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Your submission at Articles for creation: Samuel Mclin (July 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Winged Blades of Godric was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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∯WBG^converse 14:42, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joseph Dinkel (July 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Winged Blades of Godric was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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∯WBG^converse 14:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Tameka Hobbs for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tameka Hobbs is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tameka Hobbs until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ∯WBG^converse 14:49, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Herbert Franklin Sheldon has been accepted

Herbert Franklin Sheldon, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Bkissin (talk) 16:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Library of the World's Best Literature (July 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Whispering^(t) 19:04, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft creation

Hi. As you're probably aware, there's a recent thread which touched on your creation and submission of drafts. I've been asked to comment on this. I've noticed that you have a tendency to create large numbers of short drafts. Looking at your contribution log, I see 100 new drafts in the last two months. Most of these are about interesting, historical topics, which is a good thing. The encyclopedia suffers badly from WP:RECENTISM and self-promotion; so it's truly gratifying to me that we have editors who write about the kinds of topics you do.

That being said, I think you would be a more valuable contributor if you started fewer new articles, and invested more time working on each one to explore the topic in greater depth before you submit them for review. As you research each topic, you might discover that there's just not enough good sources out there to support every draft passing our notability requirements. That's fine. I start plenty of articles that never get past the stage of a few random notes or a bare outline. You can see a few of them in my userspace drafts collection.

In my career as a software developer, one of the difficult things I had to learn was Egoless programming. It's not about getting your stuff published. It's about advancing the bigger project. If something you write is declined or rejected, try not to get too worked up over it, or defensive about the feedback. Spend some time trying to understand the issues your reviewer found. Sometimes you can fix the problem by doing more work on it. Sometimes, it's best to just accept that this isn't going anywhere and move onto something else.

-- RoySmith (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello User:RoySmith. Are Userspace drafts deleted after 6 months? One of the issues I'm facing is a relentless flow of drafts on notable subjects nominated for speedy deletions. As far as drafts on non-notable subjects, which ones do you think aren't notable? I am happy to discuss. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Drafts in userspace are exempt from WP:G13 until you put a {{AFC submission}} template on them. So, working on early drafts in your userspace is probably a good thing to do. If you look at that collection of drafts in my userspace that I linked to above, you'll notice some have been hanging around for years with nobody bothering them or me. This totally removes the time pressure to get something done before the G13 clock runs out.

As for specific problematic drafts, the best way to get a handle on that is to just look at which drafts of yours have been declined. As I said, don't think of the declines as defeats, think of them as constructive feedback. The one specific draft which gave rise to this thread is Draft:Frank Cherry, which was rejected, and then you resubmitted with only minor changes. You would have done better to discuss with Winged Blades of Godric to find out why they felt it was not notable. Simply resubmitting it without addressing the core problem wasn't likely to be productive. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Frank Cherry established one of the first Black Israelite churches and has received very substantial coverage. In fact, he's still being discussed more than a 100 years after his death. Keep in mind not all sources are readily availavle online so I added a further reading section. More of an expert on the subjext area than I am affirmed the subject as notable. So it's a good example of a notable subject that should be in mainspace where our coverage is lacking especially in that area. As far as WBG he also declined Draft:Pinellas High School and other manifestly notavle subjects. This in addition to other policy violations. FloridaArmy (talk) 20:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

If you want to know why WBG rejected your draft, you should ask him, not me. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Broadway High School in Seattle (July 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Done. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your tireless work creating new articles Theroadislong (talk) 20:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 22:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Archie Lindo has been accepted

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∯WBG^converse 08:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dan Doo (July 10)

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Theroadislong (talk) 07:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lu Palmer (July 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Whispering^(t) 19:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for July 10

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Frank Cherry has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 20:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Julian de Bruyn Kops

This was moved to the main space. I also created the redirects and looks like there were already plenty of Wikilinks leading to the article. AfC script did not generate a notice. This sometimes happens when there is already a WikiProject Assessment on the talk page of the draft. Anyways, the link is above. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks very much for your assistance User:CNMall41. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bantaskine (July 10)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by DGG was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: There is is simply not enough for an article on the estate ( or the artist ).

DGG ( talk ) 22:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Harold Holland (July 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bearcat was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Bearcat (talk) 23:05, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Simon Turman

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:05, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Merged to Florida Peninsular. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: There Grows a Bonnie Brier Bush has been accepted

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Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 02:12, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alton Redd (July 11)

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Zingarese talk · contribs 23:29, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Zingarese how did you come across this draft? FloridaArmy (talk) 02:13, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft resubmissions without fixing problems

Draft:Alton Redd was recently declined by Winged Blades of Godric. You resubmitted it with no changes, and no response to WBG's comments. That's not useful, and just wastes everybody's time. Please don't do it again. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

WBG did not address my comments on notability on the talk page. He also has a history of dirlsruptive and abusive actions towards me. Clean up your act Roy. You're better than this. You don't think a Jazz drummer who's been covered in Billboard for his albums, who's noted as a major player in the LA jazz scene, who appears in movies such as Citizen Kane and performs internationally with notable artists and bands isn't notable? You're way off base. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Let me suggest a compromise. Winged Blades of Godric, leave FloridaArmy's drafts alone. Let other people review them. There's plenty of other work you can do.

In return, FloridaArmy, you put more effort into writing better drafts. That includes taking reviewer's comments more seriously, accepting that not every draft will end up in mainspace, and being more selective about which you submit.

And, both of you make a stronger effort to WP:AGF on the other's part. You are both, in your own ways, advancing our goal of writing an encyclopedia, even if there's some friction between the two of you in the ways you're going about doing it. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:19, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

• This is a long-term problem and asking politely that they stop is likely not going to help. FloridaArmy was banned in 2018 from article creation and banned from the AFD process in 2018. FA can only use AFC for article creation. See the discussion at ANI where this is said: "FloridaArmy is prohibited from creating new articles in mainspace or participating or AFD. AFC is available for new articles they want to create and it seems reasonable to allow a single comment/opinion to be offered in AFDs created by FA." The problems that led to the ban were the same one we see here: CIR, IDHT etc.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 14:38, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm aware of all that. I'm just trying to find a productive way forward. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Broadway High School (Seattle) has been accepted

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AfC notification: Draft:Betty Brown (actress) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Betty Brown (actress). Thanks! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:28, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: George J. Alden has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 07:36, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joseph Dinkel has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 08:42, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Samuel Mclin has been accepted

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Your draft article, Draft:Herbert S. Phillips

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Jefferson High School (Gretna, Louisiana) has been accepted

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Smartyllama (talk) 17:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: East Forsyth High School (Georgia) has been accepted

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Smartyllama (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mansfield Memorial Museum has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Walter L. Smith (scholar) has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 08:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Leslie Stowe (actor) (July 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MJL was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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–MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

citation template

For newspaper referneces, please use the= newspaper field on cite news to give the name of the newspaper, not "via". Via is adnadditional field to indicate htat you found it on some other site, such as a newspaper aggregatior . Similarly with other cite templates DGG ( talk ) 07:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Gallegher (character) has been accepted

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Draft:Bird Creek, Alaska

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Raymond Lee (child actor and film historian) has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 07:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Karl Decker (journalist) has been accepted

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:C. H. Lindsley. Thanks! -- RoySmith (talk) 14:34, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Arda La Croix (July 18)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Calvin Graves (July 18)

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Mjs1991 (talk) 02:32, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

The submission's references show he was a member of the North Carolina Assembly and State Senate. Notability is well established. I have resubmitted. 05:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Edgar Jones (actor, producer, and director) (July 20)

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Your draft article, Draft:Helen Dahl

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Draft:Webster Cullison

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Draft:Will Machlin

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Draft:Seacoast Bank

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Lily of Poverty Flat (July 24)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thieves (1919 film) has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Cora Drew has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Henry C. Rowland has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: John Nicolas Choate has been accepted

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Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ceelle Burke (July 27)

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Draft:Lake Pios Reserve

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Judd Deere has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Gardner Hunting has been accepted

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Draft:St. Mary's Seminary (Narragansett)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: F. Harmon Weight (July 31)

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Eagleash (talk) 12:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Yet another arbitrary break

• Draft:Linda Waggoner
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• Draft:James Wright (Jamaica)? Deleted without notification? FloridaArmy (talk) 11:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Redirects to alt. names and names with initials and , Jr. Will be needed.. Photo illus. would be good to add..

Draft:Walter Percival

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Draft:Sam Baroudi

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Harold Entwistle has been accepted

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Draft:Nasra Yusuf

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Draft:William Hughes Curran

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Your submission at Articles for creation: 152 Nassau (August 3)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Walter Percival has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Walter Percival (August 3)

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User:MJL, fortunately those aren't the only sources cited. Also, John Howard Reid is cited in a great many of our articles, see here. If he's not a reliable source there is a great deal of work to do. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:20, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

@FloridaArmy: For IMDb: True, but I'd prefer to see it converted into an external link as is standard. For Lula: It caused me to trip an edit filter: Special:AbuseLog/24536428 after using ReFill. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

User:MJL I added a link to some additional sources on the article talk page. I think this should be enough to establish notability. Also, I don't think I used IMDb to build the article. IBDB is cited and lists a bunch of theatrical productions he was involved with and his roles. Seems legitimate to me. As far as IMDb, it list lots more films he was involved in, so even if it's not reliable in and of itself it can be used as the basis to expand the article going forward and shows the subject was had significant roles in LOTS of notable productions. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:43, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

[Thank you for the ping] Yes that's good! Thank you :D –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 21:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Great!!! Thanks for your help. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:14, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Your uploads of ATLIB images.

I see you have added ATLIB images to various articles. Don't you think you should attribute them to ATLIB, which is a condition of use? Moriori (talk) 01:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

The photographs are attributed if you click on them. My understanding is that on Wikipedia we don't generally include such source information. If others disagree they are welcome to add note of the holding institution but my experience on Wikipedia is that the consensus is such attribution on the photo itself is adequate and is not required within encyclopedia entries. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:50, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

The most recent one you added, to Hone Heke, contains in the file summary the following stipulation, "Permission. (Reusing this file). Any publication must be accompanied by the credit "Godber Collection, Alexander Turnbull Library". I take that as meaning in the caption below the image. Moriori (talk) 02:21, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that information accompanies the photograph as you discovered when you clicked on it. That's where all the licensing and detailed source information is located. I am following practice as indicated and explained to me in working with phorographs here previously. If you'd like to seek out a broader consensus or clarification from those with greater expertise, I am happy to listen but this is how I've been instructed when I've tried to include such information in photo captions. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

OK. Seems a bit odd that when someone specifically asks us to attribute the source we actually hide the source where the reader can't see it. Still, I don't know all the rules so I've dropped a query to Commons. Cheers Moriori (talk) 02:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

I can see both points of view. The argument I've seen is that we only want captions to include what's relevant to the article itself and that licensing info and other details go on the photo page itself. Unless an artist is notable, even when they request attribution similar practice seems to be followed. Whether attibution on the photopage is enough I don't know but I try to do what I'm told. FloridaArmy (talk) 03:01, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Te Whaiti (August 4)

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viz ✦ 08:38, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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User:Viztor, Done. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Catlins Conservation Park has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Morere (August 5)

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Dan arndt (talk) 02:25, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Waka hurdling (August 5)

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Dan arndt (talk) 02:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Francis Thompson (film director) has been accepted

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Dan arndt (talk) 07:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Garrard College (August 6)

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Theroadislong (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:The Gothic Building

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. kingboyk (talk) 07:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)