User talk:GorillaWarfare/Archive 22
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Please block Lavito principa
Hi, please block Lavito principa as a sock of Lazy-restless.[1] Also if possible delete Draft:Paradoxical Sajid, Pak-Bangla language, Khandaker Abdullah Jahangir under WP:G5. What happend is Lazy-restless creates account, creates draft from IP, waits for some days and then login and edits to became WP:AUTOCONFIRM, and then move article to main namespace. In this way the user gets around G5. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you!
Quick message to say thanks for your Web3 is Going Just Great website. I read it as religiously as I do my wordles. You are awesome. All the best! Sara — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.189.166.2 (talk) 21:26, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for saying so, and I'm glad you like it! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
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Arbitration
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Regarding the deletion of Do Kwon tweets
Hi GorillaWarfare!
First off, thank you very much for the adjustments you made on the content that I added. I also realized that you deleted some portion on the Do Kwon page regarding his inflammatory tweets. I do understand your logic behind the deletion: that the page should not amount to becoming a gossip page. However, my only concern is that Kwon’s highly inflammatory tweets need to be documented at some level on the page to fully comprehend the crisis that took place.
My logic behind it is that his twitter account was utilized as one of the main outlets for interaction with his investors, therefore what he said on it needs to be considered on a more official ground rather than mere gossip. In fact, his inflammatory remarks were his “official” responses to valid concerns and questions from experts and investors. Hence, I personally think that they should be recorded accordingly. Secondly, my background in public/private financial regulation tells me that The so called “CEO Risk” is an important factor for investors and governance institutions alike. Meaning, the attitude, ethical characteristics, and likability of the CEO or public official of a certain company/institution is one of the most important factors when analyzing a firm/institution or a crisis in general. In other words, my point is that the “CEO Risk” is very much a real thing in the field and Kwon’s tweets are very indicative of it.
Hence, to sum up, I think it is necessary to document his tweets. I am not sayings “all” of his tweets need to be documented, but at least those that related directly to expert and investor concerns and questions. And of course, ones that have been commented and documented on news articles. I just think some justice needs to be done to those who raised valid concerns to Do Kwon and Terraform Labs via their main interactive platform/outlet, and were subsequently abashed to being “poor” and “cockroaches”.
I do not own or have owned any cryptocurrency to be personally engaged in “gossiping” on Kwon. I simply am concerned that important dimensions such as the “CEO Risk” need to be documented to raise valid awareness for everyday investors that do not have much knowledge on financial regulation. Furthermore, I think that the fact that these everyday investors are not only from South Korea, where the firm mainly began its operations, but resulted to a worldwide crisis only further reflects my point that such dimensions of financial risk need to be pertinently documented to mitigate any more crisis of the kind in the future.
I do not have much experience on Wikipedia, as you can see on my account. I do apologize for any customary shortcomings on interacting with you or other users on Wikipedia. I hope to learn and be guided by more experienced people as I venture about here. Thank you very much for reading this and hope to hear your take on this matter soon.
Genuinely, Babyjust Babyjust (talk) 05:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Babyjust: While I understand your argument, Wikipedia articles need to reflect what is described in independent, reliable sources (in proportion to the weight it's given in those sources). That means that we as editors should not be making the decision that Kwon's tweets are noteworthy enough to include based on logic like you present above (such as that they illustrate CEO risk), but rather based on whether other reliable sources have chosen to report about it. I suspect that you could find quality sources that do give weight to those tweets, in which case the inclusion could be justified—but "econovill.com" and Business Insider did not seem sufficient to justify their inclusion. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:39, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
I see. I understand what you mean. Thanks a lot for the heads up, really. I will try to look for more reliable and independent sources in the future. Thanks again! Babyjust (talk) 03:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
@GorillaWarfare: Hi, just wanted to confirm something about the newly split page of Terra.
I found that the source below was left out on the new page and was wondering whether it was because it was considered an unreliable source?:
I did rewrite the source in the new format (using the original Korean title) that you laid out. The following is the rewritten source:
While I do understand that my translations are not the most pitch-perfect ones, I think they still very close to the original meaning. Hence, I just wanted to get confirmation whether the reason of its deletion is its source? Thanks! Babyjust (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Ah, the year written needs to be “2022”, not “2021” on the second version of the source. Sorry. Babyjust (talk) 02:17, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Babyjust: Was it previously included? I don't recall removing it, but if you link me to a revision that contained it I might be able give more context. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:52, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Son, Suk-woo (16 May 2022). "Analysis of the (Korean) K-Coins Luna and Terra Crisis and Its Impact on Cryptocurrency". SBS. Archived from the original on 16 May 2022. Retrieved 16 May 2022.
- ^ Son, Seok-woo (16 May 2021). "[이슈분석] 'K-코인' 루나·테라 사태에 가상자산 '쇼크'…영향은?" [[Issue Analysis] Aftermaths of the ‘K-Coin’, Luna and Terra Crisis and the Cryptocurrency’Shock’]. Seoul Broadcasting System (in Korean). Archived from the original on 18 May 2022. Retrieved 18 May 2022.
@GorillaWarfare:: I think it’s this revision where the reference was lost (I’m not sure if this is the customary way of linking old revisions):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terra_(blockchain)&oldid=1088403237 Babyjust (talk) 02:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Babyjust: Oh, I see what happened. There was an issue with the ref name, which was
<ref name=""SBSbizart220516"">(note the double quotation marks). When I edited the page with the visual editor it looks like it didn't know how to handle the broken wikitext. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
@GorillaWarfare: I see. I think it’s because of the quotation marks I inserted, not knowing that Wikipedia automatically inserts quotation marks for titles. Will refrain from doing so in future (by the way, I had not the slightest idea you were such an expert guru on Web3 and cryptocurrency. Read about your work yesterday on HBR, truly appreciate the work you’re doing). Babyjust (talk) 03:13, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Your blog
Hello Molly,
I read about you in the Washington Post, and then I read your blog. Excellent work! Cullen328 (talk) 18:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Huh, didn't know you were behind web3isgoinggreat, I think my CS prof last semester mentioned the website (while ranting about crypto and how scams are so common that he won't get out of bed for less than a 10 million dollar loss) :) Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Were you lucky enough to have Prof Weaver? GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed! I took a great computer security class with him. Galobtter (pingó mió) 23:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I bet it was! He's great. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed! I took a great computer security class with him. Galobtter (pingó mió) 23:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Were you lucky enough to have Prof Weaver? GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Huh, didn't know you were behind web3isgoinggreat, I think my CS prof last semester mentioned the website (while ranting about crypto and how scams are so common that he won't get out of bed for less than a 10 million dollar loss) :) Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is enough content in the WaPo article for another article. :) There are now multiple, solid, reliable sources that cover your life as a public figure but especially given your involvement with the Wikipedia community, I wanted to reach out as a courtesy to ask if you had any considerations we should keep in mind as we write the article. And if there is anything that we (or sources) get wrong, I hope you'll let us know. Congratulations on the WaPo article! czar 17:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Czar: Thanks for the heads up! No considerations that come to mind. One minor error I noticed: I began editing Wikipedia in 2006 when I was 13 (see [2]—I used that account for a year before losing the password and creating this one). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- That should be easy to fix. Thank you! czar 03:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Czar: Thanks for the heads up! No considerations that come to mind. One minor error I noticed: I began editing Wikipedia in 2006 when I was 13 (see [2]—I used that account for a year before losing the password and creating this one). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats on all the coverage and now the Wikipedia entry! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- As a big fan of your blog, congrats on all the excellent coverage! Very exciting! DocFreeman24 (talk) 22:52, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nice article. Becoming famous is a great way to close the gender gap :). Femke (talk) 18:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats on the transition from editor to reliable source! :) Keep up the good work. MastCell Talk 03:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Very pleased to read about your work. As far as I know, despite many years of VC dollars and hype, not one blockchain implementation has had a notable effect on any industry. soibangla (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
June events from Women in Red
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Oh my God
You're famous! Congratulations on meeting WP:GNG. Scorpions13256 (talk) 16:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
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Help with articles related to cryptocurrencies
As per the article about you in The Washington Post from this past month, let me know if you need or want help with any articles related to cryptocurrencies. I also tend to be skeptical about their introduction into the financial system. I recently expanded the section of the Gary Gensler article to include summaries of news items about changes to cryptocurrency regulation in the United States, and I added some news items about to the Cryptocurrency bubble article a few years ago. I'm not a computer scientist, but I did complete an introductory computer programming course in college, as well as the calculus sequence, an introductory macroeconomics course, and an intermediate microeconomics course. If nothing else, I can at least help you keep track of things reported in the news and can try to help read and summarize other information (e.g. books, academic articles) you come across to save you time. I also live in Massachusetts. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 21:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate that! I haven't had as much time as I might like for them, unfortunately, but they need all the help they can get. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, again! Not sure if you heard about this, but I've now updated the Gary Gensler article with a summary about it. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- FYI: I've now separated the content about cryptocurrencies on the Gary Gensler article into a separate subsection and copied much of the content into the Cryptocurrency section of the Economic policy of the Joe Biden administration article. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 13:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, again! Not sure if you heard about this, but I've now updated the Gary Gensler article with a summary about it. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Attorney General of New York Warns Crypto Investors
You're probably on top of this, but just in case. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:38, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I was very glad to see it! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats on the new bio. You're awesome. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:34, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- NY Mayor appears suddenly silent on his Crypto capital of the world thing. SPECIFICO talk 20:33, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Protect Our Future PAC
Hi there, I recently created a draft for Protect Our Future, a super PAC funded by Sam Bankman-Fried that has been quite active this primary season and will likely be even more active this fall and during the 2024 election. Any help would be really wonderful! Best, Thriley (talk) 19:19, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Ashley Gjøvik for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashley Gjøvik until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sebastien1118 (talk) 09:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Just on the odd chance you haven't seen these already, you may unfortunately be interested in Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Ban_evasion, and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SquareInARoundHole. Just when I had the Square pegged (so to speak) as a well meaning technology firm labor activist... even contributed a bit to the cause... --GRuban (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- That is surprising. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Protection conflict
Hi GW, it looks like we edit conflicted on Tom Cotton. I reinstated your protection, sorry about that. -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- No worries, feel free to restore the longer protection if you think it's needed. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:16, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Cimbrian War
What do you think is "unconstructive" in my edit?. A year ago I made a stable version of this article, I return it after some OR nationalist's POV edits. 109.254.254.152 (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lack of a citation for [3], complete change of meaning with the "or" and "vs" changes, and grammar errors with the "might" change in [4]. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with the grammatical error. But the quote could remain in place until the sources were inserted there (still need to look for a translation). Also wording "vs" is more suitable in my opinion. Mediafile is also non-neutral and was posted by without consensus. ---109.254.254.152 (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Please include sources alongside new claims, rather than waiting to add them later on. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with the grammatical error. But the quote could remain in place until the sources were inserted there (still need to look for a translation). Also wording "vs" is more suitable in my opinion. Mediafile is also non-neutral and was posted by without consensus. ---109.254.254.152 (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red in July 2022
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Edit Request Tool changes
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Request for a second set of eyes
Do you think you'd be able to quickly glance over what's present in User:ProfGray's sandbox? It's an article-in-progress on trans genocide, which seems like it may be something in your wheelhouse. I've got some of my own prose I'm working on separately since it seems like Gray is planning on pushing this to the article space fairly soon, but any thoughts you have on notability here would be super helpful - I don't have a fantastic track record at discerning that. If not, no worries! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 18:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think notability is pretty clear from specific use of the term in published law journal articles, other scholarly works, two tertiary works (encyclopedias), and various news sources, as cited. ProfGray (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- to clarify or correct myself -- the reliable sources above either mention the term in a meaningful way or treat it as a subject matter, which enable it to satisfy notability criteria ProfGray (talk) 18:41, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Jim Chanos on crypto
Excellent work you have been doing on your Web3 site regarding cryptos. Have you ever followed Jim Chanos (one of America's most famous short sellers and exposer of many famous Wall St ponzi schemes, including Enron)? He tweets under the name "Diogenes @WallStCynic" [5], and often covers the crypto space. 78.18.245.153 (talk) 10:27, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- I have and I do! I also liked his episode on Crypto Critics' Corner ("Crypto, Coinbase, and Contagion"). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
On Point
I heard your interview today on On Point. Congrats, and I appreciate your criticism of crypto. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).
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Technical news
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Something to entertain you
Knowing your interests, I thought you might like to see this. Some of the sources are, shall we say interesting? Nick Moyes (talk) 16:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations
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Congratulations on being promoted to a good article status.  —andrybak (talk) 20:59, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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Fifteenth anniversary on Wikipedia!
 | Happy First Edit Day! Hi GorillaWarfare! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy 15th anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! Chris Troutman (talk) 13:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |  |
Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society
Dear GorillaWarfare/Archive 22,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more.
Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 13:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
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Hey, GorillaWarfare. Just stopping by to wish you a Happy Wiki-Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop and My Little Pony Fan) 19:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Women in Red August 2022
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A barnstar for you!
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| Congratulations on your notability in reliable sources and your great work on Wikipedia. Andrevan@ 23:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
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- An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
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- The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
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Arbitration
- The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.
Miscellaneous
- You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
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Adminship anniversary
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Happy Adminship Anniversary!
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Deletion review for Lovejoy (band)
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Women in Red in September 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022
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- A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
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- The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
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Arbitration
- An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
- The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.
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Coordinated abuse of WP:NOTE process
Talk:Liz_Fong-Jones -- having moved on from vandalising the page about me, there's now what appears to be a campaign by anon & infrequent contributors to out of the blue propose deletion under WP:NOTE. Raising for your awareness as I know you work on extremism topics and care about the issue, and I'm obviously conflict of interested. Lizthegrey (talk) 00:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ugh. Thanks for the heads up, I've watchlisted it. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:28, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've also watchlisted, and will keep an eye out for any of these sorts of issues :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:32, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Not sure of the proper tags to add (notability? npov?) but this article looks problematic to me. Funcrunch (talk) 05:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've just nominated it for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helen and Mike Webberley) given the BLP concerns. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Misleading edit on Stephen Bonnell
There is a debated allegation about a living person (Stephen Bonnell) that was added and subsequently removed. Instead of bringing this allegation to the talk page or undoing its deletion with a response, you added the allegation in as a new edit and claimed it was made to "Avoid passive voice". I really hope this was some weird bug where you started to edit the section of text, and then maybe it was deleted and by the time you submitted the edit, it was saved in a weird way... I don't know, but as it looks, it appears malicious, so please consider this a warning that doing this again would lead me to report to administrators for vandalism. Grenvilledodge (talk) 15:50, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss the content concerns at Talk:Destiny (streamer)#Keffals edit war. I'm glad you at least recognize what happened with the edit conflict due to rapid edits to the page—I clicked save after resolving the conflict without fixing the summary, which can't be edited after the fact. You might check out WP:AGF rather than leaping to "maliciously, purposefully misleading" and threats to report vandalism—it's a pretty common issue with MediaWiki software. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:55, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Grenvilledodge: Perhaps you don't realize this, but GorillaWarfare is an admin herself and has been a Wikipedia editor for over 15 years. That doesn't mean she's infallible, of course, but do assume good faith, as she advises. Funcrunch (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Peter Eckersley (computer scientist)
I'm not proficient in Wikipedia markup, so forgive me for bad formatting.
In https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Eckersley_(computer_scientist)&diff=next&oldid=1108515044 you removed the cause of death.
The cause of death is clear from this tweet: https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/1565930964252905473
I know that in general Wikipedia dislikes tweets as information sources, but another information source in the article (https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/peter-eckersley-may-his-memory-be-a-blessing/183854) specifically referred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Zhu (who is https://twitter.com/bcrypt) as information source as they are close to Peter Eckersley.
What would be a good way to still get the cause of death included?
(Note I'm almost through my energy budget for today, see https://twitter.com/jpluimers, so I might not respond quickly). Jpluimers (talk) 12:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Given that he passed so recently I am hoping that a proper obituary will be published soon that includes that detail. While I personally agree that Yan is a trustworthy source on this, a tweet can't really be used as a proper source (and the forum post is pushing it also, even though Schoen is also pretty clearly trustworthy on this subject). See WP:SPS. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 13:57, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks!
- Are you going to try to keep an eye on an obituary? Jpluimers (talk) 14:49, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I set up a Google alert for it so I don't forget. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Jpluimers (talk) 09:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I set up a Google alert for it so I don't forget. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
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Kiwi Farms
Would it not make more sense to try and get their URL globally banned instead of just English Wikipedia? Trade (talk) 15:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- You could suggest it at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#Proposed additions, but my guess is it'll end up being a wiki-by-wiki decision. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:27, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Does linking to Kiwi Farm violate global policy or does it not? People can't seem to decide --Trade (talk) 23:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think it does; others apparently do not. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Does linking to Kiwi Farm violate global policy or does it not? People can't seem to decide --Trade (talk) 23:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
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Have a nice day/night
Just felt like wishing you a good day/night! Also that Dr. Strangelove meme is hilarious Stephanie921 (talk) 22:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:01, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Question about policy
Hello,
If a user is topic-banned but I see them still editing in the area they're banned from, pls can u tell me where I can report this vio? I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything Stephanie921 (talk) 18:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Stephanie921: If the topic ban was imposed via an Arbitration Committee decision or by an administrator as a part of the discretionary sanctions regime, violations can be reported at WP:AE. Otherwise it should probably go to WP:AN. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:17, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome, ty! Stephanie921 (talk) 19:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Kiwi Farms and that artist
Hey. There's a couple of editors that in the current flurry of activities at Talk:Kiwi Farms have necroed a discussion from May 2022 to try and mention a certain artist in the article. I've tried to remove a pseudo RfC that seems to have been opened because one of the editors felt as though The discussion didn't seem to be going anywhere
, despite it deferring to the longstanding consensus to exclude that person's name, however that has been reverted. Given your familiarity with the topic, and the many past discussions, is there any chance you could look at the discussion and the pseudo RfC if you have a moment please? Sideswipe9th (talk) 04:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Sideswipe9th: Looks like it's already been handled by a different editor. I'm probably not the best person to handle more administrative things to do with that page, like whether RfCs are legitimate or need to be removed, since I'm also involved with editing the content. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- No worries. I realise now I wasn't clear on this, I really need to stop commenting at 5am, I wasn't actually asking for you to intervene with your admin hat on. I was hoping that with your familiarity with the past discussions on this topic, you'd be able to direct others to the relevant ones, similar to your reply in this discussion. Unfortunately two of the links in your August 2021 comment are broken, I've found one of the threads at AN, but I couldn't find the "Recent Events" discussion in the KF talk archive and unfortunately it seems to have a relative link to that archive. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:42, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Just updated those links so they can be referred to more reliably. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- No worries. I realise now I wasn't clear on this, I really need to stop commenting at 5am, I wasn't actually asking for you to intervene with your admin hat on. I was hoping that with your familiarity with the past discussions on this topic, you'd be able to direct others to the relevant ones, similar to your reply in this discussion. Unfortunately two of the links in your August 2021 comment are broken, I've found one of the threads at AN, but I couldn't find the "Recent Events" discussion in the KF talk archive and unfortunately it seems to have a relative link to that archive. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:42, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Wording change?
Hi! I saw you changed the wording of my edit "harassment internet forum" to "harassment forum". I just want to know why, is there some policy on this that I missed? Your edit summary "sp" didn't give me anything useful, WP:SP doesn't seem to be what you're referring to. Thanks in advance! Holzklöppel (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Holzklöppel: Sorry for the confusing summary, that's short for "spelling" and was in reference to me fixing the spelling of "harassment". I mostly just removed "internet" because it's pretty clear from the context of the sentence that we're talking about internet forums, so it's not really necessary. I don't feel that strongly about it, though. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:33, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Holzklöppel (talk) 16:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Just saying hi
I've kinda randomly got here through someone called Sergecross's talk page after seeing that he was involved in editing List of music considered the worst. Someone on his talkpage mentioned in an argument someone was having that you were one of the editors they admired, so I clicked through - and then I liked your face! Decided I liked you even more when I saw the pic from Strangelove. And then it took me a while to see the "queer" tag in the box after seeing your reference to outing in your brief bio. Ugh. Articles on incels and all that stuff - rather you than me! I prefer to keep away from all that toxic masculinity bs - but I guess someone has to fight back against that bullshit. --PaulHammond (talk) 11:06, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- is this a parody or copypasta? RRorg (talk) 21:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- @PaulHammond:
"Articles on incels and all that stuff - rather you than me! I prefer to keep away from all that toxic masculinity bs - but I guess someone has to fight back against that bullshit"
bro are you being serious? 💀 — Python Drink (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)- The Gorilla is a lot friendlier than some of the people stalking her talk page. --GRuban (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @GRuban: what did you mean? — Python Drink (talk) 23:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- The Gorilla is a lot friendlier than some of the people stalking her talk page. --GRuban (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Cyber Anakin § A mountain out of molehill?
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Question about copyright violation
Primefac has recently deleted about 23 of my blockquotes on the grounds of copyright violation. See for example the "View History" sections of Wanderlust: The Amazing Ida Pfeiffer, the First Female Tourist. In view of Wikiquote, how can Primefac's deletions be justified in terms of copyright violation? Furthermore, I think that instead of the blockquote being deleted, the entire article should have been moved to draftspace. Suslindisambiguator (talk)
Help With Accountability Software Page
Hi @GorillaWarfare! A year ago we had robust discussions on The Babylon Bee page and I thought you were very fair to both sides. I was wondering if you could help regarding the Wikipedia page on Accountability Software. It was completely rewritten a few days ago in an alarming way. I've been trying to have a reasonable discussion with two editors but they routinely ignore valid points of discussion and revert every change I make.
They've fundamentally redefined what the software does in an inaccurate way, based on a new article that describes abuse of the software. For example, the equivalent on Babylon Bee would be to start with "The Babylon Bee is a misinformation site masquerading as a satire site", as opposed to defining it accurately and then including discussion around the misinformation questions. Do you have any bandwidth to assist? Keithgreenfan (talk) 12:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- One follow up in case you see this. We now have a mediator on a dispute page so hopefully that will help. Would still love your take (if that works in this process) as I think you’d be fair to them and us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithgreenfan (talk • contribs) 14:41, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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It filled in a lot of gaps in my understanding (I am trying to understand the current board fundraising and Wikienterprize deafness through historical issues) Have some virtual falafel from Melbourne Australia (Double Chilli) :-) Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 11:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC) |
Incel Talk Edits
Proposed a method of making the page easier to find for people who don't know the term "incel". Proposed a picture of known Incel Elliott Roger with the bowlcut hairstyle he was last seen with after he shot a church full of people. Proposed that the page remain balanced with a variety of opinions, instead of the article remaining overly sympathetic of the far-right terrorist cis heteronormative white males described by the article.
In what way were these disruptive? 88.106.227.59 (talk) 14:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
White Nationalist/Nationalism categories
Hello, Molly,
You seem to work with controversial content and I hope that you, or a talk page stalker, can help out here. The immediate issue is that we have a bunch of country-specific White Nationalist/Nationalism categories that have been emptied and are sitting in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. Often when I see a fairly new editor do this, I revert some of their edits but I'm finding that the borderlines between Nationalist, White Nationalist, White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi can be a bit blurry (Neo-Nazi is the most clearly defined). I think some individuals that got put in "White Nationalist" categories are white and nationalist and have regressive views on race but maybe do not identify themselves as a White Nationalist and so that is why they were removed from these categories. There are also White Nationalism categories by country but I believe they mostly contained articles about the White Nationalists so when those categories got emptied, the White Nationalism ones became empty as well. Liz Read! Talk! 21:48, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Are you familiar with this subject and can help me see if the coming deletion of these categories will help end a redundancy or be a loss to the project? Thanks for any insight you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 21:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Upper Echelon Gamers: from GamerGate cringe to crypto force for good
So, I've been enjoying this guy's content on YouTube for years now, mostly game reviews, but also the occasional YT drama commentary or crypto exposé. But much of his early content (many years ago), I recently discovered, was pure GamerGate cringe, which I never picked up on otherwise. In the last year, though, he's shifted focus from gaming to crypto/cybercrime investigations.
And a few weeks ago, to highlight that shift, he even removed the Gamers part in his channel name to just Upper Echelon. Also a few weeks ago, he mentioned being in frequent communication with an FBI agent from the Cybercrime Division (whose full name / title he reveals, by permission I presume) to aid with evidence leading to the prosecution of crypto and other cybercriminals.
The mortal of the story: sometime, people grow up. So keep an eye out for his stuff, if you haven't already, because it's good stuff. I watched the video he released earlier today about the crimes (and general evil) of Alex and Krissy Mashinsky vis-à-vis the Celsius Network, which is definitely worth a watch: Machinations of the Mashinskys. El_C 20:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, seems like this expired roughly two years ago. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:06, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Maybe, you can flesh some decency into our article, since you have an interest around these topics? The current version is horrible. Ty, TrangaBellam (talk) 16:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Great article
Molly White and the Crypto Skeptics. Nice. Cullen328 (talk) 21:33, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Just saw this article as well. Nice job! I think it's going to be mentioned in the upcoming Signpost issue. Liz Read! Talk! 21:56, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Redirect Change Request (CENSORED.TV)
Notice of redirect discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion
I'm reaching out as I see that you created the redirect for CENSORED.TV, with the target being Gavin McInnes (thank you very much for that). I wanted to inform you that I created a Wiki for CENSORED.TV, at Censored.TV. I went ahead and edited the redirect to match the changes, but I'm unsure as to how to eliminate the extra step. This is my first redirect edit, so I may have missed a step or two. If I have, I apologize and ask that you can either do it, or show me what to do. I was able post it in the redirect forum, but I feel like that may have been an unnecessary step that's reserved for non-editors.
Thanks! Alan C. Machiavellian Gaddafi (talk) 01:24, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hello GorillaWarfare: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor Talk 18:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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From my family to yours: Merry Christmas! TheSandDoctor Talk 18:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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Use this for pages about fringe people/groups/theories. 137a (talk • edits) 14:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @137a: I doubt the utility of this as an editnotice. It's not nearly direct enough and most editors will likely ignore it. Ones that more directly address issues like {{Nazism is not left wing editnotice}} or {{Railfan editnotice}} (less controversial example) tend to work better. This one is much more generic and just leads to banner blindness. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- So what changes would you suggest to the template? Would you like a different header or a stronger wording at the start? Or maybe a complete rework? 137a (talk • edits) 13:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- What particular problem are you intending to solve with this editnotice (and do you have examples of pages where you'd like to use it)? Elli (talk | contribs) 17:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- This template is meant for fringe topics in general (people, groups, theories), and used both as an editnotice and a talk page notice. It would warn against trying to give false balance to some subjects. Maybe it needs stronger and more noticable wording? 137a (talk • edits) 13:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- There is no need for an editnotice on most articles about fringe topics. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have to disagree. On any topic that isn't completely obscure, there is bound to be a bunch of people defending it, sometimes even by somewhat experienced users (GorillaWarfare would probably know what I'm talking about). Will the editnotice completely solve the problem? No. But I expect that with some changes we can get the message across to people who maybe can end up being productive contributors on other topics. We need to get the message across about what NPOV means. 137a (talk • edits) 15:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- There is no need for an editnotice on most articles about fringe topics. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- This template is meant for fringe topics in general (people, groups, theories), and used both as an editnotice and a talk page notice. It would warn against trying to give false balance to some subjects. Maybe it needs stronger and more noticable wording? 137a (talk • edits) 13:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- What particular problem are you intending to solve with this editnotice (and do you have examples of pages where you'd like to use it)? Elli (talk | contribs) 17:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- So what changes would you suggest to the template? Would you like a different header or a stronger wording at the start? Or maybe a complete rework? 137a (talk • edits) 13:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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You now have a goat. Your rev-delling was exemplary! I greatly appreciate your choice of screenshot by the way; amazing film 😊
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- Why thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:32, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Bobby Hull edit
I made an edit to his page that you removed partly because of a rule against edits towards living people, which he’s not he died today and it was quoted from a Moscow Times article that I referenced from 1998. I don’t understand why you removed it when neither rule was violated. Thank you. 2600:4040:7EF4:CF00:A05B:5FFC:DB0E:2323 (talk) 03:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- WP:BLP also applies to people who are recently deceased (see WP:BDP). It's not sufficient to simply say "in a Moscow Times article", you need to provide a specific citation—and preferably not just the citation to the article with the quote, but to a secondary source that establishes the quote is noteworthy in the context of Hull's life. See WP:CITE if you need help citing sources. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
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My edit about Canadian culture
Hi, you just removed this edit of mine because you claim it wasn't "constructive". I realize now that it was maybe a bit rude to call Americans and Canadians "ignorant", but I think it still deserves a mention that Canada and the United States are the two most culturally identical countries in the world. How should I phrase that in a "constructive" way? 2.104.86.19 (talk) 00:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Find a reliable source presenting this viewpoint, and perhaps review WP:NPOV to familiarize yourself with how to properly reflect statements of opinion. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:35, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
do you have a bias?
do editors have any bias? 71.223.136.6 (talk) 07:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Every human being has biases. I'm not really sure what you're asking here. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:56, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
HQ (video game)
I'm not sure what is going on here. There appear to be at least three different editors of HQ and who appear to be former employees or something. They appear to be coordinating editing (see Talk:HQ (video game)#HQ Trivia Player, and Website Takeover) and are replacing content with questionable sources. Some appear to be screen shots that they have been uploaded themselves. Suggestions? I'm overwhelmed here.
- Glitch: The Rise and Fall of HQ Trivia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) - maybe related to this upcoming show?
Thanks Adakiko (talk) 06:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Heya. Looks like this is over now—I had logged off and so am only just seeing it. In the future I'd recommend bringing issues like this to WP:AIV or WP:ANEW for a faster reply. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- You missed all the action! It escalated and went to wp:ANI#Nonsense_at_HQ_(video_game) for a knock-down, drag-out. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 03:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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Trabant edit rejected
Moved to Talk:Trabant § Trabant edit rejectedDana Rivers edit
The addition of "mass murderer" to Dana Rivers' article and the change from "transgender advocate" to "transgender rights activist" was an edit by an account named "Actually, TWAM". Does reverting that also need to go through the talk page? Lekale35 (talk) 01:20, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- If you have issues with those changes, feel free to raise them on the talk page. However, it was a fairly insignificant edit in terms of the changes that remained — the article already described her as being accused of multiple murders, and as a "transgender advocate", so the changes really were to update that she'd been convicted (which is sourced) and replace "advocate" with a synonym. There were certainly other issues with that edit, which were reasonably reverted. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- So, at what point exactly can I edit the article to make those changes? Lekale35 (talk) 02:00, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Join the conversation on the talk page and come to a consensus for a change. See Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle#Discuss. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No response. What would you suggest? Lekale35 (talk) 23:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- A little patience. Not everyone logs on daily. I've also pinged the folks involved in the discussion to date so they're aware it's coming up again: [6]. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:18, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- No response. What would you suggest? Lekale35 (talk) 23:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Join the conversation on the talk page and come to a consensus for a change. See Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle#Discuss. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- So, at what point exactly can I edit the article to make those changes? Lekale35 (talk) 02:00, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
LWO edit
I just noticed you reverted my edit on Latino World Order. I have added the years_active parameters. 76.69.130.150 (talk) 02:07, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Any change needs a reliable source to verify it. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Here's your 🥤 76.69.130.150 (talk) 02:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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