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Thank you

Thank you for your advises and comments. I request you to put those points which you think are required. Moreover, I added certain theories of origin which are popular and leaving it to readers and researchers to find reality. I wil learn more from your editing.ScholarM (talk) 18:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi scholarM thank you, yeah I would have added in my comments and remarks but unfortunately the page is locked to extended users only who have more than 500 edits, although unfortunately for some reason the administrators with regards to the ‘arain’ page seem to be very anti-arain and this has been mentioned in the talk page aswell, as each time an Arab theory is added the administrators are settled in that they would delete it, as such as they have done With your edition. Perhaps the page heading should be changed to ‘anti-arain’ lol. And I believe the administrators are from a different caste for themselves and hence they don’t understand the sensitivity of the issue and hence why it is probably locked due to edit warring. But unfortunately these administrators are 1 sided with support for any Indian or rajput theory towards the arains, which is absurd Janejo59 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, I have certainly not expressed my personal opinions about the subject, But rather I feel that, administrators or extended users are trying to express there opinion on the page and any research which does not support the adminstrators personal view is blocked by highlighting Wikipedia rules which are not relevant in that instance. so Iam sorry, but some administrators with more authority are mis-using there rights to stop others in adding there research with references, such as the ‘arain’ page, and the sensitivity on such matters as ‘caste’ is not being appreciated with balanced views and with various references given!!! Janejo59 (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I am not an administrator. That page is protected for newish users because they don't fully understand the policies of Wikipedia. Until you do, your best bet is to convince us about whatever it is you want to say. And, what you say better be backed by reliable sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Abuse of multiple accounts

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Unblock| I don’t accept the accusation

I have submitted an appeal before but lost my tracking address. However I will mention my reason again I have been blocked for having multiple accounts and have been accused of stock pupping what ever you call it, however I certainly do not accept this as I have other family members editing from 1 device and Wikipedia has failed to consider this, apart from this evidence which I have got is that, if one was to look at my contributions that I have made I have not abused any pages I.e. that is to say made random jokes on personalities or entries, and have tried my best to make references were appropriate. Instead there was one particular talk page where all my family wanted to contribute in what they had to say and they had there own accounts and we had used 1 device, but for some reason Wikipedia has not considered this. However the only thing that I can do is to ensure that from now on making sure my family have other means/devices to make there own contributions/says to avoid confusion and further accusations. But all in all I do not accept this accusation of mis-using multiple accounts and neither do I have enough time to make multiple accounts for edit warring. Many thanks hope to hear from you soon. Best wishes. But adding to this note I would say that certain extended users are hogging some pages and not letting other users who are adding Legit findings with relevant references to contribute, and are instead trying to impose there own views and accusing others from adding there findings. Janejo59 (talk) 03:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

..."there was one particular talk page where all my family wanted to contribute in what they had to say and they had there own accounts and we had used 1 device". That's literally why I blocked you. Whether you created the accounts yourself or roped your family into supporting you in the same disruptive fashion is irrelevant.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 03:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Now I didn’t say that I roped my family into supporting me did I? And I have just said that I did not create the others accounts. I simply said we used 1 device, the only thing I can do is to make sure they buy and use there own devices from now, but if you want to create a whole scene over it, that I had set up some sort of major plot then feel free to carry out a crime investigation and we can have a defendant and the plaintiff in place, because I seriously don’t think any one has enough time to create multiple accounts, to quarrel with others over wiki, I have Facebook and watts app for that. Many thanks. Janejo59 (talk) 04:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Still sounds like coordinating edits outside the project. No matter how you slice or rephrase it. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 10:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Don’t know what you mean by that budd, ‘coordinating edits outside the project’. Nice and simple words, Iam just being accused for different users using 1 advice, I don’t have any solution to this, but to make sure from now on, for any other user to buy and use there own device kushti. apart from this do you want me to dance for you, or buy you a sandwich or something. Janejo59 (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

What does "your tracking address" mean, above? I don't know what that is. You have not submitted an appeal on this page; perhaps you should do that. It's obvious from the above that your family would still be your meatpuppets even if they buy new devices. But you should not go to the expense of buying new hardware, in my opinion, because the way you talk — such as "I believe the administrators are from a different caste" — you're highly unlikely to be unblocked in any case. Guess how many times we've heard that accusation, from caste warriors who assume everybody on Wikipedia is from some caste. Actually, administrators, like other users, come from around the world. Ponyo, unless the user submits an actual unblock request soon, it's perhaps time to revoke their access to venting and scolding on this talkpage? Bishonen | tålk 11:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

@Bishonen: I think the "tracking number" is related to the new UTRS set up, which I'm avoiding altogether right now because it's become 10x the pain it previously was to review appeals there. With regard to the excuses presented on this page, it's open and shut as far as the technical evidence goes. I can see the additional accounts being created specifically to support Janejo59 at Talk:Arain (check out the emoticon use at the end of this thread). Given the blatant sock policy violations and the subsequent comments here, the account will not be unblocked outside of a successful Standard Offer. We'll see on the talk page access; if more of the same is posted without an actual appeal made, then I assume tpa will be revoked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bishonen....excuse me, r u even trying to understand in what Iam saying, for god sake, you think the only time I’ve got is to go online Wikipedia and have chitty chats, so u think Iam going to buy new devices for my family and friends, to have a war on wiki!!!! What a joke....regarding certain pages I did not target a specific person or creed, I respect all beings, what I was trying to say everyone should have the opportunity to contribute there findings with there references no further discussion.......as I have said I have made an appeal and lost the tracking ref as Ponyo has stated...so don’t know what to do next, but hey Iam in no rush...and please stop with the puppet nonsense I do not accept that, Iam not going to keep on repeating myself like some sort of parrot. and please no more of that on this talk page, like I said if you want to create plots in your head then go ahead. Janejo59 (talk) 00:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Also as far as Iam aware this unblock page is for an appeal?..if there is something else that Iam meant to be doing with regards to the appeal then please let me know....I have already stated once that the only solution I have is to make sure anyone who wants to edit on wiki whether a friend or family member etc should use there own device (this does not mean Iam going to buy them devices to access wiki, that’s just crazy, don’t have the finance or time to do that)...dont know else your expecting Janejo59 (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• Your block message I left for your provided clear instructions on how to request an unblock. -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 01:29, 22 May 2020 (UTC)