please don't falsify the infobox datestamp by updating during the game but adding a timestamp after the scheduled final whistle, as you just did at Scott Dann. Thank you. Struway2 (talk) 16:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Think we're both confused. Blackburn are playing in the Cup, not the league, so I was totally wrong to make the comment about falisfying the infobox date, and I apologise unreservedly. However, had you not added today's appearance and goal into the infobox and the league column in the career stats, as if you thought it was a league game, I might not have been confused, and someone wouldn't have to fix your mistake...

Please consider waiting until after a game before updating. It saves a lot of inaccuracy. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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I've noticed you have one way of adding references to articles, I was wondering if you could use the full format from the reference template because I have changed a lot of the refs you have added to articles and it is a lot of maintance. E.g

<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21235461 |title=Lewis Holtby: Tottenham sign Schalke midfielder |publisher=BBC Sport |work=bbc.co.uk |date=28 January 2013 |accessdate=17 March 2013 }}</ref>

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Hello. When you update a career stats table with As of match played... above it, please would you change the date to that of the last match played, and not to a random date when neither the player nor his club played a match, as you did with this edit to Nathan Redmond. Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 10:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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International goals

Yes, per WP:V and WP:BLP. GiantSnowman 18:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Because there are thousands and thousands and thousands of articles! See also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. GiantSnowman 18:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

What Goof Articles have you seen this unreferenced material? Was it added after it was awarded the GA? GiantSnowman 18:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Really? I see references at Miralem Pjanić#International goals and many others... GiantSnowman 18:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

...but they should be. GiantSnowman 19:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The WP:BURDEN is on those adding the material to source it. I try and find sources where I can, but if I cannot, or there is too much, I deem it safer to remove. GiantSnowman 20:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Not really, it was a recent example of this material being challenged and removed before being re-added with references. GiantSnowman 18:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Haha, of course this is just a discussion and not an argument! Should it be referenced? Yes, per WP:V and WP:BLP. Should you remove on sight? That's a bit trickier, and depends on your interpretation of BLP policy. Some, like me, do. Others prefer to add {{cn}} tags. GiantSnowman 19:31, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for your thanks but the edit was reverted by one of the editors and he is not replying me on my talk page now but I looked at the under 18 football team page and made the change for all the players who had one cap increased. Cheers!!! Sammanhumagain^t@lk 18:03, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Squad numbers

Unfortunately we cannot simply assume that he has that specific squad number based on a training video. GiantSnowman 14:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

...because players do not 'lose' numbers over the summer break. Sure they might change, but with no indication that they have we should not make that assumption. GiantSnowman 16:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

No, there is no evidence the squad numbers have been 'stripped'; that's not how it works. GiantSnowman 17:00, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

What you are suggesting is not based on any policy, guideline or consensus, and is the complete opposite of what we have done every other year. GiantSnowman 17:15, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

...or we wait until squad numbers are officially announced, like we have done every other year? GiantSnowman 17:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Because older players have established squad numbers (from last season), new players don't (yet!). GiantSnowman 19:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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