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erm- that was actually Cyan. The reason that "my talk page" links to my talk page is because Cyan borrowed my text from User:Angela/useful stuff. He meant of course for you to reply at User talk:Cyan! :) Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia from me as well. Angela 23:00, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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I'm (snoyes) moving your question on the reference desk here in case you want to keep a copy of it:

Err... I'm not sure where this goes, but a question about some words

I hope that this is in the right place... ^^;;; If it's not, will someone please move it and notify me? Thanks.

I got this from a site with lyrics of a song from Enya... Does anyone have a clue as to what it means?

Anol shalom Anol sheh lay konnud de ne um {shaddai} Flavum Nom de leesh Ham de nam um das La um de Flavne…

We de ze zu bu We de sooo a ru Un va-a pesh a lay Un vi-I bee Un da la pech ni sa (Aaahh) Un di-I lay na day Un ma la pech a nay Mee di nu ku

(Fast tempo, 4 times) La la da pa da le na da na Ve va da pa da le na la dumda

Anol shalom Anol sheh ley kon-nud de ne um. Flavum. Flavum. M-ai shondol-lee Flavu… {Live on…} Lof flesh lay Nof ne Nom de lis Ham de num um dass La um de Flavne… Flay Shom de nomm Ma-lun des Dwondi. Dwwoondi Alas sharum du koos Shaley koot-tum.

--jdstroy @ 20031112 00.21 -0500 EST

"Shalom" means "peace" or "hello" in Hebrew. None of the rest looks Hebrew, but if it's been transcribed phonetically by someone who didn't know whatever language it is and couldn't hear it very well and Enya isn't enunciating very well... who knows? Loren Rosen 03:31, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Taken from an interview with Lisa Gerrard about the song:

...The rest of the vocals, sung with sounds rather than in a conventional language, are an example of melismatic singing. "It's a language invented within the music, inherently, and the words mean more than I can say in English", she says. "The way I sing is not new; it's been around since the beginning of time, and it's something all children are born with. It's not unique to me, but for some reason I never lost the ability".

It's not a language at all! Anjouli 19:46, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ah, thank you all!

Jdstroy 22:36, 2003 Nov 22 (UTC)

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It wasn't vandalism

I know what I'm doing. There's been going heavy tempalte vandalism and it takes time to fix it. :P -- Drini 03:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Java Xserver

Hi, I read your comment from last year regarding running X in Java - I'd like to get this functionality going too did you find anything other than wiredx for that? Any way to get X sessions running in a standard browser would be excellent! --Nad 02:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Your deletions of any mention of Hamilton C shell

Hi, Jdstroy. It looks like you may be deliberately searching for any mentions of Hamilton C shell anywhere on Wikipedia, just to delete them. The ones I spotted were in the articles on Cygwin and C shell. Your comments in logs indicate you thought these were advertising and not "notable." I'm sure you mean well and, certainly, I appreciate that most of us expect that if something's important, then of course, we'd already know about it.

What I think you may not realize is that Hamilton C shell has been around for 20 years as a serious product. Its competitors are MKS Toolkit and Cygwin but, unlike those products, Hamilton C shell is the only one actually written from scratch for a PC, originally on OS/2, then on Windows NT in the early 90s. As a C shell, it is the only one on the planet not based on Bill Joy's original code. It's been the subject of quite a number of reviews in print over those two decades, which I think should satisfy your concern re: notability. I suspect there have been more but with a quick search, I had no trouble finding several available on the web:

• Examining the Hamilton C Shell in Dr. Dobb's, January 1991
• The shell game in Software QA Magazine, August 1996
• Hamilton C shell in Windows IT Pro, April 1998

Hamilton C shell was also mentioned in following review of MKS Toolkit as potentially a better alternative for some users:

• MKS Toolkit's centerpiece in Government Computer News, January 1999

It's also mentioned grudgingly in the (in)famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful article by Tom Christiansen.

I appreciate many of these print reviews are pretty long in the tooth. But the product is still being maintained and still getting favorable reviews on the web. Here's one by a blogger, describing his recent experience with the latest version:

• Hamilton C Shell 2009 - The Missing Shell for Windows by Robert Oliver

With that in mind, I call your attention to your deletions. In C shell, you deleted the following statements:

• An independently-developed and modernized C shell, created by Nicole Hamilton, also survives on Windows in the form of Hamilton C shell.
• (These and other criticisms do not, however, apply to the more-modern Hamilton C shell variant of the csh language.)

In Cygwin, you deleted (though I've since restored) the mention of Hamilton C shell as an alternative along with MKS, UWin and SFU.

I believe the material you deleted was appropriate, accurate, provided relevant information and met the standards for notability. May I ask you to reconsider and comment, please?

Msnicki (talk) 02:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Followup: I've posted some comments to the talk page associated with the C shell with more-or-less these same points. That's perhaps a better place to carry on the discussion. I look forward to your thoughts. Best regards, Msnicki (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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