IFoerster

Speedy deletion nomination of CinEx

Hello IFoerster,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged CinEx for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ishdarian 13:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Cinavia article and CinEx deletion

• moved from User talk:Ishdarian#Cinavia article and CinEx deletion (to keep it all in one place)

Hello Ishdarian, i really do not understand that you have deleted the information page for CinEx. Sure the first version was advertising suspected but I have changed the wording to a very neutral one. But finaly you have deleted it. CinEx is really academic content. It is a technology that removes watermark systesm and we have also written a very extended white paper about this technology and our research results. BUt is it not worth to inform the world about it because it is used in a commercial software? In teh final draft there was just explaining what CinEx , without any reference to the company. So where is the advertising content? Is flash from Adobe also advertising? So I think you really you break a butterfly on a wheel with your deletion and so my academic colleagues will not get the information about how CinEx is working. I think a losing for a free encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IFoerster (talk • contribs) 16:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello IFoerster, I did not see the CinEx article before it was deleted. However, with your above admission that it is advertising, I can see Ishdarian's rationales for following the Wikipedia policies and deleting it. If the "CinEx" software becomes notable in the future, such that there are (reliable) third-party citations, then an article on the subject could be created at some point in the future.

A far more appropriate place to reference the "CinEx white paper" is in the Cinavia article itself, and I have now done this[1] in an appropriate manner. That said the white paper is extremely thin on useful or usable details. The white paper offering has the potential for being an extremely useful situation source, but appears to have been made intentionally vague for no apparent reason. Please consider adding some basic details such as discovered bitrate. —Sladen (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

You get paid?

Hello User:Ishdarian, why in hell you deleted everyting we posted about CinEx? And this DVDFab advertising is still in the site? Hey we have academic background and academic white paper about our work to remove Cinavia. Why in hell you removed this? Whats zup with you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IFoerster (talk • contribs) 19:33, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I think it is unlikely that Ishdarian is paid to work on Wikipedia. Please be thankful for the time given instead. As noted immediately above, the "academic" white paper is very thin on useful (eg. numerical) details that would give it useful credence. Most of the paper is a history of previous methods; the only two new bits of information:

1. The limits of the harmonic phase-discontinuities used for the synchronisation phase (+/-0.2% for 25% of the time); and
2. Noting that the modulation coefficient "seems to get as high as 20%"

It is unclear why the synchronisation mechanism (fundamentally necessary for basic operation) is referred to as "hack protection". Of the two graphs in the PDF; one has nothing to do with Cinavia and is seemingly lifted straight from ISO 226:2003. As a general aside, exposure comes from having an interesting story to tell; but you have to be willing to tell (share) that story for it to be interesting (rather than just allude to it). We would all really appreciate corrections/improvements to Wikipedia and the Cinavia article where you have good knowledge—particularly pointing out where the article is incorrect. Even better: go one step forward, publish your detection code as open source and watch everyone use and improve your code and get your name and exposure that way! (See DeCSS and Jon Lech Johansen). Hope that helps, and thank you for wanting to get involved with improving Wikipedia. —Sladen (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

It is really a shame that you missuse your righs here. Shame on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IFoerster (talk • contribs) 10:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry IFoerster, the only one misusing Wikipedia is you by posting copyrighted material. Ishdarian 10:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of recreated CinEx

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A tag has been placed on CinEx requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from www.dvd2hd.com/cinex/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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In response to your question on my talk page, no, I am not paid to edit. The article started as a promo piece. The promo part has been fixed, but it's still a copyright violation. You might want to take a look at the first-time article guide, or try building the article at Articles for Creation. Over at AfC, there are plenty of volunteers who can help you work on your article. Ishdarian 10:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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