User talk:James Kemp/Archive1

This is an archive of entries on my Talk Page from when I started on Wikipedia (January 2005) until December 2006. Please don't edit it.

re: Dead external links

(cross-posted on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Dead external links)

ooops, no-one even responded to this, so *I* will! Well, that's a good idea, but the problem is the legality of us hosting the information. Beyond linking to the Internet Archive's backups, I really don't know that we can go making copies of something without nasty problems, or at least having to set up a complex legality reasoning page like the Archive has.

The easiest option would be to create a screenshot compilation (say 800x1600) of what the entire page showed and host it off of WP itself. That way the questionable fair use of such a capture would be in the hands of the provider. Or... something... one current idea for Wikiversity is that linked-to sites be archived by WV itself, so I guess when they get their proposal ironed out we could mimic it. Master Thief Garrett^Talk 5 July 2005 21:39 (UTC)

Hi Jim it's Joanna here, just leaving a message on your talk page! --Kevinjoanna 17:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Nineteen Eighty-Four

Wow, thanks for your nice comments James. Like you I have often found that people take 1984 to be an anti-communist novel and when I try to explain that it is about all totalitarianism they find it difficult to believe, as the misinterpretation seems to have become accepted knowledge.

Similarly many people seem to think that Animal Farm is anti-communist, when plainly Orwell has deep sympathies for the animals and animalism. He was still a socialist, the novel was purely a warning about those who would usurp the revolution for their own gains.

Do you have anything of your work on the public perception of 1984 that I might read? - Luca's Ade

Hi, Luca: firstly, I'm not too hot on how to reply to these messages. Should I cross-post to your talk page? How does one go about doing that? I guess I'll reply here and see what happens - if you could reply back and let me know the protocol I'd greatly appreciate it!

Now, to answer your question. This is a bit of a controversial point, but I actually added one of my essays as a reference to the Nineteen Eighty-Four article. I suppose this is kind of breaching rules regarding self-interest, but to be quite honest my essay is the only thing available on the net that served my purpose. It's fully referenced and kind of peer reviewed, in the sense that it was good enough to get me into Graduate School), and is called Hope Begins in the Dark: Re-reading Nineteen Eighty-Four; it's published under the name James Benstead. It is not massively to do with public perception; it is more to do with reading NEF in a more positive/optimistic way; but it does carry a bit of material that would be of use and a number of references that would be of more use (in particular, I think Stonor Saunders' book Who Paid the Piper?: The CIA and the Cultural Cold War would be of use. My essay isn't brilliant, but it does summarise a lot of other people's interesting ideas. I keep meaning to re-write it and publish it "properly", but other stuff (like the 8,000 words I currently have to write for my Master's) keeps getting in the way! I would be interested in hearing what you thought of it, and also your opinion on whether it should be a reference in the NEF article at all... --James Kemp 22:59, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Freud article test

Thanks for experimenting with the page Sigmund Freud on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Jkelly 00:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

You might enjoy Uncyclopedia. Jkelly 00:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Abu Ghraib

Thanks for the support about the warning and image free page on Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. It seems at least one other person has a little sense. Thanks. Chuck 02:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thornfield Properties

Thornfield Properties has been proposed for deletion. Please see WP:CORP for the relevant guidelines. NickelShoe 21:33, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Village pump suggestion

I'm glad you liked my suggestion! It was an idea I had at the moment... Sorry for the late answer! Fetofs ^Hello! 00:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Novels worklist

Thanks for coming back, I tend to suggest that the most desired novel articles are loaded into the worklist. If we put "too" many the efforts of everyone will be diluted and nothing will get done. If you see my point. By all means add them by just bear that in mind. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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Larrabeiti articles on WikiProject

No problem, do you think you have had any interest in them. Anyone doing any edits etc. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 07:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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Pele goals

If you do a diff you can see what I wrote :) Basically the first four competitions in the columns are all league competitions and the Taca de Prata evolved from the RSPS. I think a note should also be left saying something along the lines of: "Santos did play other competitive games during this period, for example the Taça dos Campeões Estaduais [1], the 1968 Campeonato Nacional [2] and the Intercontinental Cup [3]. However it can be extremely difficult to quantify which were truely competitive, and which were merely friendly tournaments.. blah..."

It might be an idea to add an "Others" column to the end to stick a few of these results into, and which can be added to upon new infomation. The Intercontinental Cup should definitely be recognised. Admittedly it's probably only a handful of games, but still. aLii 10:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Rivelino

Hi Jim! I got the Rivelino information from the Corinthians Almanac(an actual book). His club did not play international games at the time, so my mission was easier. I got the information for Fluminense from hthe club website; and the international games from the RSSF Brasil.

There was not a proper Brazilian league until 71, so it is generally accepted that the "Rio Sao Paulo" and "Copa Brasil" are considered as domestic leagues. Besides that, the regional championship (Paulista for Corinthians, Carioca for Fluminense) are played officialy in the beginning of the year). I do not see any problem in using the same criteria for Pelé.

Good luck!! Stellatomailing 03:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jim,

I think your best bet is http://paginas.terra.com.br/esporte/rsssfbrasil/historical.htm#competnac.

About the 1000+ gols from Pelé, they take into consideration EVERY goal he ever made; even games when he played in the army. I will see if I can find it.

Stellatomailing 12:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Jim, the story about Pelé's goals is about improving his image, but not as a conspiracy theory of sorts, just art of the media circus. Actually, people do not see anything wrong with that or care that much; you can see the same thing happening now trying to get Romario to 1000 goals.

If I remember well, there is about 11 goals in the army, plus 60 in Cosmos.

About

• Campeonato Paulista
• Torneio Rio-São Paulo
• Taça de Prata
• Taça Brasil
• Campeonato Brasileiro

Brasil is a big country, and travel was very difficult, so the games were played regionally. Many teams to today cannot afford to travel all across the country to play, and play the regional competitions to qualify to the third division.

The strongest regional leagues were Sao Paulo (Paulista) and Rio (carioca). Think abouth those championships like the European Cup or Copa America are to the World cup.Stellatomailing 13:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Jim, no worries. I was just trying to clarify. Back to the record - there was an article published in Folha_de_S._Paulo on May 14, 1995 that details all the goals. I am trying to find it. Stellatomailing 13:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

No luck with the article. They have everything but. We need to find the book ISBN 0743275829; it has supposedly all the goals from his career. Somebody from Sao Paulo, Brazil may help.

Stellatomailing 17:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

It was an article published in Folha_de_S._Paulo on May 14, 1995 in a special supplement, four pages. It has all the goals recounted up to the number 1,000; The book from Orlando Duarte has all the goals, in editions after 1996. No matter the promotional reasons, at least you can *choose* what to count.

Stellatomailing 17:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

666

Wow. You are evil, making the 666th edit. If wikipedia is a credible source, Ronald Regan was also evil, because his house number was originally 666. Rintrah 15:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Rv on Pele article

Did you revert my change to the Pele article because you thought I had restored the copvio picture? I didn't restore the copyvio picture, I restored an older picture than used to be on the page. Granted, this second picture is the subject of unknown provenance but it is not copyvio as far as I know. Could you restore my edit if you were mistaken? If you weren't, and were removing my edit as per policy (perhaps because the picture's dubious provenance means it cannot be in the article), then please accept my apologies. --Jim (Talk) 20:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

We should avoid the unsourced image. We have free imgages available for this person. You may want to pick up one yourself at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pel%C3%A9 . Just leave me a note if you need some help. Best regards, --Abu Badali 20:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC) --Abu Badali 20:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Burns stanza

Hi. I've redirected the article you started on Burns Stanza to Habbie stanza as they are the same thing. I've merged some information in from your article, but I am not familiar with Scottish poetry so you may want to check the whole thing over and do some additional edits. Cheers! -- Whpq 13:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

As I said, I'm not familiar with Scottish poetry, so I don't know which phrase is more prevalent. So if the term Burns stanza is more prevalent then perhaps it should hold the article content. Based on your user page, you seem emminently qualified to make that jusdgement. I added the redirect as I was concerned about it being a duplicate. -- Whpq 14:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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Fenerbahçe

Hi. The estimated number of Fenerbahçe supporters all over the world is 25 million as stated in the article sports club, not 25,000. Page Up 01:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

smells like teen spirit

do you even know what you're doing? 67.172.61.222 02:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

ATM page

Hey, what I wrote about ATM was true, why did you edit it?

Whether it's true or not is a somewhat subjective matter - you're talking shit. Jim (Talk) 02:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC).

ABBA page

Your "right" reversal doesn't include several previous parts of the article (before ABBA, before Eurovision). There's also a part about Beatles (???) in the Introduction...

Scholar91 03:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Scholar91

That's kinda weird - I know I messed it up the first time, but I'm pretty sure I got it right the second time, about one minute later and way before the time of your message... --Jim (Talk) 02:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Craig-Morgan

I've semi-protected the Craig-Morgan page, which should keep the roving-IPs in line. Bucketsofg✐ 02:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello James Kemp. I want to thank you for reverting the anonymous users comments on my userpage. The constant change in their IP address made it difficult to contact them and explain the need for verifiability in their edits. Realizing that they might be trying to enter correct information I took a different tack on checking their facts and I have written a new comment on the Craig-Morgan discussion page about what I found. As a wikignome I am not one who likes to get into an edit conflict and I know that, in the grand scheme of things, this specific article is only a small part of Wikipedia. But, I am also proud of what Wikipedia is trying to accomplish and if this editor can provide reliable sources I will be as happy as anyone else to see the article changed and improved. I was in Edinburgh many years ago and have many fond memories of how special a place it is. Good luck on your Masters and thanks again.MarnetteD | Talk 13:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Well the user has signed up to get around the semi-protect. The user still does not provide any sources. I propose a compromise wherein we list the shows that IMDb agrees with, but not the ones that the user claims are for another R C-M or the ones the user claims to be in that aren't verifiable. Also, the users edits don't completely reach the MoS requirements. Is there any way to get the user to try to understand that what they enter should look a little less sloppy than it does.MarnetteD | Talk 08:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again James and thanks for your suggestions. I wnet looking in another direction to get to the root of there being two different actors and found this [[4]] and this[[5]] which I think helps back up an important part of his story. I am not sure he will take suggestions from me in good stead, since I have made the mistake of making a mountin out of a molehill with his article. I find that each step, and misstep, along the way here at WikiP is an interesting learning experience. Thanks, again, for your help.MarnetteD | Talk 20:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Blocked?

Hi, Jim. Please read what I wrote at User talk:Sango123#Reply; it seems you've been hit with an autoblock. Please contact me with the IP or username reported in your block message, and I'll override it, as I've done with several others today. Thanks, Sango123 01:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, that's odd. In any case, the autoblock should no longer be in effect; try editing again. Thanks, Sango123 01:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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Congress Campaign

Post it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. alphaChimp ^laudare 22:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Biographies of living people, please, please do not make edits like this. Unsourced content such as that needs to be removed from the article, not reverted back in. Jkelly 23:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hm. Do we know anything about American Reporter? Is there any kind of editorial oversight there? It claims to be an online newspaper, but what exactly separates it from a blog? I guess that my answer to you is "I don't know", as I'm not sure whether this is a reliable source or not. I don't think the fact that it can only be found by Google cache is of much importance. I suggest taking it to Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons. Jkelly 23:43, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I would bet money that the closer we get to November, the more of this kind of thing we are going to see. I'm not sure that we are well prepared for it. Jkelly 23:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I think every one of those are good ideas. Jkelly 00:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections%2C_2006

http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections%2C_2006

Jkelly 00:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser. I've never used it, but it is popular. Thanks for taking this on, by the way. I doubt that it will be a lot of fun, but I suspect that it will turn out to be quite useful (assuming that we hit a point when we need to get some coordinated watching of these pages done, which I strongly suspect will be the case). Jkelly 01:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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