User talk:Iazyges/Archives/2018/August

Your GA nomination of Christopher Lekapenos

The article Christopher Lekapenos you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Christopher Lekapenos for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:02, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you ...

High Tatras

... for improving article quality in July! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Florianus

The article Florianus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Florianus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Konstantios Doukas

The article Konstantios Doukas you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Konstantios Doukas for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Andronikos Doukas (co-emperor)

The article Andronikos Doukas (co-emperor) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Andronikos Doukas (co-emperor) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Byzantine GANs

Hi Iazyges! When you want to nominate one of my short Byzantine biographical articles for GA, please check with me first specifically for each article. On the one hand, some of them, like Isaac Komnenos (son of Alexios I) are not complete yet; on the other, the reviewer may require changes where I as the main author and the one with access to the original sources need to be available to edit them. I know we discussed this some months ago and I gave you a go ahead, but this was not meant as a blank check. After all, an article I wrote back in 2010 is often not up to my standards of 2018 ;). I appreciate the enthusiasm, but currently my watchlist is full of GANs left and right of articles that are often half-baked, and trying to keep tabs with them is frustrating. Constantine ✍ 12:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cplakidas: Apologies, I'll make sure to run them by you in future. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 17:08, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hostilian

The article Hostilian you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hostilian for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 09:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Nikephoros Diogenes

The article Nikephoros Diogenes you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nikephoros Diogenes for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Good Article Barnstar

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Congratulations for getting Avidius Cassius to Good Article status! Great piece of work. It was a pleasure reviewing your article. MX (✉ • ✎) 02:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
• Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

• The WMF Anti-Harassment Tools team is seeking input on the second set of wireframes for the Special:Block redesign that will introduce partial blocks. The new functionality will allow you to block a user from editing a specific set of pages, pages in a category, a namespace, and for specific actions such as moving pages and uploading files.

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Your GA nomination of Constantine Doukas (co-emperor)

The article Constantine Doukas (co-emperor) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Constantine Doukas (co-emperor) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:41, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Avidius Cassius

The article Avidius Cassius you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Avidius Cassius for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MX -- MX (talk) 03:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D looks at a classic US official history Op-ed: TomStar81 on belated declarations of war in 1916–18 Timeline: This month in World War I

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 08:35, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Peer review newsletter #1

Introduction

Hello to all! I do not intend to write a regular peer review newsletter but there does occasionally come a time when those interested in contributing to peer review should be contacted, and now is one. I've mailed this out to everyone on the peer review volunteers list, and some editors that have contributed to past discussions. Apologies if I've left you off or contacted you and you didn't want it. Next time there is a newsletter / mass message it will be opt in (here), I'll talk about this below - but first:

• THANK YOU! I want to thank you for your contributions and for volunteering on the list to help out at peer review. Thank you!
• Peer review is useful! It's good to have an active peer review process. This is often the way that we help new or developing editors understand our ways, and improve the quality of their editing - so it fills an important and necessary gap between the teahouse (kindly introduction to our Wikiways) and GA and FA reviews (specific standards uphelp according to a set of quality criteria). And we should try and improve this process where possible (automate, simplify) so it can be used and maintained easily.

Updates

It can get quite lonely tinkering with peer review...

With a bit of effort we can renovate the place to look like this!

Update #1: the peer review volunteers list is changing

The list is here in case you've forgotten: WP:PRV. Kadane has kindly offered to create a bot that will ping editors on the volunteers list with unanswered reviews in their chosen subject areas every so often. You can choose the time interval by changing the "contact" parameter. Options are "never", "monthly", "quarterly", "halfyearly", and "annually". For example:

• {{PRV|JohnSmith|History of engineering|contact=monthly}} - if placed in the "History" section, JohnSmith will receive an automatic update every month about unanswered peer reviews relating to history.
• {{PRV|JaneSmith|Mesopotamian geography, Norwegian fjords|contact=annually}} - if placed in the "Geography" section, JaneSmith will receive an automatic update every yearly about unanswered peer reviews in the geography area.

We can at this stage only use the broad peer review section titles to guide what reviews you'd like, but that's better than nothing! You can also set an interest in multiple separate subject areas that will be updated at different times.

Update #2: a (lean) WikiProject Peer review

I don't think we need a WikiProject with a giant bureaucracy nor all sorts of whiz-bang features. However over the last few years I've found there are times when it would have been useful to have a list of editors that would like to contribute to discussions about the peer review process (e.g. instructions, layout, automation, simplification etc.). Also, it can get kind of lonely on the talk page as I am (correct me if I'm wrong) the only regular contributor, with most editors moving on after 6 - 12 months.

So, I've decided to create "WikiProject Peer review". If you'd like to contribute to the WikiProject, or make yourself available for future newsletters or contact, please add yourself to the list of members.

Update #3: advertising

We plan to do some advertising of peer review, to let editors know about it and how to volunteer to help, at a couple of different venues (Signpost, Village pump, Teahouse etc.) - but have been waiting until we get this bot + WikiProject set up so we have a way to help interested editors make more enduring contributions. So consider yourself forewarned!

And... that's it!

I wish you all well on your Wikivoyages, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

NPR School

I am thinking of overhauling and resurrecting the NPR school sometime soon. I see you are listed as a trainer over there. Could you check your listing on the trainer list to make sure that it is accurate, or remove the listing if you no longer wish to be a trainer. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 23:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Insertcleverphrasehere: Information is accurate. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 07:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

August GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors August 2018 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part. Our June blitz focused on Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are here. The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the August blitz! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Eudokia Komnene (daughter of Isaac Komnenos)

A tag has been placed on Eudokia Komnene (daughter of Isaac Komnenos) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Wrong use of a redirect: redirects are not to be used in lieu of articles for individuals (especially non-notable ones)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Constantine ✍ 17:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikisource

On 22 July 2018 you made a sequence of edits (usually referred to as an "edit") to the article Maurice (emperor).

There are a number of specialised templates that make linking to an article on Wikisource easier. They usually do this by placing a wrapper around standard template like {{cite encyclopedia}} (I have a none definitive list of them in User:PBS/Notes#List of PD Templates). These templates only support a limited number of standard parameters and often have specialised ones. Any additional parameters are not usually passed through to the standard templates and additional parameters often place an article into a category bucket. In the case of {{EB1911}} into Category:Pages using EB1911 with unknown parameters which is how I noticed your edit to the article Maurice (emperor).

It would help if you could read the documentation for {{cite EB1911}} {{EB1911}} as that will explain how these templates work. It will also familiarise you with what parameters are available. If you look at my recent sequence of edits to the article. You will see three other points.

1. If there is a mixture of cs1 ({{cite book}} family of templates) and cs2 ({{citation}}) there is a difference in how the delimiters between parameters are displayed and some other alteration see Help:CS2. So either add mode=cs1 to the {{citation}} templates or mode=cs2 to the {{cite book}} family of templates. If mode=cs2 is adopted there is no need for the ref=harv parameter as it is the default in CS2.
2. You changed defence to defense. This was a violation of WP:ENGVAR. It also introduced inconsistencies as defence was also used in two other places in the article.
3. You removed a parameter short=x If you had read the {{cite EB1911}} you would have seen that short=x was serving a valid purpose (it removes some of the verbose details used in citations, but not needed in the other appendices and ought not to have been removed.
4. I altered one template from {{Cite journal}} (not sure why that was used instead of {{cite book}}) to {{Cite CE1913}}. It is a good example of how the wrapper templates simplifies adding a citation to a Wikipedia source and simultaneously use the advise at Help talk:Interwiki linking.

-- PBS (talk) 10:02, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Isaac Komnenos (son of Alexios I)

The article Isaac Komnenos (son of Alexios I) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Isaac Komnenos (son of Alexios I) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Theophylact (son of Michael I)

The article Theophylact (son of Michael I) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Theophylact (son of Michael I) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KAVEBEAR -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Type 1934 destroyers

G'day Iazyges, I just wanted to encourage you to nominate one of your Milhist A-Class articles for FAC. This one seems like a good one to have a crack at. Maybe you could co-nom it with Sturm if it would be your first one? Anyway, have a think about it? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:07, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Peacemaker67: I'll look into it; I currently have an FAC for Tetricus I running, but I'll see about running it next. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Isaac I Komnenos

Hi Iazyges. GA review. On 10 August Constantine finally finished and cleared you to carry on the assessment. You have just put the assessment on hold. Without, so far as I can see, giving me any actions to do. Am I missing something? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Gog the Mild: Apologies, I have it on my current review todo, but forgot to change the actual status on the talk page. I'll get around to it ASAP. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:58, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem. I wasn't nagging, just puzzled. Take your time. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Iazyges, that was a prompt review. Many thanks. All of your suggestions addressed and all bar one implemented. Comments on the GAN talk page. Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Kaʻiminaʻauao

Do you mind reviewing Kaʻiminaʻauao when ever you are ready? It has similar sources and prose as Talk:Leleiohoku II/GA1 which you have started. Do what you can. Thanks. KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

If you don’t mind, can you also look at Kalākaua? Thanks.KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Let me know when you can finish that one soon. Thanks. I went ahead and reviewed Tetricus I. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

@KAVEBEAR: should be able to do it once I get home. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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Marcian

Hello Iazyges. I don't know what source you used to quote Aspar's words, but if you used Lee, it's "through" not "by". Cheers.--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 04:22, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

And the article needs to mention the Armenian embassy that happened in the beginning of Marcian's rule.--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 04:40, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Theodemir, Valamir and Videmir made part of the Battle of Nedao mentioned on the articles and they were the rulers of the Ostrogoths that Marcian settled in Pannonia. And in 456, Marcian made a campaign against Gubazes I of Lazica.--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 04:47, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Renato de carvalho ferreira: what sources do you have for the armenian embassy, the theodemir, valamir, videmir part, and the Lazica campaign? I'm more than willing for the info to be added to the article (I do not have access to whichever source you are pulling from), but I need the sourcing information for it to do so. Also I need the page number, year, and ISBN of the Phosphography you are citing (presumably one of the five "big" Phosphographies.) for this edit. Thanks! Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 15:39, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello! Well, the officers I put on the article are mentioned in the second volume of the Prosopography, on the entry about the emperor Marcian (pp. 714-715). About the other points:

• On the Portuguese version of the article I put all necessary information about the Armenian embassy in the first paragraph of the subsection "Conflito com os hunos" (Em 450, o naxarar Bardanes II Mamicônio [...]). I don't know if you understand Portuguese. If not, you can try to understand what it is in the French version of the same topic on fr:Hmayeak Mamikonian. It's one of the Armenians who went to Constantinople asking support for the Armenian revolt Vardan II Mamikonian was preparing against the Sasanian Empire. The idea was ask for Theodosius' support, but he died in the middle of the embassy and Marcian decided not involve himself on a war against the Persians. On the second volume of the Prosography (pp. 85-46), it's mentioned on the Anatolius entry that he and Florentius convinced Marcian not to make war against Persia.
•  Done
• About the Ostrogoths' brothers. Our Portuguese version mention the same thing. It's on the same section of the previous information, but in the end ([...] os ostrogodos liderados pelos irmãos). Wolfram (1990, p. 258 and 261) and the Prosopography (1980, p. 138) mention it.
•  Done
• About the Lazica's campaign, you can verify the Portuguese text on the subsection "Outros conflitos" ([...] Cerca de 456, Gubazes I (ca. 456–468) [...]) or verify the English version of Gubazes' article that I linked here.

I think it's all. Cheers!--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 23:17, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Renato de carvalho ferreira: I have added the information. Many thanks! Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 01:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I forgot to mention. You can also add some buildings about him ou named after him. There was an statue of his in the Forum of Arcadius and there still stands the Column of Marcian in Istanbul; this column was made for Tatianus, the same officer that helped him in Lycia years before. The Patria of Constantinople mentions him as a possible sponsor of the Chrysotriklinos of the Great Palace of Constantinopla; Souda mentions Justin I. There is a little paragraph about it in the Portuguese version: "No Fórum de Arcádio, em Constantinopla, [...]" You can try to translate and I correct the spelling if necessary. Cheers!--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 02:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done

About Tetricus I, you need to mention his consulships. He was consul three times in 271, 272 e 273 and we do not know his colleagues. On the Prosopography (I, p. 1041) there are the Fasti Consulari.--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done

• @Renato de carvalho ferreira: Done. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 15:41, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

New

Hello once again. I reviewed the Portuguese version of Tiberius (son of Constans II) and Heraclius (son of Constans II) using your last editions on the articles. Both are really fine, but both of them use Canduci in a substancial part of the last paragraph ("Throughout all this, Tiberius was kept under [...]") and it's not a reliable source. I searched that information on other sources, and I found nothing. I removed that part and added relevant information based on their PMBZ's profiles. Maybe you should read that. I also changed Norwich, another source not so good, for Stratos. Maybe you should see that too.--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 07:31, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@Renato de carvalho ferreira: Done. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eucherius (son of Stilicho)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Eucherius (son of Stilicho) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 23:21, 30 August 2018 (UTC)