User talk:Jcc/Archive 7
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altucher link
why are you deleting the yahoo finance link on the altucher page? Cyberwonka (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyberwonka: That's a bit disingenuous. I also personally disagree with his morals but especially since this is a biography of a living person, with a history of extreme COI editing, you'll need more than one Yahoo Finance source (which doesn't explicitly call him out) to back up calling him a "con artist, hustler and flim flam man". jcc (tea and biscuits) 00:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Johnbod - Jcc, many thanks indeed for sorting all that out. Quite beyond my technical powers! I think we've now got a nice Start on an interesting niche topic, and I think others may well help to expand it. Sometime, I shall go and brush up the sourcing. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 18:08, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
scan artist
There are many people on the web who speculate he is not on it. How should I document that on his page here? Cyberwonka (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyberwonka: What you should do is write down your proposed changes, with sources that are reliable (e.g. not self published blogs) on the article talk page, which can be accessed here: Talk:James Altucher. Then another editor can look at the sources, and the information and decide if it breaches WP:BLP policy or not, is worthy of inclusion and not undue. Word of warning- I wouldn't describe him as a "flim-flam man" as you did before. jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:25, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Your comment on Walukuba Estate
Thank you for your comment on my Talk page about Walukuba Estate. I intend to go get pictures soon and add them. I also didn't know - didn't check well enough - that I could create an article without submitting to Articles for Creation. Thanks for letting me know. Cartney23 (talk) 19:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation
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A barnstar for you!
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One of your comments on... a recent Arbcom case... made me giggle. Sarky git ;) -- Thanks, Alfie. talk to me | contribs 02:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC) |
Civility in infobox discussions case opened
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Redundant link in your evidence section
- He uses this to claim that his edit is therefore not bold, and reverts and becomes uncivil when challenged on this point, or edit wars to keep it removed. [1] [2] [3] [4]
- [1] and [2] are the same diff. wbm1058 (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Wbm1058: I've fixed it, thanks! jcc (tea and biscuits) 23:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- [1] and [2] are the same diff. wbm1058 (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Here's 10 people telling Cassianto that BRD doesn't work the way he thinks it does. [1] [2] [3][4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
- [3] is an edit by Casianto. wbm1058 (talk) 01:26, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Wbm1058: Again, thanks! jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- [3] is an edit by Casianto. wbm1058 (talk) 01:26, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Reliable Sources
Which article did I edit that I did not put a reliable source for? Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:13, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Das osmnezz: Over at Rickey Harris you've cited a Wordpress blog, a dead link (that would have led to a self-published fan website), and a forum post, none of which are reliable sources. jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Font draft
Hi Jcc, you reject the draft for font, I am intelligent for fonts. You rejected the review like this one. You search it on Google. --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (Talk to me) 01:05, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyrus noto3at bulaga: No, the onus is on you to "search for it", and cite relevant sources. I find absolutely nothing that demonstrate that this font is notable. jcc (tea and biscuits) 13:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Stagecoach mosaic
Hello. Certainly, I'll get to work on it this week. Cloudbound (talk) 22:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- All done. Cloudbound (talk) 14:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks! jcc (tea and biscuits) 14:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
gwr main photo
Hi
How is the main image awful, when its so small its barely noticeable? Secondly its been up for 28 days, if it had been up for 2 or 3 days and someone changed it I wouldn't have an issue, but its been up for nearly a month, it just seems pointless. I want to revert your re-edit, but I'm guessing that would cause more issues, as the replacement provided is pretty poor itself. To be honest, I think its just better to remove the main image once and for all, the GWR page has a lot of issues with this, mainly childish trainspotters! I am being blunt about this because I fed up with the constant interfering, meddling, and disorganisation on that page, there is plenty of other things that could be fixed, rather than wasting time, and creating talent, on one stupid photo!209.93.106.208 (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- I thought the problem was that you felt it was being changed too regularly? Photos are changed as and when new ones come along, and at the moment GWR are changing the liveries on their trains and introducing new rolling stock, so inevitably there will be changes. I feel like you are taking this change out of all proportion and risk falling into what you claim is happening with the change/revert cycle. I'd recommend that you take a step back, drop the accusations and focus on creating content like you suggest. Sorry for wading in Jcc. Cloudbound (talk) 14:09, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- What Cloudbound said. jcc (tea and biscuits) 14:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
And to respond as before, nothing wrong with the previous image, as for Cloudbound contribution, that's running, the photo before was GWR green IETS, you photo is exactly the same. Its funny that Cloudbound likes to tell me what to do, but when I tell him, he gets confrontational about it. As I said, it will only get changed again, its pathetic, I'm in half a mind to just remove the photo all together, but then I guess you'll claim I'm "vandalising" and get me blocked!! Typical, whatever is alright for you lot can go, whatever others wants, they get screwed over. 194.75.22.48 (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Come on- the photo before clearly isn't the same. It's darker, hard to make out (with poor contrast levels between the trains and the platform structure), fuzzy and as a result does a worse job of illustrating Great Western Railway. Note that I'm all for consistency- here are just some of the instances I've reverted new images that weren't an improvement. Why not create an account?. jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:37, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
At least with that image you could see the gwr logo on the trains, this one you can't and the new photo looks black not green.194.75.22.48 (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Find another one then. WP:BOLD. jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I seem to remember the page used to have a great infobox image of a GWR liveried HST at sunset at the Dawlish sea wall, which looked seriously awesome. I can't seem to find it though. jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- That was this one - File:The perils of the late afternoon sun! by Phil Wakely.jpg. Cloudbound (talk) 22:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Tom Winsor
Hello:
The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Tom Winsor has been completed.
Two things I found I'll draw to your attention. The first is that " and ' were both used around quotations. There was no consistency. I have converted them all to single quotes which complies with the British English tag.
As well, I have left this paragraph from the HM Chief Inspector of the Constabulary section as is.
On 19 December 2013, the Home Office announced its intention to increase HMIC's annual budget by £9.4 million to enable the Inspectorate to carry out annual, in-depth force inspections on core policing matters in every one of the 43 Home Office police forces in England and Wales, in addition to HMIC's programme of thematic inspections (28 such inspections are being carried out in the current inspection year).[146][147] The design of the new inspection programme is being carried out in close consultation and co-operation with the police service, and will lead to an interim all-force assessment in November 2014, with the first full all-force inspection assessment in November 2015.[148]
I suggest you determine what actually transpired and fix the verb tenses accordingly.
Other than that I think the article is in great shape.
Good luck with the GA review.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Regards,
Note
I just wanted to reply to your comment here since I've always thought highly of your opinion, and felt it worth engaging. Yes, I actually agree 100% with you that if someone has a valid need (which moving to draft certainly is) and is trusted, we should go ahead and grant the right. In the case you mentioned, I actually ended up granting the permission myself based on a talk page request a few months later. I think the reason we got tighter recently was because we had a few longterm users get the right and either immediately started to make mistakes closing RMs or who used it to bypass RMs. In one of the cases where it was revoked, it eventually led to an editor retiring. That's a situation we obviously want to avoid, and since it's pretty easy to make a TR I think we started getting stricter (Primefac and I being the two ones who have recently monitored that board the most.) As I said on Alex's talk, if we've overcorrected, that's a fair criticism that needs to be taken into account. I certainly don't like PERM being an interrogation and try to prevent it from being so. My criteria for any right is pretty simple: show you meet the criteria, show you need it, and have it be evident from your contributions where it would be useful. If the community is saying that we should have a less strict standard on the last one, so be it. Anyway, wanted to follow up because you always make such good points . TonyBallioni (talk) 00:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: Thanks for the kind words and the clarification. Re-reading now the comments seem a bit more blunt than I intended- and they definitely weren't meant as a criticism of you, apologies if it seemed that way! jcc (tea and biscuits) 20:12, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
21:06:54, 26 March 2018 review of submission by Agmacq
Hello,
thanks for your note on my submission for Charter School Capital - I have removed a few of the less substantive citations and added several that are more notable, specifically the Portland Business Journal interview with the CEO (not from a press release) and the article from industry publication Charter Schools Today. I appreciate your reconsideration of this submission. Thanks Agmacq (talk) 21:06, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Agmacq (talk) 21:06, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Agmacq: Thanks for your message. Unfortunately I can't see all the sources as some are behind paywalls, but from what I can see, I'm not sure all of them are reliable e.g. cpexecutive; I think it's best another reviewer takes a look at it so I've resubmitted it. jcc (tea and biscuits) 20:15, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Transmed (April 5)
Dear JCC,
First of all thank you so much for your feedback. But I am at a complete loss for now.
Let me start again by explaining as to why I've taken this long winded project on. So we are a bunch of expat Lebanese guys that are working on updating the - Companies of Lebanon - section which we believe is missing a lot of the "new" Lebanese companies. So there is not any conflict of interest as you are led to believe. And if you can take a moment and check the companies listed under the companies of Lebanon section, you can see that most listed ones have similar and even less references than what I currently included in the Transmed draft page submitted. To name a few: Bonjus, Gebran Geahchan & Sons, New Wave Productions, and many more.
And to confirm again, Lebanon is a very small country so whatever listings you might have and the notability standards that you might use a a benchmark, will not fit with any global standards, therefore can I please ask you to take this into consideration and check the current "Lebanon" related brands and businesses listings that are available on Wikipedia and compare my article to those!
In terms of the content that I have used on the page, I have adapted that to all the online articles that I have researched and found, so I guess you are telling me that I need to remove all that and have a simple stub page with a name listing?!
I really am at a loss here as this has been dragging on for too long. And just having a Lebanese company invest in a UK established business - the Quiqup story - is a source of pride for me and many of my countrymen. Therefore for me this is an article that I feel strongly about and will see this through with your and the Wikipedia community support.
Therefore can you let me know how best you can and are prepared to help me on this.
Again, thank you.
Tony.bourached (talk) 13:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Tony.bourached: Hi Tony. There's a fundamental rule that all topics must be notable to have an article. I know this will be hard to hear, but even if you have no conflict of interest here, the topic that you are writing about simply isn't notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. I've looked through every single source that you've provided, and all I'm seeing is republished press releases or primary sources, both of which cannot be used to establish notability and so if I were to accept this page it would just get later deleted. If you find other pages that you believe don't meet the notability criteria, you can nominate them for deletion. Again, perhaps you might want to host this content on your own blog or website instead? jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:25, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm going away so I'm afraid I won't be able to respond further Tony, but feel free to ask for a second opinion over at the Teahouse. jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:29, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
I was rather hoping you'd see the need to address this without a talk page prod
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... but it's been a while now, so ... Why the fuck did you basically accuse me of a BLP violation, here? You really don't get to make accusations like that without any substance, you know? I await your response with some moderate levels of fascination and a great deal of confusion and irritation. -- Begoon 10:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC) |
- @Begoon and Davey2010: Thank you for your kind, delicately phrased words letting me know of my failure to respond to a comment that you left about my reversion of an infobox image that you tried to add to the article Jessie J. I absolutely agree with you- how dare I fail to respond to your comment, especially given that you made no effort whatsoever to notify me despite your seemingly desperate need for a response.
- For someone who spent several edits trying to get the right tone of a month's worth of sheer unbridled fury across in the message you left me, it really is a shame you misread my reversion quite so spectacularly. Not everyone is out to get you- you and I have no previous interactions, and my message (and talk page message, too) said putting the image on was a BLP violation (see here for another editor saying that unflattering images can be BLP violations), not your edit. Davey, an editor who I have had many positive interactions with in the past (and tends not to leave rude talk page messages, but nice Christmas cards instead) agrees that the image is unflattering, so it's certainly not a stretch to describe it as a BLP violation. It seems that you've received a formal warning for your editwarring just today (hours after you apologised to Davey saying you wouldn't do it again) which seems quite fitting.
- Oh, and given I've interrupted my holiday to reply to you I think I've gone above and beyond what's required in providing you with a response; I certainly won't be wasting anymore of my time on this matter. jcc (tea and biscuits) 16:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
- There was no "personal attack" intended. I'm touchy about being accused of "BLP violation(s)" where my only intent was to improve this encyclopedia, that's all. Perhaps you might be more careful with such accusations in future, or at least explain them better, to avoid hideous overreactions like mine. As far as I can see Davey said he didn't see any "BLP" issue either. Anyway, I went about my reaction in a somewhat ludicrous way and I do apologise for that sincerely. -- Begoon 01:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
17:02:18, 24 April 2018 review of submission by LondonBlue
- LondonBlue (talk · contribs)
LondonBlue (talk) 17:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Dear Editor-
The referenced European Union emissions standards definition that allegedly covers RDE in more detail speaks to broad EU emissions topics: specific emissions (e.g. criteria pollutants and/or regulated Greenhouse Gas (GHG) levels), generic testing cycles, and many other related categories. Further, the term RDE is no longer confined to the EU - it is now being used in China, India, South America, and is being considered in the United States.
I will say again: the RDE - Real Driving Emissions definition must have its own page, so other countries can find it and add to the details of the definition.
RDE has become a stand-alone, global standard, and is no longer a bit player imbedded and footnoted as a sub-topic. There are many of my fellow collaborators globally that will be able to submit additional information, and RDE legislation is being developed for multiple regions around the world.
PLEASE RECONSIDER. Many thanks!
Respectfully submitted....
- @LondonBlue: Sure, it may well deserve its own page and looking further for sources online it probably does. The onus is on you however to have enough content to start the article in the first place- otherwise everyone would just make pages consisting of nothing but a title. I said it at the draft itself and I'll say it again- the content on the page is inferior to what is already available on Wikipedia. When we split pages on Wikipedia we ensure that the content on the new page supplements or improves on what is already there. I would suggest splitting the information from the European_emission_standards#"Cycle_beating"_controversy page rather than use the content you wrote. See WP:SPLIT for a guide on how to do so properly. Sorry for the delay in replying. jcc (tea and biscuits) 19:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for article assistance
Dear Jcc-
Thank you for your recent help in keeping an article my students created for their class project from being deleted by a disgruntled student. The student who spent their day deleting the article was reacting to their final grade for the course. It is my belief that their choice to delete the hard work of their fellow classmates was a retaliatory effort to somehow hurt me. I appreciate your and others efforts to ensure that the work of my students is not destroyed without the due process of a community assessment of the importance of the article on the African vulture trade - as I understand the next step this student has taken is to have the page deleted under this categorization.
Thank you again.
Ecoanthjedi (talk) 13:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC)ecoanthjedi
Your GA nomination of Tom Winsor
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Your GA nomination of Tom Winsor
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- Ok thanks. I don't have the time right now to work on the article, but I will do in the future- clearly my rewrite of the existing prose didn't go far enough, but it's good to see the bits I did add myself were fine. jcc (tea and biscuits) 00:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Draft cooperation
WikiProject Germany Coordinator here. Please, if you need more help with Germany-related drafts, do not hesitate to drop a line at our talk page. The cooperation on Julia Jäkel was very constructive for both our WikiProjects. –Vami_IV✠ 09:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, much appreciated. jcc (tea and biscuits) 16:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Analytic theology
JCC. Thanks for your help on the Analytic Theology article. The article serves a community of people who work in both theology and philosophy. Critically picking art essays and articles is what they do for a living. I'm sure the comments will come quickly decisively.
jmg5041 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. jcc (tea and biscuits) 19:13, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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Request on 00:01:06, 21 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Rein Del Rosario
Good day, JCC! I already did all the advise of other editors respectively Jimfbleak and Legacypac to approved this article. I hope you consider to still publish it because I guess it would not be that fair enough if the only reason that it will not be published is because no media yet covered the company. But the company is linked or listed with other websites like how I put the links of sources on the article where it can be founded to make it reliable. Also if you'll search it in search engine there are vast results referring to the company. It don't sell products like majority of the other companies are doing that's why you can not really found it in media cover resources. Company like EnvironaAir Asia is somehow like a joint venture of public government and private sector as it's a third party sampler in making sure that other industrial companies will comply to what's legal and right in protecting the environment. The first of its kind if expose and publish in Wikipedia. It was purposely written to give awareness what is like a third party sampling is doing and why it has to exist. Kindly give chance and consideration to this matter. Thank you very much. Rein Del Rosario (talk) 00:01, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Rein Del Rosario: Hi Rein. I'm sorry and I know this won't be what you want to hear. This company is not notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article. That link goes to a guide, but basically any coverage of a company on here is supposed to be based on being covered in reliable sources, like newspapers, in the form of full articles and not just things like business listings. Unfortunately from the research I've conducted, and the links you've provided the coverage simply isn't there for this company at present. If you find this topic interesting, perhaps you might want to host this content on your own blog or website? All the best, jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Request on 17:01:35, 28 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Blythb
Hi, as I understand your view I would also say as its not finished and I'm complying more info on the history of our station.
As it was one of the original board of trade rocket brigades established in 1800's and the last of 3 volunteer life brigades still left in the mid 1900's . I believe there is more to come about this wiki and Im asking you to reconsider.
Blythb (talk) 17:01, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Blythb: If you want a second opinion, you can press the blue resubmit button at the top of your submission. jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:31, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello Jcc,
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
- Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
See also the list of top 100 reviewers.
- Less good news, and an appeal for some help
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
- Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
- Training video
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Request on 09:44:01, 12 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Lcconti
Hi - I recently edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Multiple_Intelligence_International_School, and you originally declined it. Can you please see now if it can be created?
Thank you so much
Lcconti (talk) 09:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.17
Hello Jcc,
- News
- The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.
- Discussions of interest
- Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
- {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
- A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
- There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
- Reminders
- NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
- NPP Tools Report
- Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
- copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
- The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828
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NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello Jcc,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
- Backlog drive coming soon
Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
- There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
- What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello Jcc,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
- Notifying users
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
- PERM
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
- Other news
School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Jcc,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.
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