Henry Kaspar

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1954 FIFA World Cup Final

Hi Henry, thanks for getting in touch. I would first say that your initial action should not have been to simply re-add the YouTube sources. For one thing, that video broadcast is copyrighted and should not be linked to (see WP:YOUTUBE). Secondly, even though you're using YouTube to verify simple events rather than to support an analysis of the events, there must be other sources available to support your account of the game. It's not up to us to watch a game and decide what events were important, we should be using reliable secondary sources for that. – PeeJay 15:46, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Yep, books that provide a secondary analysis of the game would be perfect, but a full video of the game would not. – PeeJay 16:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Even a short video would probably be subject to copyright. I don't know who holds the rights for the 1954 World Cup, but I would imagine FIFA holds the rights and so taking down links to the video would be prudent. As a free encyclopaedia, Wikipedia can't afford to get caught up in a legal battle with FIFA! – PeeJay 17:31, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

If the clip is on FIFA's own website, that would avoid the copyright issue, but it would still be a primary source, so according to WP:PRIMARY, it should be used sparingly. – PeeJay 20:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

By the way, putting the time of an incident in brackets after the description isn't really very good prose. Any chance you could work that into the text somehow? – PeeJay 20:26, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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1954 FIFA World Cup Final

Hello! I have manually reverted your latest edits as they contradicted WP:OR. Per WP:EW, the removal of adequately sourced content should first be discussed on the talk page to avoid edit warring. Happy editing! – Zsovar3 (talk) 14:23, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. You have a creative way of intepreting wikipedia policies ;-) I opened a discussion on the talk page to ensure consistency with WP:ROC, WP:TOPIC or WP:TOOMUCH. Let's discuss there - it should be possible to find consensus. ~~~~ Henry Kaspar (talk) 18:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)