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Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (XJDF) (November 7)

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Maliner (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (XJDF) (November 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kilaseell was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (XJDF) (November 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kilaseell was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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– Kilaseell - Message me! - 19:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Dianna - I will try again. You are correct that CIP4 is the copyright owner/holder for the XJDF text article I was creating. As a volunteer member of the CIP4 education workgroup, I was asked to begin a Wikipedia "stub" article describing XJDF, that others could expand upon. We obviously have permission to share our own material, and the XJDF open-standard itself can be freely downloaded. I modeled the article upon our earlier JDF Job definition format Wikipedia article.

The draft article is currently in my personal sandbox @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmekis/sandbox

Two questions for you:

1.) Does the CC BY-SA 4.0 template statement in the first lines address your copyright concerns, along with the personally written statement below it?

• "XJDF (Exchange Job Definition Format) © 2015 by CIP4 is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0"
• CIP4.org grants CC BY-SA 4.0 License for this XJDF article (as we did previously for our existing Job Definition Format article).

2.) At what point can we move this license info away from the first words in the published article? I ask because the sibling article: JDF Job Definition Format that was posted years ago correctly includes a CC BY-SA 4.0 statement at the end which does not need to appear in the editable text.

Thank you,

- Jim Mekis Jmekis (talk) 01:58, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (November 30)

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~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (December 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Dan arndt (talk) 22:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (December 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Liance were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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~Liance^talk 05:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

CIP4

The Exchange Job Definition Format (XJDF) has been developed and maintained by CIP4, whether it is available commercially or freely available it is still a product. The fundamental issue is that you need to demonstrate that there is significant coverage at sources other than those related to CIP4. If there aren't any sources other than those related to CIP4 then it is information that shouldn't be included until independent sources are found. I think you need to spread your search wider and identify true secondary sources - otherwise it won't pass Wikipedia's notability standards. Dan arndt (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (December 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Stuartyeates was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Stuartyeates (talk) 07:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (December 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Drmies was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Drmies (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exchange Job Definition Format (December 18)

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Drmies (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Please read where it says this: "OK, last time: resubmitting this AGAIN without improving the draft so that it has RELIABLE, INDEPENDENT, SECONDARY sources will lead to a complete rejection of the draft, and possibly a block per WP:NOTHERE; this has become a waste of time for the AfC volunteers." Drmies (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exchange Job Definition Format has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exchange Job Definition Format. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Jmekis. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Morton Marcus, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello Darmies - I am not "promoting". I am reporting on past events in the case of adding the annual recognized poet for the University of California event that takes place once a year in Morton Marcus's name. COI?... I don't think so, though Morton Marcus was my brother-in-law and a friend during his life.

And as for the publisher vs. published change you initially objected to, footnote 3 from UCSC makes it clear that his work was published (by others) and that he did not publish it himself, and that is not just semantics when it comes to published vs. self-published.

I am simply trying to make sure the Wikipedia article on Morton Marcus is accurate, and I agree that you have vastly more knowledge & experience editing Wikipedia than I have, but your edits have made the article less accurate and less complete. How is that a "win"?

Thanks, - Jim Jmekis (talk) 02:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm in the same business that he was in, and when I say "I published an essay on Southern metaphors of chivalry" I'm NOT saying that I went and made a printing press and bought some paper and printed off my essay, and went door-to-door to sell it. Come on. Literally NO ONE would conclude that he self-published stuff. As for "less complete"--a long list of people who have done such a reading, that's not really about the life of the man anyway, is it. It's about legacy, perhaps, but at some point a list of famous names becomes an advertisement for the reading series. Again, this is my business too, and I have organized readings, and famous names matter. What you consistently fail to realize is that articles here should adhere to our guidelines. We are an encyclopedia, and content needs to be based on reliable secondary sources. If you were close to him, it is entirely possible that you have access to material that is not online--newspaper articles, magazine articles, book reviews, etc., esp. since he did his work before the internet's hostile take over. That will improve the article--your semantics and rearranging of the material does not. If you want to add material, can we just start with some basic facts? Like, an actual biography? Surely you are better equipped than me to provide the facts and sources for them. Drmies (talk) 15:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry Drmies, I hadn't read through COI info, because the first word in that abbreviation is "conflict," and until you objected, it hadn’t occurred to me that there could be a conflict in my keeping Mort's page updated. Apologies.

Following is the reason we consider listing the poets who have read at The Annual Morton Marcus Poetry Reading to be essential to Mort’s legacy: For thirty years, between 1968 and 1998, Mort invited poets from around the country to read poetry at Cabrillo College, and at venues throughout Santa Cruz County. He would interview these poets on KUSP's "The Poetry Show", where Mort was a host, and they included such luminaries as Robert Bly, Lennart Bruce, Ray Carver, Andre Codrescu, Diane DePrima, William Everson, Larry Fixel, Jack Gilbert, Allen Ginsberg, Ray Gonzalez, James B. Hall, Robert Hass, Juan Filipe Herrera, George Hitchcock, Lawson Inada, Shirley Kaufman, Galway Kinnell, John Logan, Nathaniel Mackey, Robin Magowan, Jack Marshall, Michael McClure, Robert Peters, Robert Peterson, Vasko Popa, Adrienne Rich, Vern Rutsala, Charles Simic, Gary Snyder, Gary Soto, Joe Stroud, Al Young and Gary Young—a veritable roll call of many of the best American poets of the twentieth century. Recordings of Mort’s interviews are available to the public in the Morton Marcus Poetry Archive housed in Special Collections and Archives at UC Santa Cruz. https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8fx79zs/

The goal of The Annual Morton Marcus Poetry Reading is to continue Mort’s work. This reading series is not a business, it has always been free of charge, and open to the public. Our local community continues to support Mort and this reading series through their donations. Following Mort’s death in 2009, Mort’s wife, and a group of local poets began organizing the reading series. Beginning in 2017, The Humanities Institute at UC Santa Cruz stepped in to join the existing committee, and to host the readings. I have included the secondary reference for this below.

Our request:

1.) The first sentence of Mort’s Wiki page is now grammatically incorrect. We suggest:

"Marcus had more than 500 poems published in literary journals across the country, including…"

2.) We ask that you re-consider replacing the content below, with the added secondary reference that you requested:

The Annual Morton Marcus Poetry Poetry Reading has become an established annual poetry reading series bringing some of the most accomplished poets in the country to Santa Cruz County. This annual event is held in November each year, is free to the public, and is sponsored by UC Santa Cruz, Cabrillo College, Ow Family Properties, Bookshop Santa Cruz, and the family of Morton Marcus. Featured poets include: 2010 Robert Hass, 2011 Kay Ryan, 2012 Arthur Sze, 2013 Naomi Shihab Nye, 2014 Peter Everwine and Chuck Hanzlicek, 2015 Al Young, 2016 Joseph Stroud, 2017 Dorianne Laux, 2018 Gary Snyder, 2019 Gary Soto, 2020 Morgan Parker, 2021 Gary Young, 2022 Natasha Trethewey, and 2023 Chitra Divakaruni.

I will wait to add Ellen Bass as the 2024 featured poet until after the event, so there is no "promotion," if that works for you.

You asked for Mort's Biography, and it is listed on the home page of the "Official Website" link at the bottom of the his Wikipedia page: https://www.mortonmarcus.com/bio

We are hoping to come to some consensus?

Thanks, - Jim Jmekis (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

BTW so you DO have a conflict of interest; if you had read the policy you'd have known that there's no shame in admitting that. Drmies (talk) 15:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)