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I wanted to try and start a dialogue with you about some of the information you are introducing into biographical articles. Your edits today (19:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)) appear to all be citing information from the interfraternity council's blog. I don't believe this to be a reliable source, myself, and initially confused your editing for linkspamming.

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To clarify, i wasn't saying it's not relevant information. in some people's lives/careers/public-faces it clearly is. And I want to encourage you to continue to add useful information. I am not in any way attempting to discourage you from your clearly motivated and good faith efforts to improve WP. when i said "have a conversation" i really did mean it. I think it's worthy of doing a bit more research on, on both our parts, to find out relevant precedents, guidance, etc here on WP. It is an interesting issue.
And just FYI, i just found out that WP has a whole separate page, list of policies, that collects (presumably) all core content/behavior policies into one place. I think WP:RS is one of the more relevant ones to the blog posts, and possibly the yearbook thing as well. again, happy to discuss it further. -- UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 23:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think there's nothing more I could have asked than looking-into-it-more.
There appear to be several discussions (more available) about the use of high school yearbooks, and it's not just me that is uncomfortable with them, though for clear and unambiguous statements of fact that seems like it could be ok. There is possibly a related issue of notability, because if the person's membership in a fraternal organization is not mentioned by reliable sources then it stands to reason that that membership would not be considered notable.
This is definitely something that I will follow with interest. I can make inquiries myself but i also wonder whether it might not be more useful for you to make them, since it's your interest? It doesn't appear that you've used the noticeboards at all in your time here, and so since you clearly have a lengthy history and personal investment in editing, it might be helpful for you to get a sense of how that sort of thing is done, navigating the noticeboards and policies and such?
I hope that doesn't come off as condescending, I've been here for much less time than you have, clearly. I'm also happy to make inquiries to try and sort things out. I just think there might be more benefit from someone with a genuine interest in the material to be the one asking the questions. I'm more interested in the policy details, myself.
If you want some suggestions for where to start searching/asking i'd be happy to try and help, too. -- UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 00:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
I don't think you can be in any way faulted for not reading the policies, especially if noone's ever followed up with you about your edits; I don't think wikipedia eve had policies when you started editing!
Anyway, best of luck with school, I am in much the same boat, though a different kind of program. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. -- UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 00:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

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