User talk:Legoktm/February 2024
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
Administrator changes
Bureaucrat changes
Guideline and policy news
- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
Technical news
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
Arbitration
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
- Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
- Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
- The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Coverme
Hello friend. You're the maintainer of coverme, right? I tried to use it this morning and it seems like it is timing out. I get Wikimedia Toolforge Error. Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again later.
after a couple minutes. Might need fixing when you get a chance. Thanks and enjoy your vacation! –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: could you file this in Phab so it doesn't get lost? Legoktm (talk) 17:40, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, will do. Thanks for the quick reply! –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I want a new list
User:WhatamIdoing/Possibly underlinked medicine articles from Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 85#Early idea is going to be empty very soon. Could you give me a new list from Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa and Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink? It can go in the same page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
TFA Protector Bot
Hello Legoktm, the bot seems to have stopped applying edit protection to TFAs? JennyOz (talk) 04:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why, but it stalled at 2024-02-01T23:00:16.584686Z. I've restarted it for now, will look in more detail later this week. Legoktm (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for restarting. JennyOz (talk) 08:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-06
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. If you hear of any problems relating to mobile history usage please point them to the phabricator task.
- On most wikis, admins can now block users from making specific actions. These actions are: uploading files, creating new pages, moving (renaming) pages, and sending thanks. The goal of this feature is to allow admins to apply blocks that are adequate to the blocked users' activity. Learn more about "action blocks". [1][2]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar). [3][4]- Talk pages permalinks that included diacritics and non-Latin script were malfunctioning. This issue is fixed. [5]
Future changes
- 24 Wikipedias with Reference Tooltips as a default gadget are encouraged to remove that default flag. This would make Reference Previews the new default for reference popups, leading to a more consistent experience across wikis. For 46 Wikipedias with less than 4 interface admins, the change is already scheduled for mid-February, unless there are concerns. The older Reference Tooltips gadget will still remain usable and will override this feature, if it is available on your wiki and you have enabled it in your settings. [6][7]
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Hello, Legoktm,
I think the bot needs to be restarted or get a tune-up. It's not just the report I use, it looks like it overslept. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 03:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 13 February 2024
- News and notes: Wikimedia Russia director declared "foreign agent" by Russian gov; EU prepares to pile on the papers
- Disinformation report: How low can the scammers go?
- Serendipity: Is this guy the same as the one who was a Nazi?
- Traffic report: Griselda, Nikki, Carl, Jannik and two types of football
- Crossword: Our crossword to bear
- Comix: Strongly
Tech News: 2024-07
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The WDQS Graph Split experiment is working and loaded onto 3 test servers. The team in charge is testing the split's impact and requires feedback from WDQS users through the UI or programmatically in different channels. [8][9][10] Users' feedback will validate the impact of various use cases and workflows around the Wikidata Query service. [11][12]
Problems
- There was a bug that affected the appearance of visited links when using mobile device to access wiki sites. It made the links appear black; this issue is fixed.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar). [13][14]
As work continues on the grid engine deprecation,[15] tools on the grid engine will be stopped starting on February 14th, 2024. If you have tools actively migrating you can ask for an extension so they are not stopped. [16]
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Tech News: 2024-08
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- If you have the "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed" option enabled, edits by bot accounts no longer trigger notification emails. Previously, only minor edits would not trigger the notification emails. [17]
- There are changes to how user and site scripts load for Vector 2022 on specific wikis. The changes impacted the following Wikis: all projects with Vector legacy as the default skin, Wikivoyage, and Wikibooks. Other wikis will be affected over the course of the next three months. Gadgets are not impacted. If you have been affected or want to minimize the impact on your project, see this ticket. Please coordinate and take action proactively.
- Newly auto-created accounts (the accounts you get when you visit a new wiki) now have the same local notification preferences as users who freshly register on that wiki. It is effected in four notification types listed in the task's description.
- The maximum file size when using Upload Wizard is now 5 GiB. [18]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar). [19][20]
- Selected tools on the grid engine have been stopped as we prepare to shut down the grid on March 14th, 2024. The tool's code and data have not been deleted. If you are a maintainer and you want your tool re-enabled reach out to the team. Only tools that have asked for extension are still running on the grid.
- The CSS
filterproperty can now be used in HTMLstyleattributes in wikitext. [21]
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While investigating why User:B-bot hadn't tagged a particular unused nonfree image - it doesn't matter which one, it turned out to be something completely unrelated - I looked into the query HaleBot uses to update this page (which B-bot uses as a source).
It's not listing any files that are in use in any mainspace, rather than ones that aren't used in the main namespace in particular; and, more problematically, it's not listing files that have any file redirects, whether or not any of those redirects are in use.
In practice, the first isn't much of an issue, since there's at least one bot that removes such uses. The second, though, is; it's causing unused unfree files not to be tagged or deleted, sometimes for a long time. I've looked into two in particular as a sanity check - File:15 (Phatfish album - cover art).jpg (with redirect File:15 cover.jpg) was likely last removed from an article in June 2023, and File:Whitney Houston – One of Those Days.jpg (with redirects File:Houston onethosedays.jpg and File:Whitney Houston - One of Those Days.jpg) was likely last removed in October 2022. I'm seeing nearly 500 such images, comparing quarry:query/80400 to Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused non-free files.
.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1){kind=link}
Anyway, my question to you is, are these omissions intentional? It's ok if so, it just means I've got to take this up with User:B instead, and he's mostly inactive. —Cryptic 22:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- No, I don't think it's intentional. If you have a better query for HaleBot to use that fixes these issues that would be great, we can get the report updated (otherwise I can try to poke at it...later). Legoktm (talk) 04:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- quarry:query/80422 works, but it's significantly slower - I just timed it at 68 seconds on uncached data, compared to 11.5 for the current version.I suspect the subquery at the end, which checks for usage of a redirect and is most of what slows it down so much, isn't necessary - every use of a file redirect currently has a row in imagelinks both for the redirect and for the file it points to - but I don't know how reliable that is. —Cryptic 08:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! The slowness is fine, that's still relatively fast for the other queries HaleBot runs :) Applied, it should take effect for the next report run. Legoktm (talk) 05:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- quarry:query/80422 works, but it's significantly slower - I just timed it at 68 seconds on uncached data, compared to 11.5 for the current version.I suspect the subquery at the end, which checks for usage of a redirect and is most of what slows it down so much, isn't necessary - every use of a file redirect currently has a row in imagelinks both for the redirect and for the file it points to - but I don't know how reliable that is. —Cryptic 08:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Possible fix for Legobot "rfc top" issue
Hey,
I just wanted to give this a bump as I think it fell off your talk page during a period when you were inactive. I think I've figured out a fix for Legobot incorrectly matching the {{rfctop}} tag, the details are here in the archive. There's one broken regex that I've suggested a fix for, but I don't have git installed on any of my devices at the moment so couldn't make a pull request for it.
Happy to discuss though, if you get a moment to check it out. :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 04:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry about not replying earlier. I appreciate you providing a solution but I don't really have the bandwith to fully test it nor be around to fix it if something breaks. So if you have the ability to test it and are confident in it, I'm happy to apply it, but otherwise I'd prefer to stick with the known broken behavior instead of unknowns. Legoktm (talk) 05:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confident if you replace the regex on line 168 with the suggested one in my reply, it will prevent that regex matching on the {{rfctop}} and {{rfcbottom}} tags. That same regex also appears on line 185, where replacing it would have the same effect.
- There are 6 other regexes in rfcbot.php that use the negative lookahead
?(?!\s+(top|bottom)), these are on lines 147, 149, 190, 205, 206, and 240. I know Enterprisy's 2019 pull requests to prevent Legobot matching on {{rfc top}} and {{rfc bottom}} tags modified all 8 regexes that currently contain this negative lookahead (the line numbers changed between the 2019 pull requests and today, but the regexes themselves haven't). I have manually tested with a regex debugger and I am confident that making my suggested replacement for all 8 of those regexes will have the same effect as the 2019 pull request, plus it will also prevent those regexes from matching on the {{rfctop}} and {{rfcbottom}} tags. I am also confident that this will not stop Legobot from correctly matching on a {{rfc}} tag, with or without an|rfcid=parameter. - The only thing I'm not sure of is whether you need to replace all 8 instances of of the negative lookahead, or if you only need to change one or both of the instances on lines 168 and 185. Because Enterprisy's original pull requests modified all 8 to prevent matching on {{rfc top}} and {{rfc bottom}} I suspect you might need to replace all 8, as that pull request partially fixed this issue for those two tags specifically. But I can't quite follow the logic flow of the the rfcbot module to be sure which of the 8 regexes are currently erroneously matching on {{rfctop}}, or if replacing all 8 is necessary.
- Sorry if that's a little unclear. I'd love to be able to spin up a webdev environment with both MediaWiki and a Legobot instance to test the modified code in the context of a live page edit, but I'm not able to at the moment, and I can't quite figure out from the documentation what the environment requirements are beyond MediaWiki, Pywikibot, and a current version of PHP. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
HaleBot
Hello, Legoktm,
I just thought I'd let you know that Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories hasn't been updated since February 18th. I do have that alternative source for empty categories but in case this is a problem with HaleBot, I thought I'd alert you. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh, I missed that, thanks. Seems something got stuck on Toolforge, filed T358175. Legoktm (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-09
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The mobile visual editor is now the default editor for users who never edited before, at a small group of wikis. Research shows that users using this editor are slightly more successful publishing the edits they started, and slightly less successful publishing non-reverted edits. Users who defined the wikitext editor as their default on desktop will get the wikitext editor on mobile for their first edit on mobile as well. [22]
- The mw.config value
wgGlobalGroupsnow only contains groups that are active in the wiki. Scripts no longer have to check whether the group is active on the wiki via an API request. A code example of the above is:if (/globalgroupname/.test(mw.config.get("wgGlobalGroups"))). [23]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 29 February (calendar). [24][25]
Future changes
- The right to change edit tags (
changetags) will be removed from users in Wikimedia sites, keeping it by default for admins and bots only. Your community can ask to retain the old configuration on your wiki before this change happens. Please indicate in this ticket to keep it for your community before the end of March 2024.
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MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Template editor/sandbox
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