User talk:Ganbaruby/Archive 4
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Please review my request
◢ Ganbaruby! I did as you say to provide more sources for what I'm saying. Because some administrator look biased there, so please check it because you are like the administrator who genuinely say something. Eroberar (talk) 05:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
could you please add this below thumb image in English Jackie Chan article
mentioning Jackie chan and Lee Min-ho (actor) as brand ambassadors of UNICEF in 2010. Thanking you 61.222.202.195 (talk) 05:07, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- File an edit request at the respective talk page and be sure to include a reliable source. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 06:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank You for helping me
i am really grateful to you for helping me to tag my article.Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assassin7177 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
McSpicy article
Thanks for the edits! I'd been planning to do a bit of work on the article, but since you've also done some, I hoped I could bounce some thoughts off you:
1. OR - every country seems to have its own story of the McSpicy, even if in general it's a chicken leg/thigh/drum* spicy battered patty with lettuce and mayo on a bun. So I am wary of us saying it was introduced in 1999 since we only know that's true in Singapore. But should we just describe the situation in each country? It seems OR to go beyond that.
( * description differs by country - it is "thigh and drum" in Singapore, "thigh" in HK, and "whole muscle leg meat" in India.)
2. Differnt variations - there's a McSpicy Paneer in India, and a McSpicy Shanghai in Korea (made with chicken breast and with a tomato slice). How best to include them? I was going to put them under the "product description" section, but you deleted it :)
3. I was planning to delete the India dispute section. The only link to the McSpicy specifically seems to be the wordplay in the article title. But I saw you edited so thought I'd ask your input.
Thanks! Hypnotist uk (talk) 16:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hypnotist uk: Go wild. My edits were mosty rewording and taking out poorly written material. I can take a loon at it when you're done. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 10:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks again. Have done so, if you fancy taking a look! Hypnotist uk (talk) 15:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Hypnotist uk: Looks better. Nice work! ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 15:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
on the best selling video game consoles of all time
i found this press release from atari that says the 7800 is over 1 million consoles sold. https://atariage.com/forums/uploads/monthly_01_2008/post-9346-1201143700.jpg Also scroll up i also put a source for the 3DO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 (talk) 02:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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Kitten Pyramid
Hi there Thanks so much for your help and guidance. I have responded in The Teahouse. As a well intentioned wiki editor I would like to continue trying to contribute some more information about the musical collective Kitten Pyramid, if possible. I have no financial gain to be made. The original mention (red link) of the collective has now been edited out of the Tom Robinson article, which makes me very sad. Feeling rather embarrassed and somewhat bombarded last night, I do feel a little better this morning and would like to start again. Thanks for the guidance. I will follow it and have another go. Angie AngieArtisticIndustries (talk) 10:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- @AngieArtisticIndustries: I appreciate the effort, and I will admit that the learning curve to become a Wikipedian is very, very steep. If you do want to recreate the article, be sure that the subject fulfills WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC, which is that we want secondary, independent, reliable sources to discuss the subject in depth. I always suggest beginners to complete the the Wikipedia Adventure first and create the draft through the Articles for Creation process. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 11:01, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you once again. I intend to follow your guidance and appreciate your encouragement to have another go. A steep learning curve indeed. Angie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.51.186 (talk) 13:43, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Sadas db with new references
Hello Ganbaruby, thank you for your feedback on my page Sadas Db. I modified the references according to the suggested template. You can find all changed references here in my sandbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giuseppe_Ardolino/sandbox I hope that they are ok because I would like to publish the page. I want to thank you again for your collaboration }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 15:36, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: Great! I don't speak Italian, so I want you to make sure that Sadas passes WP:NCORP. You need to demonstrate notability by citing multiple reliable sources that are independent of Sadas. Look for newspapers or independent publications instead of announcements by the company. You also need to have a citation for every single piece of information, and some sentences right now are lacking. Either find a source or remove it. The draft review will be very strict on this, so make it good! Also note that Crunchbase is considered unreliable as a source (WP:RSP), so I'd remove it. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 15:52, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: thank you for your precious feedback, I really appreciated it. In these months I totally changed my references, because before They didn't respect the Wikipedia guidelines. Now all the references are independent and are on independent, newspapers, blogs, websites in which it's mentioned the company. As suggested I removed Crunchbase and I added the other two independent references. Concerning a single piece of information, I am trying to find references to insert in the "Partnership section" in this way, all sections of my page will have almost one reference. What do you think about this? this is updated page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giuseppe_Ardolino/sandbox . I look forward to publishing the page. Thanks a lot }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC) (Say hi!)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: Sorry for the late reply, but I've been quite busy lately. I've added a template with a button for you to submit the draft when you think it's ready for review. You mention that you cite blogs, which usually aren't considered reliable (WP:BLOGS). There's also some neutral point of view concerns in some sentences, especially when you words like "seamlessly integrates", "range of solutions for data analysis", and "close collaborative relationship", among others. Also, instead of so many small paragraphs, try to lump them into bigger paragraphs for easier readability. Lastly, by your current citations, it's unclear what your citations are supporting, and a lot of sentences look like it is unreferenced. We want to put the references at the end of whatever the reference supports. If I have a book titled Apples from the USA that says apples are grown in the USA, compare these two citations:
- In the article Apple: "Apples are grown in the United States.[1]
- In the article United States: "Fruit grown in the United States include oranges, apples,[2] peaches, and cherries.
- The reason why I brought this up is because you often put the footnote in the middle of a sentence. If there is no reference for the rest of the sentence, don't include it! For example, if I didn't have a source that oranges, peaches, and cherries are grown in the USA, then I can't include that in the article. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 06:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, thanks for your reply. I modified the sentences that are a little bit promotional and I lumped small paragraphs into bigger ones for easier readability (as suggested). Regarding references, I checked and I positioned them into the more appropriate part of the sentence to explain what I have written. What do you think? I am ready to ask the publication? Thanks a lot and enjoy your weekend }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: You still have large chunks of of the article with no sourcing. Either find a source or remove them. Look at good articles like Apple Inc. to see how they do sourcing. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby Thanks for your collaboration and I start to read your suggested Apple page. In order to completely understand your feedback, could you indicate which part of my page needs some references? In this way, I can find some references or eliminate the section. Really thanks and enjoy weekend }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 14:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: I put citation needed in places that should have a source. Note again that I can't read Italian, so I can't read your sources. If a source can be used in two places, use named references to duplicate them. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 15:14, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, sorry for my delayed answer. I really appreciated your feedback and basing on it, I refreshed my trial page with your suggestions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giuseppe_Ardolino/sandbox). I found new references and in other cases, I eliminated or merged some sections. I kindly ask for your feedback in order to prepare the page for publication. (Finger crossed;). Thanks a lot Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 16:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: Nice! I've moved the draft to the draftspace at Draft:Sadas. I think you could go ahead and submit the draft for review; I don't usually review drafts myself, so another user will help you with that. Good luck! ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 16:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, thank you for the quick answer, really appreciated your kindness and collaboration. I submitted my draft for review. Will I have some notification about some responses related to the review, right? and How can I control the confirmation of my review submission? In which page/list? Thank you a lot }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 16:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: Nice! I've moved the draft to the draftspace at Draft:Sadas. I think you could go ahead and submit the draft for review; I don't usually review drafts myself, so another user will help you with that. Good luck! ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 16:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, sorry for my delayed answer. I really appreciated your feedback and basing on it, I refreshed my trial page with your suggestions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giuseppe_Ardolino/sandbox). I found new references and in other cases, I eliminated or merged some sections. I kindly ask for your feedback in order to prepare the page for publication. (Finger crossed;). Thanks a lot Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 16:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: I put citation needed in places that should have a source. Note again that I can't read Italian, so I can't read your sources. If a source can be used in two places, use named references to duplicate them. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 15:14, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby Thanks for your collaboration and I start to read your suggested Apple page. In order to completely understand your feedback, could you indicate which part of my page needs some references? In this way, I can find some references or eliminate the section. Really thanks and enjoy weekend }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 14:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: You still have large chunks of of the article with no sourcing. Either find a source or remove them. Look at good articles like Apple Inc. to see how they do sourcing. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, thanks for your reply. I modified the sentences that are a little bit promotional and I lumped small paragraphs into bigger ones for easier readability (as suggested). Regarding references, I checked and I positioned them into the more appropriate part of the sentence to explain what I have written. What do you think? I am ready to ask the publication? Thanks a lot and enjoy your weekend }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: Sorry for the late reply, but I've been quite busy lately. I've added a template with a button for you to submit the draft when you think it's ready for review. You mention that you cite blogs, which usually aren't considered reliable (WP:BLOGS). There's also some neutral point of view concerns in some sentences, especially when you words like "seamlessly integrates", "range of solutions for data analysis", and "close collaborative relationship", among others. Also, instead of so many small paragraphs, try to lump them into bigger paragraphs for easier readability. Lastly, by your current citations, it's unclear what your citations are supporting, and a lot of sentences look like it is unreferenced. We want to put the references at the end of whatever the reference supports. If I have a book titled Apples from the USA that says apples are grown in the USA, compare these two citations:
- @Ganbaruby: thank you for your precious feedback, I really appreciated it. In these months I totally changed my references, because before They didn't respect the Wikipedia guidelines. Now all the references are independent and are on independent, newspapers, blogs, websites in which it's mentioned the company. As suggested I removed Crunchbase and I added the other two independent references. Concerning a single piece of information, I am trying to find references to insert in the "Partnership section" in this way, all sections of my page will have almost one reference. What do you think about this? this is updated page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giuseppe_Ardolino/sandbox . I look forward to publishing the page. Thanks a lot }} Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC) (Say hi!)
I don't think you actually submitted it. You have to click the blue button saying "Submit the draft for review!" at Draft:Sadas. As for notifications, you'll get them on your talk page. The page should also be in your Watchlist at Special:Watchlist, where you can keep track of a list of changes. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 16:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ganbaruby, thank you for your feedback and suggestion. I clicked more times on "Submit the draft for review!" and it has been shown me this message: "Review waiting to be patient" on Draft:Sadas. I think my page is in review pending but it's not clear for me! Could you help me to understand? Please. Really thank you for your support Giuseppe Ardolino (talk) 12:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Giuseppe Ardolino: It is pending now. Just be patient, and a volunteer will hopefully review it soon. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 13:26, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
New Page Patrol December Newsletter
Hello Ganbaruby,
- Year in review
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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4 | Onel5969 (talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | JTtheOG (talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | Mcampany (talk) | 9,103 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 6,401 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Mccapra (talk) | 4,918 | Patrol Page Curation |
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Edit requests
Hi. Could you please take a look at these edit requests?:
Talk:Israel#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2020
Talk:History of Israel#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2020
Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watchlonly (talk • contribs) 15:15, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Done. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 16:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. On a different note, I just realized the reader can't see all the sources in the Israel article beyond the first 402. There are over 200 references missing. Do you know how to fix it?--Watchlonly (talk) 16:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Watchlonly: Fixed it. A script got confused and broke reference 402. Thanks for the heads up. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. On a different note, I just realized the reader can't see all the sources in the Israel article beyond the first 402. There are over 200 references missing. Do you know how to fix it?--Watchlonly (talk) 16:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
You forgot something
Here it says "Under Israeli law, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and Yemen are enemy countries..." However, that's not the case anymore with Sudan, which opened diplomatic relations with Israel last October. Could you take out that country from the sentence? Thank you for everything you are doing. You have been of great help.--Watchlonly (talk) 05:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Sudan and Iran aren't in the reference at all. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 10:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Two edit requests
Could you take a look at this and this? Thanks--Watchlonly (talk) 20:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Edit request
Could you take a look at this edit request? Thanks--Watchlonly (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Possible disruption, WP:Get the point
Hi. Could you please take a look at this discussion whenever you can? (motivated by a series of edits and reverts) It seems a user is not conducting himself in good faith. Thanks--Watchlonly (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Logic models
Why did you remove my addition to the logic model types?
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1856 establishments in Taiwan
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Closing edit requests
Make sure to mark the answered=
as "yes". You might want to consider using WP:EPH for the purpose since it facilitates things a bit. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- @RandomCanadian: Oops, I usually remember to do it. I’ve used EPH in the past but found it less burdensome to do it manually (don’t remember why). Thanks for going through the backlog though! ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 17:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Austalia scout Jamboree
HeyGanbaruby thank you very much for fixing it up. thank bye (User talkTimmys 2001) 02:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Fred Hirsch (disambiguation) redirect revert
Although the middle name of "Siegfried" is included in the Wikipedia, he is more widely known as Fred Hirsch. Many people may search for Fred Hirsch and end up on an unintended Wikipedia webpage so it would only make sense to have a disambiguation page for better accessibility to our Wikipedia community. Before you reverted the "Redirect" tag on Fred Hirsch (professor)'s page, the Wikipedia search engine appeared presenting a curated list of all the related pages with the keyword "Fred Hirsch". For researchers, this is very useful.
Click here to see Fred Hirsch (disambiguation).
WisdomNerd (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey there. As mentioned above, there are several Fred Hirschs of great importance. How are we able to make it so the search for their name directs us to the search engine or disambiguation page? Thank you for your help.
WisdomNerd (talk) 21:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @WisdomNerd: Ok, several page moves to do here, in this order:
- Fred Siegfried Hirsch -> Fred Hirsch (entrepreneur) (or replace entrepreneur with one word that better describes him; please let me know if you have one)
- Fred Hirsch -> Fred Hirsch (professor)
- Fred Hirsch (disambiguation) -> Fred Hirsch
- This is how Wikipedia handles people with the same name. However, we have no control over how search engines like Google handle this issue, and frankly we don't really care. Redirects cannot go on top of an article because it hides the rest of the article. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:14, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- First two are Done. Third one is a technical move and is waiting for approval at WP:RM#TR. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:22, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the edit - Arts Club of Washington
Thanks - I didn't quite know if adding the YouTube channel was appropriate. The Club is starting to update a large amount of it public facing information, and I suspect that part of my team is going to updating a bunch in the next few months. Additionally, we have a large number of artists who have asked us to link to their sites. So, again, thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HJudeS (talk • contribs) 02:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- @HJudeS: Took another look at your edits and they're very problematic. Wikipedia should be written in a neutral point of view and your text is very promotional. Please do not link to external links within the text; in fact, keep external links to a minimum. We usually just link the official site in the "External links" section. You also say "my team", which makes me suspect you have a conflict of interest with the subject. Please read WP:COI in its entirety and make relevant disclosures. You are strongly advised to not edit the article directly, but to file edit requests on the article's talk page instead (see WP:PAID). Thanks for your understanding. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 02:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry for the confusion, some of my research students want to assist some of the local DC associations updating their entries. It does appear that you deleted/reverted all of additions that I made earlier today. I now have to admit confusion about what would be appropriate in order to have a complete, accurate history here and elsewhere. HJudeS (talk) 03:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)HJudeSHJudeS (talk) 03:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- @HJudeS: The entire thing read like an advertisement and was poorly sourced. You'll have to figure out how to present information in a neutral point of view while also sourcing to reliable sources that are independent of the arts club. Do not add any information that cannot be sourced, and do not add inline external links. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry for the confusion, some of my research students want to assist some of the local DC associations updating their entries. It does appear that you deleted/reverted all of additions that I made earlier today. I now have to admit confusion about what would be appropriate in order to have a complete, accurate history here and elsewhere. HJudeS (talk) 03:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)HJudeSHJudeS (talk) 03:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1856 in Taiwan
A tag has been placed on Category:1856 in Taiwan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
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Thank you for the reply in Teahouse
Thank you for the reply in Teahouse. I didn't know how to thank you in the Teahouse, or continue the conversation there, as I'm pretty disoriented by the Wiki communication protocol.--Tektramp (talk) 19:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Tektramp: No worries! A good template to know is
{{Reply to}}
, which sends a notification to whoever you're trying to reply to. If you were trying to reply to me, you would put my username like so:{{Reply to|Ganbaruby}}
. I've used it in this reply to notify you (go into edit source to see it). ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 23:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Measles Page
Thank you for you speedy and helpful response on the measles page. As suggested I have added the paragraph (became more than a sentence) to the talk page. HaraldW1954 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi!
Thanks for welcoming me. I guess only registered editors can add the information about Sarcoma Awareness Month in July to the List of month-long observances, so that leaves me as a newbie out. Eventually I'd like to edit more sarcoma content as I am on the Sarcoma Alliance non-profit board and some of the info needs updating. Again, thanks, and I look forward to figuring this out. (By the way, everyone on the how-to-edit video looked younger than my adult kids, hahah!) BogusBill (talk) 18:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
- @BogusBill: The page List of month-long observances is protected from editing from newer users because of a history of disruptive editing, but even if you could edit, my point of the event needing notability still stands. You can still help with sarcoma-related articles though; I'm sure there's plenty of things to update. If you're not sure how to edit, the Wikipedia Adventure is a pretty good tutorial. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Hello Ganbaruby. I am not sure what you mean by your statement, "The page List of month-long observances is protected from editing from newer users because of a history of disruptive editing, but even if you could edit, my point of the event needing notability still stands." Notability was not mentioned in your one message to me previously. So how do I show notability? Sarcoma is a rare cancer which often has delayed diagnosis because of lack of awareness on the part of both patients and physicians. Surely that should make it at least as notable as "Hexagonal Awareness Month" in March, or "International Masturbation Month" in May, or the mysterious "ME/CFS Awareness Month" (also May), which only has a reference to Chase's Calendar of Events. Numerous organizations celebrate July as Sarcoma Awareness Month, and Chase's Calendar of Events has included it; they obviously are recognized as a reliable resource. Here are some URLs for information. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] I could cite many more. Please let me know what I need to provide to show notability. Thank you for any help! BogusBill (talk) 03:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
- @BogusBill: I've removed a bunch of them. List inclusion criteria is tricky: either everything is notable or everything is non-notable (WP:CSC). Notability basically means whether or not a subject should have an article on Wikipedia, which is demonstrated by significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. In this list's case, we need every entry to be notable; they don't need to have a Wikipedia article yet, but enough sources must be provided so that it's clear that notability is met. In your case, I don't see enough independent sources to convincingly tell me that Sarcoma Awareness Month is notable enough (note that I'm not questioning that the event exists). We need to see that people completely unrelated to the event show interest that they write something about it. Also, see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 04:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Thanks for the further explanation. You say: “We need to see that people completely unrelated to the event show interest that they write something about it.” So - can we have an entry that links to the Sarcoma Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcoma which mentions the Month- In the US, July is widely recognized as Sarcoma Awareness Month.[31] The UK has a Sarcoma Awareness Week in July led by Sarcoma UK, the bone and soft-tissue cancer charity.[32]) and cite some or all of these unrelated and independent references? https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/188/all-info https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-resolution/276/text https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/sarcoma-awareness-month/ https://www.fox10tv.com/news/recognizing-and-treating-sarcoma/article_24508aa6-a295-11e9-81b1-5bda69cc9926.html https://www.wcia.com/ciliving-tv/sarcoma-awareness-month/ I or someone else might eventually write a separate entry for Sarcoma Awareness Month. If that is enough, don't bother reading the rest of this lengthy message! But if it isn't enough, the reason I ask for this is that this would seem to exceed the criteria by which many other health-related months are listed. Frankly, it is usually people related in some way who have interest in those. For example, Lyme Disease Awareness Month, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity Awareness Month, and National Celiac Disease Awareness Month don’t have separate Wikipedia entries and only one reference to a generic book with no indication what it contains. Oddly, there is also a separate Celiac Awareness Month which links to the entry for Celiac Disease, but the brief mention of Month in that entry has two references, not independent sources. Alzheimer’s and Brain Awareness Month links to the Alzheimer’s entry but there is no mention of the Month there, and the single reference is a 2015 CNN story about brain activities to keep you sharp, and not about the month - the only reference to that is through links to the Alzheimer’s Association, and thus isn’t really “unrelated”. However, I am NOT suggesting you remove any of these! All I am saying is use the same criteria and add Sarcoma Awareness Month. Others with entries, such as Jazz Appreciation Month only has references in the entry and none are independent. Mathematics Appreciation Month (no longer called that apparently) has a couple of related references and nothing in the entry that indicates independence. I could go on and on about whether there are any “independent sources” for National Poetry Writing Month, National Volunteer Month, School Library Month, Second Chance Month, even National Distracted Driving Month, and many others. Again, I am NOT suggesting you remove any of these! Again, all I’m saying is please add Sarcoma Awareness Month. Thanks for any help! BogusBill (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
- @BogusBill: Sources are better, and I think it could be reasonably be added in. I'm also going to go and remove some more entries (hah), but please read Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:07, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Thanks for the further explanation. You say: “We need to see that people completely unrelated to the event show interest that they write something about it.” So - can we have an entry that links to the Sarcoma Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcoma which mentions the Month- In the US, July is widely recognized as Sarcoma Awareness Month.[31] The UK has a Sarcoma Awareness Week in July led by Sarcoma UK, the bone and soft-tissue cancer charity.[32]) and cite some or all of these unrelated and independent references? https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/188/all-info https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-resolution/276/text https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/sarcoma-awareness-month/ https://www.fox10tv.com/news/recognizing-and-treating-sarcoma/article_24508aa6-a295-11e9-81b1-5bda69cc9926.html https://www.wcia.com/ciliving-tv/sarcoma-awareness-month/ I or someone else might eventually write a separate entry for Sarcoma Awareness Month. If that is enough, don't bother reading the rest of this lengthy message! But if it isn't enough, the reason I ask for this is that this would seem to exceed the criteria by which many other health-related months are listed. Frankly, it is usually people related in some way who have interest in those. For example, Lyme Disease Awareness Month, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity Awareness Month, and National Celiac Disease Awareness Month don’t have separate Wikipedia entries and only one reference to a generic book with no indication what it contains. Oddly, there is also a separate Celiac Awareness Month which links to the entry for Celiac Disease, but the brief mention of Month in that entry has two references, not independent sources. Alzheimer’s and Brain Awareness Month links to the Alzheimer’s entry but there is no mention of the Month there, and the single reference is a 2015 CNN story about brain activities to keep you sharp, and not about the month - the only reference to that is through links to the Alzheimer’s Association, and thus isn’t really “unrelated”. However, I am NOT suggesting you remove any of these! All I am saying is use the same criteria and add Sarcoma Awareness Month. Others with entries, such as Jazz Appreciation Month only has references in the entry and none are independent. Mathematics Appreciation Month (no longer called that apparently) has a couple of related references and nothing in the entry that indicates independence. I could go on and on about whether there are any “independent sources” for National Poetry Writing Month, National Volunteer Month, School Library Month, Second Chance Month, even National Distracted Driving Month, and many others. Again, I am NOT suggesting you remove any of these! Again, all I’m saying is please add Sarcoma Awareness Month. Thanks for any help! BogusBill (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
- @BogusBill: I've removed a bunch of them. List inclusion criteria is tricky: either everything is notable or everything is non-notable (WP:CSC). Notability basically means whether or not a subject should have an article on Wikipedia, which is demonstrated by significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. In this list's case, we need every entry to be notable; they don't need to have a Wikipedia article yet, but enough sources must be provided so that it's clear that notability is met. In your case, I don't see enough independent sources to convincingly tell me that Sarcoma Awareness Month is notable enough (note that I'm not questioning that the event exists). We need to see that people completely unrelated to the event show interest that they write something about it. Also, see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 04:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Hello Ganbaruby. I am not sure what you mean by your statement, "The page List of month-long observances is protected from editing from newer users because of a history of disruptive editing, but even if you could edit, my point of the event needing notability still stands." Notability was not mentioned in your one message to me previously. So how do I show notability? Sarcoma is a rare cancer which often has delayed diagnosis because of lack of awareness on the part of both patients and physicians. Surely that should make it at least as notable as "Hexagonal Awareness Month" in March, or "International Masturbation Month" in May, or the mysterious "ME/CFS Awareness Month" (also May), which only has a reference to Chase's Calendar of Events. Numerous organizations celebrate July as Sarcoma Awareness Month, and Chase's Calendar of Events has included it; they obviously are recognized as a reliable resource. Here are some URLs for information. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] I could cite many more. Please let me know what I need to provide to show notability. Thank you for any help! BogusBill (talk) 03:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
References
- ^ https://www.sarcomaalliance.org/get-involved/sarcoma-awareness/
- ^ https://www.curesarcoma.org/sarcoma-awareness-month/
- ^ https://www.curesearch.org/How-to-Celebrate-Sarcoma-Awareness-Month
- ^ https://www.aacr.org/patients-caregivers/awareness-months/sarcoma-and-bone-cancer-awareness-month/
- ^ https://www.nfcr.org/blog/sarcoma-awareness-month
- @Ganbaruby:Thanks so much! And I am reading the Other Stuff Exists essay, and get it! Sorry to be such a novice to the ways of the Wiki! Thanks again.BogusBill (talk) 00:27, 9 February 2021 (UTC)BogusBill
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Kansas City International Airport 2020 data updates.
Hello and good day. Go to the Kansas City International Airport talk page. The 2020 update data for 2020 in infobox and annual passengers section is there to be done. It is a semi-protected page. Thank you.2601:581:8402:6620:F0F0:DA42:91E8:F261 (talk) 01:21, 12 February 2021 (UTC) @Ganbaruby:
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- @DrMel: This is my bad, but I forgot to put line breaks in the Teahouse reply, so its not showing up properly. I've corrected your table above; it should work now. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 10:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for your help at the Teahouse, where you showed me how to proceed in renaming the "Pat Spurgin" page to "Pat Pitney". I have posted the "Requested move" notice on the Talk page and people have begun to respond, so thanks to you I seem to be proceeding correctly.
Stub for horlah
Thanks for the response. Apart from playing in the National U20 team; he also played for Dunkwa United in Ghana (2017/2018), played for ABS FC in Nigeria (2018-2020). And it has reference; that's why I asked for stub for him Jhonnnnny (talk) 07:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Jhonnnnny: WP:NFOOTY specifically asks that the subject played in any game defined in WP:FPL, which I don't see that Horlah Oladeji has. Please provide the references you claim to have that demonstrates Oladeji fulfills the notability guidelines. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 08:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks so much for the response.
https://www.today.ng/sport/football/flying-eagles-paul-aigbogun-20-u20-wafu-cup-togo-176253
https://sportsembassy.com.ng/behold-the-list-of-nigerian-national-team-goalkeepers-past-and-present/ (No. 80) Jhonnnnny (talk) 08:17, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Jhonnnnny: Nope. We need significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. The first and third don't provide significant coverage. Only the second one could borderline count for notability, but even then it barely talks about his life/career, which would be a sourcing issue later on. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 08:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your response. Submitting for a stub is what I am after. But these are required references;
https://thenationalpilot.ng/2018/12/03/abs-goalkeeper-selects-for-feagles-wafu-cup/amp/
https://mobile.ghanaguardian.com/ghana-goalkeeper-sarpeh-horlah-joins-nigeria-side-abs-fc
https://aoifootball.com/2019/02/08/abs-appoints-hassan-abubakar-as-new-technical-adviser/
Jhonnnnny (talk) 08:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Jhonnnnny: Nope. You still did not provide enough sources to demonstrate GNG. First and third are not significant coverage. Second is basically as the second one from above. Even if still a stub, you still need to fulfill the notability guidelines. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 09:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay then. Thanks Jhonnnnny (talk) 09:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Ascribe4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Hostagecat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
@Ganbaruby: I tried replying on their talk page explaining that their claims were inaccurate. Among other things, User:Hostagecat repeatedly claimed AllMusic is unreliable and that I had not provide any sources when text did in fact have a citation, at the very end of the sentence they copy/pasted from. Instead of either accepting the facts I asserted or providing a clarification for what caused them to make such false claims they based their entire revert on—perhaps there was some sort of misunderstanding—Hostagecat broke off from discussion and filed an obscurant report. This complaint resulted in me receiving a warning by User:EdJohnston that I believe was undue. User:EdJohnston understandably had not been familiarized with the particularities of our conflict, accepted Hostagecat's claims without vetting if everything they said was accurate. When EdJohnston replied to me, for some reason they refrained from delving into the details I gave and instead turned their attention towards the 3rr and my earlier speculation that User:Hostagecat potentially might have been a sock, even though I had already stated Hostagecat has clarified they are not and that I assume good faith and believe them. EdJohnston has since moved on to other tasks without touching on the specific issues that I presented and has yet to respond to my request for assistance. --Ascribe4 (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ascribe4: This is a content dispute, which are solved by communicating with the other editor(s) to reach consensus. I don't see you trying hard enough to get to that consensus; you left one message, which was sadly unanswered, but then you go around badgering uninvolved editors to try to get them on your side instead of reaching out further. WP:3RR is a bright line rule, and 3+ reverts are a bannable offense, whatever the reason. The subject is outside of my realm of knowledge, so I have no opinion about any of this, and I don't know what you expect me to do about it. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:27, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby:I left two messages on Hostagecat's page, following much communication via edit summaries. It was not and is not my intent to diminish the 3rr rule, it was just not the focus of my reaching out to others, so I do not understand the attempt to make it the focus rather the specific issues that were raised. Was the warning User:EdJohnston gave me specifically a product of the 3rr or for the obscurant report which I am trying to clarify that User:Hostagecat filed? I am assuming it is the latter as Hostagecat also had a 3rr but did not receive a warning. Either way, Hostagecat revert was based on false assertions regarding Wikipedia policies to begin with. Due to their avasivenss and flight, I simply sought out an editor to act as a mediator, preferrably the editors who had been previously involved, or point me towards one interested. Did not mean not bother, was just attempting to seek help to clarify issues relating to Wikipedia standards and resolve a conflict. --Ascribe4 (talk) 22:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello User:Ascribe4. Administrators can't make another editor agree with your changes, all we can do is be sure the proper steps are being followed. And nobody else has a duty to serve as a mediator. It seems you have made very little effort to actually engage Hostagecat. Why not write out a proposal for how to change the article at Talk:Operation: Doomsday#Issues with current state of the article. Your lack of response on the article talk is in contrast with the large edits you made to the article itself, about six times altogether in mid-February where you added 4,000 bytes or more. Hostagecat made some specific critiques of your version to which so far you've made no response. EdJohnston (talk) 23:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby:The mediation was simply request for assistance, not a demand of duty. That aside, I have to question if my attempts at discussion are truly only valid if they take place on an article talk page. As said before, I engaged directly with User:Hostagecat on their user talk page, which at first seemed sufficient, before they broke off from what I thought was assertive yet fairly cooperative discussion before filing the complaint. (I am trying to reach out again.) If you skim our discussion, you can see I had responded specifically to each of their critiques, explaining that AllMusic is deemed reliable on WP:RSMUSIC, getting them to concede that spelling errors were minor (i.e. removing the initials from the acronym "K.M.D.") and addressing how there was a citation as at the end of the my text, et al, all contrary to their previous claims. Rather than address how they came about making quite blatantly false assertions or if there was some sort of misinformation, they went and filed an obscurant report. It was taken at face value and I was given me the warning which I believe was undue.
- Considering that User:Hostagecat did not receive a warning despite also crossing a 3rr I must ask for clarification, was the warning specifically a product of the 3rr or for report itself? As I am trying to correct for the record, Hostagecat's entire revert and their report that came out of it were predicated on erroneous claims to begin with. It is the particular nature of these blatantly false claims Hostagecat made, which we all keep circumventing, moreso than than itself that I am trying to focus on, clarify and address. --Ascribe4 (talk) 00:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ascribe4: I don't see enough effort to communicate. Either the article talk or the user talk is fine, but try harder. Your recent comment is a step in the right direction. For the record, Hostagecat got a 3RR warning from me too. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: We are getting somewhat subjective with notion of what is enough. There is only so much I can do if I make an effort to communicate with someone (who appears to talk around me) on their talk page, and that person chooses to break off and file a report that gets me a separate warning. I made note of your 3rr with a link in my previous comment. I was referring to and trying to clarify the warning that User:EdJohnston gave me. Are they now aware the complaint that was filed and their warning was predicated on false assertions? Do they understand the user who came to them was basing their revert on falsehoods? If either of you are not inclined to believe me, one can easily just look on User:Hostagecat's talk page. --Ascribe4 (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ascribe4: Please, just move on. From what I can see, you broke 3RR and got a warning for it, which just means don't do it again. You're spending too much energy finger pointing and whining instead of actively engaging in conversation to try to improve the article. It's called bold revert discuss, not bold revert revert revert revert revert complain. I am not EdJohnston, nor do I intend to get involved in this content dispute; do not expect any more replies about this from me. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Aside from being a first, I suppose was just perplexed that their revert, that this whole thing was based on claims that were simply just not true. And that the user I am engaging with refrains from addressing them, even now. I thought other editors would be quite concerned with a user going around making false claims and filing reports predicated on them. But I think I understand that from the perspective one completely unengaged with the conflict, they probably do not see any relevant difference between the two of us, so this consequently comes of as "finger pointing" to use your words on my part; even though everything I have stated can be verified just be skimming that one section on Hostagecat's talk page. I get the lack on interest, thanks for your time. If their are any other issue, I will consider your earlier proposals. --Ascribe4 (talk) 16:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ascribe4: Please, just move on. From what I can see, you broke 3RR and got a warning for it, which just means don't do it again. You're spending too much energy finger pointing and whining instead of actively engaging in conversation to try to improve the article. It's called bold revert discuss, not bold revert revert revert revert revert complain. I am not EdJohnston, nor do I intend to get involved in this content dispute; do not expect any more replies about this from me. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: We are getting somewhat subjective with notion of what is enough. There is only so much I can do if I make an effort to communicate with someone (who appears to talk around me) on their talk page, and that person chooses to break off and file a report that gets me a separate warning. I made note of your 3rr with a link in my previous comment. I was referring to and trying to clarify the warning that User:EdJohnston gave me. Are they now aware the complaint that was filed and their warning was predicated on false assertions? Do they understand the user who came to them was basing their revert on falsehoods? If either of you are not inclined to believe me, one can easily just look on User:Hostagecat's talk page. --Ascribe4 (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ascribe4: I don't see enough effort to communicate. Either the article talk or the user talk is fine, but try harder. Your recent comment is a step in the right direction. For the record, Hostagecat got a 3RR warning from me too. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello User:Ascribe4. Administrators can't make another editor agree with your changes, all we can do is be sure the proper steps are being followed. And nobody else has a duty to serve as a mediator. It seems you have made very little effort to actually engage Hostagecat. Why not write out a proposal for how to change the article at Talk:Operation: Doomsday#Issues with current state of the article. Your lack of response on the article talk is in contrast with the large edits you made to the article itself, about six times altogether in mid-February where you added 4,000 bytes or more. Hostagecat made some specific critiques of your version to which so far you've made no response. EdJohnston (talk) 23:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby:I left two messages on Hostagecat's page, following much communication via edit summaries. It was not and is not my intent to diminish the 3rr rule, it was just not the focus of my reaching out to others, so I do not understand the attempt to make it the focus rather the specific issues that were raised. Was the warning User:EdJohnston gave me specifically a product of the 3rr or for the obscurant report which I am trying to clarify that User:Hostagecat filed? I am assuming it is the latter as Hostagecat also had a 3rr but did not receive a warning. Either way, Hostagecat revert was based on false assertions regarding Wikipedia policies to begin with. Due to their avasivenss and flight, I simply sought out an editor to act as a mediator, preferrably the editors who had been previously involved, or point me towards one interested. Did not mean not bother, was just attempting to seek help to clarify issues relating to Wikipedia standards and resolve a conflict. --Ascribe4 (talk) 22:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Mariah Carey sales info is incorrect @Ganbaruby:
Here is a CURRENT link to the RIAA regarding Mariah Carey's ranking as an artist. If there happens to be 2 CURRENT pages that conflict -- as you suggest -- then THAT information should be represented in this Wiki article. For example... you could say... "based on where you look on the RIAA - Mariah is either tied w Barbra Streisand w 68.5 M or is behind her with 66.5.
It is not up to you or me to decide what is accurate -- only the RIAA. As someone who is "reporting honestly and accurately" it is your/my duty to make sure that her ranking is IN QUESTION.
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=awards_by_artist#search_section
From what I have gathered in my investigation is that "ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS" single -- garnered 2 Million in sales. NOT album sales. Since there is no other NEWS outlet, like Billboard or the AP, who has published anything about Carey having a milestone (tying w Streisand), instead only single sales ("the gift that keeps giving") -- that your page is most likely incorrect. Again, since there is some question -- then again -- let it be known that her ranking is questionable.
- @Mnirola42: I still think the difference lies in the "Type" column, where Streisand is listed as "Standard" and Carey as "All types". However, I'll leave your new edit request for another editor that may have more insight than I do. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 13:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
@Ganbaruby: "thinking" what the difference may be --- is NOT being accurate. Until the RIAA states what the difference is or what the error is -- then it's ethically responsible to republish information that is correct. Not guess work or choosing which source you like better. It is highly dubious that Mariah would hit a milestone of tying Streisand and RIAA, Billboard, The AP, etc... would ignore it. It would be MAJOR NEWS. I think you know that.
Edit Request
Hello there, as for the second edit request that I sent to make some fixings on Algerian War page, it seems that no one answering in the "consensus" there. Can you please look at the talk page there and make the changes with some of the sources I had provided? What is written there is not serious. Do I need to wait to pass the 4 days so I could make the changes by myself? Dr Holy Joker (talk) 05:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
I don't know, even Ganbaruby didn't reply to the message yet. Editor1234567891011121314151617 (Put here your chat stuff) 11:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)