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Hurricane Flora?

I've been reading this article, hoping to make some article out of it. On the last para, it syays Palmer Stadium was ravaged by Hurricane Flora durign a november 1950 game. Can;t find mention of a '50 Flroa anywhere else. Help please? Buggie111 (talk) 16:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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Finally got to the September 1962 TD revision

It took a while. I tried to hunt down the original Excel file, which disappeared. I appended the readings from that publication to the plot from the former spreadsheet. Changes were quite small. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Helen

Hi,

The rain accumulation estimation has nothing to do with the Doppler capabilities of a weather radar. This is totally a reflectivity issue. The use of "Doppler radar", mainly in US, is a mistake that imply that Doppler radar are equivalent to weather radar. Doppler radar is a category of radars with continuous waves or discrete pulse that are used in different systems ranging front fighter aircraft to police radar gunto estimate the speed of targets. In the case of meteorology, this is just an extra function added to the reflectivity of conventional radar. To link the accumulation of rain to Doppler radar is thus totally passing beside the point.

If you absolutely want to put Doppler in the link, do Doppler weather radar or Pulse-Doppler weather radar.

Pierre cb (talk) 01:13, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

No problem. This is an easy mistake as the term "Doppler radar" is used so often by the media. Pierre cb (talk) 01:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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GAN

Hey, no worries. I was actually going to ask today, do you want me to just do a quick copyedit myself, or post a bunch of copyediting suggestions on the review page? Neither is too much trouble. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 15:53, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Then I'll take care of all the stuff that wouldn't change the meaning of what's written, and put the rest on the GA review page. I'll have that all worked up within 24 hours, is that ok? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 16:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Understandable! :) Thanks for the reminder. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 16:15, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

If you don't mind a bit of quid pro quo, I've got Andromeda (constellation) up for GAN (apparently the only constellation article close to GA. That makes me sad.) I'd be happy to review Lenny! I'll go print it out now. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 18:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the GAN review. I'm about halfway through Lenny, so I'll get to your comments on Andromeda and post mine on Lenny after I get home (in about 5-6 hours). Sound good? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:17, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

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Andromeda and kittens

Two of my favorite things - GAs about constellations and kittens! Thanks for the excellent review. Drop me a line if you ever need anything! Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 00:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Nyan cat is so cute! It's good to be back and writing content. :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 01:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Yup, I stayed away for a few years but just couldn't resist a new pet project. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 01:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

How on earth could you tell? I thought I was being subtle. But yes, I noticed that all of the constellation articles were complete crap...not a single one out of 88 had passed any kind of formal review. That's sad. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 01:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh God, 1 down, 87 to go. In that case, I may hit you up for a review or two. (BTW, I haven't forgotten about Lenny or Debby. I'll have those comments up for you in a little bit). Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

That's excellent! I definitely can't go it alone though. Unfortunately WikiProject Constellations is dead as a doornail. Ah well, it's not like I have much to do anyways. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 02:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Not really, I think I'll stick a note on the astronomy project's talk page. Maybe something will come of that? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 03:02, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure I'll run across someone in my editing travels. Thanks so much for your help! Good luck with that epic featured topic! :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 03:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I figured too. There's no deadline, so I don't think there's any harm in just letting it sit. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 19:01, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Infobox hurricane Impact

Hello, Hink. I just think, that this is not a good idea. Pittily it was decided with a few comments only and aside you none of those I ever saw in the WPTC. In this there are, IMO, two different questions to desolve:

1. whether the impact article needs an infobox at all
2. if they need what should be included into this infobox.

Independently on those two questions those articles should not have the same infobox like the main article. The Infobox hurricane is made for article about hurricanes. An arcticle about the effects of Hurricane XY isn't an article about a hurricane. You certainly won't put the Infobox settlement in the History of Atlanta article. So why would you place the Infobox hurricane in the Effects of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans?

And then, the collection of infoboxes in all the hurricane articles are a database on their own. At the last dump EN Wikipedia had 483 articles using the Template:Infobox hurricane, and this is a table of all parameters used in the articles (wether they exist in the template proper or not). And those are the first 30 of them. Can you imagine what the merging and using Template:Infobox hurricane within the effects articles series will do with the value of the database, here in it's entirety?

I'm indifferent, wether the effects articles series does need an infobox of all, but I am sure that we must not use Template:Infobox hurricane in those articles ever. --Matthiasb (talk) 16:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's all about redundancy, isn't it? Why we should include the hurricane infobox in an sub-article on a specific storm again, if it already is included in the main article? Let's take Katrina with three? four? different effects articles? In each of them? I don't know any other example in the WP in which sub-articles get the infobox from the main article. Putting the IB from Hurricane Katrina into Effects of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans is actually the same as would be putting the IB from New York City into the article on the Upper West Side as well. Would you do the latter? The more we discuss on it the more I think those infoboxes should be dropped from the effects articles series completely. --Matthiasb (talk) 23:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

If the template is the same then the content will be the same and therefor is unneeded as I tried to explain with my NYC-UWS example. And, if the infobox is used within the effects articles series then the value of the hurricane infobox database (see above) is hampered because then the same entry is included twice or even more times. The problem isn't in the redundancy between both templates, the problem is the redundancy of the content of the infobox within the Hurricane Katrina and Effects of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and the wrong use at all. Could you perhaps explain why the latter article should infcude the Hurricane Katrina infobox? The day when Katrina formed and that it affected other areas before, even the satellite image, even the peak intensity is of no interest within Effects of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. It's just creating redundancy and kind of spamming an article with information unnecessary within the specific context. However I guess you're not understanding what actually I want to say and I am not really sure wether it's because of my Pidgin English or because of dissenting opionions. Sorry if I am confusing you. --Matthiasb (talk) 06:15, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

PS: Trying another approach... If the effects articles series needs an infobox then it needs to include values describing the effects of the storm. How many people where affected. When where they affected. How much was insured damage. Which aid agencies got in. How many people have been evacuated. Was it a mandatory evac. Wether there have been electricity of communication outages. In which time the area was affected (that's not when the storm formed and dissipated). What is not needed from the Infobox hurricane: satellite image, formed, dissipated, peak intensity – those are informations of no interest for the effects article. Template:Infobox hurricane is not useful in effect articles. --Matthiasb (talk) 06:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Well I don't think the discussion is heated or even lame. I only observe that you do not refer to any of the reasons I mentioned above, and you're constantly repeating the one issue, that one infobox redudant to the other. But that is not and never was my point. That's quite disappointing and frustrating, you know, but what the matter.

For shorten this: No. I don't need an infobox for the effects article series. I just don't want the normal hurricane infobox used in the effects article because of that articles do not describe hurricanes. Stop. And readers may find this confusing, especially if It's not like the effects template would include the exact same info as the regular hurricane one. Nice. People see the infobox in the New Orleans article and soon wrong numbers will flow around in the wild. Am I really the only who thinks that this will not work out good? Let's end this discussion here. Let us rather clean up the mess in a year or two. --Matthiasb (talk) 09:52, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hurricane Lenny copy edit request

I saw that you put up a copy edit request for this article back in January, but that it's already moving through the FAC process, and looks to be close to passing. It also looks like someone else did a lot of copy editing of the article at the end of January. Would you still like someone from WP:GOCE to copy edit the article, or would it be okay to remove it from the requests list? —Torchiest ^talk_edits 19:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Query

I saw you at the featured topic board, and wanted to ask you something. I am currently working on the article Ra.One, and its aiming for an FA. I had to cut down on the article's content a lot so as to make the article concise, hence allowing me to make a number of daughter articles such as Principal photography of Ra.One, Post-production of Ra.One, Marketing of Ra.One and Economics of Ra.One; not to mention the already-existing daughter articles Soundtrack of Ra.One and List of accolades received by Ra.One. I was wondering whether this would be applicable for a good/featured topic after I can get them to GA/FA status. Something like this :-

Ra.One

7 articles

Principal photography of Ra.One

Post-production of Ra.One

Soundtrack of Ra.One

Marketing of Ra.One

Economics of Ra.One

List of accolades received by Ra.One

Would this be a valid topic candidate? Thanks. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 07:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Could you also explain to me about the details of making a book out of these articles? i;m rather fascinated with this aspect. Thanks. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 07:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

You know, all those articles had been part of the main article. It was only on FAC insistence that they were split :P. Yes, it does seem a lot, but I guess its just because there so much information regarding this film. Thanks for the information :). ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 17:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot :). ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 04:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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Main page appearance: Hurricane John (2006)

This is a note to let the main editors of Hurricane John (2006) know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 25, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 25, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Hurricane John was the eleventh named storm, seventh hurricane, and fifth major hurricane of the 2006 Pacific hurricane season. Hurricane John developed on August 28 from a tropical wave to the south of Mexico. Favorable conditions allowed the storm to intensify quickly, and it attained peak winds of 135 mph (215 km/h) on August 30. Eyewall replacement cycles and land interaction with western Mexico weakened the hurricane, and John made landfall on southeastern Baja California Sur with winds of 110 mph (180 km/h) on September 1. It slowly weakened as it moved northwestward through the Baja California peninsula, and dissipated on September 4. The hurricane threatened large portions of the western coastline of Mexico, resulting in the evacuation of tens of thousands of people. In coastal portions of western Mexico, strong winds downed trees, while heavy rain resulted in mudslides. Hurricane John caused moderate damage on the Baja California peninsula, including the destruction of more than 200 houses and thousands of flimsy shacks. The hurricane killed five people in Mexico, and damage totaled $663 million (2006 MXN, $60.8 million 2006 USD). (more...)

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Precious

	thinking on hurricanes
	Thank you for expanding our knowledge of hurricanes, adding storms to the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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Beryl rainfall graphics & page

The rain is just ending in NC. I have to wait for the COOP reports to come in tomorrow, which won't be in an ingestable format until late afternoon tomorrow. The rainfall spreadsheet should be complete enough to create graphics on Friday, with the webpage created on Saturday. That's the goal anyway. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Storm Tracks

It was from the India Met Dept RSMC Page. As you suggested, i'll make the changes. I'll let you decide if you want to keep or not, when a new, legit version is ready.

Thanks for the eye-opener :)

Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 16:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Well the image is ready, didn't take long to change it.

Well i couldn't add more lines to EPAC as the source has some other data. Here is the source. Let me know for any changes. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 17:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, what i'll do is downgrade the number of lines from four to two, one each for the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. That seems fair for me. Just let me know your view Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes its true that every TC has a unique track, but for an average person, he would like to know where they form and where they usually go. This is not achieved by a simple Basin map. An average track map will fulfill the same. Hope you get what i want to say. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, they look similar too, ill add an extra arrow for EPAC, as the map shows, pointing towards the west pacific. Similarly reduce the NIO arrows to two. Will even add one more in the Madagascar area, and one in the eastern Australian Region. Basically i'll combine both. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 18:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

A good question. Most probably the IMD image would be copyrighted. I will recreate the NOAA version only, since it falls in public domain. Will have it ready by tomorrow. Thanks for your support.Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 18:45, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll modify the arrows as the NOAA version shows. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 04:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

The NOAA Image is very small, i am recreating it in Scalable Vector Garphics (SVG), which allows the user to render the image to any size he wants. As simple as that. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 14:43, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, we all expect quality images in Wikipedia, right? Even if we upload the NOAA version, it will soon be converted into an SVG by someone else. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 13:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Tornado Source

Here you go Hink. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 19:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tropical Storm Beryl (2012)

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1985 Puerto Rico floods GA review

Hi Hurricanehink, I've posted some comments for this article's GA review. All minor stuff, the article looks pretty good overall. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I've passed the article, congratulations. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

• Replied on my talk. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
• Thanks for the comments on Sadler, I think I've taken care of the issues that you pointed out. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:02, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Beryl

I noticed that too, you know! How stupid am i? I must have gotten Bret, which i was trying to edit, gotten confused with Beryl. Plmnji (talk) 20:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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Rainfall from storms prior to 1956

There is a techinical memorandum from 1956 detailing tropical cyclone rainfall for the United States on a case-by-case basis back to 1899. I don't know if it's been scanned online or not since I haven't tried searching for it online in over 10 years. Thegreatdr (talk) 15:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hurricane Bud (2012)

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Hurricanes and tropical cyclones

Hi Hurricane,

Great work with getting all those tropical-cyclone-related articles up to featured status! I am concerned about the titles of three central articles that fall within the scope of tropical cyclones and I was hoping that you would engage in discussion with me about them. The three articles are North Atlantic tropical cyclone, Pacific hurricane, and Typhoon. As far as I can tell from the North Atlantic tropical cyclone article, Atlantic tropical cyclones sometimes form in the southern hemisphere, so to call the article "North Atlantic" is to make it too specific, even if the vast majority form in the northern hemisphere. Similarly, the Tropical cyclone article tells me that hurricanes and typhoons are only one level of intensity of tropical cyclones, so the titles "Pacific hurricane" and "Typhoon" seem to be too specific to be the Pacific analogues of the North Atlantic tropical cyclone article. In the interest of consistency of scope across articles, I would like to see North Atlantic tropical cyclone, Pacific hurricane, and Typhoon be moved to Atlantic tropical cyclone, Eastern Pacific tropical cyclone, and Western Pacific tropical cyclone respectively. I recognize that you have more background in this subject than I do, so I would be grateful for your help in working out these issues.

Neelix (talk) 07:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Hurricane,

Article titles are a specific passion of mine on Wikipedia; I think they are one of the most important elements of an article, partly because they demonstrate their connection to the other articles on Wikipedia and partly because they are so easily and subtlely distorted by POV in ways that have major implications for article content. I am mostly interested in organization on Wikipedia, so I do a lot of work with article titles, navboxes, and hatnotes. I'm also very active at Today's featured list and I'm trying to get List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States up on the main page. Feel free to contribute to the discussion here.

Neelix (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Hurricane,

Thanks for the comments on List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States! I don't know if your meteorological interests extend to snow, but if they do, your comments would be welcome here as well.

Neelix (talk) 00:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Hurricane,

Oh right. You did a good job on it! Hopefully, it will make it to the main page.

Neelix (talk) 00:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Oy

The Mos is quite clear that the dates have to be in the same format throughout the article, which is backed up by the numerous amount of people going around and changing the dates and alignign them to which ever is the preferred format in the article. Also i note that there is a typo in the first paragraph which i had corrected.Jason Rees (talk) 20:48, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

It must be in the MoS as otherwise i doubt the script i use would be removing them, I cant be asked to go through it right now though as im going through the rainfall. I also note though that there was a lot more to my edit then just removing the &nbsps, i alligned all of the dates and corrected a couple of typos.Jason Rees (talk) 03:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

There was no need for you to RV in the first place by just stating that "isn't any cleaner", when it is a lot cleaner than it was as all of the dates were spelled out properly and in to the same format and i had corrected a typo or two. As for which policy it is, there must be something on it in the MoS since the whole script is built around maintaining the standards of the MoS.Jason Rees (talk) 12:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

The &nbsps; are removed by the script because they are not useful for dates and just clutter the place up (except when editors want to stop a line feed by default).Jason Rees (talk) 14:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah but for dates it doest do it and PS: its not my opinion its the script editors.Jason Rees (talk) 14:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Meh, there has been a lot of drama in my life, both offline and online. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Hurricane,

I have started a move discussion here in order to open the topic to the broader community. Your comments there would be greatly appreciated.

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I've reviewed your nomination and the article nicely done. I left some comments at [[ Talk:Typhoon Chataan/GA1. Really, just one question.

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Category 6 hurricane

There is an ongoing discussion at List of Category 6 Atlantic hurricanes as to whether this page should be kept or redirected to List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes. Your input on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. United States Man (talk) 04:32, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

re GAN 1933 Trinidad hurricane

Hi,

Did leave a few comments (minor) at Talk:1933 Trinidad hurricane/GA1

On another note, could you explain to me how you find those old google newspaper articles?

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Hi Hurricane,

Thanks for all the comments in the List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States TFL discussion. I believe all of your concerns have been addressed; if you would comment there to let us know whether or not there is more work required, it would be greatly appreciated. Some concerns have been raised at the Snow in Florida TFL discussion as well; if you have time, your help in addressing those concerns would be appreciated as well. Specifically, I do not know how to address the concern regarding the lead graph, and I feel as though you are probably more qualified to extend the lead than I am.

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Hurricane Andrew Statistics section

Hello Hurricanehink, I noticed that the Statistics section was removed from the WIkipedia page on June 1. That section contained my contributions to research on Hurricane Andrew, and fixed some errors (e.g. Clemson University did not conduct the Perrine anemometer wind tunnel tests). I spent four years of research on Hurricane Andrew, leading to two peer-reviewed papers which were cited in that section. Rather than edit the page again myself, it would be great if you could reinstate that material. It could be contained in the section on Meteorology if there was a desire to remove material in the statistics section. You can contact me at Mark.Powell@noaa.gov if you have any questions.

My web page is: www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Powell/index.html

Mark Powell Markdpowell (talk) 16:24, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) After looking at the difs: some of the bits that you wrote could go back in, but you would need to talk to User:12george1 who is the person trying to get the article up to scratch, to see why he removed the section.Jason Rees (talk) 17:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Your comments at the Istanbul FAC

I don't know how much you've been following the Istanbul FAC, but I believe I've responded to all of your comments there. -- tariqabjotu 20:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

My comments at the Istanbul FAC

Now that the candidacy is closed, as should have been expected (and, frankly, was expected by me when I penned the two offending comments on the FAC), I would like to take the time to apologize for my comments directed at you in the Istanbul FAC. Indeed, I can imagine the "few hours" you noted you spent reviewing the article was an understatement, given the article's immense length, and for me to use words suggesting I found your comments "nonsense" or "inane" was inappropriate and unfair, especially given -- as I did notice well before my remarks -- you did say you were overall pleased with the article. Reviewers there should never have to be subjected to such hostility, and I am truly saddened that I contributed to your reluctance to participate in future FACs (and that this is not the first issue like this you've run into at the FAC).

In the interest of being honest, rather than simply angling for forgiveness, I will say that even now, I still disagree with the points that I kept unaddressed (although, as you point out, I did not notice that the 17,000 figure should have been replaced with 18,000). But, of course, my approach of choosing to outright ignore you was inappropriate and immature. I could come up with a few excuses -- it was late at night, I really wasn't expecting to deal with so many comments late in the FAC, blah, blah -- but the real explanation is just that my disagreement with you and bewilderment with some of the issues you had had become so strong that my judgment was clouded. Okay, that sounded like an excuse as well, but what I mean is, instead of commenting in the heat of the moment, I should have taken a step back, gotten a good night's sleep, and waited before expressing how I felt. And, as Mitch suggested, the more appropriate course of action would have been to just state that I would like a second opinion before modifying content I otherwise felt didn't need to be modified.

Not trying to change the subject, after getting that night's sleep, rethinking the matter, and seeing the conclusion I directly created, I see that my remarks were not only inconsiderate to you, but to the process as a whole (as stated by Graham) and to the other editors who have contributed to the article in some way over the years. I presume that your disdain for my outburst does not change your opinion about the article itself, and so for it to fail to gain featured status because of what ultimately were my inane remarks is not fair to these other editors either. For that reason, at some point, I would like to either reinstate the existing FAC -- sans the offending remarks, of course -- or otherwise start a second FAC. However (or nevertheless), I would prefer that you let me know or decide when you feel it's acceptable for me to do that -- even if it's never.

But most importantly, I hope that at some point, and I don't necessarily expect now, you'll forgive me for my comments at the FAC. -- tariqabjotu 02:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the kind post, and I very much forgive you. The unfortunate things about arguments on Wikipedia is that they're simply through text (so wording can becoming amplified in our head) and that they are time-delayed (so that you might not see something I wrote until hours later, and I might not be able to reply back until hours after that). In my seven years on Wikipedia, I've had several little spats between myself and another editor, and all of them ended amicably whenever the other editor was a fairly prolific article-writer.

Personally, I blame you being on vacation :P I'll admit, if I had a FAC that was up for a while, and then when I was on vacation I got a ton of comments (some of which I disagreed with), I might be a little annoyed too. To be honest, I was a little facetious when I said I wouldn't be continuing to participate on future FAC's. I mostly just said that to mimic what you said, and so I do apologize and take back those remarks. I've retired Wiki twice, gone on several Wiki breaks, and gone through a lot of other stuff here on Wiki, so don't worry, you're not going to be the cause of me stopping FAC reviewing. That's fine if you disagree with some of my comments - it's only one user's comments out of millions. If you do put Istanbul up for FAC again, either some of those comments will come up again, or no one will care about them, in which case, hopefully no significant harm done. I do suggest you put it back up for FAC at some point. It is a fantastic article, and you deserve the star after your years of work on there.

Good luck with your future wiki endeavors, and if you feel like getting revenge, I have an FAC up too :P (hence why I reviewed yours in the first place) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and perhaps your analysis of the situation is correct. I'll probably wait until my vacation finishes in a week's time before starting a second nomination, but the academic year is looming ahead for me, and disruption of my studies would be even worse than disruption of my vacation. I might actually take a look at the article you have up for featured status; I do have some interest in hurricanes, and I've never done a review before. One thing I noticed right away is that the first paragraph mentions the storm forming on June 28, but -- as far as I can tell -- the year has not been mentioned yet by then. -- tariqabjotu 20:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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That guy is clearly not willing to talk. He just keeps vandalizing by plausible misinformation to articles (minor alteration of facts), which is categorized under sneaky vandalism. 165.125.180.10 (talk) 02:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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Just to see if you're still editing. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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Gale of 1878

I'm currently trying to improve this article. Would like someone to look over it and comment. Might be C-class by now.Graham1973 (talk) 21:28, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your(?) comments. Searching online for sources other than the three I linked to does not bring up much with any detail. Multiple wikipedia mirrors/cut'n paste sites are also clouding the issue. One possibly useful site hurricanearchive.com has disappeared and been replaced by a japanese language site about back pain.Graham1973 (talk) 00:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again, the new information should help. I should make clear that I did not create the page. I am only trying to improve what the original anonymous author did, I'm assuming he was working entirely from:

RE-ANALYSIS OF THE GALE OF '78 - STORM 9 OF THE 1878 HURRICANE SEASON. Graham1973 (talk) 01:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in popular culture

Thanks again for the additional information/advice. BTW you might also want to take a quick look at Tropical cyclones in popular culture where I've mounted a major effort to clean up the references. The task is not finished yet and there are a few changes to entries to come, but the article is much improved. Graham1973 (talk) 02:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I've done a few more tweaks, but I think I've hit the wall regarding citations (at least online ones), I'm going to try and locate some of the uncited books in the local library system.Graham1973 (talk) 04:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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WELL I WAS IN HUMBERTO SO WHAT IM STILL A ROCKSTAR

I was in humberto. I had to go back to Manchester Uk to School because of this. Did you have experience, eh? -_- --188.223.248.201 (talk) 16:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

yh it did you read this it says Delaware Emergency Management Agency so obvs he was in delaware he went to ny too I had to go back to Manchester UK School from ny because of this. -_- --188.223.248.201 (talk) 18:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

"Other Systems" 2012PTS discussion.

Hello Hink!

As i though the other storms section in the western pacific was just a hunk of words, i thought it would be better if i added the inbox hurricane thing to show each TD's track and satellite image for viewers to see. This is my version of the Other storms section of the page(go down to the other storms section), but Jason just changed it to the original blob of words, with nothing interesting. As i thought, if the viewers were thinking of hey, all i see is just words and no track or image for me too see. As i do not like being involved in a edit war, so i decide to talk here and to decide on what to do. Please reply in my talk page, all i just want it to make Wikipedia better.-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉^Talk_Contribs 02:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Norman flooding in Texas

Would you consider the texas flooding related to Norman as most sources do not attribute it to Norma, but Acuweather and Wunderground do. What do you think is the best treatment here? Give a separate article on the flood or have the content in Normans' article or have info on the Texas flooding not exist on WP? Normally, I would ask on IRC, but I can not acess IRC on a school computer. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, there is a new article called 2012-13 United States winter storm season that is providing information about the new naming system that The Weather Channel is giving major winter storms. I would much appreciate help from you there. I understand that you might be only based around tropical cyclones, but the way that the page should look is expected to be similar to most hurricane articles. Stop by and comment on the talk page if you would like to help, thanks! STO12 (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Re:WPTC

I oppose info on Hector to go into Ernesto's article as the storms are separate. "what sort of different info would a Hector article have than what's already in the season article and what's in Ernesto's article" is exactly why I said "WPTC sucks" I could bring this up, however, it would be extremely counterproductive and make the edit atmosphere toxic. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

You're fast at replying :P As I've said many times, I don't like the closed minded article mentality no offense, but for I start whining, ill warp it up here. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Hence, why I try not to bring it up. People simply don't understand my logic. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:22, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I truly more or less think, we as a project should do 3 things, in particular the first. I hope you take no offense to this, but it is how I really feel.

1) Keep an open mind on article creation and not go wtf did it do and/or "is this really necessary" towards creating/merging articles

2) Work around notability and stay focused on article writing

3) Compromise and not get dramatic on non-merging issues such as landfalls in the SE charts and ACE. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 21:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

No, not in the way you put it. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 00:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

While I feel it is pointless to do articles for "every storm", I do believe that all (or almost all) Car 4 and 5's should get articles, along with pretty much all land impacting systems. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 00:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Most Cat 4's (as for pre-1988, I can only go so far with those) have enough for their own article. "How is it better to have hundreds of additional articles when we already have hundreds of stubs and start class articles? "How is it better to have hundreds of additional articles when we already have hundreds of stubs and start class articles?" is not really relevant, merging articles will not get me to work on more important articles. I don't think the number of paragraphs is a good indicator of article length as some editors write longer paragraphs than others. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 01:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Hence, why I have been reluctant to bring this up over the years. A 1988 PHS Cat 4 is more likely to have more info than a 1987 PHS Cat 4. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 01:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Hence, why I said "most" and not all earlier. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 01:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Mostly agreed. It's one of three things I highly dislike about WPTC, so that alone does not makes WPTC suck (it does not help either). YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 02:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Yea. FYI, I don't consider storm articles sub-articles of the season. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 02:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

IMO seasons describe what happens in the season (why it was so inactive/active, how did it compare to average) and comprehensive summaries of the weak fishes while storms are physical entries describing a storm, not a season. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 02:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

They should. I don't think there should be 15 storm articles a season. Some, but not all tropical cyclone can support a reasonably sized article (500-700 words) and for those systems that can support that, they should get articles. Now, for newer systems, alomst every tropical cyclone can support a realistically sized, so notability and sources should be more of a factor here. When articles are given for marginally notable storms, there should not be a two paragraph summary in the season section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 02:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi! If that's the case, then a full citation, which is what the tag added indicates, to say that. As the citations currently exist, there is no way to know they can be found on Lexis Nexis. If you could improve the citations like issn, doi, author, page number, etc. I use databases a lot and there are ways to do that, such as using the author, agency, newspaper while using the publisher as Lexis Nexis. Otherwise, they aren't verifiable. If I was reviewing this at GA, which I debated after seeing it getting listed, I'd pretty much require it as well, no plagiarism checks are possible, no ability exists to verify, etc. --LauraHale (talk) 04:06, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I've decided to do the GA. As you used these sources and I cannot verify these sources existence, it is up to you to figure out how to provide a full citation so I can do that. --LauraHale (talk) 04:17, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Fair use of a non-free image

I would like to upload the picture of the winter waterspout pictured here. It is by Environment Canada with an exception for educational purposes, so it still falls under the non-free image policy. By my reading of WP:NFC, I believe it meets the requirements of fair use, since it is one of the only pictures of a winter waterspout, thus falling under a unique historical image. Since you're an administrator, I was hoping you could confirm/deny my interpretation and let me know if I should be ok to upload the file. Thank you. Inks.LWC (talk) 06:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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I've left some comments at the review. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hurricane Paul

Hink, do you know who started the Paul article? I'm a bit confused.-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉^Talk_Contribs 07:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Kammuri (2002)

Hi. I saw Tropical Storm Kammuri (2002) was recently passed as GA. I am considering opening a Good Article Review on this article, and potentially more GAs on hurricanes, typhoons and tropical storms that you have assisted in elevating where full citations have not been provided, AND where the reviewer appears to have failed to assess the article on criteria two. Please provide full, complete citations by including a URL for verification, or the page number for the physical copy of the text. If you cannot provide a way for a reviewer to access this information, I will happily delist the article as it fails criteria 2. --LauraHale (talk) 19:29, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

That is fine. Talk:Tropical Storm Kammuri (2002)/GA2 has been opened. As I get the time, I will work on this review. I will give it one week. It will be easier if the citations are full so I can verify. Your assistance in improving the article so it meets criteria 2 would be appreciated. The goal here is to make sure the article keeps its GA status. It clearly does not pass criteria as it stands, and we can work together to fix this.--LauraHale (talk) 19:53, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:Paul

There is no ref column in the SE chart for me to source it in :P YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, the damage total is provided in the Paul article link. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:02, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Timeline discussion

I figured as an admin, you might be able to bring some objective judgment to the discussion going on at Talk:Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season regarding the current revisions. Inks.LWC (talk) 05:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Dang

You're quick, Hink. I was in the middle of tagging the original target under G6 when you deleted it! Did you see the discussion on the talk page? --Dylan620 ^{(I'm all ears)} 02:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Anonymous201

Hey What's this user? Look at the edits done here. The title is similar to the real Anonymouse321. What's going on? It's freaking me out!-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉^Talk_Contribs 12:11, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

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Timeline

I drafted a timeline for the Winter Storm Season this time around, would you mind taking a look? It's in my sandbox for now, I'm waiting for people to decide what we're going to do before I create a timeline page in articlespace. Thanks! gwickwire | Leave a message 04:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback - gwickwire

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Discussions concerning non-tropical cyclones

Since you've been involved with articles on non-tropical cyclones in the past, I thought this might be a relevant area for you to give some input. At the moment, there is discussion going on about whether we should adopt The Weather Channel's new procedure of using names for winter storms that will have a significant impact. There are two discussions going on: an AFD of the article about the current winter storm season and a proposal to not use TWC's naming system as the title for an ongoing storm. Out of full disclosure, I've started both of those discussions, and while I have my own opinions, I wanted to get fresh opinions from editors who, like me, have a history of editing similar articles in the past. Thank you. Inks.LWC (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback - gwickwire

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Thanks

For your help on Church of the SubGenius; it is now a good article. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Article delete request

User:Ramon FVelasquez would like to have this article deleted, as the main page is here.Thank You.-- ✯Earth100✯◕‿◕ ^Talk _Contribs 06:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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You must place my article back! (Tropical Depression 18W)

The tropical cyclone pages says that my article is useful and will learn something new. The article is just a weeks ago then you just only noticed that it has a violation? Besides, you must ask a permission to me before you delete my article. I don't care if you have many stars but my point is that I worked it so hard researching about it what happened to the next day. I know I worked for it for one week then you will just redirect it for one day? You have to use your common sense if you have some 09:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)09:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)Hurricane trackers (talk) 09:05, 19 November 2012 (UTC)