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A vs an

No, "an RAF" should be used rather than "a RAF". An is used rather than a before a word starting with a vowel or vowel sound. As "RAF" is pronounced "R", "A", "F", and not as "raff", and thus starts with a vowel sound, an is the correct form.

See A, an and compare google searches on "a RAF" vs. "an RAF".

Sc147 15:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Cable landing point

I've replied on my talk page. WLD 12:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for all of the names of people who were diagnosed with breast cancer. I've added some of them and am still working on the many others.

Since you have been very kind to provide this information, I wonder if you could add a comment about the fact that certain people want to merge the List of notable breast cancer patients according to occupation and the List of notable breast cancer patients according to survival status. The occupation list is much more comprehensive, but that's the one that they want to delete. The survival status is more basic, but it serves a vital purpose in allowing anyone interested to quickly ignore those who have died and concentrate on the living - either for charity purposes or just for inspiration without depression as might happen if a person was viewing a list that was interspersed with the dead as well as the living.

It seems as though some people are voting to merge the lists without even indicating why and without even bothering to appear to read the reasons given for one or the other choice and responding to those reasons. I'm not that expert, but it seems as though it would be a total waste of time to just delete all of that vital information just because people, who probably have not been affected by breast cancer, don't realize the value of both lists.

I'm tired of arguing with some of these people over what appear to be petty issues when I could be actually working to make wikipedia more comprehensive. It makes me wonder if some of these people are just full-time critics rather than contributors.

Thanks again for all of your leads!Bcsurvivor 22:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. I put a long list from the DNB on your page then realised it was on the User Page rather than Discussion Page so deleted it though you can still get it from history. If you want more details on any of the names on the list then contact me and I can look up in the DNB. --jmb 23:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I just read what you wrote re: the merge, and I really appreciate it. Also, I did find that long list of all of those names, and I was amazed. I have added a few, and I'm going to work on more tomorrow. I really appreciate it because it can be hard to find out who was diagnosed with breast cancer. Thanks again! Bcsurvivor 03:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Dangerous Energy - List of ROF's

Hi Jmb, thanks for your comments.

I have Dangerous Energy - a great book, it was some 12 months late comming out due to the run down of the Royal Commission on Historic Monuments in England and its absorption into English Heritage. I bought it full price in 2000, its now greatly reduced (less than 25% of list price). I also have Nevell, Roberts & Smith, and I'm listed in the Subscribers (but not as Pyrotec!).

I have to agree that ROF Capenhurst, etc, which are in Cocroft's list, are missing from the Wikipeda List of ROFs - Capenhurst became a nuclear site. I've tended to use the Official Histories of the Second War War, Civil Series, some of which I listed in some of the individual ROF pages; and they are not complete. It would have been easier to use Cocroft, I just got into the habit of doing it the way I'd always done it. I also discovered a remaindered book on 20th century Industrial Archaeology, by Stratton and Trinder, which includes some ROFs.

I started working on railways in Scotland, just for a change, but I'm coming back onto doing some more ROFs. Pyrotec 21:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. I saw it later listed as a reference for one of the ROF pages. All the English Heritage books tend to be late out - there is one on WWII radar that has been promised for the last few years but still no sign of it appearing. I only came across the Civil Series when someone found one secondhandin a gift shop for a few quid! I am watching out for any others now as I would like to get some of them. I started mysewlf listing radar stations on a Wiki page, I think I have all the Chain Home stations and when I get time will add a list of Chain Home Low, perhaps later add pages with photographs for the ones i have visited. --jmb 22:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I have Works & Buildings; Labour in the Munitions Industries; Factories & Plant; Contracts & Finance; and, Administration of War Production - but for 45 to 55-ish year old books, they are quite expensive from 2nd hand internet bookshops, and still a few more to get. Southampton Univ still has a complete set on its shelves! Pyrotec 22:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I take it that you have seen that there are some site visits to ROF sites on the Sub Brit website? --jmb 10:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the web link. I was a member of Sub Brit from about 1979 to 1985, but dropped out. I came across their ROF Sywnnerton visit a year or so ago, but lost their web link; I see they have also have Trecwn.

I was at ROF Chorley this Wednesday so I took a small number of photos, for possible uploading. Pyrotec 22:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Halliwell

Hello,

I was editing other things in the Halliwell Article, and didn't take notice of the Date of Death. I Googled him and the sources that give the 29th are mostly taking their info from Wiki. But the DNB date seems far more reliable. Please have the honor of changing it in the Article.

Regards,

Michael David 15:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

OK done, I put the full name of the hospice there as well. I don't know if you are aware but you can get online access to the DNB and other reference sources through many public libraries. Several give online membership even if you do not live in the area, including Bedfordshire and Manchester.

Thank you for the reference source tip - I am going to look into it here.

By the way, I, too, remember typewriters - I did all of my college work on one. Also, I'll do you one better on the rotary telephones; I remember when you would pick up the receiver and a voice would ask you "number please".

I also dream of visiting Scotland one day.

Be healthy,

Michael David 17:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I just found the thingies with the typewriter and rotary phone somewhere in Wiki. I only just gave up my rotary phone a month ago when I retired. Two weeks out of three I was on call 24/7 and found the bell on the old 760 rotary phone would wake me better than the bleeps of modern phones so kept it (the company paid the rental). If you join Bedfordshire Library you get your ID/password immediately, Manchester post the card. It might be worth checking your own local library as most just use their library card number. There are some very good sources available online through them. --jmb 20:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Jmb,

Is the E-mail address on your User Page still active; and, if it is, would you mind if I communicated with you that way - just to chat?

Michael David 21:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

If you follow the link to My Site you will find an EMail address. --jmb 23:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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Burghead mast

Please see note at Talk:Burghead transmitting station re {reqphotoin|Scotland}. I was passing and am not sure if the image is appropriate. Ben MacDui 08:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

OK - thanks. I 've put the image on the article page. Ben MacDui 17:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Test Area

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Caledonian Canal

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Tristan da Cunha

It was nice to read your comments about the article in the telegraph today. It's got me intrigued but I haven't read it. Perhaps you have time to put the information into Tristan da Cunha. SuzanneKn 21:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll see if anyone with no knowledge of the place incorporates it into the main article. --jmb 22:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Poll options on Fred Dibnah's birthplace

I've started a poll on Talk:Fred_Dibnah with four options for his birthplace area. As you've left posts on that discussion page, I'm letting you know about this Poll and the chance to vote one of the options. Cwb61 (talk) 23:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Penmon / Puffin Island

I see you've carried out your suggestion for me already! Thanks again for your very helpful links to the NS pages - I can see myself doing little work this afternoon as I read through what's there! Bencherlite 13:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

The other historical site has a mass of information on it if you dig around. Other sites to check on historical stuff are Old Maps, RCAHMW, COFLEIN. You might find something at GENUKI, they often have old directories. I spent nearly a year at Llanddona (many years ago). --jmb 15:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

RNGF Westhoughton

Hi Jmb, That was not a question that I had come across before. I did a search and found this [1]. So it looks like it is WW I era. I'll start looking at WW I, to see what else comes up; but I won't have much time to do anything in June. Pyrotec 01:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I found the same one in the Bolton Evening News which confirmed the name. This is the message that was posted.

I am doing some research into the Royal Naval Gun Factory with was at James Street Westhoughton. It was built around 1909 and I have here a booklet on the Particulars of the Factory which was to be sold by auction in 1924.

There were some houses built in Church Street and they were the Admiralty Houses, built for the employees of the Gun Works.

There were several large electric overhead travelling cranes and the factory was equipped with very sophisticated Power Plant for the time.

There are some references to Royal Gun Factories at the end of the 19th Century and nothing matches on RNGF in the TNA. I have suggested she ask the Museum of Naval Firepower to see if they know anything. --jmb 08:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

C vs BNC connector

Concerning the image PICT7389 trimmed-C.jpg and your comment "Restore page, incorrect removal of picture, They are C connectors, I took the picture and know the difference between a C and BNC." from the C connector page, the description of the picture states, "This shows the similarity between 50Ω and 75Ω BNC connectors.". If these connectors are C connectors, then they are incorrectly described as BNC connectors. Unsigned comment "04:24, 16 June 2007 Fl295 (Talk | contribs) (14,912 bytes)"

The picture on the C Connector is of 50 ohm and 75 ohm C connectors, the picture on the BNC connector page is of 50 ohm and 75 ohm connectors. They are two different pictures. They are in a Greenpar ISA box. I took the pictures because many people are unaware that are very similar connectors available in the two impedances - the red colour is just a way of displaying the difference on the ISA adaptors and not used on actual connectors. --jmb 07:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand. My confusion came from the description on the picture's own page that was copied from Wikimedia Commons, "C Connectors. This shows the similarity between 50Ω and 75Ω BNC connectors. The red ones are 75Ω (only coloured because part of a kit of Inter Series Adaptors. It can be seen that the inner pin of the 50Ω plug is bigger than the 75Ω plug which causes damage if incorrectly used." Perhaps the image's description can be corrected? Fl295 13:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Corrected (I think!). --jmb 17:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:131-3176 IMG 1 radar suit.jpg

Hello. The image Image:131-3176 IMG 1 radar suit.jpg which you uploaded is marked with a copyright tag which means you cannot release under a free license. The alternative would be to reupload the image without the copyright and release under an attribution license, something like {{Cc-by-2.5}}. Let me know if you need any help with this. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 03:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I always select

"Own work, attribution required (Multi-licence with GFDL and Creative Commons CC-BY 3.0)"

because it is the only option including "attribution", I don't mind putting my photos on Wikipedia and else then letting people use them provided they attribute the source. I try to mark any pictures that I publish with my name to identify the origin if reproduced elsewhere. --jmb 06:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough but per Wikipedia:Image use policy, watermarked images will end up being deleted because the watermark is distracting and potentially misleading. Note that the watermark itself would be trivial to erase for anyone intent on not attributing you as the source so the protection it gives is minimal. You have uploaded a number of quality images and I really hope that you can reconsider. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 14:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

lancs elec power comp

Thanks for creating this topic. I rarely have the opportunity to visit libraries and as you can imagine info on such an old company is difficult to find ont'internet. If theres anything in your information sources about the Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal, even if its just the location of the transfer of coal from the canal to the station, it would be fantastic if you could contribute to that. Parrot of Doom 17:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want, I can scan some pages and send to you. The book was published by a company specialising in Lancashire history and is A4 with soft-cover, sort of magazine format so quite inexpensive. --jmb 23:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

That would be interesting reading. Please email me when convenient, theres no rush, you can contact me at the 'email this user' link address in the toolbox section. The canals are my main interest, but as I find more history along their length I find myself creating more and more articles on these elements... Parrot of Doom 13:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I was trying to remember how you send a proper Email here! I will scan some pages later and send to you. --jmb 14:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Black Down decoy

Hi & thanks for your comment. I've replied on my talkpage.Pyrotec (talk) 20:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reference, I now have a copy of Fields of Deception - there's some good reading in it.Pyrotec (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello there

I see you are interested in the Life On Mars Television Series, as I am.

At the moment I have A Life On Mars Wikiproject currently up for approval by the Wikiproject Approval Council. As you are interested in Life On Mars I was wondering if you would be interested in adding your name and joining. If you are interested you can find it on Wikipedia: WikiProject Council/Proposals its right at the very bottom you cant miss it as its titled ‘Wikipedia: Wikiproject Life on Mars (Television Series)’. And after your name is added to Wikiproject propsals please add it to the main page Wikipedia:Wikiproject Life On Mars

If you are interested by all means feel free to join

Regards

Police,Mad,Jack —Preceding comment was added at 20:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:J M Briscoe27 01 2008-15 56 16-03133 AQUA BOY.jpg

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Conversion

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Tyndrum

I was reading up on railways, and became somewhat puzzled by Tyndrum. I wonder if you possibly know the answer (given that you live nearby),

In 05/06:

• Tyndrum Lower Station had 7,481 entries&exits
• Upper Tyndrum had 128 entries&exits

In 06/07:

• Tyndrum Lower Station had 17 (!) entries&exits (making it the UK's least used station abruptly)
• Upper Tyndrum had 7529 entries&exits

Have you any idea why everyone suddenly switched from one station to the other? Presently (although I don't have the old timetables) about 3 journeys a day serve each station.

Cheers, 92.2.71.0 (talk) 22:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(This was me sorry. Ian¹³/t 22:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC))

Sorry but don't know. I have never seen the Tyndrum Lower station but Tyndrum Upper appears to be a larger station. I would think most passengers will be coming up from Glasgow and so there are the same number of trains a day - the train splits at Crianlarich. They both seem to have the same number of trains a day in the timetable (except for the sleeper on the Fort William line). Could there have been a landslide or something on the Oban line, closing it for a time? --jmb (talk) 23:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Images

Hi jmb.

Thanks for the message on my talk page. I still add the occasional image but no longer contribute anything under 'Fair use'. I uploaded a considerable number of these over the past few years and, at the time, most of the other fair use images I came across had no 'rationale' whatsoever, so I added what I thought was a reasonable one to all of mine. Then later on, the Wikipedia 'Copyright Police' suddenly decided to change the criteria and instead of just revising a tag when they came across them, started leaving me automated messages on my talk page and expecting me to go back to each image and do a lengthy revision of the tag and description.

As regards your images then try the tag that has 'recommended' after the name - that's what I've been using. I just added an image here: Image:House Sparrow (3).jpg - see the line ... under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, ... and in addition, the GNU Free Documentation License (second box on image page) also requires attribution. Hope this helps. Regards, Ian Dunster (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

The whole system seems to be biased in favour of Wikipedia and anyone wanting to re-use the images. I am sure I am not only one who has been put off posting images which seems a loss for Wikipedia. --jmb (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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Tx articles

Hi - you may be interested in the discussion currently going on in Category talk:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom. --Harumphy (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I will have a more careful read in the morning when more awake! --jmb (talk) 01:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

O'Toole

If you have any further material relating to O'Toole can you post it on the talk page. Also remember that we just reflect what the main sources say and that WP:OR cannot be included. Happy to consider any material on O'Toole but if most sources state something that's what I'm inclined to go with without a good reason why.. As far as I can see you have one source that disputes this. Am I correct? Kernel Saunters (talk) 15:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Someone that I know has been researching him and is going to get something published. I was just pointing out that one dodgy source tends to get repeated on many sites but it does not become any more accurate because it has been repeated many times.

I could put on a website that he was born in Timbuktu then get a dozen other websites to repeat it but it would still be wrong. --jmb (talk) 16:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Caledonian Canal

Looks good having a direct link to your website there, I think that will go down as advertising and be removed, good luck though. You would be better off creating a wiki page for your barge with no advertising content and then linking to that. This way you are only displaying encyclepedic infomation even though the links. Looks like you have been on wiki alot longer than me though so maybe your right, if so I will pop my external link next to yours though I feel it would be a shame to use such a great page as the caledonian canal page for pure advertising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver Barge (talk • contribs) 16:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Bangor University

Re the removal: general consensus is to list those with articles on en-wiki. Ironholds (talk) 18:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It was just that the other name was added a bit messily so thought that the name had been unintentionally deleted. Aled Eames had a distinguished history at Bangor so I would have thought he should be included. --jmb (talk) 23:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Then write an en-wiki article for him, methinks! Shouldn't be too difficult if you have draft material to work off, and a DYK is not to be sneezed at :). Ironholds (talk) 10:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Should we order the records?

Hello, Jmb! The Telegraph article clearly says: "Leian Paul Piper was born in Swindon on September 22, 1982. On April 25, 1983, her name was officially changed to Billie Paul Piper by her parents, Paul Victor Piper and Mandy Kane Kent." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1435159/Family-Detective.html

The pay Vital Statistic site says that Leian Paul Piper's and Billie Paul Piper's mother's maiden is Kent. The Growing Pains autobiography says Lianne Piper and Billie Paul Piper.

I have a question for you. If I order both Vital Statistics records (Leian Paul Piper Q4 1982 Swindon Mother Kent v23 p1881 & Billie Paul Piper Q4 1982 Swindon Mother Kent v23 p1881), scan and upload them, will it suffice to show the birth is indeed Leian Paul Piper or will the autobiography still override it?

Should a more established editor order those records, scan and upload them? I'm willing to send them the money by PayPal. Israell (talk) 02:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that if she has changed her name legally then a note has been added to the Birth Certificate rather than there being two seperate certificates, this will explain why it has the same reference number. If you do order one up then order direct from the GRO where they cost about £9.50, some companies advertise BMD certificates online at much higher prices but only get them from the GRO and forward on. (There is a more expensive priority service available from the GRO but again companies advertise this at even higher prices). Someone in the Swindon area might be able to check the Baptism record in a church register (if she was baptised) but I don't think that would show the name change. You could also try the local library / archive in Swindon as the name change might have appeared in a local newspaper at the time but not sure what the procedure is for name changes - I am sure it must be publicised somewhere at the time, could even be in the London Gazette? I just checked because I have access to the BMD through Ancestry. --jmb (talk) 08:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)--jmb (talk) 08:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Dorothy Levitt

WoooHooo, brilliant. 1,000 thanks. I spent countless hours searching and writing to people looking for anything about her later life. Maybe this will lead onto finding out what she did. Thanks again. Autodidactyl (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I was just about to give up! There are so many interlocking bits of information that I think it must be her.

I wondered if she might have got involved in driving an ambulance during WWI? Might be something in the records of organisations like FANY.

I have looked in London parish records but can't see her death but probably needs a check in Jewish records. --jmb (talk) 22:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Probate --jmb (talk) 22:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Well done Jmb, great detective work. Perusing your user page leads me to suspect that you may be qualified to solve The Great Laverstock Panda mystery described here http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/villages/fovbadge1.shtml Regards Chienlit (talk) 08:49, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds quite possible that it was UCNW Rag week, because of the small size of Bangor collectors used to go out all over the UK. Also Rag stunts were often done in distant places, during my time we went down to London for a couple of stunts as well as one nearer home when we captured Harlech Castle. I might even have a copy of the Rag magazine with the Panda on it! --jmb (talk) 09:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

No admission of guilt then? :) I have a suspicion that there may be a Sussex connection for Dorothy, but I have no ability to investigate. The original BBC radio play implied a country / Sussex lifestyle - possibly pure fiction. She drove at South Harting and Brighton and Bexhill on Sea etc. Levitts are noted in the East Grinstead area, see http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Sussex/EastGrinsteadWW2Civilian.html. ... and Selwyn Edge had an estate at Ditchling, Sussex. If you are minded to do any more this may help. But thanks anyway for your major breakthrough. Chienlit (talk) 09:46, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

After my time at UCNW, it does ring a bell though. It was such a small place that you tended to hear about anything happening.

A friend found this reference to Dorothy Levitt learning to fly a balloon.

I found another tree on Ancestry that already had hear death as 1922 and the tree had not been updated for six months. It also had another sister who died when only just over one year old. But the tree had her other sister dying in 1959 and I think it was 1963. Sent a message to see if the person knows any more. I think the only way we will find more is if some descendant of her sister turns up. --jmb (talk) 16:29, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I read (and reread) you friend's reference differently. Dorothy was a failed flyer, not least because the Antoinette was a bitch to fly (wing warping etc) and only Hubert Latham ever fully mastered it. If only Dorothy had joined Louis Blériot's flying school, a matter of yards away at Mourmelon-le-Grand she would probably have qualified on the much simpler Bleriot plane.

... Whereas Edith Maud Cook (aka Viola Spencer-Kavanagh) apparently had a momentous 1910 - first english woman to fly an aircraft, and then died from injuries following a jump from a balloon at Coventry on 9 July 1910. Chienlit (talk) 18:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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It's come up again...

You might want to have a quick look at the Gee talk page. I'm seriously considering moving it to "Gee" unless someone has a good reason not to. Dippy's own article on the topic called it "Gee", so that's my good reason. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

RAF Signals 1939-1945

With this edit you introduced a non existent template into the Gee (navigation) article. it is called Template:RAF Signals 1939-1945 was that your intention of are you trying to cite a book with something like the {{harvnb}}, {{cite book}} pair? -- PBS (talk) 09:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Not sure how I put the "{" there, removed now.

There is more information on the Continental GEE chains but it is bit ambiguous and difficult to sort out so I lost interest in it. jmb (talk) 10:11, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. "RAF Signals 1939-1945" is it a book or an archive? Has it been published? Have you given enough information so that if someone wants to verify the source they can? -- PBS (talk) 01:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

It was one of the official histories produced at the end of WWII and should be available at some archives. I don't think a printed copy was generally released. I would think it is the primary source used in most of the books and references about radar history in WWII. jmb (talk) 10:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I had a look at Google books but could not find "RAF Signals 1939-1945" but what I did find was The Second World War, 1939-1945, Royal Air Force, Signals would that be the tome? If so which volume and do you have page numbers? -- PBS (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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