Hans Footballscout2023

Re: Transfermarkt

What you're missing here is that Transfermarkt's stats database is user-edited. Anyone with account an account on the site can submit changes. This has led to problems in the past with incorrect information that likely originated on Wikipedia, making it's on to Transfermarkt. As such, it is considered a self-published and there unreliable source. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Not true, your information is not accurate. Not anyone has the option to edit something on transfermarkt. I agree that you can make a suggestion but still a supervisor has to accept your edit and check with the sources. Nowadays a lot of scouting is dependent of Data of TransferMarkt and they are aware of that so they have enough professionals en people who review it. It is not self-published at all. If you think so you can go ahead and try to edit something, but trust me you can't change anything without approval and enough sources after the review. Hans Footballscout2023 (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik Hans Footballscout2023 (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik Correction proposals are send to our data administrators via a form. It is always a good idea to include a short note on where you have your information from in the field "Notes to data admin". Hans Footballscout2023 (talk) 22:05, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Per the site's own documentation, most of the administrators mentioned in that quote are also volunteer contributors, not Transfermarkt staff. The review process does not change the site's character as a self-published source. Also take note that in brief period you've been active here, there are already four experienced editors push back on your use of Transfermarkt as a source. It's unsuitability as a source is a settled question. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

With al due respect but your research is lacking mate. I Have been working in the football scouting for over 20 years. Transfermarkt is definitely not a self-published source. You can make a request with the suggestion if you would like to edit or add something, but you'll never be able to make any changes yourself. So every time you would like to change a profile or create one the datascout/analyst will review it and check their sources.It is funny how you say that it not reliable because it is user-edited. However as I explained to you it is not user-edited, they have data-analysts and moderators for that.

Footballclubs use the data of Transfermarkt all the time for scouting, but also for their financial annual statements if you did not know that. It became a big business in the last couple years and it seems like all of you missed that part of their development. If you were in the football industry you would understand the significance of Transfermarkt in comparison with other weak sources like Soccerway (that's a copy paste).

Please make sure you do proper research regarding Transfermarkt, given your reply it still seems you don't know how the process works over there and what the importance for the football industry is.

Wikipedia is not reliable. Seems to have a worse character. On wikipedia it is way more easy to create an article and publish it. On transfermarkt it doesn't work like that. Nothing will be published or changed untill the data-analysts and moderators did their due-dilligence. Hopefully you learned something from my explanation and the research. So far your claims are false and you didn't do your homework.

All the best. Hans Footballscout2023 (talk) 13:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Patrick Loa Loa

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February 2023

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or change other editors' legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wael Romdhane. See this edit, which was unacceptable. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@Spiderone he deleted mine too... So you should probably warn him first Hans Footballscout2023 (talk) 15:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Just to restore my edit, submitted earlier than yours, from your vandalism. After restoring my edit, I immediately checked to see if I caused any damage while restoring my edit and corrected that as well! gidonb (talk) 23:11, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Jaouhar Ben Hassen

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 06:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)