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Account Creation Improvement Project

Latest comment: 13 years ago34 comments2 people in discussion

Hello,

I have run across your user name several times now during my work with the Account Creation Improvement Project. I don't know how much you have followed the development of that project, so I'll direct you to this edit for some background. My question is, do you have time to make some of the designs better-looking? With your talents in writing MediaWiki pages with special looks, it seems that you would a very good person to help out. The primary thing now is making this page look better. Anything you can do to help is appreciated.

Best wishes, Hannibal (talk) 15:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll be glad to help, tell me what you're looking for—image mockups, on-wiki mockups, etc., and what should be in the software and what should be actually wikicoded. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh, great!
We have some mockups that I did. I am not a designer, by a long shot, so it looks really bad, but I hope that you can understand what we are trying to accomplish. As we cannot change the software (it takes too much tech support), we will have to work with html and css and possibly javascript to create the effect we are after. I am working with a guy who have started on a javascript form that we can use instead of the edit box solution I have on the page I linked to above. So what would be fantastic, would be if you could make the design, in MediaWiki, for the page. You don't have to bother with Step 1, but concentrate on making the other steps, including Step 4 (the resulting user page) as good looking as possible.
If at all possible, could we talk about this, perhaps on Skype, soon?
Best wishes, Hannibal (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I may be able to chat on IRC later this week (Friday or Saturday); Skype doesn't work well because neither my computer's microphone nor webcam seem to work consistently. I'll see what I can come up with for the pages. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Wonderful. How about a meeting on Friday, depending on our mutual timezones. I am in UTC+2 (Gothenburg), and can work during the day, up until 8 in the evening. After that I have a visitor. Or on Saturday, we can find a time.//Hannibal (talk) 18:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, I suck at time zone conversions, but I'm in UTC-5, and I won't be available until ~00:00 UTC on Friday (not sure about times on Saturday yet). However, I may be able to do 16:00 UTC-ish (give or take a few minutes) Friday—does that work for you? I might have lunch plans then, but it's unlikely, and I'll have about one–two hours at that time. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Sure, 16 UTC on Friday sounds like a plan, but I have a guest at 17, so we'll keep it pretty short. It will be good to "talk" to you though. Do you have a preference where we chat?//Hannibal (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't really care either way. I don't know if you want public (#wikimedia-outreach?) or private (I have ##fetchcomms, or if you have a channel, we can use that). Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh, this is not secret, so #wikimedia-outreach works fine. I'll try to join in a few minutes early. See you tomorrow.//Hannibal (talk) 22:37, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your designs

Thanks again for the designs on this project. They were beautiful. Just so you don't miss this, I started working on a variant of the page you did here. Feel free to tweak and change it and comment on it as much as you want. Best wishes, Hannibal (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2011 (UTC) (ps. sorry for not being able to talk this Sunday. This computer crash is really slowing me down to about 1/3 of my usual speed :-(...)

Don't worry about it, my computer regularly acts stupid, too :) /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Accolade

Sorry for not writing sooner, but I wanted to tell you that everyone that has seen your designs have commented very favorable on them. "Looks really good", "amazing", "gorgeous" and "great" are just four descriptions. As you can see here, here and here (and don't forget the links from the last page), I have used almost everything you created. So thank you!

I do have one question: could you create the progress bar for the third step (the user page) as well? I have tried to adapt the second one, but I just can't seem to get the hang of it :-s

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes//Hannibal (talk) 16:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! For the progress bar on the third step, I don't think it looks the best if saved directly on the user page, so what you could do is, in outreach:MediaWiki:Common.js, add &editintro=User%3AFetchcomms%2Fdraft%2Fei after the &action=submit. That way, the progress bar will show up as an editnotice so the user can see it, but it won't be saved onto the user page. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
That was quick. Great. I'll try that.//Hannibal (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
After taking a more thorough look at this page where the tab bar is still highlighted on "About me" when you're on "Getting started". How do change that?//Hannibal (talk) 12:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, so you'll need to add some conditional statements in the code so it detects which subpage it's on and changes color accordingly. If you aren't sure what I mean I can do it later today in a few hours (have to run now). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:57, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Either that, or you do the easy way, with several versions with different colours :-) I tried this method and couldn't get the colours to work.
By the way, do you think we should keep the links in the progress bar? During the "production" stage it was a nice feature, but do we want the new users to click on those?//Hannibal (talk) 13:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Ideally, there would be some way for them to return back one step if they messed up, so I don't know exactly how it will be set up in the end (javascript?), but the link to the next step(s) don't really need to be there. I'll take a look soon, cheers. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 14:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Some more CSS work

Hello,

After trying out the design on MediaWiki.org (something I probably should have done on the test wiki), I discovered that there is a problem with moving your design to English Wikipedia (namely here). What happens is that the box at the top pushes the form downward, while the box itself is empty. I tried taking out the end |} to see if I could get the box to continue, but it didn't work. So I asked Sertion. He said that either we would have to edit the Mediawiki code (which is not an option at this point), or we could give the existing frame around "Create account" rounded corners and a small shadow, and then put the text ("What would you like to be called on Wikipedia? Choose a user name and a password.") at the top of that, and move the form a little further down with CSS. He thought that you could do it. Is that possible?

Here is the Mediawiki code for the entire page. The page that guides where the box starts is named somewhere in that code. Can you help me find it and start working on CSS that would solve this problem?

Thanks in advance//Hannibal (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm, OK, I think I understand what's happening. Personally, I think that revamping the entire account creation process would be better (simply because I don't like the how MediaWiki's default account creation system is set up), but as we can't do that right now, I'll see how to get around it. Give me a little bit to play around (on my own local "testwiki") and I'll see what looks best. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! You're a great friend!//Hannibal (talk) 18:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, here is what I have right now. It only works for Vector (haven't messed with the monobook tweaks) but that should be OK because the default skin is Vector (except I have to see if it affects users helping at WP:ACC still).
Open for code

Mediawiki:Common.css should include this code: 

#userlogin {
 margin:0; width:90% !important; max-width:100% !important; padding:1.5em;  padding-top:0.75em !important; border:0; -moz-box-shadow: inset 0 0px 10px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); -webkit-box-shadow:  inset 0 0px 10px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); box-shadow: inset 0 0px 10px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); -moz-border-radius: 7px; -webkit-border-radius: 7px; border-radius: 7px; background:white; background: #fff; background: -moz-linear-gradient(bottom, #fff 90%, #F5F5F5 100%); background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left bottom, left top, color-stop(90%,#fff), color-stop(100%,#F5F5F5)); background: -webkit-linear-gradient(bottom, #fff 90%,#F5F5F5 100%); background: -o-linear-gradient(bottom, #fff 90%,#F5F5F5 100%); background: -ms-linear-gradient(bottom, #fff 90%,#F5F5F5 100%); background: linear-gradient(bottom, #fff 90%,#fff 100%);
 }

MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount should include: 

<hr />
<div style="background:#A7D7F9; margin-top:10px; margin-left:10px; padding:0px 10px; width:250px; float:right;">
'''You can also become a part of Wikipedia!'''

[[File:{{#switch:{{#expr:{{NUMBEROFEDITS:R}} mod 2}}|1=Abbasjnr Wikimedia Video.tiff|0=Lila Wikimedia video.png}}|250px]]

<span style="font-size:90%; line-height:1.3em;">Wikipedia is created by people like you and me. By adding what you know, you are helping countless others find "[[:en:Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia|the sum of all human knowledge]]". Thank you!<br /></span>
</div>
<div style="background:transparent; font-family:Calibri, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size:12px;">
<span style="font-size:34px; color:#000; line-height:1em;">'''What would you like to be called on Wikipedia?'''</span>

<span style="font-size:18px; color:#555;">Choose a user name and a password.</span>

<hr />
<div style="font-size:14px;">
'''Registering a free account takes only a few seconds and has [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|many benefits]].''' Simply choose a [[Wikipedia:Username policy|username]] and password and (optionally) enter your email address, then click "create account". 

To help protect against automated account creation, please enter the words that appear below in the box, without any spaces. ([[Special:Captcha/help|more info]])

Unable to see the image? Please request that an account [[Wikipedia:Request an account|be created for you]].
</div>
</div>

and MediaWiki:Signupend should have the progress bar: 

{{User:Fetchcomms/draft/bc|1}}
I'm not a mediawiki-wiki admin or a testwiki admin so I can't try this, but it seemed to work fine on my personal wiki. Can you try this and get a screenshot for me on Vector, and then I'll see if we need to adapt it to monobook/other skins, too? Thanks! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
And here's the result. I didn't bother to enter the progress bar code to the test wiki (and it's at the bottom), and there is a loose "signupstart" at the top of the page that I don't know if it's from your code or something they have on the test wiki. Otherwise it seems to work very well! Good work.
Since everyone that has not changed their settings have Vector, and you cannot change your settings unless you have an account, you will already have an account if you have any other skin than Vector. But I guess that it could happen that someone wants another account for some reason. But don't concentrate on that until we this working, please. And again, thanks and well done!//Hannibal (talk) 21:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, the signupstart thing is from testwiki:MediaWiki:Signupstart. I don't know if that works on en-wiki (it doesn't on my personal wiki, but I'm running an older version of MediaWiki. so maybe that's why). In the case that we can use MediaWiki:Signupstart here, I would put the progress bar at the top, then. Also, I would add a sentence or two at the bottom then saying, "Don't use company names, don't use your real name if you don't want everyone seeing it", etc. But the screenshot looks good to me, so I think it works. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

New problem

Here is the strange result from the first version. Can you help me finding the solution? This should look like this (with the form below). Thanks in advance//Hannibal (talk) 11:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, if there was the global sitenotice up, I think that means he wasn't logged out then—so there would be no captcha, and therefore no captcha stuff using the fancycaptcha mediawiki pages. I changed MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP1:Fancycaptcha-createaccount a little, can you or Philippe try again without being logged in initially? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, don't I have egg on my face... But, there's another thing: do you know how to "hide" the full, long adress to for instance: MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP2:Welcomecreation? See MediaWiki:common.css for our first try.//Hannibal (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
My (wild) guess is that interface pages can't have their titles hidden, but I'll play around a bit. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. It seems that they had a similar problem during the fundraiser. It was they who suggested the latest change I made on the common.css page, but apparently it didn't take.//Hannibal (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm about 99% sure that MediaWiki blocks the "body.page- ..." thing for interface pages (and some other namespaces, too—it didn't seem to work for the user: namespace, either). I may have a workaround, I'm testing it now. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Common.css

At MediaWiki talk:Common.css, there's two questions for you.//Hannibal (talk) 20:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Unhiding text

Hello,

After all you've done, I hesitate to ask, but you've proved so kind that I feel that I can at least ask.

In the ACP2 test, I have managed to hide too much of the title of the page. If you for instance look at MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP2-welcomecreation it doesn't say that you should pick the subject you are most interested in, since the code says display:none. Now, my question is if there is an easy way to write anything you want using that code, or if there is another way of solving that problem.

Best wishes//Hannibal (talk) 13:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

You can ask me anything, anytime :). Unfortunately, DISPLAYTITLE cannot change the title to anything other than the actual title (MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP2-welcomecreation)—you can only change how "MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP2-welcomecreation" appears, like hiding certain letters or changing the color, size, etc. There is a way to do this using javascript, which is enabled on the French Wikipedia; I pasted the code here. But you'll want to ask one of the more techy people whether it would be OK to use that code here, because I don't know how much server load it would cause (although, the frwp is pretty big, so it can't be that bad). Also, I'm not sure if there's a way to only allow such code to work on certain pages, so you could ask at MediaWiki talk:Common.js or WP:VPT. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you very much. I'll ask over at Common.js first and take it from there.//Hannibal (talk) 20:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

RfC

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thanks for starting the RfC, I just wanted to point out that the opening summary will continue until the first signature (take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines). Since you created the RfC, it would only be right that you sign it. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 13:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I've signed it now. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

RfC

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, I think I agree with all of the proposals. How involved would the developers' tasks be? Tony (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the technical aspects of this would involve yet, although I am trying to ask a few devs to participate in the discussion. But I think writing up the code shouldn't be too hard (given that these are all features that other major websites have in place), once consensus is formed. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
K, to me, the devil is in the detail, and if you know the developers' side of the story, that will be a great advantage in shepherding the community along the right route. Tony (talk) 17:39, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

self-block-request

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

To help me think about some certain things, I want to to block me for 24 hours, account creation blocked and autoblock disabled. Also do the same to my public account. Use the block summary: user requested (with a link to this discussion. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 00:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Why not just use the WikiBreak Enforcer script? Logan Talk Contributions 00:30, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
It's not working. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 00:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Consensus on dashes

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi, this is to let everyone who has expressed an interest in the topic that the discussion to arrive at a consensus has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/dash drafting, with discussion taking place at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/dash_drafting/discussion. Apologies if you have already commented there, or have seen the discussion and chosen not to comment. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

My RfA

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾Talk 01:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion request

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello Fetchcomms, could you please delete User:Alpha Quadrant/huggle.css, beginning in September I decided to use my alternate account for anti-vandalism and bulk AWB work, as it makes it easier for me to go over my semi-automated edits. Therefore I have no reason to have huggle enabled on my main account. I would have CSDed it, but because it is a .css page Template:Db-u1 won't work there. Thanks, Alpha Quadrant talk 22:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted, but {{db-g7}} or {{db-u1}} still do work there. Although the template does not show, the category still appears. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 22:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Portal United States

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Greetings, I am just following up with some of the participating parties on the status of the request for getting Portal United States to Featured status. Do you have any ideas about whats left to be completed? --Kumioko (talk) 18:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hello, Fetchcomms. You have new messages at Rcsprinter123's talk page.
Message added 08:27, 9 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

WormTT · (talk) 08:27, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Luka Šulić

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi, just wanted to inform you that I have added Slovenian with Croatian on Luka Šulić page, since he obviusly holds Slovenian passport according to this link http://www.delo.si/clanek/138560

Best regards--Eversman (talk) 13:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC).

DYK for Frédéric Alfred d'Erlanger

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Last PPI assessment!

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

hi Fetchcomms,

We finally made it, this is the last assessment request for the Public Policy Initiative! I was really impressed with the content the students developed this term, I hope you enjoyed it too. The last set of articles is at Student Post 2.2. I will keep you updated on results and publications. Thanks ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 05:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank You! Fetchcomms, your assessments made a big contribution toward quality evaluation. I will keep you posted on the research and results that come out in the coming months. All the best, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) has given you a cupcake! Cupcakes promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cupcake, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. †

June 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The June 2011 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

 
--Kumioko (talk) 18:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Plutonium

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Perhaps you're not familiar with the user, but they have a history of grossly uncivil and inappropriate comments at RfA and in general. I suppose making wise-ass remarks at those kind of people is one of my many faults, but I didn't want you to take my comment out of context. Best regards, Swarm X 03:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

No, I realize what you're saying, RfA just isn't the right place to make those sorts of comments. The talk page, or AN/I might be better if you want to start a topic ban discussion. Actually, I'm not really sure where's the best place. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
You're right. I suppose I should bite the bullet and redact that comment. Swarm X 20:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for a consultation in your area of expertise

Latest comment: 13 years ago9 comments2 people in discussion

Hey, Fetchcomms. You were highly recommended as an editor who designs great Wikipedia pages. I'm curious if you'd be interested in taking a look at the coding/design/development of an interactive help tutorial we're working on, The Wikipedia Adventure. It's going to be a web-based interactive tutorial/game that new editors can take/play in a realistic Wikipedia environment. Bascially, we've gotten together great people, developed a concept, written the script, and started working on images for the interface. Any input on either the coding or design side would be great. Or if you just want to leave a comment about the guide/game approach. Please let me know if have any thoughts on it. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 05:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Sounds cool! One question, first: is this going to be hosted directly on the English Wikipedia, or a separate site? Also, if hosted separately, will it be running MediaWiki? Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
We have a few options here, and it partly depends on who is willing and able to make the game. The simplest option is to use images of Wikipedia and Flash. The more involved option, which is a bit more promising, is to use an actual mediawiki interface (though perhaps with limited navigation options). I've been thrown ideas including mediawiki extensions and using the mediawiki API, but this is an area where I need more feedback about implementation. Either way, the actual game would be web-based but likely not hosted directly on English Wikipedia. At least, the first generation game doesn't have the go-ahead for that, and it would probably be more complicated, as the game has some interactive elements, mock-articles, and simulated editor interaction. If we go the mediawiki, off-Wikipedia route, it would likely be javascript/ajax/html5 for the interactive components. (I'm not a coder, so that's the best overview I can give at this point).
Two interesting pages to get your creative juices flowing are the Script and the project page mock-up. We'll have some more shortly including screenshots of the interactive components. User:Sonia is working on the avatar graphics, but the rest of the game is wide-open. Let me know if you have anything in mind, or something you'd like to tinker with. Ocaasi t | c 21:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
OK, I don't know any flash, nor do I like flash, so I don't know how much help I'll be if that's the route that is ultimately picked. But you're right, it would be the most straightforward and likely best way to create a game-type thing. Using a real MediaWiki install would be the easiest to set up, I'm guessing, though probably difficult to manage (e.g., dealing with spam accounts and vandals). I can do MediaWiki coding, but not to the point of writing extensions, although I doubt creating a whole new extension is really necessary. It's something I'll look into and see how feasible it is to set up. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
I tried a few things, and if you want to go the MediaWiki route, I'm really not sure how it would work because the script covers so many different things. I'm not saying it's impossible, but some of the scripts needed would be beyond me. (I'm assuming you would want a low-maintenance game, where it's difficult for people to mess around and stuff so you don't have to keep track of every single player. Otherwise, it would be very easy, but also very annoying to maintain.) Flash would be the way to go, although the level of detail would likely make it a rather complicated deal. Then again, I have very little experience in flash (AKA: I've played flash games but I've never actually written one), so I'm just guessing at how one would write it there. tl;dr, I can help if you want to try MediaWiki, but you probably want a few other users, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The 'game' would not be an open environment where multiple accounts interact, it's all solo and all of the interaction is simulated. The editing is real but also quite simple and could be mocked up. I'm not even sure that it needs the MW parser, really, all it needs is simple translation from ~~~~ to the username and such. The rest of the edits need to be checked for accuracy but I think it's more likely they would just trigger a pre-loaded version.
If you want to give a try at the first level and see how it comes together, that would be awesome. We have some code reviewers, at least, on the Mediawiki side, if you wanted to give it a shot. Tom Morris and Dcoetzee are up for reviewing code, so your work would have some eyes in case you get stuck. I really don't know what the exact specs would be but Tom said he'd put together a code-map which might be helpful. I'll let you know when he's done that.
I think as for mediawiki integration, it would be a program which loads mediawiki but all of the interaction would be through javascript. That's my hunch as to how and keep it streamlined and limited. How would you feel about playing around with the first level, just as a demo? Are there specific steps that are tricky? Anything can be hacked for the mock-up, even if it's not the 'best' way to do it long term. The goal right now is proof of concept, really. Thanks again for looking into all of this. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 23:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
If everything is simulated, then it would be easier (more flexible, at least) to start with plain html rather than a CMS or other platform like MediaWiki, in my opinion. I'm not the best at javascript, unfortunately (most of what I know is from trial-and-error), so I don't know how to have all the interaction through js (do you mean that a player can't actually put anything they want in their edits? Could urls be manipulated to go to the edit screen and such? etc.). As for trying the first level, do you have a preferred place for me to put files? Should I just email you everything, or do you have a site set up already? (Or, could you use the toolserver to host the game?) /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
My idea was that there would be a 'right' edit which would be required to trigger the next step (else a 'try again' message). You'll see from the script that the editing options are actually quite limited even though they cover key skills. I don't have a toolserver account, but that's something I'll look into. I set up a github here https://github.com/Ocaasi/The-Wikipedia-Game. You can definitely add your code there, or really wherever is convenient for you. Are you okay with releasing any code to the project (I assume so, but I ask just to be sure). Really, however you want to try coding the first level as a mock-up is totally cool and i'm excited to see what you come up with. Anyway, if it helps sell the project to a more adept coding team it will be a great asset.
Yep, I was thinking the same kind of mechanism. I'm fine with publishing the any code I write under whatever license is most suitable for the game's development, and I'll get started on it. It may take a little while, though, as I'm currently very busy in real life (I wish summer meant more time for me, but whatever), so if I don't post anything within a couple of weeks, poke me. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Great, and great. Real life, psh. This is an Adventure! I look forward to seeing it, whenever. Let me know if you need any other specs/docs/explanations. Cheers ! Ocaasi t | c 20:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi Fetch. I just wanted to drop by and thank you for the kind words and support in my RfA. We often show up on opposite sides of Village Pump discussions, but I've been impressed with your work here (I found your essay in particular to be spot-on) and your words of support for me were very much appreciated. Best, 28bytes (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

True life

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Here I am sitting in a courtyard in Arlington County, Virginia, taking advantage of public Wi-Fi. I keep an eye on the recent changes feed for the WM2012 wiki, and when I read your edit summary for the main page, I was intrigued. I then clicked and took a look at the newly redesigned main page. Then—I kid you not— I exclaimed "ohohoh!" like a complete dumbass because I was floored by the redesign. You did a supremely great job! harej 18:56, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) I don't live anywhere near the DC area but I wanted to help however I could. Now I just have to hope that my schedule allows me to attend next year, when it's in the U.S. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:15, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 2Cellos

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

hello

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.. I see you deleted <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_One">Studio One (TV Series)</a> Page here on Wikipedia .. It's an existing daily show, used to be called "Ask One" but now it's called "Studio One" and just started airing this year and still currently on air & it's one of the many talk shows aired on Dubai One channel .. I watch it everyday & now when I wanna read about it here I see you've deleted the page.. I really don't know why you did that 'coz you can't possibly KNOW every TV show on earth.. so please bring it back!

Momentofdream (talk) 09:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, the reason the page was deleted was because someone raised this concern: "No evidence that this is a notable show. Fails WP:N and WP:RS". It is irrelevant what sort of show this series is, and it's irrelevant whether I've ever heard of it or not. What is relevant is Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, which the Studio One page did not appear to meet. A brief summary of these criteria may be found here. I urge you to review the criteria, and if you think that Studio One satisfies them, submit a new page about the series. Thanks, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

TCO

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I've unblocked at the request of an IP saying it was him and the writing looked similar. Under the circumstances, I did not think it necessary to request your permission, if I have erred, I have appointed TCO my agent for purposes of receiving delivery of trout. Best,--Wehwalt (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

No probs, I should have asked for confirmation or something before I went ahead and granted his request, anyway, but it was midnight :P. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
You did right. I will try not to waste y'all's time though.TCO (talk) 19:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

"thought he wasn't an admin, already"

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You are a very smart and funny fellow. I hope this doesn't piss you off (is true). But...ya know how people say at RFA, "thought he already was one"? Well...with you it is the opposite. I thought you WEREN'T one. You sort of act like a civilian. I don't get any status vibe from you. Interesting. Hmm...really I thought you were one of the hoi polloi. Not sure wether this is an insult...or a really good thing.TCO (talk) 19:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not an insult. I guess it could be a good thing. Maybe it's a sign that I haven't really mopped up any messes recently. Hmmmm ... /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Your question at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Guoguo12 2

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Could you please clarify your question? Do you mean disadvantages of being a child admin or of having child admins in the first place? Guoguo12 (Talk)  00:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Disadvantages of having child admins. Although, I guess that disadvantages child admins face would in some cases be closely related. But you can choose you want to approach it, so there's certainly some flexibility in the interpretation there. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:36, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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OK, I redacted that link. (Maybe I'm reacting too hastily, but I still feel it was highly inappropriate.) Would you mind removing the revisions containing the link? Thanks! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I see it's been revdeled by Fetchcomms, which was a good call. 28bytes (talk) 17:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Removed, and I've amended my comment accordingly. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, 28bytes, I just saw your earlier comment here and I admit that I had not read the link very carefully before posting it here, there was some similarity to the username, so I didn't realize what some of it was referring to at first. Trouts welcome. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
And before anyone else says anything, I've already sent an email to him. Consider this matter closed lest any more inappropriate information slip out. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:17, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Moved from your userpage

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Good afternoon, regarding the image deleted-File:3496001266 86734f6a70.jpg, on the page User:Iscript/Fluid Equipment Development Company the phrase attached was written by myself. I obtained the picture from Flickr [1] and it stated it can be used if you give the author credit and I know I did because I spent some time trying to figure out which licensing would go with it, I used "cc-by-sa-3.0".

Also since I have not posted the page in progress on the Wiki site and I am still constructing it, working out the bugs, etc. why would items be subject to deletion? Also I changed my username from troberty to iscript to be a bit more private and have not quite figured out how to merge everything. Just thought I'd let you know in case you see the two. I hope this was the correct place to write this. Troberty (talk) 20:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I moved this from your userpage. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Iscript, the Flickr page says the image is published under the copyright license Creative Commons Attribution-NoncCommercial 2.0. Wikipedia does not allow images published under this license, because we do not believe that "NonCommercial" is compatible with our goal of "free knowledge and information"; it is too restrictive. So CC-BY-SA 3.0 is not the correct license. For more information on this matter, please see the copyright FAQ.
Because the image does not meet our image inclusion policy, it had to be deleted immediately, regardless of the status of your entry-in-progress. This is because we want to minimize the amount of non-free material publicly available on our servers. If you are able to convince the Flickr user to change the copyright license of the picture to either CC-BY-SA or CC-BY (not CC-BY-NC or CC-BY-ND), then do feel free to re-upload the image under the correct license.
Also, you changed your username to Iscript, but are still using the Troberty account. If you want to maintain some level of privacy, you'll have to log in with "Iscript", not "Troberty". If this isn't working, please explain the situation at this page and hopefully someone will be able to figure it out; username changes do not always work as expected.
If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to get back to me. Regards, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank.....this all is understood. Troberty (talk) 17:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello again. I could use your help. I was humming along and created a disambiguation page for FEDCO and moved Fedco to Federal Employees' Distributing Company. After I learned I did it the wrong way (copy and paste) and created something I cannot fix - 2 pages with the same content. My intention was to remove Fedco since I transferred all information to Federal Employees' Distributing Company but realize the history will be lost, I should have used the move feature. Can you look into this please? iscript 21:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it. Not sure why this message is blue, also. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Table fixing

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Thanks - thought I'd got everything right (after lots of previews), but forgot that point! BencherliteTalk 15:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

No worries, I was just wondering where my comment went at first! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 15:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
It was assimiliated into my words of wisdom, clearly... BencherliteTalk 15:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

US National Archives collaboration

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 United States National Archives WikiProject
Would you like to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to the National Archives and its incredible collection? This summer, the National Archives—which houses some of America's most important historical documents—is hosting me as its Wikipedian in Residence, and I have created WP:NARA to launch these efforts.

There are all sorts of tasks available for any type of editor, whether you're a writer, organizer, gnome, coder, or image guru. The National Archives is making its resources available to Wikipedia, so help us forge this important relationship! Please sign up and introduce yourself. Dominic·t 15:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, I just read about the collaboration in The Atlantic this morning. I don't have time currently (or in the near future, for that matter) to commit to a WikiProject, but I am interested in the "Today's Document" challenge. Do you happen to have more information on where the future/planned documents can be found? I wasn't sure if the "index forthcoming" meant that the list is not yet public or if it just hasn't yet been put on Wikipedia. On a side note, I'm really glad that we were able to obtain all those Ansel Adams photos; do you know if any of them were in color? Those seem to be quite rare. Anyway, cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for reminding me. I had posted a quick and dirty index a little while ago. I have updated the language with a link to the page. You can actually get to all of the pages by just clicking the "Tomorrow's document" over and over again, as they are all posted for the whole year already, so I just had to compile them all in one place to make it less of a chore to peruse them. That project can really be run almost entirely independently of NARA and me. We just need to be notified of any successes so we can update our pages to refer to them. I would love for someone(s) to take charge of the page, declare themselves coordinator, clerk, or whatever they like, and really get it up and running. So far I haven't really even been able to devote a lot of time to publicizing it.

The Ansel Adams photos from this set were all in black and white. You can see them at commons:Category:2011 Ansel Adams donation from U.S. National Archives (the TIFF master files aren't up yet, but those are the high-resolution JPEG versions). If they interest you, it would be great to see someone give them some love. Something as simple as finding any old low-quality versions already on Wikipedia from before this donation and replacing them in articles would be useful, as well as categorizing and adding them to articles. Dominic·t 20:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I had missed the "Yesterday's" / "Tomorrow's" links on the NARA page before, but I just noticed them. I look over a few upcoming ones and this (Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom) piqued my interest. Is the image here the high-res version that should be added to the article, or is there a higher-res version that should be requested instead? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
In general, almost none of the images available on the web are in the highest resolution (scan-quality) and definitely none of them are available as the TIFF master scan files which I have been trying to get on Commons as well. So, that's where I come in. ;-) Request away. (And that's a really cool pick. I was looking at it myself recently.) Dominic·t 13:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
OK, I left a request here. Now it's time to write! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:08, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

New friend?

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Hi, it seems you have a new friend. --Bsadowski1 04:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hm. Pity he had to add the "if you know what I mean" bit, as I'm not that much of a geek. And pity he hasn't yet hacked my account. I need an excuse to have a vacation. :) /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Outreach

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Hi Fetch. I have been following your excellent work at ACIP but my global account won't log me in at at outreach.wikimedia.org. have you any idea why this may be? Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:01, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Well that's odd. Maybe you could manually create an account there, and then see if going to Special:MergeAccount will merge it together? I'm really not sure, WP:VPT is probably watched by someone who knows the exact cause of the issue. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:11, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Solved it myself. Seems that if one has never logged into a Wikimedia sub domain before, the password needs to be entered the first time to get the 30-day cookie. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Syphilis

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Have added a couple more paragraphs to the Epidemiology of syphilis Cheers --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

You're famous!

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You're famous :P Pilif12p 06:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

YAY 4 KITTEHZ!!! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Essay format

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Again on 'modern' page formats: Is there, as far as you know, any rule that prevents essays in Wikipedia project space from being HTML formatted as for example user essays here? I'm thinking in terms of making WP:Advice for younger editors more appealing, which I recently rewrote for Brad. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Not that I know of, and I think some customization to make it more child-friendly would be good. Although, the issue is balancing accessibility with visual appeal, and my essay went a little overboard on the design, I think. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
FWIW I think your design was perfect and it's the kind of thing we need a lot more of. The only problem I see is possible download time for the extra HTML and/or CSS; storage space is not an issue. If you don' mind, I'll adapt and use your basic essay design on some of my essays. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
BTW: I do hope the outreach initiative expands to do something about our other walls of text - looks like we've lost another editor - not that I'm blaming anyone on the admin team at all. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, my design (stolen from a cc-by-sa source that also promotes free knowledge) is fun but a little slow and could have been more accessible if I had some more free time. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I also have a simpler design at User:Fetchcomms/Humor, which loads faster (for me). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:02, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Otrs

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Hi, I want to thank you for your comment/support at my OTRS volunteer application which I am pleased to report was successful. I will be starting steadily but look forward to contributing and assisting in this new area, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 09:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for I Hope Like Heck

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