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Your submission at Articles for creation: Village Reconstruction Organization has been accepted

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Yashovardhan (talk) 12:52, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject assessment tags for talk pages

Thank you for your recent articles, including Angelus Silesius Meeting House, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. For example, WikiProject Poland relies on such templates to generate listings such as Article Alerts, Popular Pages, Quality and Importance Matrix and the Cleanup Listing. Thanks to them, WikiProject members are more easily able to defend your work from deletion, or simply help try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information about using those talk page templates. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm new at this and will more than happy to go back and do it where it seems appropriate. @Piotrus: Jzsj (talk) 12:51, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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Copyright problem on Maurice Bishop

Material you included in the above article appears to have been copied from the copyright web page http://kalamu.com/neogriot/2013/11/04/history-forward-ever-backward-never-remembering-maurice-bishop/ or elsewhere online. Copying text directly from a source is a copyright violation. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

July 2017

Your addition to Focolare Movement has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I'd originally mentioned the second part you removed as being a quote from: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/laity/documents/rc_pc_laity_doc_20051114_associazioni_en.html#WORK

But I removed the reference when I added references to back up almost all of it. If I restore the line saying what follows is a listing from the above source, then may I restore the descriptions removed from the article? @Diannaa: Jzsj (talk) 23:39, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

It's okay to use short quotations when there's no alternative, but for the most part we are supposed to write the content in our own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:13, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Citing athletic achievements

Rather than trying to look up a newspaper link to every achievement, if you look on the state sanctioning body, you should find links to at least the annual tournament results. Some states even have listings for state championships by school.

• Oregon http://www.osaa.org/
• Indiana http://www.ihsaa.org/
• Michigan https://mhsaa.com/
• Illinois http://ihsa.org/default.aspx

Those are the ones I know off the top of my head. If you need help locating others, hollar. John from Idegon (talk) 22:50, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Papal bull of 1696?

Hi Jszj. You were recommended to me by another user. I was wondering whether you would be willing to voice your opinion about the so-called "1696 papal bull" here on this talk page. Best, - LouisAragon (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Gonzaga Institute, Palermo

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Gonzaga Institute, Palermo, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images from either web sites or printed works. This article appears to contain work copied from http://www.gonzagapalermo.it/?page_id=1084, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

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• If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted "under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), version 3.0", or that the work is released into the public domain, or if you have strong reason to believe it is, leave a note at Talk:Gonzaga Institute, Palermo with a link to where we can find that note or your explanation of why you believe the content is free for reuse.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Gonzaga Institute, Palermo saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved.

Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you can't just copy-paste a Google translation of the website of the school into Wikipedia, for several. First, that is copyright violation, and absolutely not permissible here – I see that you have already had several warnings about that, including two from Diannaa; and secondly, the tone of such websites is, by their nature, almost invariably overly promotional, and entirely unsuitable for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. Also, please read about what is considered an independent reliable source for Wikipedia purposes (which, specifically, does not normally include the website or other published materials of the person or institution itself).

I have to ask: do you think there may be other articles which you have started by copy-pasting material – whether translated or not – from elsewhere into your sandbox? If so, please list them here, on this page, so that they can be cleaned up. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I have tried to be very careful not to just copy-paste translations, in this article and in the other articles I am creating. I believe your suggestion that I just copy pasted much of this article is quite erroneous, though I did use the school website, some from Wordpress, as a chief source. I ask that you please follow the recommendation "to blank a section instead of an entire article, add the template to the beginning of the section and at the end of the portion you intend to blank" which would help me to know what part of the article you are referring to. I appreciate any help with this, as I just don't understand what you are speaking about here. @Justlettersandnumbers: Jzsj (talk) 17:56, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I should have drawn attention to this sandbox edit here as well as in my edit summary at Gonzaga Institute, Palermo – sorry! In case you are wondering, I read Italian without difficulty. There is no doubt in my mind that your text was translated from theirs.

As for blanking one section, that's what we do when an editor has added a copyright violation to part only of an otherwise untainted article. In this case, the copyright violation dates from before the article creation, and all the text was written by the same person (you), so the whole page will need to be carefully checked for other possible problems. When you have time, please reply to my last question above; that is really crucial, and should take precedence over other matters. You have 20,000 edits – we really need to know whether every one of them needs to be checked. Of course, I hope that this was just a one-time slip, easily remedied – but I'm not entirely encouraged by the other similar complaints higher up this page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you saying that what's in my sandbox is published and may not be copied from a direct translation? I thought that what I did in my (private) sandbox was for my eyes only, and no one has ever told me otherwise. I always copy the text from other articles into my sandbox and then rework it so that it is not plagiarism, but the source is acknowledged. If this is not permitted, please direct me to where I can read what is and is not permitted in use of school websites to create Wiki articles, and how nothing in the sandbox (for reworking) can be directly copied from another source. @Justlettersandnumbers: Jzsj (talk) 18:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Father. I've always had good interactions with you, so I hope you don't mind my butting in here. Your sandbox is private in that it isn't published in the article space and isn't indexed for Google, and convention on the English Wikipedia is that we typically don't edit things in other users userspace. That being said, it is still accessible to anyone on the internet if they know where to look, and the Wikimedia Foundation asserts to anyone who view it or its revisions that all text present in the current version or the historical versions are available for them to copy and adapt for their own purposes so long as they attribute it and release it under the same license (the CC-BY-SA license). You can see thins information right above the "save changes" button any time you make an edit.
  In terms of how to best write school articles John from Idegon and Kudpung help coordinate WikiProject Schools, and they might be able to give you some advice.
  Hope all is well with you and that you had a happy celebration of the Assumption this past week. I am somewhat partial to the Agni Parthene for music around this time, not sure why. Anyway, all the best. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying this. I thought the work wasn't "submitted to Wikipedia" until it was published in an article. In the future I'll do all me copying to Microsoft word for editing, and then move to the Sandbox. And if someone wants to delete the whole history of my sandbox to remove it from public use, that's fine by me: I have no reason to refer to it. I do have all my finished articles backed up and in Google Drive. Thanks again! @TonyBallioni: Jzsj (talk) 18:57, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and marked it for deletion. I'm pretty good with copyright things in general, but don't have time right now to go through other school articles where there might be similar issues. Justlettersandnumbers above seemed interested in helping determine if there are any additional articles we need to fix, so they might be more help here going forward, though I am always free for questions. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:16, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I didn't know you had to delete my sandbox to be rid of previously deleted files there. Does this mean I need to open a new account in Wikipedia? The only previous issue I've had raised with my sandbox was when I placed a logo on it before publishing the article, which I've stopped doing, and I no longer list there live categories for the articles. @TonyBallioni: Jzsj (talk) 19:30, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

No need for a new account. Typically what we do for copyright violations is selectively delete the revision history for any copyright violations, leaving the clean versions. Since you said above that you didn't mind the entire history being deleted, I took that as a request for deletion via CSD G7: since the current version was blank and you said you were fine with deleting the entire history, just deleting the page and allowing you to recreate it yourself whenever you wanted seemed much easier than deleting all the revisions and leaving a blank one. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks much! No problem. @TonyBallioni: Jzsj (talk) 19:47, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

A steward went ahead and deleted it but left the talk. You can recreate it by making any edit to User:Jzsj/sandbox. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Theology of Pope Francis

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Theology of Pope Francis you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Doctorg -- Doctorg (talk) 19:01, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Theology of Pope Francis

The article Theology of Pope Francis you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Theology of Pope Francis for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Doctorg -- Doctorg (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Category removal when "complete citations"

Hi, several of the articles that you edited had their categories removed. Examples: Jesuit College, Juiz de Fora, St. Joseph College, Barranquilla, Christ the King School, Portoviejo. I have recovered the categories. --Bamyers99 (talk) 00:43, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to this: if you know how this happens unintentionally, please let me know. I have been removing the 4 lines of bullets that come at the end of new articles (I don't know why they're there) and are often not eliminated by the reviewer; I'll note if this has any effect on the categories. Jzsj (talk) 12:02, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

This blocked user is asking that his block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Jzsj (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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UTRS appeal #19487 was submitted on Oct 13, 2017 17:14:53. This review is now closed.

--UTRSBot (talk) 17:14, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

NFCC

Hi. I know all this is a lot to take in, and I'm sorry, but please read WP:NFCC. File:EscolaPadreArrupe.png can't be kept here unless your draft article becomes an article in mainspace within 7 days.

You also can't use a non-free file in your draft, so I'm going to have to comment that usage out of the draft. See Wikipedia:Drafts#Preparing drafts, which explains - "Non-free content cannot be included in draft articles per Wikipedia's policy on where non-free media is allowed. Any desired non-free content should be added to the article once it has been moved to the mainspace."

I have, however, uploaded a better copy of the image. If it does get deleted before your article is moved to the mainspace you can get it reinstated at WP:REFUND when the article is in mainspace. I'll also keep a copy offline just in case. Sorry to complicate things for you, but the WP:NFCC rules exist to protect wikipedia. -- Begoon 03:07, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for the help. I should remember this when I do my next draft article. Jzsj (talk) 00:23, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
  • No problem. Copyright and WP:NFCC are complex issues here, so it's understandable that people make errors before they are familiar with our policies. I do note though that you've made a few similar errors in the past, which have been explained here, and wikipedia does take copyright very seriously, so I'd urge a little more care given the history. Just ask questions if you're unsure - most experienced editors would be more than happy to help you. As an additional note for you here that won't get deleted if the image description page does, the better quality image I uploaded came from http://www.bdp.redejesuitadeeducacao.com.br/colegios/escudos/epate.png, also archived at this link:[1], in case you need it in the future. All I did to that was cropped it, removed the white surrounding background and resized it to be acceptable per WP:NFCC. -- Begoon 09:30, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

• I read through WP:NFCC and found nothing about resizing; can you say which provisions on that page I'm likely to offend against in using logos as I do? @Begoon: Jzsj (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

• Sorry, I should have linked WP:NFC. See WP:IMAGERES regarding image size. There's also a useful calculator here:[2]. I wasn't saying there was a problem with the size of logos you upload, just pointing out that I needed to resize this one from the better quality original I found. -- Begoon 01:42, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Non-free rationales

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:ERICSJProgreso.png, File:RadioProgreso.png, File:MexicoPRODH.png, File:CMTEcuador.png, File:SLUHlogo.png, File:GonzWash.png, File:LoyBlakefield.png, File:SanJoseAMPA.png, File:BostColHi.png, File:Chenmission.png and File:IndSocInstBang.png. I notice the file pages specify that the files are being used under non-free content criteria, but there are not suitable explanations or rationales as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description pages, and edit them to include non-free rationales.

If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described in section F6 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 21:02, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for pointing out that I was using the wrong tag. I think I've remedied this on this file and one other. If the correction stands then I'll make numerous such corrections. Please let me know if this one is not now correct. @Stefan2: Jzsj (talk) 00:27, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
  • File:Chenmission.png and File:IndSocInstBang.png now look correct. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:57, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks much. I'll check out all the logos I placed: I don't know where/how this went wrong. Jzsj (talk) 05:38, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Padre Arrupe School has been accepted

Padre Arrupe School, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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