Laurence Drum

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Samwalton9 (talk) 23:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Laurence Drum, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!

NetDev Ltd Article for Creation

Hi Laurence, firstly sorry about the red links, we use a helpful script to review articles, allowing us to do it far quicker than we could manually, and for some reason when it was converting your URLs to wikilinks it messed up the formatting and broke them all, I've just fixed that for you, sorry about that. In the future you can link directly to other Wikipedia articles using square brackets, no need to use the whole web address, like so: [[Earth]] giving Earth or if you wanted the text to say something other than the article name, [[Earth|Our planet]] giving Our planet. As for the article itself, Wikipedia requires that you source your information to reliable independent sources to prove that the information is true and the subject is notable. These sources must be reliable ones with a reputation for fact checking (news websites, newspapers, published books, scientific papers, etc) and not be related to or written by the subject (that means no Press Releases, not their own website, and not written by anyone who works for them). You cite these sources using the method described at WP:REFBEGIN. Hope this helps, Samwalton9 (talk) 12:39, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, not a problem. I have added a some references to the article. However, how is the best way to add them to the reference list at the bottom? Thanks for your help. Laurence Laurence Drum (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. The references auto-populate in the {{reflist}} template I've just added at the bottom. Samwalton9 (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic! Thank you for doing that. Do you think I could resubmit the article now and it will be approved? Laurence Laurence Drum (talk) 15:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you could do with better reliable sources. Two of them only mention the company in passing, not really containing much information about them, and the other is an interview; essentially a primary source. Samwalton9 (talk) 15:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback Unfortunately they have now decided to delete the page? Is there a way of getting it back? Laurence Drum (talk) 12:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I noticed. I should have checked whether the article was a copyright violation when I was looking at it before, sorry for not doing so, would have saved us both some time. As written below, all text on Wikipedia is released under a creative commons license, but if the text being used is copied from somewhere that has not been released under such a licence the text has to be immediately removed. This applies to anywhere on the site and as such you won't be able to get a copy of the writing. Samwalton9 (talk) 13:43, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, I have taken the feedback on board and started developing the article once more. I am currently in the process of polishing it up. However I would really appreciate your feedback on it? Laurence Drum (talk) 17:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi again Laurence. You've started writing the article but haven't shown where any of the information is sourced from; we currently have no proof that any of it is true! My advice to you is to find reliable sources talking about the company (if they exist), and write what they have to say, rather than the other way around. It will help you realise if the company isn't a good topic for Wikipedia, because you won't be able to find any information, or if they are notable, to be able to write a great article that will be accepted easily. Taking it to one extreme, an article with single sentences stating assorted well sourced facts about a subject is preferable to one that has loads of content and very little sourcing. We at least know everything said in the former is true. Samwalton9 (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, apologies, I am going to work the citations in just didn't want to spend that extra time putting them in if the article won't suffice to get published.

Copyright violation in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/NetDev Ltd

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Hi there, How do I go about getting this page back so that I can make the changes.

Thanks Laurence Laurence Drum (talk) 13:34, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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September 2015

Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. If you want to add Drum to List of video telecommunication services and product brands, please write the article first. Please note that new articles must satisfy the notability guideline and core content policies. Thank you. Dodi 8238 (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)