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18:29, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Notability

Hello,

I was wondering if protests make something notable or only based the coverage it gets. There was a book launch [16] and a translation author was asked not to come because she is a woman and an organization prohibits their holy men from looking at women. She was offended and there was some public outcry. Is this considered something that is notable in the book page, organization page, somewhere else or just not notable?

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Question

Hi Kaldari,

Since you are a computer expert, I have a question:

On Japanese Wikipedia, let's say if a user tries to create a 1-2 sentence stub page, then their system would automatically not save the article and displays this message instead:


"作成しようとしている記事の文章量が少なすぎるようです。

作成しようとしている記事の文章量が少なすぎると判定されました。

ウィキペディアにおけるひとつの記事として求められる文章量に達していない可能性があります。 Wikipedia:スタブを読んで、文章量をもう少し増やしてから投稿してください。 現在の文章量で十分であると考えられる場合、もう一度投稿ボタンを押せばこのまま作成することも可能です。"

It roughly translates as: "It was determined that the article text content you are trying to create is too little. It did not reach the minimum text requirements for new articles on [Japanese] Wikipedia. Please read our Wikipedia:stub policy, and try to post with a little more words to increase the amount of text content. If the text content is considered to be sufficient, it will then be possible to create this article by pressing the Save button again. "


Could you show me how they did automated that and how I can implement this on another Wikipedia language edition? Thanks. --Chrysolophus pictus (talk) 21:48, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Chrysolophus pictus: It was most likely done using the AbuseFilter extension. The interface for this can be accessed at Special:AbuseFilter on any wiki. Kaldari (talk) 05:32, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

First Presbyterian Church (Nashville, Tennessee) to be merged with Downtown Presbyterian Church (Nashville)

Hello. It looks like the First Presbyterian Church (Nashville, Tennessee) is just another name for the Downtown Presbyterian Church (Nashville). Should we not merge the first article with the listed church building?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Possibly. It's a bit confusing since the official First Presbyterian Church (congregation) still exists, but at a different location. I have no idea how this sort of thing is normally handled. Might be good to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity. Kaldari (talk) 20:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
In that case, we could keep both articles. Where is the First Presbyterian Church located now? You would need to expand on that.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

18:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift#Singer-songwriter

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift#Singer-songwriter. Thanks. Calidum 01:15, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

16:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

sugar price graph

Kaldari your sugar price graph request is done, if your satisfied with the file please mark with

  Resolved

tag
so we can archive it - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 16:35, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

16:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Folger image upload again

Hi Kaldari,

Sorry to nag on you, I'm sure you've got more than enough on your plate as it is. But regarding my previous question (your response); have you had any chance to look at this?

Note that I'm not requesting that you do any GLAM outreach or anything. Back in 2012, Missvain posted a request to the WP:BARD talk page suggesting the Folger needed help uploading their collections (presumably to Commons), and that interested editors should get in touch with you. I'm just trying to find out more about that request, as it was made back in 2012, and what happened with it afterwards (I see it got no response from the WikiProject). Where did the request come from? Did the Folger get in touch with anyone? Did we contact the Folger? Was there a Visiting Scholar setup there at the time? Did they get their collections uploaded? Do they still need assistance? What sort of assistance? And so forth. Thanks in advance, --Xover (talk) 05:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

@Xover: The last update we received from Folger was that they were putting the donation on hold pending the hiring of a Director of Digital Access. That was 3 years ago. Kaldari (talk) 16:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
@Xover: I've pinged the new Director of Digital Access at the Folger to see if he's interested in restarting the process. Kaldari (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. For reference, I am willing to help out with such a project in any way I can. Slow burn manual uploads, scripting it if there's sufficient support for that (APIs, structured data), etc. and I have a passing familiarity with the Shakespeare field if that would help for this particular case. I can't promise oodles of time or predictable time-tables, and can't necessarily commit to anything very long term, but within those limits I'm motivated to help. Also, I believe @Thedarklady154: is based at the Folger in some capacity (that I've not quite grasped, but which seems apposite here). --Xover (talk) 17:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Domestic violence and intersex couples

You reverted my inclusion in the domestic violence article of intersex couples? My understanding is that intersex couples exist? Am I missing something? Please explain. Seems like intersex couples can also be victims of DV? I have not reverted your revert. thanks.Charlotte135 (talk) 01:33, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

@Charlotte135: Intersex persons generally identify as either male or female, and thus consider themselves either heterosexual or homosexual. There are of course some who identify as neither male nor female and are thus transgender (which is an umbrella term including transmen, transwomen, and non-binary genders). So all the relationship possibilities of intersex couples are already covered. Kaldari (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Similarly can be stated of transgender people, who usually identify as male/man or female/woman (at least when not using the term transgender as an umbrella term), which is why I was going to revert Charlotte135 on the transgender addition. "Transgender relationships"? How do we define that, given gender identity? And where are the sources in the article discussing domestic violence among transgender people? Flyer22 (talk) 02:48, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
@Flyer22: That's a good point. I would support removing transgender as well, especially if it isn't discussed in the article body. Kaldari (talk) 03:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for your reply Kaldari. I saw a documentary on intersex couples. Interestingly both were intersex and neither identified as either male or female. Anyway I thought I would add this group to represent them in the article. However I won't dispute your revert further. Flyer 22 I feel you are following me by commenting here. I asked you why you were being so aggressive toward me on the domestic violence talk page and would still like to know? But yeah...i think its a bit strange you appear on another editor's talk page when I was asking them a question? Kaldari, what is your opinion on me adding transgender couples that flyer 22 says they are going to delete? I just feel we need to be inclusive in the article of minority groups affected by domestic violence?Charlotte135 (talk) 03:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I may ask that question on the article talk page? Maybe it would be good to add something in the body of the article then? Kaldari what is your opinion based on the doco I watched where both members of the intersex couple did not identify as either male or female? Are they not able to be victims or perpetrators of DV too? We need to be inclusive IMO....?Charlotte135 (talk) 03:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I think that probably transgender couples, if discussed in the body of the article, should be included at least?Charlotte135 (talk) 03:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
@Charlotte135: If there are any reliable sources discussing DV in transgender relationships, you are welcome to add it to the article body (with proper citations). The lead should be a summary of the content in the body, however, and not include original research or statements not reflected in the body. Kaldari (talk) 03:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks.Charlotte135 (talk) 04:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Hot articles for medicine?

Hi Kaldari, is there any chance the hot articles bot could be made to run for the medicine wikiproject? It has far more than 10,000 articles (~30,000) but I hoped it might run on larger wikiprojects as well nowadays. --WS (talk) 10:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

@Wouterstomp: I would be willing to try it, but in order for it to work there has to be a category that includes all of your project's articles directly (rather than in subcategories). (I know that's a weird requirement, but it's the only way that the query can run efficiently.) You can do this by creating an new category like Category:All WikiProject Medicine articles and adding "MAIN_CAT = All WikiProject Medicine articles" to {{WikiProject Medicine}}. You could also make your existing Category:WikiProject Medicine articles the MAIN_CAT, although that might be awkward since all the articles are already included in subcategories there. I would recommend discussing this with other members of your project first. Kaldari (talk) 23:50, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks I will discuss it. --WS (talk) 13:37, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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@Jorm: Thanks for the ping. I had forgotten all about Gamergate. Things are going well. Glad to see you still lurking about :) Kaldari (talk) 22:41, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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18:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

  Kaldari
Wishing you a joyous Christmas and a prosperous new year!
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Thank you for your help with Women in Punk Rock

Dear Kaldari, Thank you for your help editing Women in Punk Rock, it is very appreciated. Have a terrific 2016! Netherzone (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


Posthumous award listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Hot article edit counts are off

Hi, something is up with the hot article counts; at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Hot articles BRCA1 is shown to have 1238 edits while in fact it had only one and Reelin is shown to have 630 edits and also only had one. Any idea what's wrong? --WS (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

16:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

RfC announce: Religion in infoboxes

There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what What should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

17:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hot articles bot

Could you update the HotArticlesBot for WikiProject Spiders as per the changed parameters at User:HotArticlesBot/Subscriptions, as it doesn't appear to happen automatically? The project isn't very active at present and lower thresholds would be useful. Thanks! Peter coxhead (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: I changed the day threshold from 3 to 7 days, but left the orange and red thresholds. Usually when you increase the days, you'll want to increase the orange and red thresholds as well, not decrease them. Right now, for example, all the article in the Spiders Hot Articles list are red except for 1 and that's with only 3 days. Kaldari (talk) 04:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Because the project itself is not very active, we didn't know whether there is much activity going on. I'll keep it under review and see if the thresholds need to be increased. Thanks! Peter coxhead (talk) 09:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, actually I also changed the number of articles shown to 10 at User:HotArticlesBot/Subscriptions, but this doesn't seem to have been changed. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
@Peter coxhead: Oops, I missed that. Should be fixed now. Kaldari (talk) 16:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! And you were quite right about the thresholds – they may need increasing, but I'll see how it goes. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:57, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Page curation tool

I'm looking to automate or make a macro for new articles that need to be moved to draftspace without a redirect, tagged for AfC, removed of comments/maintenance templates, and updated re: wikiproject status. Could you help with this or know who could? I imagine this outcome would be common for new articles. (I was directed here from elsewhere) czar 23:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: There are a lot of different approaches you could take. You could try extending Twinkle or the PageCuration tools, or write some new gadgets or user scripts. For WikiProject assessments, there are already a couple user scripts out there: User:Kephir/gadgets/rater.js and User:Kaldari/assessmentHelper.js. I'm afraid I don't currently have the bandwidth to help with such an effort, but you could also try filing Phabricator requests against the PageCuration project and maybe another developer will take a shot at it. Kaldari (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

RfC on Campus Sexual Assault

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16:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)