User talk:Michael Snow/Archive (Jun-Jul 2005)
Thank You
editWhat a year! My first year in Wiki, a featured article and now administrator. Thank you for your support. Michael, your vote of confidence was very special for me. I'll be looking forward for your advice and guidance. Tony the Marine
- And thanks for posting the "breaking news". It was certainly helpful to know in advance there would be downtime, and to have an idea of when we could edit again. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wikijunior name vote
editm:Wikijunior project name Voting will end June 6, 2005 at 11:30 am EST. -- user:Zanimum
Thanks
editI do little enough here, being probably one of the most inactive of admins and working in a limited field, a minority-interest one at that. What I do, I try to do as well as I can, and I have to admit that I found being mentioned twice in the wonderful Signpost much more exciting than getting a barnstar. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:23, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
Passwords
editI don't know if the Signpost does any investigative reporting, but there seem to be several people (including me) whose passwords suddenly stopped working (see User talk:Raul654#Urgent! Help!). There were no new contributions from the accounts and we were able to get new passwords e-mailed. This has affected some who may not have entered an e-mail address (see Wikipedia:Help desk#Password trouble). Raul suggests that this may be a lot more widespread than just a few users: User talk:Raul654#Password trouble. Feel free to ignore this if it's not interesting. — Knowledge Seeker দ 19:19, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hot scoop
editHere's something to get people talking -- Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RFC →Raul654 19:29, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
Mediation committee
editThanks for your support in my self-nomination for the mediation committee. Mgm|(talk) 21:53, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
Careful, now...
editDon't want to encourage me; if that's what I get perhaps I'll do it more often. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:37, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Signpost question
editHey, I have a question for you. It looks like I missed a fairly important story (a new procedure for delisting featured articles), so today, someone added it to my article. I'm wondering what should be done about that - I know that I only ever read the signpost on Monday, and then wait until next week, and I'm thinking that that is pretty common. So it doesn't make sense then to be adding new sections to the articles on Wednesday, right? Let me know what you think – I'm thinking it would be best to move it to the newsroom and then just put it in next week's issue. --Spangineer (háblame) 10:46, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
Unprotecting Nagorno-Karabakh and others
editHi Michael,
The pages you've unprotected were protected for long enough, so you rightfully chose to unprotect them. But at the same time, just in case if you dont know, you should bear in mind that these pages (Nagorno-Karabakh, Caucasian Albania, Artsakh, Karabakh, Nakhichevan, Arran (Azerbaijan) and many others) were protected from vandal Rovoam, who's become w/o exagerration the most obsessive and persistent vandal in the history of Wikipedia. I am putting regular disclaimers on all his know anon IPs, so if you haven't read them, please, have a look and be informed.--Tabib 04:56, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
village pump exchange re admins run amok
editHi - Has anyone let know about the conversation at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Admin run amok?? It seems pretty obvious to me the user is looking for something along the lines of You're right, this shouldn't have happened. I'm sorry. We'll try to make sure nothing like this happens again., without any defensiveness and without any snarky remarks, but so far has (mostly) gotten not our fault, we did nothing wrong, and, BTW, you're stupid. Do you think you might be able to contribute an appropriate apology? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:38, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Hi Michael. I'd like to make it clear that I'm absolutely not looking for any apologies. As you said it, I don't believe you have anything to apologize for. In fact, I actually believe that it is I who owe you an apology: I was overly critical of you out of some frustration that really had nothing to do with you. I know that what happened there, if anything, was an honest mistake. Apart from that, I started that discussion in the VP so that the general procedure for blocking/unblocking pages could perhaps be refined, since I felt it appears to be too automatic, meaning that pages that have been blocked are unblocked after some time has elapsed, and that doesn't always mean that the issue, whatever it may be, has been resolved in the page, since, as I've said in the VP, the circumstances may vary considerably. That was it, I thought about starting a topic after I learned that you had unblocked the page because a certain time had passed (BrokenSegue informed me, in the History page I only saw "unprotected", and there was no comments from you in the Talk page at the time). But I should have stuck to the main point I was trying to make, and that's why I never brought it up during our exchange in the article's talk page: I had already admitted to having exaggerated in the VP, and I didn't want to give this any extra breath. I did not mean to offend you in any way, sorry if I might have done that.
As for the point itself, I agree with Rick. I was not looking for any personal apologies, but the people who commented in the topic, most of them Admins, I believe, have shown a surprising unwillingness to approach the issue I raised, instead, they've assumed what appears to be a corporatist attitude and decided that the best defense was to attack me. Regards, Redux 01:40, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)- Hi again. Thank you for your words. As you said, it was a combination of miscommunication and misunderstandings. Whenever something happens in an article that I find strange, I always give the benefit of the doubt to registered users that have been around for at least some time. I believe I skipped that, at least to a certain extent, out of a certain impatience in connection with that article and the troubles that that anon has been generating over there, which doesn't excuse my hastiness. I can understand that people might have misinterpreted or misjudged my intentions in the VP, but it was rather unexpected that several people, and as you said, good people who do serious work here, all spring jumped to a counterattack, without trying to clarify things or discuss the topic. In fact, I could see that there was no real analysis going on there, since they'd say to me "you should have done this and that first", without realizing that I had already done this and that, or that the situation did not call for this and that. I believe that there's more than one lesson to be learned from this. I'll see if I can still salvage that discussion though, please feel free to participate. Regards, Redux 04:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the deletions
editHi, thank you for pointing out the links on Talk:Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen concerning my temp pages, and for deleting them after the move. I hadn't considered moving them to my User page, or even originally proposing them there. Thanks for the info and cleanup. <>Who?¿? 02:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Adminship
editI appreciate the vote of confidence. I've been thinking about a self-nom for a while, mostly so I can contribute to a bit of the grunt work in cleaning up copyvios, the VfD backlog, and fixing cut & paste moves. I would have no objection if you saw fit to nominate me. Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:36, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Theo RFA
editThank you for supporting my nomination. I particularly appreciate it given your reservations about David Helvarg.—Theo (Talk) 05:49, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Signpost
editI'm sorry if I started too late and appeared unreliable. However, I have been working for the last hour on a draft.
Regards, lots of issues | leave me a message 09:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've finished my initial draft and it looks like we've reached two different results and styles. User:Lotsofissues/press620 I'll leave it up to you.
Regards, lots of issues | leave me a message 10:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Adminship JoJan
editTanks for your support. JoJan 14:16, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Re: Possible change for VFD Bot
editI wouldn't mind... All you need is the six lines of dates, separated on each line. If you want to place it on to a different page, let me know when the change is effective, then I'll correct the VFD Bot to edit the page you want me to. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, one other thing. While I don't mind you wanting to merge the two pages, I understand both are frequently visited. I will gladly have the VFD Bot update a VFD section on Goings-on, but as for the merging part, you should confirm and discuss that with others first. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:17, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RfA thanks
editThank you for your support for my adminship. I know it's no big deal, but I do appreciate your taking the time to vote. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:59, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks!
editThanks for the supportive vote on my RfA, along with the decorative alto clef. It's nice to know someone appreciates violists! :). Thanks, Bratschetalk 5 pillars 14:30, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
Suggestion for possible nomination
editHi. Seeing your work on history, here and there, I wonder if you might be interested in looking at Cadaver Synod, and consider its suitability for nomination as a featured article. It is a delightful story, and although the article isn't long, collaboration has polished it up into a well-rounded account. Self-nominations aren't wrong, I know; but they sometimes under-estimate the weaknesses of the work, when a well-chosen proxy might help to better prepare for nomination. If you like the article, do you have a suggestion of which Wikipedian historian might enjoy polishing it up to present it for consideration? Mkmcconn (Talk) 05:07, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dunno if you're interested...
edit... but I just became admin (slightly delayed because of Wiki upgrade). - Ta bu shi da yu 28 June 2005 09:13 (UTC)
- Er... btw, there was a point to telling you this: it was for WP:POST. I guess this is news... - Ta bu shi da yu 28 June 2005 09:14 (UTC)
Re: University Challenge
editThe question was something like "What internet resource ... was started in 2002 etc", so the year was one late. Also, IIRC the question didn't use the word "encyclopedia", but there was something mentioned after the "internet resource" bit (I wasn't paying much attention to the programme untill I heard Jimmy's name, so I missed it). Joe D (t) 28 June 2005 11:43 (UTC)
Elections
editThanks for your question. I've replied at User:Angela/Election questions 2005. Angela. June 30, 2005 10:26 (UTC)
Signpost
editYes, I'll be around this weekend, so I'll see what I can contribute. And yeah, you can do what you want with the barnstar; after all, it's your award =). I don't mind in the least where you put it—I just wanted to make sure you feel like your efforts are appreciated! --Spangineer (háblame) July 1, 2005 12:17 (UTC)
You lodged some objections against this article's FAC nom a while ago. The article has changed considerably since then, and most of the issues (particularly the copyright ones) have been addresesed (I think), but I'd be more comfortable promoting it if you said it looked good to you. →Raul654 July 3, 2005 01:13 (UTC)
IBM 1360 pictures
editUnbeknownst to me, Wiki policy changed some time in the not distant past, apparently without much public consult, and permission-to-use are being deleted after an arbitrary date. While this discussion was (not) taking place, I was busy getting permission (a week long process) to use the images of the IBM 1360. This is a famous and historically important machine which no longer exists, meaning that no other images are possible. This was an "out" in the original discussion of what should happen to these messages.
I noted all of this in the discussion page. No one posted to it. Then you deleted them, apparently without comment. Needless to say, I am a little upset to see a week's work down the toilet without anyone even bothering to type in a sentence.
I would like some explaination.
Maury 3 July 2005 16:38 (UTC)
- The discussion page in question shows that I added the comment soon after uploading, on June 2nd. You replied on July 4th.
- Further, if the tag in question has been deprecated since last August, why was there no notice of this until a year later, just before they were going to be deleted? Why did I not even know about it until after I posted the image and the message appeared? And if the "answer" was to simply change the tag, why didn't you?
- Needless to say I am rather pissed about this. Given that I put a clear note that I would have liked some comment on the topic, posting a reply AFTER deleting the message is of little use. Further, you clearly should have posted to my user page, where I might have actually seen the note -- it's a little difficult to see a note on a deleted page. It's the process I'm upset about, no warning, no discussion, just POW.
- Maury 4 July 2005 12:15 (UTC)
August 30th has no births
editI assume this is a result of vandalism. Can you revert it, if so? Ksnow 4 July 2005 00:14 (UTC)Ksnow
Right, I fixed Federer
editThanks again.Ksnow 4 July 2005 00:27 (UTC)Ksnow
thanks!
editHey Michael, thanks for the vote of support on my RfA. I'm pretty excited, but I'll try to limit my utilization of all these new powers so that I still have time to work on my signpost article every week =). --Spangineer (háblame) July 4, 2005 03:43 (UTC)
Thought you might be interested...
editWe seem to have a new template that is really screwing with the sites formatting. See Template:TOCright. I have listed it on WP:TFD. To see how it is causing problems, see Daniel Pipes and Intelligent Design. It's been applied to a huge number of pages... the latest was W. Mark Felt. Anything that effects major elements like the TOC, IMO, should be dealt with in CSS. - Ta bu shi da yu 4 July 2005 08:09 (UTC)
Signpost article
editThanks for all your work on the Signpost. I notice you're getting a lot more general participation now. Your rag has grown up fast ;-)
One suggestion: when you write a piece like Games on Wikipedia, could you link to some or all of the relevant discussion? It's good to read a summary, but if I'm particularly interested it's also nice to go see the original, and perhaps join the discussion if it's still in progress. Isomorphic 5 July 2005 04:43 (UTC)
- Ahh. If the discussion was primarilly on the list, that explains why there wasn't a link. Thanks. I avoid the mailing list, so I often forget it exists. That's one of the things that makes the Signpost useful. I won't contribute to such discussions, but at least I can be aware of them. Isomorphic 6 July 2005 04:23 (UTC)
NoPuzzleStranger
editNoPuzzleStranger (talk · contribs)
I saw on his talk page that you approached him about his identity, and no resolution seems to have come from it. I've been noticing more and more actions which are classic Wik/Gzorn, so could you take another look?
- Bratislava (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - another recent edit war over english/german/slavic place names.
- Sealand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - over the formatting of the name of this entity in the Infobox (Wik puts quotes around the name, Gzorn makes similar edits, NPS makes this edit 8 times recently)
- Criticism of Wikipedia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - NPS has resisted efforts to merge this article with Wikipedia, and considers it vandalism for it to be redirected. A banned user would hold such a grudge.
There is more, but I figured it would be better if you also did some independent checking. I know I'm sure he's one and the same with Wik/Gzorn. -- Netoholic @ 8 July 2005 21:17 (UTC)
- Is it even necessary to take this as a full case to the ArbCom? I think the evidence is compelling enough to draw a conclusion that this is the same person as Wik, and that an indefinite block is completely justified. Perhaps if we'd get more reactionary - blocking every single new sock puppet immediately when a pattern emerges - he'll either become bored with the process or finally change his ways. He may even approach Jimbo for an appeal. I think we made a mistake before even bothering to take Gzornenplatz to the ArbCom. We expended too much energy on it. -- Netoholic @ 9 July 2005 03:17 (UTC)
Another vandalized page
editIt looks like April 2 has lost everything but births. Can you revert it. Ksnow 8 July 2005 21:28 (UTC)Ksnow
Your vote on Talrias' RFA
editHiya, thanks for your vote on my RFA. It's good to have your support! Talrias (t | e | c) 9 July 2005 13:06 (UTC)
Signpost
editI remember reading the Signpost a few months ago and thinking "H'm!" But I just read through the lastest issue and I'm really impressed at its quality. Thank you very much for contributing information on intra-Wikipedia events.
How to spread the word with Signpost
editThere is a new policy being put to the vote this Monday, located at WP:DG. Is there a way to get the word out on the Signpost? --HappyCamper 02:14, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Since your concern has been addressed (I thought it was a good one by the way), will you consider changing your vote? --Malathion 21:25, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Bombings article
editNo problem. Thanks for the collaboration! Kaldari 04:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
GNAA
editThough I hate to give them any more publicity than is due, just wanted to alert you to the unprecedented sixth time that GNAA has been put on Vfd, and all the ensuing fireworks. It is a significant, emotional debate, but I'm not sure it's very important. Just wanted to let you know about it. Maybe deserves mention as a brief item. The details are here. Fuzheado | Talk 02:38, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'd be just as happy (perhaps happier) if it weren't mentioned in any significant way. You never like to see the working press feeding a bad social phenomenon (ie. troll). I trust you'll make the right decision, because it can be well justified either way, and you've been doing a great job so far. Fuzheado | Talk 03:58, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, I think it would be a good idea to have this publicised. It will let those Wikipedian's who've not been following the GNAA or VfD know what happened, and also open up my conduct to scrutiny. If you were interested in creating an article, I can provide lots of feedback. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for elaborating on your objections. Your review was very effective and thorough. I've been meaning to do the same for quite some time even before the nomination, but never got around to it. Hopefully we can anticipate an overhaul of this article coming soon. 172 18:43, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
It's a shame that none of the active editors has made any effort to look up Kamin; if they don't, we should do it on our own and start editing the article ourselves. So far I have been reluctant to do this, as I don't have any particular expertise in this area. 172 05:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Candidate for feature Article? Only if we've become the WiKKKipedia. This article needs significant work before it comes close to representing scientific consensus on these issues. Stirling Newberry 14:03, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree, this is probably going to need more though. Stirling Newberry 23:04, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Hard to know how to find a new way of thanking you, Michael...
editBut thank you, truly. I count many editors here as friends, but I feel as though our association has an added depth to it (perhaps because we've met in person...perhaps because we so often find each other saying what we would have said) -- it's hard to tell you how glad I am to have your respect and your encouragement. It's been a good thing to take a couple of months off and breathe the outside air a bit, and it's been especially nice (forgive my selfishness, if you will) to know that I can do that and trust that you (and a few other trusted souls) will fight the fires I had run out of energy to do anything about. You really do exceptional work. If someday there is a book that seeks to explain Wikipedia's exceptional growth, and remarkable stability in light of the ebb and flow of editors, let it reserve at least one chapter for you.
Thanks also for dealing with Wik and Quagga (I swear, I'm back one day and I stumble into that edit war...I almost screamed and logged out...of all the people I did _not_ want to deal with...) and the Shnorrer piece. I've tried to get a dialogue going on the article's talk page, because clearly there isn't a consensus about exactly how the article should be left. Maybe you'll join me there when you have time.
Finally, a long time ago you emailed me an invitation, which I very ungraciously never replied to. I am very sorry about that. It came, of course, at the wrong time of year for me, given the twin pressures of work and Wikistress, but it was wrong of me not to at least acknowledge your note, and I hope you will forgive the offense. If you would like to reopen the invite, please email me and let me know.
Lastly...I'd like to give you a barnstar (I gave UC one because I realized how much I admire and rely on him for the work he does), but I just can't. Not because you're undeserving (good heavens, no), but because I feel as though it would be a little too much like you receiving an award simply for being a good friend, and I'd rather not tarnish the award that way. I don't know if I'll always feel this way, but I do right now, and I thought I would let you know because, well, that seemed like the best thing to do. I don't know what I would do around here if not for your support -- I likely wouldn't still be editing, or at least my vacation would be lasting a bit longer. Thank you again (and always) for that, and for everything else. Best regards, Jwrosenzweig 20:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you also, by the way, for putting me back on the "active" list of admins! I just stumbled into that one. Unbelievable...you work diligently for two years, and then about 4 weeks into a 6 week vacation, they start clearing out your desk. ;-) Jwrosenzweig 15:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
GNAA and Signpost
editI would like to see something written about the VfD on this article. It's important enough to cover, I believe. As such, I have drafted an article for VfD: User:Ta bu shi da yu/GNAA. Could this be included? - Ta bu shi da yu 01:15, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, by all means edit it down to size :-) As I was one of the main admins who did the vote, I wanted to be as fair as possible and noted pretty much all the criticisms of me in that piece. Besides, I'm better at encyclopedia articles that news reporting! - Ta bu shi da yu 06:51, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Signpost suggestion
editSalve, Michael!
I don't know if anyone besides me cares, but I did my 10,000th edit today by Kate's tools. (That doesn't count the entries under my IP addresses, which are several hundred in number.) I have a list of my milestones here. Please let me know if you think this newsworthy. PedanticallySpeaking 16:37, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Congrats, btw. muriel@pt 11:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Another suggestion
editDear Michael, I dont know if this is interesting enough for a signpost article but here it goes... As of July 17, the WIKI.PT has 100% of categorized articles. This was done thanks to the efforts of several users, namely Nuno Tavares, who wrote a very useful tool to track in real time what remains to be categorized ([1]) and Rei-artur who by himself did at least 1000 categorizations over the last few days. We are very proud of this! muriel@pt 11:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Signpost
editHi Michael - a bit late but I've just finished off a brief article about German Wikipedia's 'bounty' scheme that I thought might be of interest for the Signpost: User:Worldtraveller/Wiki payments. Worldtraveller 10:23, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for unprotecting this — I'd completely forgotten about it. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:46, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Celebrating
editHi! I've just crossed a symbolic milestone. Three thousand edits! I feel like celebrating. Have a cigar! Don't worry, I don't smoke them either, but it's all good :)! Cheers, Redux 15:08, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
For Signpost (Scots edition of Wikipedia)
editI just thought this might be an interesting thing to put in the Signpost (and also because we want the publicity - Yes, I'm that shameless) is that the Scots language edition of Wikipedia just crossed the 100 article barrier in just under a month. The Scots language is spoken by about 1.5 million people in Scotland, it used to be the primary language in Scotland before English took over. So, is it worthy of a mention? Or do you need more information? --Colin Angus Mackay 22:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Sea of Japan/East Sea
editHello! Currently, there is a vote over the name of Sea of Japan/East Sea in Korean contexts. If you are interested in voting, please go here. Masterhatch 20 July 2005
Thanks
editThanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:16, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Plot Summaries and Copyvio
editI saw that you're a lawyer specializing in copyright law, so I thought your opinion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Full Plot Summary would be extremely helpful. A large number of people have suggested that summaries as lengthy as the one on the Half-Blood Prince makes Wikipedia legally vulnerable. James 21:02, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Hello!
editJust to comment on your vote concerning "Religious persecution by Muslims". Throughout history various groups have engaged in persecutorial behaviour based on their religion. This can be a result of the underlying theology of the group, as is the case in Islamic sanctions against non-belivers, or as a result of political changes within the organization, as in "The Spanish Inquisition" of the Roman Catholic Church or as the result of paradigm shifts within a particular faith based group, as in the Reformation, the massacre of Hugenots, the pogroms of more recent European history, ect. ect.ad nauseum. Regardless of who did what to whom, the result is very much the basis for historical record, and that is what the document (Wikipedia) should strive to provide. Not that debate and constant editing are not a part of this ideal, but to provide a more comprehensive base of knowledge, the document should strive to be more inclusive rather than exclusive. Questions, comments and ideas concerning this note would be most welcome. Thanks for your time! Hamster Sandwich 05:19, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
A little something for the signpost
editCheck this out :) →Raul654 17:33, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
- Hello! I've got a signpost article for you, at User:Radiant!/WikiPrudence. Please take it from here and move it to the appropriate signpost page. Yours, Radiant_>|< 15:28, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
(Dis)appointment?
editMy feelings are equally mixed. :-) Jayjg (talk) 18:09, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you. On both terms. :-)
- Now to get on with work.
- James F. (talk) 18:14, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Signpost
editI just made a little correction to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-07-25/Britannica editorial board, as we do have an article on Sutherland, but it was under another name. Hope this is OK. Morwen - Talk 13:39, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I saw you were at the Seattle meeting, anyways I made a category for Category:Users from Washington just to see whos in this state. If you are from here then add it to your user page. Thanks, Redwolf24 (Talk) 06:11, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Sango's RfA
editHi, Michael. Thanks for supporting my RfA! I am honored to have your endoresment and hope to make good use of the mop. Sango123 01:33, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
new vfd
editThe prior VFD that you voted at ended with no consensus, a new VFD has been opened at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Historical persecution by Muslims. ~~~~ 18:51, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
- Well, then, I suppose it's only appropriate to reopen the VfD on the Jews wiki. It was also no consensus, and quite close to a delete. HKT talk 19:32, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Canderson7's RFA
editThanks for supporting my RFA, I really appreciate it! --Canderson7 16:52, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
A tip
editSince I noticed your arbcom write up will include a description of Plautus's recent behavior, I wanted to let you know I've been keeping his old evidence page up to date (because recent events have been a bit compliated and hard to straighten out).
On a side notice, you might want to mention (and I don't think it's inaccurate to say this) that many wikipedians who have been here a while consider Plautus one of the (if not the absolute) most disruptive users ever to terrorize this project. →Raul654 08:26, July 31, 2005 (UTC)