Krispe13
Kazimir Malevich
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- Please be more specific and elaborate on the remove and added parts. To my knowledge none was removed. As well as on which material do you consider being copyrighted (any extended citations are from the original source created over 80 years ago). Krispe13 (talk) 01:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I consider material cut-and pasted from modern day websites, such as https://besacenter.org/kalmykia-ethnic-separatism-in-the-lower-volga-region/, to be a blatant copyright violation. If you have any questions on Wikipedia's copyright policy, there are editors at the teahouse who would be happy to guide you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you are referring to the sentences with the facts containing the date and the name of republic created, then there is not logical way of rephrasing them and as stated in the "Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources" the facts cannot be copy-righted. With exception of the topics with very limited number of trusted sources, the rest was my original text. No parts that were added by other users were removed, contrary to your statement. Krispe13 (talk) 01:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if you could name the parts/subtopics that are an issue, instead of discarding the whole piece altogether. Krispe13 (talk) 01:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Facts cannot be copyrighted- but prose can be, and is. You will have read that on Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources. A full phrase such as "According to the 2010 census, of the 183,000 ethnic Kalmyks, only 80,500 speak their own language" (from this site) could have been reworded many other ways- there was no excuse for you to copy-paste it, amongst other sentences, directly into our article. If that still doesn't make sense, I would strongly advise asking for somebody to explain it to you on the teahouse or at the help desk. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 03:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can admit that I got sloppier at the end and that can do a better job, so thank you for holding me up to the standards. Considering that the parts you have pointed out are located in the second half of the article - "Secessionist movements", do you have any reservations if I recreate the upper parts before the "Secessionist movements" from the backup of my version, or do you have some additional comments with regards to it at this point? As I mentioned below all the information provided there has reference sources and/or refers to the articles containing such sources. Krispe13 (talk) 10:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- As long as you don't copy-paste, or closely paraphrase anything, I have no issues if you start adding information back in. However, everything needs to be referenced. Even if it refers to something we have an article on, it needs to be referenced. (Because what happens if you mention a fact users later decide to remove from the other article?) GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can admit that I got sloppier at the end and that can do a better job, so thank you for holding me up to the standards. Considering that the parts you have pointed out are located in the second half of the article - "Secessionist movements", do you have any reservations if I recreate the upper parts before the "Secessionist movements" from the backup of my version, or do you have some additional comments with regards to it at this point? As I mentioned below all the information provided there has reference sources and/or refers to the articles containing such sources. Krispe13 (talk) 10:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the comment about "no sources found" as an argument for reversion, I am a bit confused, considering the list of sources that I have added to my change (see them listed below). Moreover you can find multiple "see also"/"see further" templates being used, such as:
- - Congress of the Enslaved Peoples of Russia
- - Polish–Soviet War
- - Prometheism
- - Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations
- - Dissolution of the Soviet Union
- - Belovezha Accords
- etc. where all additional details are provided.
- 3. Holian, Anna (2011-08-30). Between National Socialism and Soviet Communism: Displaced Persons in Postwar Germany . University of Michigan Press. ISBN 978-0-472- 11780-2.
- 4. Zetterberg, Seppo (1978). Die Liga der Fremdvölker Russlands 1916-1918 [The League of Foreign Nations of Russia 1916- 1918] (PDF) (in German). Helsinki.
- 5. Margolin, Arnold (1922). Украина и политика Антанты : (записки еврея и гражданина) [Ukraine and Entente politics : (notes of a Jew and a citizen)] (in Russian).
- "Сталин Ленину по вопросу автономизации сентябрь - 1922 г." ["From Stalin's report to Lenin on the question of autonomization" - September 1922]. his95.narod.ru (in Russian). 2001. Retrieved 2024-05-24.
- "Роман Смаль-Стоцький. «Український Прометей» національно-визвольного руху народів СРСР" [Roman Smal-Stotsky. The “Ukrainian Prometheus” of the National Liberation Movement of the Peoples of the USSR]. szru.gov.ua (in ua). Retrieved 2024-05-24.
- 6."Petlurians and Prometheus" (PDF). CIA Archives.
- 58. "Степное Уложение (Конституция) Республики Калмыкия" [The Steppe Statute (Constitution) of the Republic of Kalmykia.]. glava.region08.ru. Retrieved 2024-05-24.
- 62. Chernin, Velvl (2023-12-30). "Kalmykia: Ethnic Separatism in the Lower Volga Region" . Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies. Retrieved 2024-05-24.
- 71. "HOME | The Council Of United Circassia" . United Circassia. Retrieved 2024-05-24.
- 72. "Appeal to Antonio Guterres, United Nations Secretary General, from Council of United Cirsassia" (PDF). 2024. Archived from the original (PDF) on 24 May 2024. Retrieved 24 May 2024.
- 73. "Mustafa Canbek's Speech on Kyiv Conference 2023" .Archived from the original Krispe13 (talk) 02:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you are referring to the sentences with the facts containing the date and the name of republic created, then there is not logical way of rephrasing them and as stated in the "Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources" the facts cannot be copy-righted. With exception of the topics with very limited number of trusted sources, the rest was my original text. No parts that were added by other users were removed, contrary to your statement. Krispe13 (talk) 01:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I consider material cut-and pasted from modern day websites, such as https://besacenter.org/kalmykia-ethnic-separatism-in-the-lower-volga-region/, to be a blatant copyright violation. If you have any questions on Wikipedia's copyright policy, there are editors at the teahouse who would be happy to guide you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)