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Query

Hello,

I have a question I was wondering if I could ask u as an administrator:

TeeVeeed was banned from editing under the Kiwi Farms topic. Since from my understanding Kiwi Farms falls under gender and sexuality - as Tee's recent vio of their ban was logged here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109061667 - would this msg they sent on Talk:The Right Stuff (blog): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109039416 be another topic ban vio since The Right Stuff is also a Nazi site like Kiwi Farms was Stephanie921 (talk) 18:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921: Full disclosure, I'm not an admin. But I'm somewhat familiar with the matter you're referring to. I only see a discretionary sanction at Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log/2022 banning the editor from engaging at Kiwi Farms, not at any other page. The editor was notified here that pages they were editing on the topic of gender and sexuality opened them to sanctions for any violations of policy. But I don't see that any sanctions were issued for the editor's actions at any page other than Kiwi Farms. It would be up to an admin to determine if the editor violated policy and should also be banned at any other page. General Ization Talk 20:29, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Okay, ty Stephanie921 (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Punjab, Pakistan

For last 30 days, I have been fixing the literacy rate and HDI of Punjab, Pakistan which is 66.3% and 0.564 respectively according to the given references but someone again mess up with them. Therefore, I had no other option but to remove literacy and HDI so no one can mess with it. So I request you to fix the literacy rate and HDI. Also, lock the Punjab, Pakistan wiki page Salman1911k (talk) 08:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh noes

Snitches are rewarded! Protonk (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@Protonk: You don't get to damage the project because you think you were slighted by @Bbb23. Keep it up and you'll have your own section at ANI. General Ization Talk 05:51, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
ok. Protonk (talk) 05:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Observation about the Rajacenna article

In regard to the edits of GilaNola you reverted, see this message left by Jacera at my user talk page. It seems highly likely to me that the two accounts are connected. —C.Fred (talk) 11:15, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Yes, although they seem to disagree on the subject's birth year. General Ization Talk 17:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit request mis-templated

I'm hunting down policies, and your response template to Talk:Donald Trump#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 August 2022 was incorrect, as what the user requested is basically identical to one of our example edit requests. The better option for the Talk page appearance would seem to me to be that I contact you directly about this and let you decide if you want to remedy it. A proper template would have been {{subst:Ep|n}} followed by an appropriate explanation to the effect of: "Sources are not required to be cited inline in the lead section when the information is well-attributed in the article body," perhaps with a section link or ref number to boot. Remember, for many readers the edit request may be their first interaction with the "community experience" of Wikipedia, so official-looking action especially should have every appearance of due consideration and care. SamuelRiv (talk) 22:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

My response was correct for the simple reason that "The last line of the main page before edits" does not identify exactly what content the editor was referring to and proposed be changed. Are you sure you're writing concerning my response? Another editor responded shortly after me advising that the content that editor believed they were referring to was present by consensus. General Ization Talk 23:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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2601:246:5600:193

Not sure what to do about it, but User talk:2601:246:5600:193:385B:390F:95CF:8C53, who you gave a final warning to in July, is back, as 2601:246:5600:193:E1F1:6B7F:FCDD:890B (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). GA-RT-22 (talk) 20:04, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@GA-RT-22: Not much to do about it, as the former IP is not blocked (so it is not block evasion) and a checkuser will not able to show that they are the same person (other than behavioral evidence). All we can really do is template them for new bad edits, and request they be blocked if they persist. If other IPs in the range are currently active and engaged in vandalism, a range block may be appropriate. General Ization Talk 20:33, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit made in list of old trees is correct.

The line that I added to the above mentioned page of wikipedia (mentioning again - "List of Old Trees") is correct since I picked this data from another wikipedia page Titled - "Old Tjikko" (source provided - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tjikko) and hence, not totally sure but, I believe what wikipedia has stated in that page is right. I am not much concerned about the addition of that line but if you care, consider it adding to that page. EditNew10 (talk) 17:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@EditNew10: Wikipedia may not be used as a source for itself. If the article at Old Tjikko includes citations of published, reliable sources that support the claim, you must reproduce those sources in adding the content to List of oldest trees. You may not add the content without citing a source with the content. General Ization Talk 17:39, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
@EditNew10: Also please note that Old Tjikko is already listed in the table at List of oldest trees#Clonal trees. General Ization Talk 18:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I understand. Thanks EditNew10 (talk) 17:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Lavash page edit

Thank you for the message. I have cited sources at the end of the text. These sources were already on the wikipedia page in other sections. Please let me know how I can improve 62.122.119.214 (talk) 00:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC) user 62.122.119.214

The sources should be added in proximity to the content they support, not at the end of the article. If the same source supports multiple elements in different locations in the article, cite the source multiple times, in each case adjacent to the content (it is possible to combine the citations later). See WP:CITE and WP:BURDEN. General Ization Talk 00:25, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors' October 2022 newsletter

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Thanks

Hey! Thank you so much for saving my edits to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radu_the_Handsome. It's difficult to keep that page updated with the correct information because bigoted people keep deleting that (historically accurate) passage about his life. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you :) Isracharisma (talk) 19:58, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Isracharisma: Thank you, and you're welcome. General Ization Talk 20:04, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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UnConstructive edit ? The new generation not interested to read articles or lengthy articles. In 4G internet speed they love listing audiobooks like alexa or any other voice assistance they prefer. If we listened a messy article . The voice over of any AI narrator comes in fast forward. my sapce between paragraph is a pause. And this pause comes in narrator voice.

If i am wrong then defiantly i need help of someone like you and any other senior wikipedian. But in my opinion My editing comes in good faith.

Thank you . Bijender dutta (talk) 18:21, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Please do no undo changes that are supported by official reliable sources

The source I've provided for the Amazigh name of Sofyan Amrabat nothing but the official News Agency of Morocco. If you are going to contest how the name is writer by the Official News Agency of Morocco then pleases provide your own source. Otherwise it's unjustified vandalism. Achraf112 (talk) 19:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

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Anon user who appears to have a long history of edit warring

Are you okay with moving that discussion here? Mine is semi protected due to long term harassment from many different IPs. (based on my background and academic work outside of wiki) — Shibbolethink ( ) 15:16, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@Shibboleth: Sorry, my work week is underway now, and I will be doing my best to stay engaged with that and not with Wikipedia. I'm not comfortable hosting a discussion in which I will be trying not to participate on my Talk page. General Ization Talk 16:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
All good and understandable. I think likely, based on prior interactions, that the discussion will go nowhere anyway. — Shibbolethink ( ) 16:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

I did not mean to remove your signature from the page. Apologies for any inconvenience. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Ron Merkle

I'm sure I've seen this before? Knitsey (talk) 05:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's an LTA: Atac2. General Ization Talk 05:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Now blocked. General Ization Talk 05:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Ahhh I will have seen that on the LTA article maybe. Thanks. Knitsey (talk) 05:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Sigh

Sorry, I came at you a little hard in my response as well; I'm fairly skilled at the dodge and parry when I'm taken to task. I should indeed have not posted my query right before having to step away. I deserved the chastizing, to some degree. :) cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 23:04, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sorry too if the "drive-by" comment seemed uncalled-for. I noted that it was your only edit (at that time) today, and was unfairly assuming that you likely wouldn't return today. If the OP had been proposing that the term had to be denoted as a slur (as apparently this editor seems to think), I would have been far less diplomatic with them, but I thought they did the right thing by raising the topic at the article to see what other editors thought about the issue before adding anything there; and so I was a bit puzzled by your suggestion that it was a "pointless" discussion. As it happens, I agree with everything you said. General Ization Talk 23:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
When I first started writing that response, I rapidly devolved into a huge soapboxing, and wrote a whole long paragraph before just deleting the whole thing... Then went the other way, being too terse. Eh. Just another day. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 03:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
@Anastrophe: Been there, done that. Usually decided later it was for the best that I climbed down off the soap box. No worries. Best wishes! General Ization Talk 04:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Little Einsteins

Annie’s shoes in Season 1 are actually pink and white, not MAGENTA and white. Plus, there should be no “The” before “Little Red Train”. Also, the Good Knight was the one who helped the Little Einsteins get the peas to make the soup for Rocket to eat, not the BAD Knight. Jason Feiner (talk) 01:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jason Feiner: Not on MY Talk page, please. On the article's Talk page. General Ization Talk 01:16, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
@Jason Feiner: And not at Talk:MediaWiki. Do you understand what I mean when I say "the article's Talk page"? General Ization Talk 01:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Australian cricket team against Pakistan in the UAE in 2009

I have made significant removals to this article to remove the supposed 6th and 7th ODIs and the 2nd to 5th T20Is. These matches did not exist, even in any planned form. They were added malevolently by User:115.96.197.111 on 3 August 2022. User:203.212.244.144 removed these changes on 5 August, but User:General Ization reverted this removal the same day. User:115.96.128.116 removed the changes on 17 August 2022, but User:Adakiko reverted this removal the same day.

There was no 6th & 7th ODI or 2nd to 5th T20Is. They should never had been added. As evidence of their non−existence I adduce Cricket Archive and Cricinfo.FieldOfWheat (talk) 20:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@FieldOfWheat: Several things do not add up here. First of all, 15.96.197.111 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has made no edits on Wikipedia. Perhaps you meant 115.96.197.111 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Secondly, nearly all, if not all, of the edits by 203.212.244.144 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) were very clearly vandalism, though I suppose it is possible they made a handful of constructive edits before going on a vandalism spree. If so, those constructive edits were probably undone in reverting the corpus of that vandal's edits. I will defer to @Adakiko to explain their reversion, though 115.96.128.116 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) did not provide any explanation for their removals, and unexplained changes removals, especially by IPs, are generally reverted. I have no particular expertise with regard to cricket, so am hoping that Adakiko will have and will be in a position to validate your edits. General Ization Talk 21:01, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
And I see you corrected your comment to refer to 115.96.197.111 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). General Ization Talk 21:04, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Please respond (only) at User talk:Adakiko; there is no need to have the exact same conversation on two different pages simultaneously. Thanks. General Ization Talk 21:08, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

  Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}}  

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Jesus, Antinoos, and historiography

The comment about the lack of sources for Antinoos has a lot to do with our article on Jesus - the point is that sources on both of them are almost totally lacking. But I was expecting a discussion of the historiography of both, not to put a reference to Antinoos into the article. Achar Sva (talk) 20:47, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

If you were attempting to make a point about the article Jesus, your wording was so vague as to make its relevance unclear. Please consider rewording if you repost. General Ization Talk 21:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, General Ization!

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Abishe (talk) 20:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, General Ization!

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Moops T 02:20, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Chronicles Narnia

I don't understand why you reverted my good faith edit, nor your comment on my talk page. I removed spoiler content, and I clearly explained that in my edit information. I viewed the Chronicles page for basic information, and was extremely frustrated that a major spoiler was in the introductory paragraph. I did not want to find out how the series ends, and many people new to the franchise would feel similarly.

I don't understand why you took the aggressive course of reverting my good faith edit, rather than starting a discussion. I'm an experienced editor, the edit clearly was not vandalism. Aggressive reverts serve to discourage participation, and lack courtesy and respect towards other editors.

I have no problem with the article revealing the series conclusion/climax if it's buried deep. My problem is putting such sensitive information right in the first few sentences of the introduction. There's no need for it to be the first thing people read, and therefore having it spoil the series for additional people, the way it was spoiled for me Jozsefs (talk) 04:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

@Jozsefs: Read WP:SPOILER (as my edit summary explained). That you don't like spoilers, and want to spare others from them, is never a valid reason to remove content from articles here. Period. General Ization Talk 05:26, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

question for you

Whilst editing my talk page, at one point you replaced it with another talk page. Why? Stinkypants Simpson (talk) 01:21, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Not interested in discussing this with you, sockpuppet. General Ization Talk 01:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

  Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Maine 🦞 18:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

GI, it might be a good idea to note in your edit summaries when your reverts are related to WP:BLP compliance. Three of the four reverts you were reported for did meet the criteria of WP:3RRNO for removing unsourced or poorly sourced material. —C.Fred (talk) 18:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)