User talk:Jesushaces/Proof

Proof that ..AGAIN (copied from User talk:Melchoir)

Hello, just a quick comment, i realise anon is rude, but be careful, it'd be a great loss if an admin with a rash took your comment as WP:CIVIL. On a side-note, I'm tempted to copy the uncyclopedia article... I think that'd end all the discussion. ;) Jesushaces 22:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern, but I didn't mean my post as an attack per se; if anything, I'm trying to de-escalate on Wikipedia by giving up on defending myself or the actual mathematics. On the other hand, Uncyclopedia actually encourages flamewars. Melchoir 22:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Do you think it'd be unreasonable to rename the article to something like Is 0.999… = 1? and create 2 sections, each with its own proofs that 0.999…{=;!=}1, so that users may draw their own conclusions? Jesushaces

Um, are you talking about the Wikipedia article or the Uncyclopedia article? Melchoir 23:04, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article. Jesushaces 00:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I think that would be a bad idea on two levels. First, it would be misleading. Second, and this is arguably more important to Wikipedia, you'll never find a reliable source that offers a proof that 0.999... < 1. Melchoir 01:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I just thought it would end all the discussion if we'd put some 'reasons why people think 0.999... does not equal...' in the article. Thanks Jesushaces 01:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah! I think I misunderstood you. You'll never find a proof that 0.999... < 1, but there is literature on reasons why people think 0.999... < 1. I'm actually in favor of including the latter, so if that's what you're proposing, I agree. However, I must warn you that we're in the minority. Melchoir 01:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I would support such a section, although I suspect the anons would be fighting tooth and nail to make it the focus of the article (including possibly moving the page). Still, give it a shot, and if all else fails we can start an edit war and make it the first mathematical page to be protected from editing (ok, just joking there, but if it was protected from anonymous edits it would solve a few problems, wouldn't it?) Confusing Manifestation 03:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, what do you think of this? I put it in my user space, since I'm not sure about creating a subpage in the article. If you like this, we could post it to the Wikiproject Math and ask for the community's consensus. Jesushaces 05:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you that I don't mean it to be a final version, but rather that you please help edit it. Jesushaces 02:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I haven't given it much thought today; it's the weekend, after all! I think it should be moved towards the end, and it must include 1)sources for any misconceptions that we claim are "common" and 2) rebuttals. Since you've invited me to edit it, I'll show you what I mean... Melchoir 02:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)