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Hello, my name is Yannick, and my main account is on fr.wikipedia.
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More snakes
editHi Yannick! Would you perhaps have a moment to support me in my efforts to fix up the Boidae section? No real work; just a mention of your support for moving a few articles there to their scientific names. After that, I'll take care of the rest. It only involves six articles: Boa, Anaconda, Calabar Python, Puerto Rican Boa, Rosy boa, and Rubber Boa. No big fight; just want to do things by the book. If we lose, then we'll just have to work around it somehow, but with your support I'm sure that won't be necessary. Cheers, --Jwinius (talk) 12:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Yannick. The Boa article now looks certain to be moved to Boidae with something like 4-1 in favor. The other articles I've mentioned above are still not certain, most still being a 1-1 statemate, so that's where I need the most help. Cheers, --Jwinius (talk) 11:28, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Yannick, You know, if you were just vote on one more of those pages, then at the moment this would be the place where I could use your vote the most. Thanks! --Jwinius (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your support on the name changes!
- Regarding the TIGR Reptile Database, I used to use it as a taxonomic reference, but after a while I encountered a number of inconsistencies that caused me to lose confidence in it. Dr. Peter Uetz is a really nice fellow, but unfortunately he's not a taxonomist. In addition, his consulting expert, Dr. Wolfgang Wüster, is just one man, and no matter how respectable he is, in my view this means that the TIGR Reptile Database (previously known as the EMBL Reptile Database) is more a reflection of his opinions than of a consensus within the herpetological community.
- Several years ago, we had a discussion about general taxonomy at WP:AAR and this was what Dfcisneros, our only resident herpetologist (albeit a frog specialist), had to say about it:
- "... In terms of reptiles... McDiarmid et al. 1999 is the best available sources for reptile taxonomy... however, now there are many new publications that have changed the classification of some groups. The ITIS database is much more updated, and it must be used together with McDiarmid et al. 1999. The EMBL is useful, but it is not complete, and sometimes it does not cite all sources. ..."
- ITIS is based on the continuing work of Dr. Roy McDiarmid, who is working hard to produce Snake Species of the World: A Taxonomic and Geographic Reference, vol. 2. Many experts -- Wolfgang Wüster among them -- contributed to vol. 1, so this has to be a better reflection of general consensus.
- There is another issue too: correcting mistakes. For instance, when I discovered a few mistakes in the EMBL database and mentioned these to Dr. Uetz, he confirmed but never corrected them. On the other hand, I also discovered a fair number of mistakes and omissions in the ITIS database, but these have now all been corrected (although it took almost a year).
- There are more problems with Uetz's database. For example, with the geographic range data, if his source would say "From country A to E", he lists "Countries A, B, C, D and E" in the database; an assumption that may not always be correct. Also, many of the the common names listed in the database come directly from Frank & Ramus' infamous book, A Complete Guide to Scientific and Common Names of Reptiles and Amphibians of the World; it's a well-known fact that F&R just made up lots of those names.
- Almost two years after switching to ITIS, I'm still very happy with the decision. In WP articles, I still create links to matching or equivalent TIGR Reptile Database entries whenever possible, sometimes even citing them, but I use them strictly as a secondary source. --Jwinius (talk) 23:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
(Conversation continued on my talk page). --Jwinius (talk) 10:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Puerto Rican Boa
editHi Yannick, Yesterday I saw that, back in July, you (and AshLin) had continued that conversation on the Puerto Rican Boa page after I took it off much watchlist. I realize now that I should not have been canvasing you and others for their votes, but I wanted to thank you for your support anyway. It was a learning experience for me, even if it was also somewhat depressing. I like that you found another common name for the species, and also your idea of how googling for these names to see which one gets more hits can only be an indication of the truth and possibly also regarded as "own research." I'm going to remember that! Cheers, --Jwinius (talk) 22:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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