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October 2011

Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on Occupy Wall Street. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.

Please be particularly aware, the three-revert rule states that:

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Discussion occurring for redirects to the Occupy Wall Street article

• There's a discussion occurring regarding the redirecting of several other "Occupy" articles to the article, Occupy Wall Street occurring here: at the administrator's noticeboard. Since you've significantly contributed to the Occupy Wall Street article, this matter may be of interest to you. Please feel free to comment regarding this matter there. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Problems with upload of File:Vince-carter-chris-bosh-hug.jpg

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You Tube as a source

It's probably not a good idea to use YouTube videos as sources, especially when many of them are probably copyright violations that will eventually be taken down. Try to use text sources as often as possible. Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 19:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Did you get the message? Try to use print/textual sources. There are recaps available of every game Vince Carter has played. You just need to take the time to look for them. The YouTube videos are problematic for several reasons. Zagalejo^^^ 01:25, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

A video can, in theory, be used as a reference. However, many of those YouTube videos are copyright violations, so for legal and moral reasons, we shouldn't be linking to them. In addition, YouTube videos can be removed unexpectedly, so it's better to use something that will be permanently available. (Newspaper and magazine articles are the best, because even if the links go stale, one can still track down the articles in some form by going to a library.) Zagalejo^^^ 01:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I did notice that some of the video's came from Vince Carter's official channel, but I don't think even he would own the rights to those TV broadcasts. Zagalejo^^^ 03:34, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on copyrights, so you might have more luck asking about the YouTube links here. Jalen Rose and Vince Carter might have permission to upload that stuff, but I don't know for sure. (I do know that there certainly are lots of copyright violations still up on YouTube, despite whatever tools Google and YouTube have created. Users like yelistener and 23witty are definitely violating copyrights - some of 23witty's other videos have been blanked.)

As for issues of permanency: nothing online is permanent, but if you're using an online version of a newspaper article, you know that you'll still be able to dig that thing up from a library or other archive even when the link has gone dead. Zagalejo^^^ 05:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Don't take anything personally; I'm just trying to correct errors as I see them. Zagalejo^^^ 05:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

If you knew the original broadcast information (date, channel, etc), you could use the material in the YouTube videos as your sources without linking directly to YouTube. (See here for information on citing TV broadcasts.) However, that information probably isn't immediately available (which itself is another problem with using YouTube as a reference.)

You could also try to find alternative sources to support that information. If they were commonly held opinions, it shouldn't be too hard. Personally, I would't have added the "who/what/when" tags just yet - there are other fish to fry first - although that user is following the Manual of Style (see WP:PEACOCK). Zagalejo^^^ 05:59, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Looking around JalenTV, I did notice that at least one video there has been blocked "on copyright grounds": [1] So, even that channel is a little fishy. If the videos were posted by ESPN itself, I think we'd be OK, but otherwise, we should be careful. Zagalejo^^^ 06:56, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

As a general point, try not to get discouraged about things. Wikipedia has a HUGE learning curve, and can seem overwhelming at times (even for veteran editors). Just take things one step at a time. If you have questions, I'm happy to help you out. Zagalejo^^^ 07:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

NBA.com is a special case. A lot of material is no longer available from them because of the NBA lockout. It's a player's association issue - the NBA isn't supposed to be using images of its players while the lockout is taking place. (Hopefully, that web content will be restored eventually.) Zagalejo^^^ 07:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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