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Smile

I made the smile bigger than normal because I owe you a few years of interest. PhantomTech[talk] 11:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

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Emails

Hi Kevin, just checking - can you confirm whether you received the two e-mails I sent yesterday? I still don't know how I managed to mute that thread; I think I've undone it but just wanted to make sure. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 07:43, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

We did. Thank you, @Girth Summit   KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 07:51, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

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Update: Phase II of DS reform now open for comment

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RfC on Vector (2022) - draft

Hello! I'm reaching to you as a person both experienced in reading and closing discussions, and introduced to the context of Vector (2022) as the possible future default. Would you like to review the draft of the RfC? I'm open to any comments regarding how we've framed it, its clarity, length, arguments and data presented, things missing (if any). Thank you!

Also, I like your standing message to experienced Wikipedians. This is gold. I've shared this approach for years, but until today, I haven't had it stated in writing. I've taken the liberty and copied it over to my user page, ofc not without attribution. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 15:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @SGrabarczuk, thanks for letting me know about the new page. I'll be sure to take a look. I'm glad to hear you liked the note on my userpage. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:44, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Your close

Thank you for your close. I found it thoughtful and reasonable, and even-handed. Several of your notes were insightful. I am glad that at least an affirmative consensus was found, which means that it wasn't a "waste of time" as some have alleged although Fox News' reliability was not broadly revisited, there now exists a precedent of consensus that Fox News is not generally reliable.

One question that I had was whether you accorded lesser weight to some of the arguments that "certain level of errors is the journalistic norm, that many other reliable sources are in the same realm of reliability as Fox News," given for example, that lack of weight afforded to similar types of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and whataboutism from, for example, the close of the Daily Mail RFC, or a close rationale I saw from other closers in the past, i.e. discussion of other sources having a similar level of errors or other sources being similarly reliable to Fox lacked evidence and wasn't strictly relevant to the question of what constitutes a "reputation for fact checking and accuracy." I do not question the close as I understand the logic and the rationale, but can you comment on whether the community has upheld the precedents of the Daily Mail RFC and other past RFCs on the general expectations of sources and of RFCs. Andre🚐 21:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Andrevan. I did not downweight arguments that a certain level of errors is inherent to the journalistic process, which is how I interpreted many of the comments. Those comments were relevant to the question of what degree of a reputation for fact checking and accuracy the community demands from its reliable sources, and there is no broader community consensus about that question, so I did not exclude them. However, I viewed arguments about whether other news sources should be downgraded as outside the scope of the RfC and did not consider them. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 21:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Note

Today I did an interview with a journalist from Slate (magazine) about the Fox News RfC. I didn't discuss anything that I wouldn't have discussed on-wiki upon request; in particular, I strived only to explain the closing statement and the process of closing a discussion, and did not express views about whether the community's decision was correct or what outcome I would have preferred. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 06:41, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

User:LucyAyoubFan

Good evening, from Portugal,

two new accounts by this utter nuisance, User:Ândrea Canto and User:Onepluspne. Both rarely used thus far, but the M.O. (both on Miguel Vítor - especially there! - and Jesús Rueda (footballer)) is unmistakable.

You have been briefed, continue the good work --2001:8A0:767B:9C00:A9F7:3739:2CC1:EEC3 (talk) 21:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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Reply to Redacted Comment ?

In the arbitrators' opinions on the TNT case, you wrote: EverGrounded, your request is out of scope. You have caused at least one editor to go searching for something that cannot be found. Was the request redacted when the requester was blocked as a troll? Maybe it wasn't necessary to reply to something that was about to be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for writing. I will give it consideration when commenting in the future. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 00:59, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for the bump, Gerda, I'll take a look as soon as I'm able to. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 15:35, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: FYI, I meant to do this a couple days ago but have been very busy IRL (I was accompanying someone close to me at the ED – they're home now and stable) and have not had much of a chance to work on this. I will try and answer well before voting closes. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 07:16, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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The above proposals that are supported by an absolute majority of unrecused active arbitrators are hereby enacted. The drafting arbitrators (CaptainEek, L235, and Wugapodes) are directed to take the actions necessary to bring the proposals enacted by this motion into effect, including by amending the procedures at WP:AC/P and WP:AC/DS. The authority granted to the drafting arbitrators by this motion expires one month after enactment.

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Have I been cleared of any wrongdoing, or am I still under investigation? CanadianScotNationalist (talk) 17:04, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

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Two mass messages?

I guess it's just that important, huh? In all seriousness, though, I've done stuff like that before, so you have my sympathy. jp×g 22:35, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea how that happened – I definitely only clicked the button once! (And Special:Log/massmessage seems to confirm that? No idea what happened.) KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 22:36, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Oh well. Perhaps I can soothe the pain with a box of solidarity:
  Seven score and four years ag–
wait, shit, let me try that again
From one MassMessage sender to another: I feel your pain. jp×g 22:42, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

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Protection

Saw your action. Dunno if you saw what I did too. Either way no worries. Seems like we were both looking at the same issue. - jc37 09:07, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Just a note - starting to see issues at that talk page. Apparently including some rev del. As yours was the last protection, just thought I'd let you know that that was going on. - jc37 16:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, L235,
I think you were wrong to remove all protection from User_talk:Scottywong. It has been besieged by trolls. I would like to semi-protect it but I'm not going to override your decision, just ask that you look at the page history from today. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Just FYI, here's a discussion we had last night a few minutes after Scotty fully protected his talk page last night. Liz Read! Talk! 04:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
@Liz, apologies, go for it if you'd like. I considered my action merely technical and if you have feelings the other way don't regard my action as standing in the way. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 08:18, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Looks like Daniel Case added a 3-day ec protection. - jc37 15:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, it was requested at RFPP since the trolling continued from autoconfirmed accounts (now all blocked indef, but there might be more sleeper socks out there). Daniel Case (talk) 17:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

ArbCom case - active/inactive?

Hi L:235,

The decision in the AlisonW case is missing two votes, and it so happens that you are listed as Active on this case and haven't voted. Do you intend to participate?

Cheers, — kashmīrī TALK 13:15, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

@Kashmiri: Thanks for the note. Yes, I am following the case and still considering my vote, which I will probably be entering today. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 14:12, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
 
Five years!

On the 10th anniversary of the Infoboxes arbcase ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for the catch

I knew autopatrolled wasn't bundled anymore, but for some reason I must have unchecked it anyway. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 17:59, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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@NMW03: The Committee received your email and is discussing. Please feel free to bump us on it if we don't get back to you in the next week or so. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 17:22, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Banned tag

It’s not showing, put it under the other templates. - 49.181.47.2 (talk) 15:54, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

This is by design. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 15:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023 at Women in Red

 
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