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Thank You! ;)

Thanks for the info! I really appreciate it. Please tell me if you notice me messing something up; I'd really rather not do anything stupid. A pyrate's life for me... 15:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Thanks. :) Lara❤Love 12:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Genres

I know it says aim for generality, but that can be taken in different ways. If you generalized the infobox genres as you did, Yellowcard, Panic! at the Disco, Sum 41, Linkin Park, and many other articles would just have rock in the infobox, even though they are a very diverse list of bands. It would be best to have something more specific than just "Rock" in the infobox. Just because Template:Infobox Musical artist says "aim for generality" doesn't mean you put the most general term possible. It would just group hundreds of bands into the same exact genre, and that's why most other band articles have subgenres listed in the infobox - to more easily tell them apart. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 15:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The Joy of Sect

Hi, I've noticed that you've copyedited quite a few articles relating to The Simpsons, and I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at The Joy of Sect. One user thinks it is ready for an FAC, but I think it needs more content first. Either way, would you mind taking a look at the page? Thanks Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. Do you think it is of FA quality, or should we keep looking for more possible content? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 20:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Blind Ambition (Family Guy)

I detected a hint of sarcasm there. Yes, I've reviewed plenty of articles. An article in violation of WP:RS is not a good article. Alientraveller 17:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I see someone really finds it hard to assume good faith and I understand the criteria pretty well. One doesn't need to act like a beauracrat to review articles: I don't need a fancy box-tick list. Brevity is absolutely fine if you explain your points clearly. Good day. Alientraveller 19:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Alientraveller, you did not mention a single area of the good article criteria, you simply whipped it off in a few minutes, I think the correct thing you should have done was put it on hold, and addressed the issue by 1) Leaving a note on the article talk page, 2) Leaving a note on my talk page. Instantly failing an article is bad judgement on your part, just because of one or two minor errors. I am in serious doubt of your ability to review articles correctly, and your speedy failure of Doomsday (Doctor Who) which you failed 4 minutes later, not even near enough time to properly read through and check the criteria. It is being listed at WP:GAR. Please refrain from reviewing good articles, if your attitude will just be to qickly whip them off, people spend a long amount of time working on these article, and you just instantly failing it for something so petty as you believing "Guest stars are a bad way for the lead" is an insult to one's reputation, I suggest you step back, and think about the consequences your actions may have in the future. Qst 21:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Leads can be rewritten in a matter of minutes. If that's the only issue, a hold is more than called for. Any issues that could reasonably be fixed in a week or less warrant a hold. If there were other issues, they should have all been listed. The point of GA reviews is not only to see if the article in its current state meets the requirements, but also to detail what changes need to be made in order to bring it up to standards should it not. Lara❤Love 04:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Re. RFA watchlist

Hello Lara. Thanks for your report, I have now updated my RFA subpage accordingly. I haven't been editing Wikipedia as much as I used to, so I'm not always aware of what's going on. I almost feel like a newbie. :-) By the way, I added you to my RFA page long ago, I wonder if it's about time to review your contributions and maybe offer to nominate? You probably have received a few nomination offers already. :-) Tell me what do you think. Best regards, Húsönd 02:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Thanks for your support with respect to my request for adminship, which successfully closed today with a count of 47 support, 1 oppose. If you ever see me doing anything that makes you less than pleased that you supported my request, I hope to hear about it from you. See you around Wikipedia! Accounting4Taste 05:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

MSN

Hey Lara, I haven't seen you online much of late...you still around? — H₂O —  08:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You trippin' buddy? Haha. Look at my edit count. I've been online pretty much every day. On Yahoo too. ? Lara❤Love 12:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I must be trippin. *shrugz* — H₂O —  01:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

GlassCobra's RfA

		My RFA
		Hey Lara! I wanted to drop you a line to thank you for your support in my request for adminship, which ended with 61 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I also wanted to wish you luck in your RfA, and I fully expect you to see you joining the admin ranks in a few days! I hope your confidence in me proves to be justified, and please feel free to call on me if you ever need any backup or second opinions! GlassCobra 01:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Henrik's RfA thanks!

Thanks for supporting my RfA, it closed today with a final tally of 39 supports, 1 oppose and 1 neutral. As always, if you ever see me doing anything which would cause you to regret giving me your support, let me know. henrik•talk 19:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you bunches!

Thank you so much for suppporting my RfA. I was promoted with a total of (44/1/0) - a vote of confidence from the community that I find humbling and motivating. I will not abuse your trust. Look forward to working with you! (Esprit15d 21:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC))

Rememberance Day

OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 05:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Rfa talk

Thanks. Bearian 14:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lara❤Love 14:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Specific anchoring to page locations

Hi Lara! Yes, the way you can link to specific places in an article is pretty simple in the old html only days (when I started writing code) you had to use <a name="lorem ipsum" /> but since the anchor type tag is disabled in wikimedia, you have to use <span id="lorem ipsum" /> and by using this ID, it means you can link to the spot by using Foo#lorem ipsum. Another way you can do this is to use the {{Anchors}} template, which can be hidden into a header line, or embedded anywhere within an article. I hope this helps! --lincalinca 21:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RfA

Hello Lara, thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. I'll talk to you more about this on MSN, ok? Have a great day. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 04:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

No one expects a Pigman admin!

		Wallowing in my RfA: This time it's personal...
		My sincere thanks for your support in my request for adminship, which ended with 51 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutral. Doubtless it was an error to put one of the government-bred race of pigmen in any position of authority, but I hope your confidence in me proves justified. Even a man pure of heart and who says his prayers at night can become a were-boar when the moon is full and sweet. Fortunately, I'm neither a were-pig nor pure of heart so this doesn't appear to be an imminent danger to Wikipedia for the moment. Fortunate as well because were-pig hooves are hell on keyboards and none too dexterous with computer mice. If ever I should offend, act uncivil, misstep, overstep, annoy, violate policy, or attempt to topple the fascist leadership of Wikipedia, please let me know so I can improve my behaviour and/or my aim. I am not an animal; I am an admin. And, of course, if there is any way in which I can help you on Wikipedia, please do not hesitate to ask me. Despite my japes, I am indeed dedicated to protecting and serving Wikipedia to the best of my foppish and impudent abilities. I will strive to be an admirable admin, shiny and cool, reasonable and beatific. Pigmanwhat?/trail 05:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC) Post Scriptum: I believe my collaged graphic at left, which incorporates the WP globe and mop image, falls under the rubric of parody for my purposes here. Or is it satire? Regardless, it's a legitimate and legally protected First Amendment usage under US law. Complaints and allegations that this is an improper "fair use" image will be entertained on my talk page, probably with fruit juice, finger food and exotic coffees.

Re. RFA watchlist

Heh, I know it's up. See support #43. :-) Good luck. Best regards, Húsönd 16:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, duh. Haha. Thanks. Lara❤Love 18:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

re:sad news

Why no GA reviews anymore? VanTucky ^Talk 20:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not that I'm not doing any anymore. I've just stepped back. I was burned out after doing so many this summer (most being quality reviews for the drive), and I was overly invested in the project, overly attached. Needed to pull away and do some other stuff. So I've been working on some articles that I'd had on my to-do list. Elvis, for example. Wrote an article with Jayron, took it through DYK and GA. Just spending time on things that I'd been putting off. Although, I did a review the other day by request, so I'm still around. I'll still do reviews on occasion, I'm still getting requests on an almost daily basis between IRC and my talk page. It's just a matter of what else I've got going on and what looks interesting to me, ya know? Thanks for your message. :) Lara❤Love 20:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm just happy to hear you've found something fun to do (and that I'll still see ya around GA a little). I know what you mean though. I took a break after a dozen+ reviews one day and just cracked out an article. It feels good to take a break. By the way: how hilariously coincidental that we both conceded to being nominated for RFA in the same period. All the best, VanTucky ^Talk 03:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Writing Hogettes and taking it to GA was amazing. An extremely enjoyable experience. Jayron is a joy to work with, a brilliant mind, so it was a lot of fun. And, in that it was done so quickly, very satisfying. As for our RfAs, very true. I've been turning it down for months. And this seems to be the week of GA. Ohana ran, unfortunately his turned at the end (let's hope mine done not), then mine, yours, and G'guys. I'm sure there are more planned. Admins are flocking to RfA with their noms over the anon creation enabling. Lara❤Love 03:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Some thankyou spam, glorious spam

Thankyou for supporting my successful rfa which closed with 58 supports. If i am honest i am rather humbled by the unanimous support and i hope to live up to everyones expectations. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Good luck on your RFA, not long now! Thanks again. Woodym555 15:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Completely changing the subject

but if you replace the current code of {{User:LaraLove/title}} with:

<div id="title-override" class="topicon" style="float: left; position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0px; width: 100%; padding-top: 5px; display:none"><div style="background: {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|white|#F8FCFF}}; font-size: 100%; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.1em; position:relative; left:0.5em;"><br><span style="font-family:tahoma">'''[[User:LaraLove|<font color="BA55D3" size=5>Lara</font>]]'''[[User:LaraLove/My heart|<font color="00CED1" size=5>❤</font>]]'''[[User talk:LaraLove|<font color="FF1493" size=5>Love</font>]]'''<br><br></span></div></div>

it'll force it to override the page title completely (as opposed to the current version where your header and the Wikipedia-style title are side by side) - see my userpage or talkpage for an idea of how it looks. — iridescent 16:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

You're wonderful. Thank you. :) Lara❤Love 16:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't thank me, thank this vandal — who's obviously a cut above the usual "Eric is a faggit" level — for showing me how. — iridescent 16:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice. Very impressive. Lara❤Love 16:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:NFCC#9

Hi, Jamesontai. In regards to your addition of a fair use image in Template:FloridaTechTemplate, templates cannot contain fair use images per WP:NFCC#9. If a free version can be obtained or created, that would be appropriate for use in the template. Regards, Lara❤Love 18:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

In regards to this image, I am following the precedence set by the University of Florida. Please refer to Template:University of Florida and their use of a non-free image. Its copyright information should be the same as the Florida Institute of Technology logo. Free image will not be possible since the image is copyrighted by the university, but the version I am using came out of the University Publications office of Florida Tech. Please advise. Thanks. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Flying Scot

Lara, you kidding me? A logo is perfectly good to keep in wikipedia. It is totally fair use, like totally. I mean if Image:Office2007Logo.png is legit, then the flying scot class flag should be too. Right? What do I got to say to be good enough? write back girl. Minnesota1 08:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:NFCC#9 reads that fair use images are allowed only in the article name space, which does not include templates. Lara❤Love 16:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

After your RfA is successful...

When I was looking into your contributions with respect to your RfA, I was impressed by your comments and assessments on articles. You seem to have a good editorial eye for what needs to happen to bring an article into clarity and focus. I recognize by reading above that you aren't currently taking on tasks connected with Good Article Review; what I'm hoping for, though, may be simpler. I would be interested in your comments on a couple of pages with which I've been involved; Ellery Queen and Philo Vance. I confess I have an ulterior motive with respect to Philo Vance -- I think a version that I had more to do with was overwritten a few revisions ago was better, and I am hoping for an expert eye to tell me what's what. Ellery Queen, I think, stands on its own as a child of many parents. I don't think either article is close to being Good, but I'd like to improve them if I can. And if your time doesn't permit that kind of favour, I will certainly understand. Thanks in advance for kindly considering this, regardless of your decision. Accounting4Taste 02:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

LOTD proposal

You either voted on the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2004

Hi, sorry, I have read your bit at the top so feel free to ignore this comment, but 2 infinities ago, you said you would help me work on this article. Thanks anyways F9T 08:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I assume you've seen this:

[1] Thought you would like to if you hadn't. Oh, and congrats on the adminship! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I saw the link, but hadn't yet clicked it. I'm adding that to my gallery. Lara❤Love 07:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey mop grrrl, waddaya gonna do?

I'll send you an email, but look at this editor's contribs including esp. reverting two of mine; read the article itself, and I ask you in your adminliness wisdom, waddaya gonna do? --Ling.Nut 13:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Nothing at the moment. Edit summaries are not the appropriate place for discussion, Ling. You know that. He needs to be appropriately warned. I dropped a welcome template on his talk page. Hopefully he'll browse the links. If you feel so inclined, perhaps make some changes yourself. That article is a mess. Written very editorially. Thanks for the heads up tho. I'll be watching. Lara❤Love 16:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit sumaries: Yeah, after I went to bed I thought that a newbie wouldn't notice. Later. --Ling.Nut 00:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Editing of Negima characters

Please check my edits. I'm am not vandalising and am making edits in good faith in order to cut down on the level of fancruft and repetition in the article. John Kingston 213.83.99.5 14:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that it is useful to include every known minor fact and theory about each character and I really don't think that the entire plot of the last ten issues needs to be included in the description every character that was involved. I understand that you think my pruning was was over enthusiastic, but I don't think it amounts to vandalism and it definitely wasn't willful vandalism. John Kingston 213.83.99.5 15:09, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. John 213.83.99.5 15:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Seattle FAR

Would you mind taking another look at Seattle to see if it's passed FAR? We're not sure what the process is for closing one of these. Thanks. --Lukobe 03:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

My Userpage

Someone vandalized my userpage today. Interesting. I was under the impression it was fully protected. the_undertow ^talk 06:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

If you voted in my RFA...

...thank you for your participation. I withdrew with 83 supports, 42 opposes, and 8 neutrals. Your kind words and constructive criticism are very much appreciated. I look forward to using the knowledge I have accrued through the process to better the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers and Wikidudeman for their co-nominations.

Thank you again and, best regards. VanTucky ^Talk

This RFA thanks was inspired by Lara❤Love's

My RfA

Hey Lara, thanks for referring to me as a "strong editor" in my successful RfA. I'm humbled to have the community's trust. As I master the ways of the mop and bucket, please don't hesitate to message me for any advice or corrections. Cheers! Spellcast 23:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Ehem

*cough* co.. *cough* heed ;). -- Jack 00:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Take out the album cover (fair use is only acceptable for the article of the album) and fix the cite errors. Otherwise, it looks good. Lara❤Love 00:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

um. The section on fair use says "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)." It doesn't say it can only be used on album pages. The only time album art is specified as unacceptable it says "An album cover as part of a discography, as per the above" which doesn't cover using it part of text which includes critical commentary, as per the above. Am I missing something here? Rehevkor 13:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The tag itself reads, "It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of such covers solely to illustrate the audio recording in question." For use in articles other than those of the album itself, I have only seen it allowed when there is a section that comments in detail about the artwork, which is rare. Lara❤Love 15:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I had just seen them used prolifically in articles before (even featured articles, like Nightwish) as assumed it wouldn't be a problem. Rehevkor 15:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use allowances are tightening up. Things that slipped by before don't really slip by anymore. Lara❤Love 15:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Mint slices

Would you mind deleting please, thanks. Tiptoety 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, it has been deleted. Thank you. Tiptoety 05:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I clicked to delete it and got an error that said it had already been deleted! :) Lara❤Love 05:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

So close! :) Tiptoety 05:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

RFPP

I see you might be active right now so I would like to point out a protection request for may talk page that I've just added. If you are around right now, and could "expedite" it I'd appreciate it. - Rjd0060 06:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Problem taken care of. Thanks. Rjd0060 06:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I had just logged off for some sleep. Lara❤Love 12:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

RFPP Chris Eubank

I'm disapointed in your response to the request for protection of this page. Firstly, how do I warn someone who never has the same IP twice other than by using discussion? Secondly, how can I revert without getting myself banned for 3rr? Its not blatant vandalism, but rather sublter page diruption. Its not how often this guy reverts its how persistent he is that is the problem. He has reverted every effort to improve the page FOR MONTHS. It seems that I am the only editor that has not given up on the page but frankly even my patience is wearing thin and a little admin would not go amiss. May I remind you that semi protection is mandated by policy for bio's that are not well watched that are suffering at the hands of vandals or POV pushing. This appears to me to be a perfect example. --LiamE 14:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was the same vandal but on a dynamic IP. I've protected it for 2 weeks. Lara❤Love 14:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --LiamE 14:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Lara❤Love 14:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Warning IPs

Thanks for your response. Well, frankly I'm rather surprised! I would never have guessed that warning IPs had any effect whatsoever. Anyway, I've done what you suggested. Hopefully that addresses the problem to some extent. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 16:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

re: United States Declaration of Independence semi-protect request

Thank you for the quick and positive response to my request for semi-protection of United States Declaration of Independence. Rklahn 20:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Lara❤Love 20:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Unblock requests

Hi, LaraLove. When reviewing unblock requests, don't forget to remove or disable the user's unblock request when you're done. The easiest way is to simply replace their request with your response, rather than adding an additional replied-to request at the bottom. This ensures the talk pages are removed from Category:Requests for unblock. I usually just replace the template they added with the "unblock reviewed" template.[2] Congrats on your successful RfA! - auburnpilot talk 03:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)