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Anarchist organizations
editYo Jack, just a quick note about Category:Anarchist organizations - it's not generally supposed to be used in articles, but rather to collect its national subcategories. So, Japanese Anarchist Federation for example is properly categorized in Category:Anarchist organizations of Japan, while Anarchist Federation (Britain and Ireland) should be in Category:Anarchist organizations of the United Kingdom and Category:Anarchist organizations of Ireland. For more information on this, see WP:SUBCAT. Cheers, Skomorokh 14:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- This is also true for the Category:Anarchists category. It is not generally applied to articles, but is used to organize more specific categories that are. Kaldari (talk) 16:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Ararchist communists
editWhat's your source for claiming all these people to be anarchist communists? Just curious. Kaldari (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the correct way to reply, so sorry if this doesn't get to you.
The vast majority of anarchists are communists, and if I could remember which ones I put as communist anarchists, I'm sure I could find specific sources. Anarcho-syndicalists are also anarchist communists, but use different tactics (union organization vs political organization used by most non-syndicalist anarchist communists). I added members of large anarcho-syndicalist organizations too that explicitly say they aim for "libertarian communism" (this is in the constitution of the International Workers Association, the anarcho-syndicalist international, for example).
- The two I noticed specifically were Moishe Tokar, which is probably a reasonable assumption, and Gennaro Rubino, which was a bit surprising. What was the reason you marked Rubino as a communist? Kaldari (talk) 02:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Rubino was involved in infiltrating (then siding with) anarchist-communist groups quite obviously because A) Non-communist anarchism had little influence in Europe, and B) The only anarchist organizations were communist. The anarchist press that attacked him was communist as well, and since his action was in many ways an attempt to prove himself to the anarchists who had been active in denouncing him, it can be assumed he was a communist. If I can dig up his trial information, I'm sure I can find things like Ravachol's summary of his beliefs to his prison guards and the courtroom (which were communist, including things like abolishing money).
- That may have been true of Eastern Europe (and perhaps England), but not so much in countries like France, Italy, and Spain, where individualist Anarchism was strongly rooted. Probably the most notable example of the separation being the conflicts between the anarchists and communists immediately following the Spanish Civil War. Unless you have something more specific to point to, I'm inclined to remove the category from Gennaro Rubino's article. Also, the statement that the anarchist press that attacked him was communist isn't completely true either. The only cited example in the article is an American anarchist publication that was definitely not communist. Kaldari (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Your edit inspired me to do some research myself. I looked through the articles about his trial and nothing in them showed a communist influence. Indeed, Rubino seemed to be more anti-authoritarian than class-conscious. I also looked through the Milillo article. Nothing in that article mentions communism and Milillo seems to be of the opinion that Rubino was individualist: (rough translation from Italian) "Was he an anarchist individualist? A character who convinces himself of the necessity of regicide as liberation from a tyranny that had already committed many abuses of power in its political activity and its colonial occupation of the Congo? This seems to be the most authentic version of the event, the one to which Rubino confessed in his inquiry. He claimed, in fact, to have acted alone, without orders, and to be a solitary anarchist." Kaldari (talk) 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- The prescence of "individualism" in Western Europe was much different from those who would refer to themselves as "individualist anarchists" in America or in modern times. If you can't find a source though, i will understand if you remove it.
- Your edit inspired me to do some research myself. I looked through the articles about his trial and nothing in them showed a communist influence. Indeed, Rubino seemed to be more anti-authoritarian than class-conscious. I also looked through the Milillo article. Nothing in that article mentions communism and Milillo seems to be of the opinion that Rubino was individualist: (rough translation from Italian) "Was he an anarchist individualist? A character who convinces himself of the necessity of regicide as liberation from a tyranny that had already committed many abuses of power in its political activity and its colonial occupation of the Congo? This seems to be the most authentic version of the event, the one to which Rubino confessed in his inquiry. He claimed, in fact, to have acted alone, without orders, and to be a solitary anarchist." Kaldari (talk) 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- That may have been true of Eastern Europe (and perhaps England), but not so much in countries like France, Italy, and Spain, where individualist Anarchism was strongly rooted. Probably the most notable example of the separation being the conflicts between the anarchists and communists immediately following the Spanish Civil War. Unless you have something more specific to point to, I'm inclined to remove the category from Gennaro Rubino's article. Also, the statement that the anarchist press that attacked him was communist isn't completely true either. The only cited example in the article is an American anarchist publication that was definitely not communist. Kaldari (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Rubino was involved in infiltrating (then siding with) anarchist-communist groups quite obviously because A) Non-communist anarchism had little influence in Europe, and B) The only anarchist organizations were communist. The anarchist press that attacked him was communist as well, and since his action was in many ways an attempt to prove himself to the anarchists who had been active in denouncing him, it can be assumed he was a communist. If I can dig up his trial information, I'm sure I can find things like Ravachol's summary of his beliefs to his prison guards and the courtroom (which were communist, including things like abolishing money).
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- I tried getting in touch with David Brown of Recollection Books, but no luck. I guess the email address on the Anarchist Encyclopedia site doesn't work anymore. Kaldari (talk) 21:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
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- I messed up on how to cite sources, but that's the only problem with it. I don't see it as vanfalism or unconstructive, I was asked to put how the AKI was notable, so I put some actions they did that make them notable. An explanation on how to cite sources would be helpful.
- Hey there! Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Quick_summary, hope it helps. 2help (message me) 04:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
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