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Ah okay, that makes sense, cheers Jeffsmith01 (talk) 17:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Talk:Jared Taylor are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines, not for general discussion about the topic or unrelated topics, or statements based on your thoughts or feelings. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 08:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

You may find User:Jytdog/How useful, which explains the mission of Wikipedia, how the editing community realizes the mission, and why we do things as we do them. Briefly, we summarize reliable sources here. We summarize what sources actually say. This is different from stringing disparate sources together to make an argument; that is not OK to do here, per the policy against synthesis, a form of original research. That is what you were doing at the "white genocide" talk page and why the thread was closed. That is not what we do here. Jytdog (talk) 08:24, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Are you an American?

If so, how did you get here? Because if you're not one of this continent's indigenous peoples or a slave brought here in chains, you are a beneficiary of immigration. Perhaps even illegal immigration. Do you think the Pilgrims landing the Mayflower stopped to ask the indigenous peoples of Massachusetts if they needed to get a green card? NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:23, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

The US didn't exist before Europeans came, they were not "immigrants", they were settlers, they built it. Jeffsmith01 (talk) 09:31, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

They were, by any definition, immigrants to a new land. And that land, by the way, was stolen at gunpoint from its prior owners. If you think we have any special moral claim to this continent which allows us to reject all others who would come and join us, you're wrong. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

No they weren't, America, the country, did not exist when they arrived. Secondly the Native Americans on the continent at that time fought back against the European settlers and lost, mainly due to diseases (which the Europeans had no idea about btw), therefore why do the CURRENT inhabitants not have the right to fight back against invaders and build walls? Strikes me as kind of absurd logic. Jeffsmith01 (talk) 07:07, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

So invasion is morally acceptable if it's successful, got it. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Or were you thinking that it's only morally acceptable when white people do it? Given some of your other posts... Ian.thomson (talk) 19:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

The reason Europeans won was due to resistance to diseases that the natives had not developed, this is due to them not developing the same level of agricultural society. I recommend The 10,000 Year Explosion by Gregory Cochran for a great overview of this. I have no issue if Mexicans want to invade the US but the US citizens should be able to defend themselves. Do you support the idea of open borders for your home, can I come and sleep in your bed and eat food from your kitchen? Jeffsmith01 (talk) 19:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

So it's not a war of invasion or conquest you have a problem with - you purely dislike immigration? PeterTheFourth (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

About your userpage

What you wrote here as well as on a talk page here are ...unwise at best. I am very sorry to see you pre-judging things, when you have just arrived here. You may want to read Confirmation bias, fwiw. It's a thing. Jytdog (talk) 10:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Can I be blocked for writing what I did on my own page? Jeffsmith01 (talk) 11:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

It can be deleted per WP:POLEMIC. If you add it again, you may be blocked. wumbolo ^^^ 13:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

[1] Also see WP:IDHT. wumbolo ^^^ 13:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Have you also sent these messages to Grayfell on the Jared Taylor Talk page when he was getting emotionally involved and attacking me unrelated to the topic at hand, even requesting I be blocked?

His message - "Nobody here asked you to find sources calling him something, so you either misinterpreted what was being told to you, or are being intentionally obtuse. He is both a white nationalist and a white supremacist. It's possible for him to be more than one thing. Ethno-nationalism is a sad, angry fantasy anyway, so trying to emphasize this difference is unpersuasive. None of these sources dispute that he is a white supremacist. In fact, they all support it even if they don't use that precise term. Further, this has already been discussed in tedious detail. Beating a dead horse is a demonstration that you're not acting in good faith. If that's the case, why wouldn't an admin just block you and save us all some time?" Jeffsmith01 (talk) 14:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not going to reply until you read WP:IDHT. wumbolo ^^^ 17:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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wumbolo ^^^ 17:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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wumbolo ^^^ 17:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Why does the first blue box (I'm very new I don't fully understand what this is) say "You have recently shown interest in Eastern Europe", I don't recall having any interaction over an Eastern Europe topic? Jeffsmith01 (talk) 19:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Well, it's not obvious from your edithistory. Wumbolo? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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