User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 38

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Battle of Yauco 3...and the saga continues

If you plan to do research in Guanica on this topic, let me know when you will go there and I will do what I can to meet you there and help you. I have an interest in this topic as well as you might see! Hope everything is well. Mercy11 (talk) 23:23, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks like I will be in the Yauco Guanica area Feb 10-20. How does that work for you? Mercy11 (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Any plans for a winter break down in the Island? Mine are official for Feb 11-19. It should also be time for the famous Yauco Coffee Festival held every February. So I can "kill 2 birds with 1 rock." Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey,,,, looks like Yauco for next month May - I will be attending a HS graduation. Any chance we can "explore" together???? Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 01:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Vidal and Gag Law

The Vidal (barber from Santurce) and Gag Law articles are awesome. I did some minor Vidal editing to make it sound realistic yet a bit less emotional lest someone jumps up with accusations of POV or puffery, etc. I think Casimiro Berenguer was the shoemaker in front of whose shop the police fired upon the Ponce Massacre victims (but I am not certain he studied shoemaking in Santurce!!!). Keep up the good work! Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 01:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Concerning that e-mail I sent you a few weeks back

Have the assigned editors reached a decision on a course of action, or should I let it go at this point and leave things as they currently are? TomStar81 (Talk) 10:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I think we have an obligation to honor the userspace requests if nothing else, matters relating to the talk page and to the other user pages should be dictated by the terms he set forth. As for the rest, if we have been unable to receive response those specifically named then I think the best course of action would be to leave the remaining requests in the hands of a project or task force best suited to oversee the area of given responsibility. By an large, that would leave the Military history Project as the trust group for the requests, though if I recall correctly (I'm not looking at the specific page at the moment) there were a few items that were better covered by OMT. For the time being, in the absence of input from the users, I think that the milhist coordinators should be brought up to speed on the discovery since they would be in the best position to broadcast the presence of the will and ask for volunteers to help honor the requests. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Userbox

Hope you don't mind my plagiarizing/adapting one of your userboxes! ;) [1] ScottyBerg (talk) 16:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Ruth Fernandez

Hola amigo. The article on Ruth Fernandez in the Spanish Wikipedia (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Fern%C3%A1ndez) was deleted in the last few days, aparentely because of copyright violations. I took the English article, translated it, and posted it there now (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Fern%C3%A1ndez).

I was wandering if you would have a minute to look it over. I am especially concerned about the senator / politician template that did not carry over. Any other fixes are more than welcome. The govt of Ponce (PR?) is having a farewell / homenage for her this saturday. I would like to see that the Spanish article is ready asap for the benefit of our non-english speaking brothers and sisters there should there seek info in wikipedia. Thanks.

Ah, also, I couldn't locate a picture of hers. If you can use some of your photo-digging techniques and come up with one, it would benefit the article in the English Wikipedia also! Mercy11 (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey, BTW, clicking on "Guanica the saga continues..." in your TOC, does not take me to that message's area. I had to use a trick to get there. fyi. Mercy11 (talk) 23:40, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

2012

Hi there and happy new year - albeit a tad late! Have a good one! Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 10:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Piragua

Hey, I believe this is spelled with a "ü", as in Mayagüez. Just don't have the time now to check it out now, but will try later. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 15:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! God bless them. They are very cute. Check out piragüa use HERE.  ;-)

Maybe it should be moved to piragüa (food). It will still comply with English wikipedia, don't you think? Mercy11 (talk) 15:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank Wikipedia for shortcuts! Don't ü think??? ;-) Mercy11 (talk) 15:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

We probably should also have an article about "Mabí", the PR roadside drink. I had 2 16-ounce cups last week (they are selling for $1 but the 2nd seller wanted $1.50 which I negotiated back down to $1) on the same day and my stomach went bananas! Mercy11 (talk) 18:30, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KF5LLG (talk • contribs) 17:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

African immigration to Puerto Rico

I corrected some typos; the article looks great again.

However, you may want to double check the statement: "The cultivation of crops such as tobacco, cotton, cocoa and ginger became the conrnerstone of the economy. Since the cultivation of these crops required little manpower and machinery, the farm owners had little [WORK???] for slaves." I don't think that's what Baralt is saying.

I think what he is saying that: the conerstone of the (day-to-day, microeconomy) economy (Note: not the "main industry" [a.k.a., "macroeconomy"]) were subsistence crops (these would be crops such as - for the sake of argument - yuca, yautias, malangas, corn, tomatoes, pepper, etc; that is, things a farmer and his family needed to substain themselves), and that they (the farmers, not the hacendados and their slaves) would supplement their subsistance crops farming income (presumably they would also try to sell any excess subsistance farming they had left over [think "jibaro" here]) with another plot of land farming dedicated only to contraband farming. He then adds that such contraband farming was directed/propeled/driven by the contraband market demands for tobacco, cotton, cocoa and ginger, etc. (I sense these probably were taken mostly to nearby Caribbean countries from his reference to deep-draft ships). Unlike sugar farming, these contraband farming crops required little money, little land, little or no machinery, and no huge Europe-bound ships. It also required little manpower, such that the families did all the farming themselves, and thus, also unlike the sugar farming, required no slaves either.

Maybe you will want to re-think the wording to clarify this point. I am just now becoming familiar with all the detailed information Baralt offers in this book and don't feel qualified to contribute fully yet. ...I do know when a typo is made though! - heehee.

Except for that, I think the article looks great again.

Mercy11 (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Added an online citation for the same stuff. You may want to keep it or not - I know is redundant. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 15:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit on Marie Terese Rios

Hi Tony,

I came across your wonderful and informative page on Tere Rios while researching our family genealogy. Marie Terese was the daughter of Rafael Rios, from Puerto Rico, and Marie Teresa Dowd, the daughter of Irish-Americans from Brooklyn, New York. Marie Teresa's father, John Dowd, was in the early 20th century the head of the New York Maritime Exchange, later renamed the Port Authority of NY & NJ. John Dowd's sister, Mary, was my husband's grandmother. I have extensively researched the genealogy of this family for many years. If you subscribe to Ancestry, you will find many documents on this family. I would be happy to provide more information.

Mcdgall (talk) 03:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)Pat

Tere Rios

Dear Tony,

I am grateful that you included the update on Marie Terese Dowd in your biography of her daughter, Tere Rios. By the way, you might be interested to know that in researching the Dowd family (my husband's line), I have found that Marie Terese Dowd Rios' nephew, Col.Anthony Dowd, Jr., graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy and served in the USMC. He passed away in 2009.

Learning about Rocky Versace's life has been a blessing, and an inspiring and humbling experience...what an amazing man he was, and I shall never forget him. Thanks again, and I look forward to reading your article on Irish immigration to Puerto Rico.

And from a Blue Star mother...may I also thank you for your service.

Mcdgall (talk) 05:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Best regards, Patricia

Yauco

I will be in Yauco this Saturday feb 11. I will see if I can identify the site of the battle (which is not in Yauco but in Guanica - so I will go there also). In Yauco I will be going to barrio Rio Prieto. Know anyone there??? Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 03:37, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Was in Yauco (mostly) and crossed Guanica in my way to Playa Faro in Cabo Rojo (next to a nudist beach I heard!), but did not see any hill resembling the one in the pic. Though I have to admit, I only dedicated some 45 minutes to it during my journey in the area. I really think this needs more time, like a full day set aside just for that, and then use time as needed, maybe inquiring of the locals in the rural areas of Guanica. We could become a team and accomplish that. Mercy11 (talk) 15:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe your May interview will be in Yauco??! And no, I didn't know Poncennos could also read silent language,,, guess another reason why Ponce es Ponce! (hahaha). I read about Mendez, and man, quite a soldier! Oh, and no, I didn't know about bacalao, either :-( Mercy11 (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi!

Thank you for your webapges, very useful. However, I think you are forgetting a lot of people out from your notable Puerto Ricans list. I know that the media is not interested in scientists or engineers. They are not in the front page of our newspapers even though they are making great developments or even making your life easier everyday with their work. Please take that into account and not just include singers/actors etc.. Thank you again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gleek pr (talk • contribs) 16:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ever hear of ...?

Made some changes, feel free to revert whatever if I missed your point(s)... or maybe you will reword something once you see my point. No hard feeling either way! Mercy11 (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I hadn't and to be honest I learned quite a few things from your article. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Your research in the Puerto Rico Archives

Tony,

The research you've done on Puerto Ricans and Latinos in the U.S. Military is invaluable. As a researcher, I am aware of how little information is out there, and much less formal scholarship. I found your article "Puerto Ricans in World War II" extremely informative (which I accessed on elboricua.com). In one of your footnotes (no. 27) you reference the "Puerto Rico Archives." Is this where you obtained the specific quotes from PFC Felix López-Santos, for example, and others on their experiences of discrimination? I was wondering if you have written up any more of your findings from the Archives, or if you have more detailed information on what specific collections/documents you obtained this information from. I am doing research for my dissertation and I'm looking for the same type of information on Puerto Rican's experiences of racism/discrimination in the military.

Thanks for all that you do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitkatblanco (talk • contribs) 02:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for your kind words. Some of the information was obtained from Prof. Maggie Rivas project on Latino and Latina's in World War II. I can help you with your research. Go to "El Boricua" and ask Ivonne Figueroa for my e-mail address. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Commons

Thank you for uploading free images/media such as File:T-Crystal Palace1.jpg to Wikipedia! As you may know, there is another Wikimedia Foundation project called Wikimedia Commons, a central media repository for all free media. In the future, please upload media there instead (see m:Help:Unified login). That way, all of the other language Wikipedias can use them too, as well as our many sister projects. This will also allow our visitors to search for, view and use our media in one central location. If you wish to move previous uploads to Commons, see Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons (you may view your previous uploads). Please note that non-free content, such as images claimed as fair use, cannot be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons. Help us spread the word about Commons by informing other users, and please continue uploading! Multichill (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. Commons upload form is too much of a hazzle for me. However, I don't mind if anyone else comes alomg and moves my images to commons. Tony the Marine (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Do you mean the old upload form? Did you try the new UploadWizard? It's much easier and even let's you upload multiple files at once. Multichill (talk) 22:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
• To tell you the truth, I wasn't aware that I could upload various images at the same time with "Wizard". Thank you for telling me. I have traveled alot and I always take my camera to take pictures of historical places. I plan on sharing some more. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
  • If you unify your account it's much easier to log onto Commons (and other Wikimedia sites). I would recommend you do that. I noticed you like taking pictures of NRHP, you might be interested in Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in the United States. If you ever wonder what county to go, you might want to take a look at these statistics (rather large page, takes some time to load). Multichill (talk) 12:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
• Thank you for your advice. I really appreciate all of the information that you have provided me. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey Tony, pardon my intrusion here, but I stumbled into this while I was adding the response to Yauco. Hey, do you know how to read the info displayed in that "these statistics" link above? The headers of that table there have cryptic names. Even with my familiarty with Ponce I couldn't make head or tails of it. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 13:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the kind words Tony. I also saw the comment you left on Tom's page. It looks like you can add him to the list of editors that left this month too. 2012 is turning out to be a bad year for Wikipedia. Good luck and Semper Fi. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 02:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

User

Hi Tony, as far as I know, once you are a user in one Wikipedia, somehow you become a user in all/most of the others (including for example, Commons). I may be wrong in this, however I don't remember having created a user id and password in the Spanish Wikipedia yet I have an account there.

In any event, part of the “secret” has something to do with something called “unified logins” and you can find which wikipedias you are “attached” to by going to >>>> My Preferences > Basic Information > Global Account status > Manage your global account

I don’t know how it decides which wikis to attach you to and which ones not (for example, I am not attached to Wikitravel), but what the heck? it works for the Spanish, English, and Commons which is where I spend 99% of my wiki time.

I have been editing the Spanish Wikipedia and will probably do so even more in the future: it allows me to reach the other 50% of Puerto Ricans that don’t read English fluently. (Check out my article in teh Spanish wiki for Millito Navarro – I started by translating it from the English Wiki and now the Spanish version is not only more complete than the English counterpart, but also has 3x the references, is more current and, probably most importantly, it has an accurracy that can be backed up 100%. You know, I can't be contect with incomplete articles if the rest of teh info is readily available.)

I will be more than happy to fulfill you request for the move; and have already sone so. I had read negative comments about the Spanish Wikipedia related to how much more problematic it was to edit, how editors there didn’t know what they where doing, and how there seem to be not a fully developed system for dealing with conflicts etc. Some (a little?) of that may be true; the rest may be perception only. I am learning the ropes there and stay out of trouble by creating/editing article most people don’t care about for now (read: Ponce – haha), but once interest develops I know I have the truth well “under my belt” to deal with the sporadic drive-by editor that wants to make changes based on unacceptable motives (personal, political, etc – you know what I am talking about) rather than verifiable truth.

Also, its very easy to jump (to appear logged in and all) from one wiki to the other: just take an article in the English wiki which you know also exists in Spanish wiki and hit the link on the left that says “Spanish” and bingo!!!! you are there! I use “Cerro de Punta” because it exists in both wikis AND because it is short and, thus, I don’t have to scroll down to see the “Spanish” link.

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 14:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday (2012)

Thank you all for your Birthday Wishes

Wishing Marine 69-71/Archive 38 a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 00:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy birthday Tony. -- Atama頭 05:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Felicidades y mucha salud! Pr4ever (talk) 01:54, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Looking for a specific bio

Hello,

My name is Efrain Nieves I am trying to write an article on my blog about Dr. Edwin Muniz. I noticed it was deleted and can not find any other source about Edwin's biography. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.14.4 (talk) 23:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

• Efrain, the article was deleted from Wikipedia because of the lack of verifiable sources which would have proofed everything claimed. Now, what I did is restore the article in my "workshop" for 48 hours. This is to let you view it and use what ever you wish to use for your blog page. Once the 48 hours are up, I will remove it from my "workshop". You may look at it here: Workshop #1. Good luck. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much Tony. I wish there were many more like you. Finding and writing on our history would be so much easier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.14.4 (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you, I hope that you were able to use the article for your blog. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Ruth Reynolds

Thanks for creating Ruth Mary Reynolds. Her story is interesting indeed. I looked into the article because I was looking for candidates to nominate for DYK. Unfortunately, I don't think this is a candidate -- it has some WP:Close paraphrasing that would need to be cleaned up before we could use it.

One thing that I wondered about in the article: What is your basis for giving her original name as "Willmarth"? (I couldn't find that detail anywhere.) And why did she change her name? (I'm just curious.) --Orlady (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. If Willmarth was her mother's name, then it would not have been part of her American birth name. For what it's worth, I did determine that Willmarth is a name found historically in Lawrence County, South Dakota. And don't worry, I'm not going to nominate this at DYK -- but I might yet do Conrad Lynn. --Orlady (talk) 23:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Advise

As before, I am coming to you for your sound advise. Hope you can open the doors of your good heart once again!

This edit HERE lead me to a what my PC classified as a sex site. I was going to undo the entry but decide I did not have "enough evidence". Was my classification an error or is my PC's filter over-sensitive. Maybe a citation should be required for entries made into this Writers article as there is for the List of Puerto Ricans article. Regards always, Mercy11 (talk) 14:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Reynolds info; I always wondered why there was an English-surnamed person among the Nationalists!!! Thanks Mercy11 (talk) 19:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, in case you didn't know, Juan Sanz was the 1st Puerto Rican to die in France from World War I. (This according to Luis Fortuño Janeiro. "Album Historico de Ponce (1692-1963)". Page 215. 1963. Imprenta Fortuño. Ponce, Puerto Rico.)Mercy11 (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

You know me, if it's got to do with Ponce, I am after the details. However, I will tell you that I had never seen the name Juan Sanz before. There are some things I want to share though: (1) From his last name, I can tell you he did not come from one of the better known families in Ponce (becuase if that was the case we would have lots more info about him), (2) Though I know you are not discrediting Luis Fortuno Janeiro as a source, I just want you to know that his book is well-known and a respected source, as was he as a person for I have never seen his integrity questioned (I probably will write his biography someday), (3)I will keep my eyes open to any mention of the Juan Sanz name to see if I come across any references to his name in other sources. (4)I will be going to Ponce in the future and will be fine-tuned to his name; for example, if I visit the cementery or the Panteon Nacional RBC, I will be sniffing out his name; one fact that Fortuño Janeiro makes quite clear is that Sanz was born in Ponce, so it is likely that his remains were sent back to his hometown by the military. (Note: I was never in the military so I don't know (1)what the protocol is/was for disposing of remains; also, (2)did he die whole or was he shred to pieces by a granade, etc, in which latter case, maybe there were no remains to send back to his hometown, (3) Maybe there were just to many American killed in WWI in Europe that teh Amercians decided to just bury them in Europe (I believe the Americans did bury in Europe -some?- their soldiers who died in WWII, but I don't know if it was because there were too many bodies to carry back home, forgive my ignorance in this subject.))

There are, unfortunately, inherent problems in my search: (1) it is possible that this Juan Sanz was a young 18 or 20 y/o man with little or no education (remember this was 1914) and as a young man had not established his name in society in some form (such as being a shopkeeper, a land owner, a businessman, even a taxpayer, that may have left --as most of us do once we become full-fledge adults--some record of himslef in society via marriage records, the 1910 US. census, or in the judicial system [such as a case John Doe vs. Juan Sanz, etc]), (2)if the Americans -- who are well-known for being good documentarians -- don't have any info on him (or more generally, if they don't have a listing of Puerto Ricans who died in WWI and their Date of Death and location/country of death), I am not sure where we could dig out that information from. Such list would be extremely important at least because with it it could help eliminate Juan Sanz's name as the first Puerto Rican to die in France during WWI. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 23:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Fortuño Janeiro wrote very little about Juan Sanz. It's sort of a sidebar. It's titled "Para la Historia: Nacen en Ponce", then he lists 17 of the first this and the first that.., that is, he lists 17 ponceños who where the first in something (like Jaime L. Drew who was the first Puerto Rican to graduate from Oxford University.) For example, Juan Morel Campos, Antonio Paoli, Federico Degetau, and Paquito Montaner are listed there. The exact words Fortuño uses are (and I duplicate them verbatim), "El primer puertorriqueño caido en Francia en la 1ra. Guerra Mundial: Juan Sanz.".

Fortuno's book is 493 pages long plus the index. It has TONS of pictures: there is hardly a page that does not have a picture. It's like Fortuño's goal was a picture-driven book. Most pages have several (2-12) pictures; it's really an "Album Historico" (as in a photo album). In the first 100 or so pages Fortuno is reasonably good at giving some sort of source. This is particularly true of the first 11 pages which were written by a "Dr. J. L. Montalvo Guenard, Historiador Puertorriqueno" and contain 75 sources from Cayetano Coll y Toste and Fray Íñigo Abbad y Lasierra to Eduardo Neumann Gandía and Fray Pedro de la Concepcion y Urtiaga. After that the sources given are sketchy (Fortuno may have thought, "who needs sources? What I am publishing are pictures!").

Maybe I can find something about Juan Sanz at the Archivo Historico de Ponce when I get around that area again. Certainly El Dia, which had some 5 years being published (and was being published in Ponce at the time) will have a note to the effect that a ponceño was killed in action in France, don't you think? Mercy11 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll see what I find. But, in the meantime, have you considered that maybe his last name was not Sanz, but Sanchez? See Alejandro Sanz. Mercy11 (talk) 17:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Update: Sanz is an actual last name in Ponce. For example, Enrique A. Sanz (together with Pedro Juan Serralles (youngest son of Juan Serrallés Colón) and Adrian Hilera) was one of the founders of the Ponce Yatch and Fishing Club.

Sabana Grande may be correct. (I am not saying "they are",,, they may or may not be right -- most anyone wants to claims "firsts", so it's a matter of finding the right reliable sources). I say they may be correct because, remember, what Fortuno Janeiro is saying about Juan Sanz is that he was the first one to die in WWI IN THE COUNTRY OF FRANCE. Hope this helps. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

My opinion is that we shouldn't say "however it must be noted that Fortuño Janeiro's book is self-published and that the author does not provide a source to proof his claim." Self-publishing (SP) is intrinsically tied to conflict of interest (COI), and the reason that, imo, we shouldn't add that statement is that there is no COI here.

On the self-publish (SP) thing:
Fundamentally, COI is the basis for not including (at all) self-published sources in Wikipedia. If we are going to include the part in the quote above, then we might as well take out the Juan Sanz information altogether -- since we shouldn't knowingly include something that's self published (if it qualified as SP, which it doesn't as I will indicate further below, so read on...).

That said, I disagree the statement qualifies as self-published becuase there is no COI, and there is no COI here for various reasons:

• (1) The book was PUBLISHED by a press that was owned by the 3 or 4 generations of the Fortuno family, not solely by the person that authored the book.
• (2) The book is not ABOUT the author or one of his relatives dying in WWI, but about 500 pages of all sort of historical data about a city (religion, politics, health/hospitals, education, etc.) that happens to include that bit of Juan Sanz information
• (3) The PERSON of Juan Sanz in the book authored by Fortuno bears no connection to the Fortuno business, press, its owners.
• (4) There is no PROFIT for Fortuno in stating that Juan Sanz was the first Puerto Rican casulty of WWI in France.

Also, on a point I had made in one of my previous postings above:

• There is no conflicting information between Ponce and Sabana Grande: it would be OK to state that Ángel Gregorio Martínez was the first one to die >>>in the WWI conflict<<<, and that Juan Sanz was the first one to die >>>IN FRANCE<<< during the WWI conflict. Remember, Fortuño doesn't claim that Sanz was the first one to die, but that he was the first one to die >>>IN FRANCE<<<. In fact, given the qualification that Fortuño added ("in France"), leads me to believe that Fortuno probably already knew that some other Puerto Rican had died in the conflict already before Sanz.

Now, is a photo like that an acceptable source (let alone, a RS) to support the claim that Angle Gregorio Martinez was the first PR victim of the conflict? I say NO.

• If we are going to state that Ángel Gregorio Martínez was the first one to die (in Italy, Germany, France, Japan, in Europe at large, worldwide, whereever) I don't think that a photo of a street by that name (just because the text accompanying the photo says the name of Angel Gregorio Martinez yet there is no street sign showing that name!) can be considered a Reliable source at all. I mean, suppose there was a flickr photo of some street (any street anywhere) then the TEXT of teh flickr photo says Angel Gregorio Martinez, are we to conclude that Angel Gregorio Martinez was the first one to die in anything, let alone WWI. No, I think we need something like a link to a Municipal Ordenance by Sabana Grande that ties the name of Angel Gregorio Martinez to a street that the city is naming after him. That's a valid citation and reliable source.

On the no source provided for his claim thing:

• The above brings up a related point: you state that Fortuno Janeiro doesn't state what the source of his Juan Sanz information is, and you are totally correct in that. However, you failed to state that there is no source of information for the Angel Gragorio Martinez claim either, meaning that, again, the flickr photo does mention WWI at all. The only thing the photo proves, judging from the license plate on the police motorcycle, is that there is a "Me Salve" store somewhere in Puerto Rico. (Of course you and I know there are far many more, ME Salve stores there, but other reades wouldn't -- and in any event, what would any of that have to do with Angel or with WWI).

I say for now we need to get reliable source for Angel Gregorio MArtinez. Not that I disbelieve he was teh first casualty, but that to needs to be cited from a reliable source. Ideally we should have a link to a municipal ordinance naming the street (the WHEREAS parts of municipal ordinances generally say why the street is being named after such and such person). If not, at a minimum there should be a photo showing the STREET SIGN of a street with that name. I could get that in my next time in the area. Once such reliable source exists we can say Martinez was the first one to die in WWI and that Sanz was teh 1st one to die in France during WWI.

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 22:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Tony, how about something like this:

“ It may never be known who was the first Puerto Rican to die in that conflict. The municipality of Sabana Grande claims that Ángel Gregorio Martínez, one of its native sons, was the first to perish in that conflict, and the town named one of its main thoroughfares after him. However, in Luis Fortuño Janeiro's "Album Histórico de Ponce (1692-1963)", the author claims that Juan Sanz from Ponce was the first one to perish in France during the WWI conflict. Fortuño does not indicate if "the first one to perish in France" also implies "the first one to perish in the overall conflict", however, and there are no known honors in Ponce to Juan Sanz. ”

Just an idea of what I envisoned....... Cheers, Mercy11 (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Writers

Yeah I noticed you had cleaned up. Looks great!!! As for being on the watchlist, no problem - it already was. Take care, patriot. Mercy11 (talk) 19:10, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Phoenix Indian School

Hi, and thank you for your wonderful images of the Phoenix Indian School! Your contribution is very much appreciated. I would love to have images of the Dining Hall or lower grades building as well on that article. Would you happen to have any you can upload? Raymie (t • c) 18:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I see. I don't think the PIS buildings are open to the public, sadly (one group wants to put a Native American museum in there).

If you want some suggestions for photos to take in the Phoenix area, I gladly have some. Some NRHP sites (particularly schools, my specialties) will need photos. Raymie (t • c) 19:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Victor Messinger House listed individually on NRHP?

Hi Tony ... First off, thank you for your service to our country.

I'm dropping you a note because you added the Victor Messinger House to National Register of Historic Places listings in Maricopa County, Arizona. I'm pretty confident that it's not individually listed on the Register since it doesn't come up in a search of the National Park Service NRIS database. I think the confusion here may be that it's apparently a contributing property to the Glendale Townsite-Catlin Court Historic District (see this Glendale Star article from last September). Do you have a source that indicates that the house itself is listed on the Register and not just as a contributing property to the historic district? --sanfranman59 (talk) 17:13, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I'm happy to take a look at the plaque, but based on past experience with this type of thing, I know they can sometimes be a bit ambiguous about the difference between a site that's listed on the Register and a site that's an historic district contributing property. I also know that there are errors and omissions in the NRIS database. The best solution may be to go straight to the horse's mouth. I was going to email the Arizona Historic Preservation Office, but I couldn't find email addresses on their website. So I may give them a call to see if they can shed any light (unless you'd prefer to do so). --sanfranman59 (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Yup ... that plaque sure seems to indicate that it's individually listed on the NRHP. I called both the Glendale Historical Society (who placed the plaque) and spoke to someone who couldn't answer the question of if the house is individually listed or just a contributing property to an historic district. But she said she'd try to find someone who could answer the question. I also left a voice message at the Arizona SHPO. I'll let you know when I know more. --sanfranman59 (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I heard back from both the Glendale Historical Society and the AZ SHPO and they both say that the house is not individually listed on the NRHP, but is a contributing property to the Glendale Townsite HD. So I'm going to remove it from the Maricopa County table and count. Thanks for working with me on this. --sanfranman59 (talk) 19:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Puerto Rican Drug War

Hola creo que usted sugirio un "merge" en el articulo Puerto Rican Drug War me plaze informarle que no combiene unir dos articulos diferentes :) 66.50.79.161 (talk) 02:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

• Lo siento pero yo creo que un articulo sobre las drogas illegales en Puerto Rico y otro sobre la guerra de drogas en Puerto Rico, si van en el mismo camino y entre los dos se puede sacar un tremendo articulo. Eso es lo que yo opino.

• I'm sorry, but I believe that an article about the illegal durgs in Puerto Rico an another about the war on drugs in Puerto Rico are on the same venue and a merge between the two articles would create a great article. That is my opinion. Tony the Marine (talk) 07:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

But You can you please leave it how it is is a good article. Actually my son did a project out of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.50.79.161 (talk) 21:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

• In my opinion, one of the articles is better then the other. I believe that "Drugs in Puerto Rico" should stay and that material from "Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico" should be incoporated in the first. Which one did your son work on?. He can do the merge by using the "good" material of the other. Once he does this then we can keep the better one. Let me know and I'll give him advice on how to go about it. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Ariel Lugo

Hi Tony! Good to see you - been a long time...my own fault, I was inactive for most of 2011. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for adding an article on Ariel Lugo - we really need an article him - he's probably the most accomplished living ecologist in the Caribbean. Guettarda (talk) 22:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Double bypass? That doesn't sound like fun. I hope you're doing better these days. Yep, people around here often lack a sense of compassion...glad you made it through that as well. But there are also lots of good people around here (like you), and that's what always brings me back here in the end. Guettarda (talk) 03:42, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Que Viva Ponce!

I was surprised to see how much info you digged out for someone I had never heard of. Thanks Tony, great work !!! Mercy11 (talk) 03:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey Tony, in REF to your edit HERE, did you get a chance to review thisHERE? The list was becoming endless (there are currently over 200 Ponceño bios in Wikipedia) and I adopted the guidelines discussed in the Ponce talk page. Reason something had to be done was that the article on Ponce was running the danger that it would become dominated by a list of Ponceños Ilustres and, at over 200 of them, the list would had become a WP:UNDUE issue of sorts. Please reconsider where the addition you made on Juan Emilio Viguié does rise to the stature of the other 15 or so Ponceños Notables in that section. I personally think it does not. But, hey, we could create a List of Ponceños article, just like we have a List of Puerto Ricans! After all...Ponce is Ponce!!! (heehee) Thanks! Mercy11 (talk) 04:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

De veras que te pasaste ESTA vez! I had an exam in school so I couldn't get to this yesterday (per your replies to my message here) and when I came to do the update today, BANG! I found you had beat me to it! Wow! Thanks!.......... You don't cease to amaze me man!!! (haha) You are like a rock-and-roll legend here. Pa'arriba Ponce! (hahaha). Mercy11 (talk) 13:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Juan Emilio Viguié

I have never heard it called Cine Havana; it's called Teatro Havana. While it (together with a number os other teatros in Ponce, most notably Teatro Broadway) were in fact used almost exclusively for showing peliculas (and thus the "cine" name), they were sometimes used as auditoriums for various conventions, political gatherings, musical events, a venue for plays, etc, when the organizing group could not afford the more expensive Teatro La Perla. Any way, I have never seen it called Cine Havana. I think the Cine Havana HERE should be changed to Teatro Havana, but first wanted to run it pass you.

See, for example, HERE for evidence of the "Teatro" word in the name, but there are many other instances, for example, Funeraria Oliver on Avenida Las Americas and Ponce Ramada Hotel have pictures of Teatro Havana on display, and it is not called "Cine Havana" but "Teatro Havana". (See also HERE.

Finally, one more observation (hang in the baby!!!! jajaja): Since "Cine" is a Spanish word and "Havana" is English for "Habana", (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habana) to be strictly correct (consistent) the name should had read either "Cine Habana" (all in Spanish) or (maybe) "Havana Cine" or "Havana Teather" (all on English format). Well, whatever, my point is that if we go with the "Teatro" in the name, the correct name should be probably the full Spanish name: "Teatro Habana". That way we not only stay consistent with one language only in the name, but we also keep consistency with the other "teatro" name in this article, namely, Teatro La Perla, which is spelled entirely in Spanish.

Once more, let me congratulate you for creating the Viguie article. De veras que te pasaste esta vez! FYI, the municipality of Ponce has recognized Viguié's pionnering work with a plaque at a city park of illustrious citizens. See HERE.

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

• This is what I like about Mercy and Nelsondenis248. They make great observations of obvious errors and mistakes. It is because of Mercy and Nelsondenis248 that we have some great articles in Wikipeida about our people. God bless both of you and keep up the good work not only for our people, but for our nation as well. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I created a category for military personnel from Ponce as it was sorely missing given every other Ponceño was already properly categorized into its own corresponding category. I eventually ended up with Emilio all by itself, and not belonging to any category. So I put him into his very own category as "Filmmakers from Ponce". That should do. Mercy11 (talk) 03:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

What 'ru you know????? Some people just don't know how to appreciate BEAUTY! Mercy11 (talk) 03:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

You can't tell a Borican when you see one?

Ha, well I didn't start my own section it was done for me. So if it doesn't have my early years, I guess that's something you can find at my website (http://ragsagainstthemachine.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1325306549). I have a section in the forums that explains all my early life and corrects some misconceptions that Wikipedia had. I don't know how to go about proving I'm Puerto Rican. I was born in Manhattan, and my mother as well. I can tell you my father was born in old San Juan, and that I have family on my fathers side in Bayamon. My mothers side has two families, Rodriguez and Laracuente in Cabo Rojo. Seriously, given I was approached at a comic convention for the picture you have of me and not (at the time) knowing I even HAD a Wikipedia entry, I don't understand how anyone can be put in an article and need to prove it. How do ANY entries get by and are accepted as truth when I know for a fact that they can and are started by other people, not necessarily proving anything.

On a side note, I hope you're retired and well. My cousin Stephen Vega is a sergeant in the Marine Corps. and was last stationed somewhere in Indonesia. Semper Fi and go 65th infantry, the Boriqueneers.

Ralph Anthony Rodriguez Morales (aka Rags)son of Rafael Morales and Flerida Rodrigues-DaSilva (formerly Morales) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rags Morales (talk • contribs) 00:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Well what can I say about the edits. It's all my personal information that you guys took out. It's not like I'm gonna give you my social security number and I'm not in the mood to get out my birth certificate to prove anything. Look here is an interview I recently did that proves some of the stuff I was claiming http://fanboynation.com/?p=102. I don't know what else to do.

Rags. Why doesn't Wikipedia believe that I am who I say I am?! 11:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rags Morales (talk • contribs)

• • Good question. Since we don't make the rules, just follow them, I suggest that you ask the people that do. Go over Here and post all of your questions in regard to Wikipedia policy and your article. Tony the Marine (talk) 14:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Megh R. Goyal

This guy is listed in the List of Puerto Ricans list yet he appears to be 100% Indian and 0% Puerto Rican (as measured both/either by birth or by blood). Should he be on this list? He seems to be an Indian who entered the US as a PhD student, got his PhD in Ohio State University, landed a job at the University of Puerto Rico and, as a consequence, was given either a work permit or a permanent resident green card. None of this would, imo, make him puertorriquenno. What do you think? Mercy11 (talk) 12:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Sub-cat

Ponce beauty pagents winners........... "you win some, you lose some!"....They are just jealous!,,,,,,,,,, hahahah. Mercy11 (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, fear and inferiority complexes make people act in strange ways. Add jealousy to that mix and you don't need to be a differential equations mathematician to figure out what some folks survive only by harrassing others. Watch out because when they push your buttons, if you react, then that's exactly what they expected and they feed on that for their next misearable move. It's so sad that wp:good faith just doesn't work with those folks,,,,I am not a psychiatrist but I think is a mental or emotional disease. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 14:48, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Citizenship

Tony, How are you?

Please check out page 31 HERE. In particular "the House of Delegates rejected US citizenship reflecting the wishes of the vast majority of Puerto Ricans" and "Puerto Rican citizenship". Clearly not only was there a "Puerto Rican citizenship" at the time (1914), but even more, in 1917 US citizenship was not "granted" to Puerto Ricans, as some claim, but in fact it was "imposed" on them. Note that this is from a letter drafted by Puerto Rico's own House of Delegates (today's Camara de Representatntes), which consisted of Puerto Ricans (not by the Upper Chamber which, at the time, was made up of Americans only). And note that this is recorded in perpetuity in the Congress' very own Congressional Record. Maybe this reference can be used in some of Puerto Rico's articles to clarify an issue that occassionally raises questions by the uninformed. What do you think? Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 01:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Adele

Dear fellow wikipedia editor or administrator,

Greeting to you my fellow contributors and friends. I trust that you are all well and in good health and spirits.

I am a continued and consistent user of our open contributor forum. I have edited several articles and have worked with each of you in at least one or two instances. My most contentious edits and requests have been Jose Baez's birthplace and The Capeman BLP.

As you can see, I have continued to use my anonymous IP address in place of a regular user id or moniker. This is a personal choice and one that I most likely will continue.

My reason for contacting you is I request your assistance and input in relation to a BLP that I believe has the potential to continue to draw a very large number of readers and potential editors and others. The article in question is Adele, the singer. The article has many inconsistencies and errors contained within it. The article has been locked down and several edits reverted that have 1) validicity and potentially correct/new iinformation 2) Absolutely no talk page entries or discussion taking place whatsoever and when someone does use the talk page it is ignored or easily dismissed without a single opinion or answer to the person proposing the discussion.

I must state that I have personally not made one change to this article at all! I feel it is important to state I have no knowledge of this BLP subject whatsoever. In fact, I know nothing about her other than what is contained in the article itself. and the cited references contained within. My only contributions to anything regarding the subject is to the talk page for the article and a registered editor's user talk page.

My first entry was dated May 11, 2012 when I contributed to the talk page detailing specifically the inconsistencies within it and at the least opening a discussion and at the most requesting article editing. I also included one or two small constructive suggestions to hopefully clear some confusion I experienced in the article. No additional discussion by anyone was offered at all. (It was like I was the only one who knew that a talk page even existed). My next entries were 7 days later. and true to my mo, I become contentious and somewhat aggressive in an attempt to provoke any response whatsoever.

I am a constructive user and sometimes editor in subjects that I know are correct and I possess the knowledge and information to challenge constructively. I must apologize for my contentious tendencies and state once again I am nearly always a reasonable and fair person.

My problems with this article is outlined in the talk pages. The claim that the vandalism is persistent, I must question this as I see no persistance, nor a reason for an editor to assign a 4 month lockdown. Also, currently the last edit has reverted causing the removal of an inclusion that this artist is a pop artist when the article itself states this fact in a number of paragraphs and references within it.

I only request that you please offer a little time and review the article, talk page and recent edits and reverts. I would not ask this of you, if I did not know that this article was in need of such drastic assistance. In addition, due to the huge fame of this artist, I believe this article should really be helped by those I know are fair, just, caring and competent to the wiki community.

I have also requested the assistance in the wiki chat portal this morning outlining my concerns there as well. Unfortunately, I have much less confidence in that forum than I can say I do have in you all. The only response that I really received was nearly a dozen users immediately exited and left after stating the facts as I have here.

Any and all assistance and aid you may render, I am sure the wiki community will be the better for.

Best regards always, Tony. Please assist our community with this BLP as your expansive knowledge and highly valued prestigious administatorship is highly respected within our community, Sir.

Best Wishes Always, Mark R (anonymous ip) 65.8.151.206 (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

• I believe that a "lockdown" on the article was uncalled for, however since I am currently not using my admin powers nor am I personally getting involved with any activities which require my presence as an administrator, I will make the following recommendation. Go to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and request that the article be unlocked. Post your reasons, which are very sound and maintain your "cool" while doing so. I am sure that someone there will agree with you and undo the damage done, Tony the Marine (talk) 18:29, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Raimundo Díaz Pacheco

Hey Tony, I really get a kick from your introductions. They make me laugh out loud. I can also feel that you truly enjoy putting these articles together. Hey, I'd rather read one of your articles than the front page of the New York Times!!! Thanks and keep up the good work! Mercy11 (talk) 01:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Tony

Gracias, Tony. Thanks for taking care of my brother's page -- awesome. And feel free to edit whatever I wrote. Thanks.

ceo Eortiz123 (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Happy !!! Memorial Day !!! weekend !!!

Saludos, Mercy11 (talk) 18:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Jose Semidey Rodriguez

Hi Tony,

I believe you wrote an article on Wikipedia about my great grandfather. I noticed the misspelling of our last name (Semidey not Semidei) and made all the changes I could. I can't however change the actual title name or the url. I am new to Wikipedia and was wondering if you could help.

Thanks! Belen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpsemidey (talk • contribs) 15:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• Hi Belen, I am more then willing to help. The situation is this. The sources have your grandfathers surname spelled as "Semidei" and not "Semidey". This could be due to the fact that soem the spelling of some family surnames change as time passes by. Now, do you have any proof (a document) that your grandfather's surname ended with a "y" and not an "i"? If you do, you can provide me with a copy. I will also consult with a friend of mine, the author of "Historia Militar de Puerto Rico", he is from Yauco (as my family) and an expert in the matter. Don't worry we will get things right. Tony the Marine (talk) 15:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, all the books we have feature the correct spelling. My grandfather (his son) has all of his documentation as "Semidey", as well as the rest of the family. What kind of documentation would suffice as proof? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpsemidey (talk • contribs) 15:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• Tell you what Belen, I will make the requested chamges and let it rest as so unless something comes up to prove otherwise. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpsemidey (talk • contribs) 18:59, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• Just for the record Belen, Col. Negroni a historian who has made an extensive study of the Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico, sent me an e-mail in which he states the following;

  " In Corsica, the name is spelled Semidei but the Spanish wanted to change the spelling to Semidey. Many of the Corsican families did not follow the wishes of the Spanish authorities.” Since Jose Semidei’s family was Corsican in origin, the correct spelling is Semidei. The so called “distant family member” is ignorant about the Semidei family. Tell him I said so!"

  Tony the Marine (talk) 00:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I would not consider myself "distant". Being that he is my grandfather's father and all. I also realize that while that MAY be true, I would think my grandfather would know how to spell his name! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpsemidey (talk • contribs) 18:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, if they chose to take it and change it, then that is no longer his name. I will do my best to provide documentation for your colleague as I don't see how anyone would be interested in making all of this up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpsemidey (talk • contribs) 18:46, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• I also agree with you that you being a great-granddaughter are not a "distant" cousin. As you can see I am here to help you in your quest. What I do believe in the logic of Negroni's statement is that "Semidei" was the family name in Corsica and that the family may have changed the spelling to "Semidey" in Puerto Rico, which would justify that all of the descendants have the surname of "Semidey". The "Semidey" will stay for now, however if you can e-mail me a copy of a document, a primary source, for example a birth certificate or an official government document, which specificly states that your "great-grandfathers surname ended with a "y" instead of an "i", then we can use that as a reliable source and the change could stand as permanent. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Notice The "Semedei" family was one of hundreds of Corsican families who immigrated to Puerto Rico. The following is an official list of the surnames of the first 403 Corsican families who immigrated to the Adjuntas, Yauco, Guayanilla, and Guanica areas of Puerto Rico in the 19th Century. This list was compiled by genealogist and historian Colonel (USAF Ret. ) Hector A. Negroni who has done exhaustive research on the Corsican migration and origins of his Negroni family name. See: Corsican immigrants to Puerto Rico.

The surname of the family ends with an "i" and not a "y". Belen who claims to be the great-Granddaughter of the subject of this article, claims otherwise, that the surname ended with a "y". In my opinion this may be due to the fact that somewhere along the line someone in her family may have changed the spelling of their family surname. I have asked her to provide some kind of proof that her "great grandfathers" surname was "Semidey" and not "Semidei". Out of good faith, I have changed the spelling of subjects surname to "Semidey", however if Belen can not provide the proof requested within two weeks, which I believe to be a reasonable time, the article and all links to it will be returned to how it originally appeared "Semidei". Tony the Marine (talk) 20:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

No proof what-so-ever has been provided that the Brigadier General's surname was Semidey. No further communication by "Belen" as to the subject. Therefore, I will proceed to return the spelling of the surname to "Semidei" as it was originally posted and as it appears in all the reliable verifiable sources. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stories Project

Hi Tony!

My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.

I ran across your userpage and wow - you have a lot here, more than most Wikipedians are willing to share!

I'd very much like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project.

Thank you for your time,

Victor Grigas

user:Victorgrigas

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Victor Grigas (talk) 03:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Cadets of the Republic (Puerto Rico)

Awesome article brother! Keep them coming !!!! Mercy11 (talk) 15:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, there's hope. Luis Ferre died not seeing his dream come true... And though he was, imo, a very decent human being, at least PR is not a state!,,,,so, as they say, "you lose some, but you win some!" Mercy11 (talk) 23:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Tony,,, or,,, Yauco 5

Pardon my intrusion,,, but I learn almost as much from your talk page as from the artices you write... hahaha!!!

I read above that Héctor Andrés Negroni is from Yauco, is a military man (or was), and is a historian... wow! Maybe he IS the person to help us identify the coordinates of the Hill where the Battle of Yauco took place. Can you tap him on this issue? The hill is in modern day Guanica, remember. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC).

And now introducing... (hahaha)

Check out Iris Zavala. This honorable woman is a modern-day Puerto Rican independentista. I was looking for an appropritae Wikipedia category, but seems there is none. Maybe one should be created to start throwing some bios in there. I think something that would list CONTEMPORARY independence activists/supports/militants/etc, such as Iris Zavala, Elizam Escobar, Helen Rodriguez-Trias, etc, would be more appropriate (versus the likes of María de las Mercedes Barbudo, Manuel Rojas, Gilberto Concepción de Gracia, which could go into another category called something like "Late PR independentistas" or something like that). Comments? Mercy11 (talk) 18:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Great idea - Cat created! I know there are many others that belong in there,,, just can't remember just know who they all are. As for the See also, I sometimes just copy from the first template that comes to mind, and that is what happens,,,, incomplete or non-existent See also section! And for the life of me, now I cant remember what template I used so as to go there and fix the source template!!! Feel free to correct or just mention it as you did. Thx, Mercy11 (talk) 00:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Aha! María Teresa Babín Cortés, that was the source template!!!! Off to fixing I go! Mercy11 (talk) 00:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I left out the "clr" because it didn't seem to do anything,,, but maybe it does do something!!!  :-( Mercy11 (talk) 03:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Ha! the deletionists are at it AGAIN!!! What do you think of renaming to "Category:Puerto Rican independence advocates" and forego the 21st century thing? That way we don't have to keep moving folks out of that cat as they pass away anyway? A fair compromise? Mercy11 (talk) 12:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Manuel Rojas

This is me answering your query at WP:PUR almost 4 months later so sorry for the tardiness. I just wanted to comment that I feel the term "revolucionario" violates NPOV. The english Wikipedia article for Revolutionary says: "the term revolutionary refers to something that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor.". Granted, this isn't the only definition for the word. Anyone who advocates revolution technically is a revolutionary, just as anyone who bangs on drums can be considered a "musician". Regardless, I feel we can come up with a better qualifier for the article, considering there are only two articles in the whole Spanish Wikipedia that use "revolucionario" (es:Pedro Rodriguez (revolucionario) is the other one). Feedback ^☎ 21:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Better late then never, I always say. I see your point in the "Revolutionary" issue. Maybe in his case it would be best to rename "Manuel Rojas (Puerto Rico)". Tony the Marine (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree "Puerto Rico" is a better qualifier. I did a search on the site and didn't see any biographic articles with that qualifier (although almost every Puerto Rican city has the qualifier). Instead, I keep finding rather wordy qualifiers like es:Robert Muñoz (beisbolista puertorriqueño). Maybe I should try and gain a consensus over there to change all those wordy qualifiers to adapt the cities' simple "(Puerto Rico)". What do you think? Feedback ^☎ 23:49, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Museums

Hey Tony, wandering what you think of this:

This place HERE is driving me nuts because they have a FULLY PROTECTED template (Museum) and after my having made a request 8 months AGO, which went unanswered for 6 months (there was some meaningless chit chat for 2 months), these guys don't resolve this simple issue (a request to add an "owner/entity" field to the infobox). One admin in that same Talk Page forum HERE fulfilled another unrelated request from someone else after 2 years BECAUSE "there had been no opposition for 2 years"!!! What sort of meritful rationale is that???? - seems to me utter nonsense!!! Why the hell do they fully protect a template if they are not going to answer a simple request for months - even years - and even after they are PERSONALLY alerted that there is an active request pending, just beats me!!!

I know you are an admin (and thus probably able to make changes to a fully protected template), and want to make it clear that I AM NOT asking for you to intervene at all. I just want your thoughts on this and I want to understand if there is something that can be done when someone (that would be ME) falls victim to this seemingly unintended consequence.

Thx! Mercy11 (talk) 13:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

• It seems as if a solution has been reached. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ha! What ru you know? They must have known I notified the High Authority (that would be you!) and they acted right away after months! Cheers, Mercy11 (talk) 21:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Associated Free or Free Associated?

Hello Tony, here I am again seeking your good judgement...

The Puerto Rico article states the literal translation of "Estado Libre Asociado" is " Associated Free State". In fact, it may have been me who introduced that in the lead section a few years back - not sure. But regardless, I have always supported that translation based on what little I know of Spanish-English grammatical rules, blah blah blah.

In any event, I have - for the first time -- come accross a translation for ELA into English that is sourced to the US Government - well, at least to a US Govt Congressional proceeding. It translates it as "Free Associated State" (See HERE).

Note that the issue here is between "Associated Free" (the current form in the article) and "Free Associated" (the translation from teh proceeding.

My question to you is, It is worthwhile changing it from Associated Free State to Free Associated State and inserting a citation?

Before responding, note that the translation is actually from former Resident Commisioner (and now current governor) Luis Fortuño and that it may be his own PREFERRED translation (rather than one that follows grammatical rules) in an effort to stress (the belief among pro-statehood supporters like Fortuño) that Puerto Rico is an "Associated (as in "colonial") State", versus stressing the "Free" part which would make it sound like it is a sovereign state which, as I am sure you know, is vehemently denied by pro-statehood supporters like Fortuño.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Mercy11 (talk) 13:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

So, just to confirm, you are saying that the way it currently stands in the Puerto Rico article you consider it incorrect and should probably be changed to "Free Associated State of Puerto Rico" (and include the citation I sent you above)?

Just want make sure before making any changes...

Thx! Mercy11 (talk) 23:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

OK OK. Let me get done with Tito Kayak and consider it done! Mercy11 (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Drug War

In REF to: [2], I say let's go ahead and do it: No one has commented for 3 months - and those 2 anonymous IPs (likely the same one person) have a history of vandalism. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 15:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)