User talk:Ghmyrtle/Archive 25
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Typeface
Golly, this new new typeface styling etc., is getting some used to. I probably have not worded that previous sentence very well, but my eyes are stinging. Maybe it is my age, and inert reluctance to change generally, but I may take some convincing that this is an 'improvement'.
I trust you and yours are well. Bestest,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, I wondered what was going on - good job this page is on my watchlist from last time I posted here otherwise I would continue to think there was something wrong with my new tablet! It's strange for such a "consensual" place any changes to do with WMF seem to come out of the blue without any apparent prior discussion. The new font looks quite dated to me. DeCausa (talk) 06:45, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, but dated is the new post-modern, or something. One good thing about it (in my view) is that there's more room for images in articles - because the text has expanded in size but the images have stayed the same. Take a look at any article you're familiar with and see how much more text there now appears to be between existing images. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 07:13, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm... I don't see any changes at all. Obviously(!) when the Visual Editor thing came in, I did whatever I needed to do as quickly as possible to get rid of it, so I must have changed some setting at that time. Now I get the same enjoyable and fruitful editing experience as I've ever had... (?!) Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:18, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Can we all get tablets with that trendy new input device?? (my keyboard keeps breaking, sob.) Martinevans123 (talk) 07:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
"..what's wrong with the world."
Excuse humanity while your trendy little tablets are breaking, there is HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND TORTURE BEING COVERED UP, and you like to call that "NEUTRAL"? Keep laughing all the way to the bank, trite preppies. You're what's wrong with the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InvisibleRefugee (talk • contribs) 12:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hey thanks for making the DAB
Yeah as I did make the page for Frank Warner, sometimes I try to find other names, other times I forget ha ha. (one DAB page I made a few weeks ago was Robert Bratton (disambiguation), which I forgot about and I just added Bob to it as I can't believe I forgot to put that as well) Again-thanks. Wgolf (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
New(ish) book
Just wondered if you had come across a May 2013 publication titled Blues: A Regional Experience ? The Amazon.com 'reviewers' seem to be waxing lyrical and I suspect, based on a little recent experience, that editors here may use it as a reliable source. I had not heard of it until today - perhaps it's manna for our reference rummages, maybe not. Any thoughts ??
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've already used it. Looks reliable enough to me. Not rushing out to buy it though - a bit pricey! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
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Unprofessional abuse of edit moderating
Please explain how the Robert Johnson edit is fringe material when stating wild unbiased things like Robert Johnson dying of Marfan's isn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.98.123 (talk) 19:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- As I've explained at your talk page, the other material in the article is referenced from reliable published sources - your theory is not, it is your own original research, and hence should not be included. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:04, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
The Ross Sisters
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Because you did so much work on the sisters, I thought I should let you know first what I have discovered. Now that the weather is warmer and drier, I decided to investigate Gunnersbury Cemetery. I rang them and they told me what I was by now expecting to hear, that they do not have Dixie Jewel Ross, but they do have Veda Victoria Henderson. So I hopped on a bus and went there this afternoon to see the inscription with my own eyes. The wording came as quite a shock. (Please see the second attachment on my Ross Sisters page.) Clearly Vicky was known as Dixie in the latter part of her life, which explains the caption on the Getty Images family portrait and also the general confusion about which sister married Dickie Henderson. Would you like to amend your very circumspect wording in the article, or would you prefer me to have a go at it? LynwoodF (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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Gerry Shury
Do you think that this former British songwriter, record producer and principally music arranger, is notable enough for a Wikipedia article ? His name crops up on about 30 Wiki articles, primarily arranging strings for various 1970s pop/soul recordings. He apparently died in a car crash in the late 1970s.[1] I do not know much else, and am away looking at Lords, that's Lord's not Lords, for the next five days. If you are interested that is - but it would get you away from those faded singing sister combos !
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:52, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'll see if I can find out any more about him. I've found a death record for a Gerald Roland Shury who died in 1978 aged 34, which looks as though it could be him, but would need to find a lot more before I write anything. Someone else I need to find out about is Papa Don Schroeder - ring any bells? There is actually a tenuous connection between him and Shury. Have a good trip - hopefully the April showers will stay away! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:55, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Papa Doc yes, Papa Don... no. The showers did largely stay away, but we lost the game. However, sitting in the sunshine on the balcony of the Pavilion at Lord's, well there's worst places you could be.
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This lady (sadly departed) deserves a much more lengthy, and better referenced, biography. Just have a look at the songs she wrote/co-wrote; not least of which "That Ole/Old Devil Called Love", which must be worthy of a decent article itself. I suspect labelling her a singer is a bit of an injustice in itself.
I fully understand that I am leaving stuff to you, but my time scales are tight at the moment. If you do not fancy a go, pass it back to me in mid June (as opposed to mid Doris) ! Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Never heard of her, but leave it with me.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Better? Now for Mr Roberts... Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent. I'd never heard of her, but I 'found' Doris' name via one of those late night/early morning BBC Four documentaries, this time on the 'Great American Songbook'. A caption below Alison Moyet's videoed rendition of "That Ole Devil Called Love" stated something like 'The song was written by the little known American songwriter Doris Fisher'. Anyhow, good work as ever on Doris, her co-writer and that cracking good song. Those Yanks have no idea of their musical heritage - it's a good job you and I (and a few others) are around.
Apologies
SORRY am new to this. apologies! Bob Morritt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.26.3 (talk) 13:41, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
May 2014
Ghmyrtle, admendments have merely been brought in line with the sources given. If you do not like it, please take it to talk, otherwise you will be found to be edit warring Kezzer16 (talk) 19:06, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
- As stated, the amendments are in line with the sources provided. I recommend the Celtic Nations, England section for further information. Kezzer16 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
- That section seems to have just one reference, dealing with Cornwall, so I'm not sure what your point is. Anyway, my main point is that you should have these discussions on the article talk pages, not bilaterally with me. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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I forgot to add this as a thank. Gamera1123 (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC) |
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I seem to remember that this is a lost cause, but can you unearth anything on said Diunna Greenleaf, born in Houston, Texas (probably) ? Parents Ben and Mary Ella Greenleaf. I reckon she was born circa 1960, but Google has nothing of note. You may gather that there is a new article coming about her. At the 2014 Blues Music Awards, Greenleaf won the Koko Taylor Award, so she is notable enough. Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Diunna Fay Greenleaf - Date of Birth: 6 Oct 1957 - Birth County: Harris - Father's Name: Ben Greenleaf - Mother's name: Mary Ella Travis. Source: Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997. Texas: Texas Department of State Health Services: Roll number 1957_0007 Accessed at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=diunna&gsln=greenleaf&sbo=1&uidh=jq5&pcat=34&h=7156065&db=TXbirthindex&indiv=1&ml_rpos=1 Runner-up in Best All-round category at Douglas Macarthur Senior High School in 1974, Treasurer of the school French Club .... Voted Friendliest Girl and Girl Most Likely To Succeed, in the Class of 1976..... Went on to Prairie View A&M University where she studied Mass Communications and was Chaplain in the Senior Class of 1980.... etc. etc.. Easy. Next.....??!! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:28, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Cor, what a star. Many thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:21, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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Tsk. No mention of the fact that my favourite local publician is also so named ? Otherwise I must say, a very good article.
Any chance of your detective skills unearthing birth details for the band members of Trampled Under Foot ? Namely Danielle Schnebelen, Kris Schnebelen, and Nick Schnebelen; siblings all probably born in Kansas City, Missouri, United States. Father definitely named Bill - mother probably not named Ben. Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:25, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- A great listen!!
- Danielle Nicole Schnebelen was born on 20 July... but seems to have gone to some length to remove any mention of the year from the records. Hey ho. Kristopher R Schnebelen, born 2 May 1980. Nicholas R Schnebelen, born 30 September 1978. I don't know where they were born, but they certainly lived in Kansas City. Can't find much else I'm afraid... Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:42, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm. Time someone updated this. Before you ask... the answer's no. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:21, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Tee hee (well, I can't do Sid James' laugh in text). Actually that picture is of Charlie Musselwhite - but the resemblance is really uncanny.
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- (Yes, I know.) Just watched this - fairly amazing if you like that sorta thing. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- I was just saying to my beloved, that the sound playback thingy on my computer packed up earlier this year, and although I can follow film etc., and see graphics showing the sound 'playing', I can not hear anything. Damn annoying - I will have to get my 'computer guru' in at some point. I am bloody hopeless at technical things... and non-technical things... well, most things to be honest.
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sadly, I seem to very rarely listen to music except on my PC and iPod these days. My CDs will end up going the way of vinyl at this rate... clogging up shelf and garage space until I decide to trot down to the charity shop with them. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:29, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Soliciting comment...
Hi! Would you care to review or comment/vote (support/oppose) at my FA nomination for the article New York Dolls (album)? Information on reviewing an FA nomination's criteria is available at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 22:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I know you did a lot of work on the origins of rock and roll a couple of years back. I have expanded (mostly referencing) the above article, but there seems to be a bit of a hole in the second paragraph under the 'Original recording' sub heading. Can you add anything, referencing or otherwise ?
On a completely separate matter, I am more than a little annoyed following my edits [2] [3] to find the two comments from another editor on my talk page. Am I over-reacting ? A second opinion is always valued. Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- If it were me, I'd simply revert him and slap a few templated warnings on his page. I see he's made "over 1K contributions on Wikipedia." He's probably about 12. Rise above it... Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Even worse, he doesnt understand apostrophe's. Treat with withering contempt. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Re the first question.... leave it with me. I may need to look at offline sources (once called "books"). Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hee hee. Got any 'books' left have you ? For a man who has recklessly thrown away his vinyl collection, and is now considering the same fate for his CDs, I'm a bit surprised you've got anything tactile remaining in your abode. I am grimly hanging on to my original vinyl LPs, such as Wishbone Ash and Mad Dogs and Englishmen etc., because errr.... as my dear old dad always said about everything he hoarded (except music, that is) ... "you never know when they might come in useful!"
- Confession... I last played a full CD (of which I have hundreds) about five years ago.
Ta
Two thank you's, somewhat belatedly. Firstly, for stepping in and assisting regarding the Nick Cave photograph. Then for the heads up (I believe that is the current parlance - at least, it appears to be in the US of A) for giving me Preston Shannon to work on. I will have a 'go' at the latter, when I find time. Oooh, I've just found it... it's on my watch. Sorry, but I've been re-reading Spike Milligan's wartime series of books (Adolf Hitler: My Part in His Downfall and the rest) and I think it's catching. Dear old Spike, a real hero of mine.
However, I see you managed to dead Jeffrey Kruger within a week !
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- I thought Shannon looked like one for you. I knew Kruger had died... but I was waiting... and waiting... and waiting for a WP:RS to appear, to add it in the article. Finally, good ol' Spencer Leigh came up trumps. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:56, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Another thanks for enhancing "Roll 'Em Pete". - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:03, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Somewhat later than intended, here is Preston Shannon ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:13, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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Hello I seen your edits on the Welsh people page
Hi im just looking randomly for people to support me on the Cro Magnon page, I have been doing some homework and it seems the Welsh are nearly taking Gold when it comes down to Highest Fitness level per capita world wide, it seems you are part of the Graciles, which are numbered at about 50 Million worldwide, making you distinct from Non Graciles which number about 6 billion, I will be renewing my effort to expand properly the genetics section of the Cro Magnon article, I would be great full of your support when I run into disgruntled Non Graciles as I surely will--Kovkikz (talk) 20:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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Wikilinking
Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.
I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:
- dates
- years
- commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
- common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).
This applies to infoboxes, too.
Thanks, and my best wishes.
Tony (talk) 04:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- WP:DTTR. LOL. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:13, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- OK, short version: be more selective in your wikilinking, to strengthen it. Please see WP:OVERLINK.
I'm surprised it's news to you. Tony (talk) 08:49, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's not news to me. But I'm surprised you think that everyone agrees with you over its interpretation. In that specific case, I just copied and pasted from another article without over-taxing my brain thinking about it. It's definitely R&B with a capital B though. : ) Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- OK, short version: be more selective in your wikilinking, to strengthen it. Please see WP:OVERLINK.
Re:List of deaths in rock and roll
I'll see what I can contribute, man. Thanks for the heads up. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 17:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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A real toe-tapper?
.... and give Tchaikovsky the news! Enjoy. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC) ... and should you wish to purchase: [4] (track 10)
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Nokutela Dube has been nominated for Did You Know
Hello, Ghmyrtle. Nokutela Dube, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated for Did you know consideration to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC) |
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Any chance you can find the time to see if you can unearth a date of birth for this singer/songwriter/record producer ? Born Michael Antony Derrick, in Newmarket, Suffolk, England, circa 1950. Otherwise, the present Wiki article seems to cover everything of note available on t'internet. Cheers,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm... There was a Michael E. Derrick (mother's maiden name Shoults, if that helps) who was born in Newmarket in the first quarter of 1945 - which could be him (the initial could just be a typo). It may be too early - but then again he was writing songs by 1968 - here - so it's possible. Then again, it's suggested (here) that the song was co-written by Derrick, Ife and Edwards, but Derrick/Antony claimed all the royalties! Nothing we can use, I'm afraid. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:23, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Could have been him - 1950 was my guess based on his 'emergence' in the very late 1960s, but obviously 1945 is not that far away. The 'confusion' over royalty payments may have arisen from the fact that Derrick originally wrote songs under the Miki Antony name with J. Vincent Edwards and Kris Ife, before adopting it as his own stage name. Anyhow, it is all a little bit of supposition which does not quite pass muster here. I'll let sleeping dogs lie. Thanks for your efforts as ever. Cheers,
- In a true spirit of endeavour, I tracked down the Bob Monkhouse record that he/they wrote. If and when you get your speaker problem sorted out, my very strong advice is.... just... DON'T.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:33, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hell, no. I thought it might have been a lost rock and roll classic. Seemingly more on a par with Tony Blackburn's musical warblings back in the day then. Thank goodness my speakers are bust... or whatever it is. Been to Arundel and Edgbaston these past ten days, which seemed like a real holiday, what with Yorkshire doing well and the weather being more than kind to us. I've even got a suntan !
- Incidentally, Edwards was born in 1947 and Ife in 1946, so 1945 for Derrick appears more likely. I must have previously missed the fact that Ife died in 2013. It's never ending, this Wiki lark !
- Hmm.. (again). According to Ancestry.com, Christopher J. Ife was born in Aylesbury in the second quarter of 1941, not 1946 (and married in 1968). Electoral registers show a Christopher J. Ife living in Ipswich in 2003 (the only Ife in Ipswich), so that matches. Do you know where the 1946 date came from? I can't see a birth date in any of his obits, only a (possibly assumed) age. There are early photos of him here. In the 1958 photo, he looks more like 17 than 12 !!. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- The 1947 birth year for J. Vincent Edwards looks a little dubious as well, given that (according to this) he started singing with a band in 1962. Possible, but dubious. His first band was apparently in Newcastle. I can't track down a J. Vincent Edwards though. There was a Vincent J. Edwards born in Wolverhampton in 1943, but probably no connection. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Blimey, pop stars who have altered their dates of birth. Who'd have thunk it ! I reckon that Ife's 1946 detail came from here [5], but who can tell. I agree those 1958 photos tend to belie him being only 12 years old ! In the absence of anything truly definitive I think I'll move on.
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- I think I'll add the Kris Ife info to the article talk page, and see whether anyone does a Suarez. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- ... and get banned for four months, you mean ?! I reckon you will be lucky to get a nibble, never mind a bite, but no harm trying.
- Just out of interest, as it was you who added the 1946 date... what was your source? Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:39, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, June 2009 - I remember it so well - probably as mentioned earlier. Seems vaguely reliable as anything else. Are you going to report me for not adding the reference - I could get that four month ban mentioned previously !?!
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- OK - I don't think I've used a 45cat biography before. There don't seem to be many of them. What the site says is: "You can help create biographies for every artist and label on 45cat (not just the "notable" ones unlike some websites!). Every artist and label has a "Create Biography" link - or if the biography already exists, then you can edit it with any improvements or additions you have." So, no auditing, or any need for sources. I think I know what our WP:RS/N would say! But seriously, it looks to me like that bio - with its quite detailed knowledge - was created either by Ife himself, or by a close assistant or fan. Not that I'm blaming you for using it, of course! Actually, looking at it more, it was created by someone in Canada called twerptwo. Maybe I'll ask them! Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Mmmm... interesting. Plus it turns out that there is more than one twerp in Canada. How can you ask them ? Nit wit skype, I suppose. Good luck and keep me informed - anyhow, I now have the page on my watchlist thingy.
- Of course, I could take a massive step back, and ask what it is that really makes Kris Ife 'notable'. Frankly, the Quiet Five (without a Wiki article at present) seem to have more 'notability' - alongside said Miki Antony, J. Vincent Edwards, Star Turn on 45 (Pints) and/or even Richard Barnes. Suck your pipe, liquorice or otherwise, on that one. I love liquorice - back in the day, my mum used to buy me a selection box of said confection each Christmas. Oooooh - I'm easily pleased.
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Message from twerptwo: "I would have accessed most of my information on Kris Ife from various sources on the internet. As you say he is a fairly obscure subject...". So, that's very helpful... Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Yup. So where does that leave us ? Are we simply now awaiting a response to the talk page note you left ? Or have you a cunning plan ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- No-one has any idea where the 1946 date originated, though now it's quoted all over the place, and it has not been questioned by those close to Ife who have edited the article. I think we should add a footnote to the talk page comment - and eventually, if no-one responds there, add a footnote to the article itself. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:01, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, that seems a sound move. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
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