Jillmanipulator
November 2010
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This is your only warning. If you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced defamatory content into an article or any other Wikipedia page again, as you did at Jill Greenberg, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Sandstein 18:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
the words "unsourced" and "defamatory" both have very specific meanings. sources are available and will be updated today, and your use of the term "defamatory" is ironic in that nothing that was posted to the page came close to reaching such a standard. however, making such an accusation itself, while not dispositive, is at least potentially showing an actor in bad faith. if you know of any particular clause or sentence that was in FACT via third party defamatory, please cite, and if not, then while it is nice you have an opinion you will need to show further proof before making such extreme accusations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertogreen (talk • contribs) 19:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Jillmanipulator, I will reproduce here the explanation I left at User talk:Robertogreen#November 2010:
Wikipedia policy strictly forbids you from writing anything that reflects negatively on living persons, unless you provide at the same time, in the form of a footnote in the text, a reference to a reliable published source that directly supports what you add to the text. This is explained in great detail in the policy page WP:BLP, about which you have been warned above and which you should have read. You violated that policy by making this change, in which you write among other things:
- "For example, [name of living person] called his current wife a cunt in front of reporters, and he had cheated on his first wife after she had waited for him and raised his children, once he returned stateside and realized how she had been disfigured in a car accident."
This sort of allegation with respect to a living person may be included in a Wikipedia article, if at all – I do not see how it is at all relevant in an article that is not about that person – only if it is at the same time accompanied by a citation of a reliable published source that supports that allegation.
It is insufficient, for our purposes here, that you believe that this allegation is true, or that you are in possession of documents that you believe prove that it is true. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. This means that for you to be allowed to write something negative about another living person, it must not only be true, but you must also immediately enable readers to verify it for themselves by indicating the published reliable source in which readers can look up whether what you write is indeed true.
Please also understand that Wikipedia may not take anybody's side in disputes such as the one you wrote about. This is explained at our policy page WP:NPOV. Our purpose is to write a neutral, verifiable encyclopedia. That has absolute priority. This means that we will not carry content that, even though possibly true, is not neutral and verifiable.
This applies to you also, no matter who you are. If you think that there is anything in your personal circumstances, such as your identity, that is relevant to this matter, then I recommend that in the interest of your own privacy you do not discuss it here, but with volunteers who will keep your e-mail correspondence confidential, as described at Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject). However, no matter what your personal circumstances are, you will not be allowed to make such changes again, for the reasons described above, and will be blocked from editing Wikipedia if you do. Sandstein 07:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Jillmanipulator (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Block message:
Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Robertogreen". The reason given for Robertogreen's block is: "Violations of the Biographies of living persons policy".
Decline reason: Declined pending response to questions below. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 02:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Any particular reason why you're sharing an IP with Robertogreen? UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 16:38, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Or, for that matter, with User:Werthsilver, also active on the same article? --jpgordon::==( o ) 17:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm declining this, pending a response. There is too great a confluence between your edits and those of the other blocked editor to unblock without some explanation. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 02:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)